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SpencerForbes:
Now, let’s go to the main matter: Is this a forced marketing for your Rosáy tradition or are you trying to sell a new religion to Nigerians by fire by force? 🤨

I have the feeling you can answer your question yourself by simply posting where buda has attempted to sell anything to you.

ono:
buda and deep, I said I will not join this interview in any way. But I think this Spencer guy is trying to derail this interesting interview. You guys should ignore him and continue, please.

I wouldn't mind you joining. Just bring a brain please, and use it.

ono:
I am reading a new thread about you in the below.

https://www.nairaland.com/8566179/appeal-investigate-hidden-evidence-harassment

It's a tough life budaatum. You have to submit to the authority of Jesus to be free. You must do it for you to be free.

Life is not tough for me at all, ono. Nor did Jesus ask me to submit to him. He actually asked that I seek the understanding he had so that I too may become a God like him, but it seems you would rather be submissive, which is your choice and not mine.

Here's a thread that might interest you more.

Do you not think your argument would carry weight if buda creates these threads? Or do you want to suggest that budaatum is triplechoice too, or paid triplechoice to create a thread to publicise budaatum?

SpencerForbes:
Who are you trying to move? 😂 It’s too obvious when one person is juggling multiple monikers like oranges. Same dead writing pattern, same questions, same everything. At least try to change your 'format' small! 👏

Very commendable, convincing and coincidental 👏👏👏

My real concern now is: What exactly is Budaatum trying to achieve with all this loud publicity? Is it just clout-chasing or is there an underlying agenda? 🤔

esnbrutality:
All this explanations fir people you claim to be irrelevant?errelevant?

What people did I claim to be irrelevant please?

Are you aware that a dot is the most relevant part of a circle?

ono:
My belief in God constrains me. I believe that this life is not as difficult as many of the astrologers and the several well-read people think it is. And therein lies the reasons for my approach to life generally. It's what's kept me going all through the years. All those extra layers of knowledge brings about confusion, complexity and the tendency to want to take me away from the peace I have with my Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ! You get what I mean now?

Your belief in god constrains you, and you now want to constrain buda with your god that constrains you?

That is typical of those like you who would not want to enter into freedom and want others to share your prison!

You wouldn't be attempting to enslave others like you are enslaved if you bothered to educate yourself.

As for "extra layers of knowledge brings about confusion", its a pity you refuse to learn from a certain person who encourages you to learn so you can be free from constraints and bondage. And it's in fact your sort who yelled "crucify him" who went out of the cave and returned to enlighten you.

DeepSight:
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First time I am creating a thread with you in focus. Over the years, I have conducted similar interviews with many different Nairalanders as focus.

Ignore him. He is lying.

Deep, you really don't need to tell me what SpencerForbes is doing since I can very easily find out for myself. It just amuses me that people would make such false claims and then expect to be seriously considered.

It's like people claiming they 'believe' in the existence of a god they have no evidence for, when its obvious they merely believe because they do not know if their god exists or not.

ono:
Alright, I apologise if I was kind of rough/not easy on you in the past. The response you gave to Deep is an eye opener of sorts for me. I am so sorry.

I do not assume you were rough or not easy on me at all. In fact, compared to some on here you are wearing kid gloves, so don't try to frame my disregard for you is due to your supposed roughness or not being easy. It's more the lack of depth of your reasoning you should apologise for and improve on.

ono:
budaatum, just reading through your response to Deep's questions, I know deep down within me .......

It is my opinion that you have no depth within you whatsoever and you are not capable of knowing.

Sorry Linzo, but the fact that most Nigerians can not be bothered to go and vote kind of makes Tinubu winning the next election a foregone conclusion.

About 100 million Nigerians registered to vote at the last election where less than 10 million elected Tinubu, with about 25% voting in total. With that sort of electoral complacency, Tinubu doesn't need to rig to win.

SpencerForbes:
Out of over 2 million users on this Nairaland, it’s only Budaatum that is your problem for years now?

At this point, it’s either you’re secretly "marketing" the man to Nigerians or you have a special occultic agenda you’re trying to recruit for. The obsession is becoming a bit much.

It’s giving "new religion" vibes. I’ve lost count of how many times you’ve created this exact same thread. You’ll disappear for months only to resurface out of the blue with another "Budaatum" topic.

I’m 100% sure that six months from now, you’ll still be here singing this same stale song. It’s either you both are chasing clout together, or there’s a "product" you’re trying to sell us. Some of us are watching your moves in 4K.

Sorry SpencerForbes, but I must confess that this is the first thread I've come across created by Deepsight with budaatum in the topic. I went through the 223 topics created by Deepsight and could not find a single one referencing budaatum'.

I'd appreciate if you direct me to the ones you've "lost count of how many times you’ve created this exact same thread", please.

DeepSight:
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Lol.

On your own. Far from it.

I can not imagine why anyone would think one would create a thread with one monicker to question oneself with their other moniker.

Seun, I can not believe you edited my post before unspambotting it! You wouldn't like this done to your posts on x so I don't understand why you'd think it appropriate here!

Deep, my complete response can be viewed here.

https://x.com/BudaAtum/status/2038707842106949826?s=20

DeepSight:
Alright Budaatum. So this is an interview.

I'm honored.

DeepSight:
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So you identify as non-binary?

Are you willing to say if you were born biologically male or female?

Actually, I don't particularly identify as any gender or non-binary. I'm just budaatum.

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DeepSight:
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Have you belonged to any in the past?

No, I haven't. I've read many books on the subject however because dad was a Rosicrucian and ma hates the fact her money was spent on it.

DeepSight:
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I said "awakened" as a reference to Buddhism. A Buddha is an awakened one.

And I'd like to believe I am awake.

DeepSight:
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Why do you use the small "g" and do you believe that there is a source or root or causative factor for all other existent elements or things.

I use small g to denote gods in general.

Yes, I believe there must have been a "causative factor for all other existent elements or things", as it is my opinion that something must have existed for there to cause a big bang (if there ever was one). It could have been an increase in pressure for instance, but we wouldn't necessarily say pressure created a big bang since something caused the increase in pressure in the first place, and I wouldn't call it a god.

For the curious, this began here.

https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-47th/5851#138941496

benalvino3:
Bayelsaowei in Islam dogs are haram so the BBC made an anti-dog ad starring a Somali

Multiculturalism
https://twitter.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/2038574665069625777

And you of course never bothered researching this and just believed Tommy.

DeepSight:
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You are due for a full interview to uncover your mystique.

You ought to take this to a thread for it, Deep. You stand a better chance out of this thread.

DeepSight:
1. Are you male or female

buda is both male and female. Their pronouns are they and them.

DeepSight:
2. Do you belong to any sect / religious or mystical movement whatsoever (e.g: Rosicrucian Order, Eckankar Etc)

No I don't belong to any sect/religious or mystical movement whatsoever, and never have, but some will tell you otherwise based on their perception of the evidence.

DeepSight:
3. Does "Budaatum" refer to the rise or awakening of Atum the Egyptian deity? Or what inspired your moniker.

Trust you to see deep. Yes, it does refer to Atum, the first Egyptian deity. It is inspired by the depth of my knowledge and understanding of deities. And Buddhism, a 'philosophy' I explored for a long while.

DeepSight:
4. Would you say that you dont believe in the existence of any God or gods - are you an atheist?

No, I would not say I don't believe, because the word 'believe' implies one does not know. And yes, I am an atheist. An atheist who knows that all gods are human creations.

Kobojunkie:
Not holding brief for the other but diplomacy only works when the one you are engaging values it as much as you do. It does not work at all if that is not the case. If your opponent keeps coming at you with an axe brandished against your head, you would be a literal fool to think diplomacy a reasonable path to a solution, especially if it has not stopped your opponent from aiming that axe at your head numerous times before. 🥱🥱

Diplomacy is not in itself a solution, nor is it a one-size-fits-all. 🥱

USA and Israel going for Iran with an axe brandished against Iran's head Is rather abysmal, I must agree. Thankfully, their own axe brandishing is what would stop them in the end.

Just watching the rest of the world not join Israel and USA to brandish axes is much hope for the human race.

benalvino3:
The effort you put into defending the Quran does not exist for the Bible.

Go visit the section where the Bible is discussed to inform yourself and come back to say the same thing.

I so admire how the Bible teaches people to free themselves from slavery. It's unfortunate however that most use it to enslave.

You seem to give a lot of ass what buda thinks or you'd not be mentioning buda every so often.

ono:
And who gives a rat’s ass what a deluded nut thinks.

esnbrutality:
Why rush to AI...

Na so the levels dey fear you reach...

Haba mana...this unity begging na wa!!!

More like, why point you to AI. And the reason is so you may go do some more research.

And for your information, it's not fear but the absurdity of the suggestion, since Nigeria is not splitting in your life time, which I assure you, your lifetime that is, will go on even long after mine ends.

ono:
I don’t seek .....

I don't give a flying f%q what you or your god seek or don't seek ono.

DeepSight:
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There is an insult here, just so you know it doesnt miss me, but I dont mind.

Sincerely there wasn't, nor was one intended. At best I made an assumption, which you've shown me was incorrect with the below.

DeepSight:
And I agree, animals already talk, I just meant talk actual human talk. And I am not referring to parrots.

Animals actually have robust languages already. Whales and Dolphins are key examples.

I insult ono and the cretin. You do not qualify!

DeepSight:
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This is a very sound and potent point which budaatum would do well to take note of.

Sorry deep, but I don't even read what the crëtïn writes not to talk of take note. But what he said can only be true if no Quran reading muslim ever steals or murders someone since it is written in the Quran that they mustn't.

ono:
Good. Now watch how buda will stay away from you.

Stop trying to steal virtues you lack.

One does not treat ono like one treats deepsight, and not even DEI could elevate you to his level.

DeepSight:
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Nah, he or she has interacted with me for a long time and is not like that.

Sir! You see deeply, and are the sort of person I admire even when we disagree, because I can see your brain is engaged when we argue or discuss.

Unlike o no brain.

I am watching ono struggle to stay away from buda.

ono:
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DeepSight:
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At what age did you start primary school?

About animals talking, I believe it may happen one day. For some animals intelligent enough, all it takes is an adjustment to their vocal chords which I am sure science will soon make possible. I cant stop thinking what dogs would achieve if they had hands that could manipulate objects they we we can.

Started primary school at 6. Pre-primary was my education at home and nursery and nanny prior to then.

It may indeed happen that animals may talk one day but they definitely wouldn't be Tom and Jerry. As for the achievement of dogs with human hands, I think they might need to evolve or have scientists create human brains for them too to manipulate objects like humans do.

(Do know that I can argue that animals do talk today to each other, just not in language commonly understood by humans. But I might have to define 'talk' as communicate to get that argument past you.)

DeepSight:
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Why? I hope you are not laughing at the acknowledgement of my well established humility.

Moreso at his general mischaraterisation.

DeepSight, I'm laughing much at the below, lol.

ono:
You’re reasoning with someone who reads the Bible and interprets the contents literally. She’s not led by the spirit of God.

You DeepSight appears to have something she doesn’t have - humility and willingness to accept a different view. She’s rigid with her opinions. Always tries to argue her way out of a corner, I’m short of using the word “stubborn” to describe her. I’m not sure but she could be a feminist. Not sure about her marital status either, could be divorced or just living alone.

DeepSight:
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I went to the link you shared. Were you a Christian then?

I have never been a Christian, nor was I ever a Muslim, in case you wonder. Was born an atheist (parents had no time for gods), and found out about god worship in Nigeria aged 7, and it was as absurd as rat worship, and fascinating too, and useful for getting out the house one day a week.

I learnt about Roman, Greek and Egyptian gods pre-primary school, and it must have inoculated me to believing what one is told to or reads in books.

That said, I found a thread where I claimed to have taken up religion, though, more accurately, it was like 6 years after I'd actually tried church for 12 and found it wasn't for me. Did meet some wonderful people though, so sometimes go for them, and actually have an old woman who lives 10 minutes from the church who calls me so we can do the walk together in the hour it takes her, which I enjoy much.

cococandy:
This!!

There’s active dissonance required in order to practice ANY religion and I say this as a born Christian who still practices Christianity (for my own personal reasons).

But it requires some self awareness to even admit it.
There’s no way you’re reading parts of the Bible that you can clearly see makes for serious WTF moments, rationalize it and then tell yourself you are not being dissonant. Please 🙄🙄

Same with Islam and all the other religions.

Your dissonance is much less than mine, an atheist who sometimes does sit in a pew albeit in the Church of England, the Church of Darwin, where evolution is celebrated and atheists preach the Gospel.

I do go to the mosque in my hometown too, and join in to worship Obatala and Sango, and the Ogun worshippers invite me when they want to eat dog, though they know I wouldn't eat because dogs eat poo. I do eat goat though when the same people worship my River Owala, being that my hut is the closest to it. In fact, they considered making me an Owala priest but I left before they could because Owala was killing me.

Buddhism (I ought to call it Bodhisattvaism) teaches to practise the religion of those around one in order to understand them better to have compassion and to forgive those who know not what they do.

BigElEddy:
Maybe there are about to start buying from Iran as part of the negotiations

I want you to not assume you are joking, and change your "buying" to a more appropriate phrase please.

Bobodee09:
The US president said he could "take the oil in Iran" and possibly seize the country's major fuel hub of Kharg Island.

Read more: https://bbc.in/4dbHZeq