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triplechoice:
I think, the correct thing, from what you explained up there, is that you were born without any knowledge of what a god is, and not that you were born an atheist.

Babies lack the neural development to actively believe or disbelieve a god. So they cannot be born atheist, instead they're born neutral, not believing or disbelieving anything.

KnownUnknown:
How were you an atheist before you were taught about gods?!

KnownUnknown:
I share an identical position.



I think this opinion does not make sense in light of the previous one. No one is born an atheist, theist, pantheist, or any other xxxtheist.
A child doesn’t know of anything called god until the concept is introduced.

FRANCISTOWN:
It's fascinating, but have you thought about the implications of your phrase, when you said. "I do not believe nor disbelieve in the existence of gods"?

Reflect7:
KEEP LYING TO YOURSELF.

The records are there regarding the 'missionary schools' and how Nigerians were forced to abandon their religion to be admitted.

''The Christian religion that the colonial rulers brought to Nigerians was tied to Western or formal education. Therefore, Nigerians clamouring for Formal Education saw themselves being lured into accepting Christianity as a religion of progress and civilization..''

Reflect7:
The reason you abandoned your religion is because you were FORCED to abandon them by the British colonialists through a process of ECONOMIC BLACKMAIL.

FRANCISTOWN:
I'm sorry. Everything you wrote were not needed at all.

Let's leave tangibility aside. Come at atheists head-on and don't loiter around the facts.

Let's get this over with once and for all.

I DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE EXISTENCE OF ANY DEITY BECAUSE SUCH THINGS DO NOT EXIST.
I dare say deities do not exist. I can bet my two kidneys,my heart and my left testicle that deities do not exist.

I may not be able to speak for all atheists but below is the common ground for atheists.


1. The first prerequisite (the fundamental laws of existence sustaining true for all observers at all frames of reference)

• Deities defy the fundamental laws of existence. i.e,
i. They cannot be seen by anyone who is interested (with or without laboratory aids).
ii. They cannot be heard by anyone who is interested (with or without laboratory aids).
iii. They cannot be observed by anyone who is interested (with or without laboratory aids)
iii. They do not have effects on things that everyone can observe, and they are not observable themselves (with or without laboratory aids). Therefore, they are not interactive.
iv. They are not perceptible(with or without laboratory equipments)
v. There is no physical law that supports the possibilities of the existence of deities.
vi. Deities cannot be subjected to any scientific procedure.

These above are what atheists say about deities.

The ideology of the existence of a God is even the most stupid thing ever. Like, what's a God?

Reflect7:
African spirituality is like a formless Sea of Knowledge.

What we are trying to do is to give it a ‘structure’, so that it’s accessible to more people, and easier to understand.

To this effect we would require summits and seminars attended by our most brilliant and knowledgeable traditional religionists and historians.

They will brainstorm on traditional spirituality and doctrines, and emerge with a HOLY BOOK of AFRICAN SPIRITUALITY after a minimum 3 years of deliberations.

This book will be mass produced and disseminated just like the bible and koran.

A formalised priesthood will be developed to accompany the new faith of course.

OLAADEGBU:
Kanye West Goes into Adult Entertainment After Leaving Faith

PRAY FOR KANYE: The rumors have been confirmed that Kanye West is going into the adult entertainment business following his departure from the Christian faith.

FxMasterz:
Is it possible in the beginning that Man and Animals could understand one another before the line of communication was broken? Yes!

FxMasterz:
Was the whole world not speaking the same language before the line of communication was broken? Men may not understand each other's dialects as of today but they did millennials ago.

The terms of the passport application highlight that if you do not get your passport issued within one year from application date, your application will be canceled and you have to start all over.

The tertiary health institution is currently in total darkness after it was disconnected from the national grid by Ibadan Electricity Distribution Company (IBEDC) on Tuesday, 19th March, 2024.

This is as the hospital has cried out for help, saying it was overburdened by the financial challenges.

It also blamed the high debt burden on successive administrations, who left unpaid electricity bills to the tune of N328m.

https://dailypost.ng/2024/04/01/blackout-mixed-reactions-as-uch-cries-out-over-debt-burden/

StillDtruth:
If you are not the liar tell us the colour, size, shape and height of it?

budaatum:
Pako is for you. There's no better way to describe what ails you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVkyiawJiE4

na pako ooo na pako
na suegbe ehh na suegbe ehh na pako
wetin this things means
i go tell you now
carpenter wen no e work na suegbe ehh ehh na suegbe ohh ahh ahhx2
tailor wen dy sew like carpenter na suegbe ohh ehh ehh na suegbe oooox2
doctor wen dy do like lawyer na suegbe ehh ehh na suegbe ohh ohh
lawyer wen dy talk like doctor na suegbe ehh ehh oh na suegbe eh ooh ahh
commisioner wen no e work na suegbe ehh na suegbe ohh ohh
ehn we don finish for suegbe now for pako
carpenter wen no e work na pako oo na pako oo, tailor wen dy sew like tailor na pako oo na pako ooo
lawyer wen dy talk like lawyer na pako ooo
na pako oohh ohh
doctor wen dy do like doctor na pako ohh na pako ohh ohh
commisioner wen no e work na pako ohh na pako ohh ohh
e fit bad na suegbe nd if e good na pako na pako ohh ohh x2...
suegbe na suegbe ehh ehh pako na pako ohh ohhx2

budaatum:
StillDtruth/Veecruz/dtruthspeaker, I see your spirit on Nairaland because your spirit is not invisible. In fact, the only people who would say that your spirit is not visible and not real and is intangible, are those looking at you with their naked eyes or those who want to measure the mass of your spirit on a scale or your spirit's dimensions with a ruler or those who lack the knowledge so feel they need to carve you up to get at your spirit inside a machine.

Your spirit is reflected in your words you post on Nairaland and in your conduct and how you relate with others and how you think and reason too, and it is real and it exists and it is tangible for those who open their eyes to look, and just the spirit in which you began the thread on spirits says quite a lot about your spirit.

Here is Christ teaching on spirit seeing.

StillDtruth:
The record bears witness that you herein confess that spirit is real, so end of argument!

StillDtruth:
Thus, we see that Budaatum affirms and confirms my definition "Spirit is the none physical and invisible part of a man"

StillDtruth:
And Budaatum has just answered it confirming the Truth that man are truly aware of the existence of the spirit of man.

NairaLTQ:
Of course we know that the Software is REAL but the problem was you and some others decided that the Software was Tangible solely BECAUSE of the EFFECTS we observe it has on the Machine.

KnownUnknown:
That sounds like nonsense, especially given the negative definition.

Defining something as non physical and invincible is basically describing nothing.

I can borrow your definition and say Tizizi is the non physical and invincible part of a woman. Does that make any kind of sense? No

Try again.

StillDtruth:
That is the point of TenQ's argument. And you peiple were supposed to keep quiet in shame but no, you people had to make it worse in your bid to extricate yourself only to end up reconfirming and stating what TenQ was impliedly saying in his poser, which is

like the rest of the world are aware of the existence of spirit in man and that your argunent in denial of you cannot see it, is most ridculous and a lie because, no one, incliding you cannot see a software and yet we all know like the rest of the world, that it exists.

And that is the point of TenQ's line of argument.

NairaLTQ:
Hello Buda, This is TenQ
I got banned replying one of your posts

And I have adopted ALL your definition as long as you apply your logic consistently.

NairaLTQ:
Seems youve not read this verse before:

Isaiah 64:8 -
But now, O Lord, You are our Father,We are the clay, and You our potter;And all of us are the work of Your hand.

StillDtruth:
Was this isssue not arising out of my thread Re: What Is Spirit? by Veecruz: 6:40pm On Apr 12
KnownUnknown:
Tell me in layman’s language, what is a spirit?

Clearly, all these argument is to put it to you that you like the rest of the world are aware of the existence of spirit in man and that your argunent in denial of you cannot see it, is most ridculous and a lie because, no one, incliding yo cannot see a software and yet we all know like the rest of the world, it exists.

And that is the point of TenQ's line of argument.

TenQ:
It has nothing to do with my will for I defined properly my use of the word Tangible: as Realities that have mass, dimension or Energy ( almost a million times).

AND the consequence is Pain, Death and loss of control of the Earth

TenQ:
The Potter has the Right to make the clay ANY SHAPE He wants: don't you think so?

StillDtruth:
Is it not because you already know that the machine operates with the software, is why you do noy ask nor intend to ask?

And that is the point i believe TenQ was making.

TenQ:
Thanks a lot, at least you were fortright in giving me your opinion.

I would have responded in full except that i noticed that people have at least TWO widely different definition for that which is Tangible. Thus, I made two posts to clarify them and you were quoted.
School of thought ONE: I believe that this is where you fall on
Any reality that have effects on matter are tangible

School of thought TWO: This is where I belong
Any reality that have mass or dimension or have energy

I wish everyone will take a position and stick with it and the attendant consequences!

TenQ:
And my quest was to show you that there are Existences that are Not Tangible but Real.

happney65:
Breaking news: The Supreme Court appeared poised to reject Donald Trump’s sweeping claim that he is immune from prosecution on charges of trying to subvert the 2020 election, but in a way that is likely to delay his stalled election-interference trial.

Washington Post

ijebosb:
Imagine. Pecker authored all these fake headlines and more in service to Donald Trump's election. He admitted it today on the stand. He helped rig the primary by making up fake stories against Ted Cruz and Rubio, then helped in the General. Donald Trump, King of Fake News. Damning Testimony.
I wonder how many of these stories found their way onto this thread.