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Christianity Etc › Re: The Israelite God, Yahweh Of Shasu Tribe by budaatum(op): 3:56pm On Jul 25, 2022

Maynnmann:
Who are the “Israelite”? When was “israEL” created?
Are you saying “Israelites” wrote the books?

No. I said it "went through numerous rewrites, redacts, additions, translations, syncretism, omissions, etc etc, etc". So I am obviously not saying the Israelites wrote the book I am reading.

Maynnmann:
Who said anything about “shasu tribe” except “Yahweh of shasu tribe”, Yahweh was adopted by the Israelite from the shasu tribe(cannanite) and shasu tribe got the yahweh from Egypt.

Are you are saying I am reading a book that began in Egypt?

Maynnmann:
The book you are reading was not originally written in english, and it’s a VERSION of the book that you are reading.

You'd think I'd know this won't you, since the English version is only about 400 years old.

Maynnmann:
Note: It’s a jewish book(Tanakh) meant for the jews.

A book about yahweh that the tribe of shasu got from Egypt and that was adopted by the Jews?

Amazing isn't it, especially considering the Greeks then adopted it from the Jews (the Septuagint) and gave it to the Romans (Vetus Latina) who spread it around the world including the English which I am now reading..

Maynnmann:
If you sincerely need answers on the tanakh you’d go and meet the Jewish people to explain their BOOK for you in the original language. (god, genesis, light, beginning, darkness, good etc are all ENGLISH WORDS).

Don't you think I should rather go to the tribe of shasu who gave it to the Jewish people, or to the source in Egypt where the shasu got it from so they can explain it in the language they gave it to the tribe of shasu in before it was given to the Jews?

Maynnmann:
The book you are reading also contains poems and Gnostic sayings bwahahahah

That's probably why it's worth reading, but let me ask you again.

budaatum:
What is the lesson to be understood?

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Israelite God, Yahweh Of Shasu Tribe by budaatum(op): 3:11pm On Jul 25, 2022

Sounds to me like the book I am reading was not written by the tribe of shasu after all, unless you want to claim the tribe of shasu gave a book to the Israelites who adopted the book of the tribe of shasu.

I think the book I am reading was written down from storys and myths that were orally trasmitted for centurys and then went through numerous rewrites, redacts, additions, translations, syncretism, omissions, etc etc, etc such that any semblance to whatever might have begun amongst the tribe of shasu or any other tribe would mostly be lost in obscurity by now. The beginning of the book I am reading not being "yahweh of shasu tribe created the heaven and earth", shows editing at least, so how can I possibly be reading about "yahweh of shasu tribe" instead of what the book I am reading has been edited etc etc to tell me about?

P.s you have not answered my questions.

budaatum:
What is the lesson to be understood?

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Politics › Re: Off Grid Options For Rural Electrification Is Better For Nigeria's Clean Energy by budaatum: 1:43pm On Jul 25, 2022

Many have no idea how little light we have.

Christianity Etc › The Israelite God, Yahweh Of Shasu Tribe by budaatum(op): 1:33pm On Jul 25, 2022

Maynman:
Pentauch and sinaiticus is not only talking about yahweh of shasu tribe. Pentauch and sinaiticus is about the Israelite god, yahweh of shasu tribe!
All the questions you listed are about yahweh and how he operates!
Bible means book, you are reading the JEWISH BOOK.

You should understand where the so called lesson is coming from!

This is for you to educate buda on the "yahweh of shasu tribe". But first let me show you the level of my ignorance.

The earliest known reference to the Shasu occurs in a 15th-century BCE list of peoples in the Transjordan region. The name appears in a list of Egypt's enemies inscribed on column bases at the temple of Soleb built by Amenhotep III.

They were Semitic-speaking cattle nomads in the Southern Levant from the late Bronze Age to the Early Iron Age or the Third Intermediate Period of Egypt. They were organized in clans under a tribal chieftain, and were described as brigands active from the Jezreel Valley to Ashkelon and the SinaiWiki

Did the book that I am reading come these people who were called shasu by the Egyptians, in your opinion?

What is the lesson to be understood?

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Politics › Re: Reasons Why Peter Obi Presidency Will Be A Total Failure by budaatum: 12:52pm On Jul 25, 2022*

nikky5:
I don't understand why many people see Peter Obi as a saviour for our country.

Neither can I see "many people see Peter Obi as a saviour for our country", but now that you've confessed that you "see Peter Obi as a saviour for our country", I'm going to suggest reasons why you see "many people see Peter Obi as a saviour for our country".

You are not using your eyes to see. This is likely because you are one of those brought up on the gospel of messianism that someone will one day come and save you. If you used your eyes you'd have noticed Peter Obi is not presenting himself as a saviour for our country but as a beacon to rally around so we can be the saviour of our country ourselves.

The party of Peter Obi is called the Labour Party. The Labour means work, while The Party means all of us. It does not mean sit on your lazy ass making crap up to believe while expecting your saviour to come from heaven!

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Politics › Re: Breaking: Evidence Of Biased Mod's On Nairaland by budaatum: 12:48pm On Jul 25, 2022

mycar:
Is it verifiable?
Is it true and if yes, how was it resolved?

That's the thing with you Obidients. U na too de labour brain, unlike urchins who labour their's not least they labour in vain.

Politics › Re: Bury Your Head In Shame’ – Ohanaeze Slams Presidency Over Terrorists’ Threat To by budaatum: 11:24am On Jul 25, 2022

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Cult Of The Askers And Knøckers And Seekers by budaatum(op): 11:17am On Jul 25, 2022

And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

First, when! The exclamation mark is to denote screaming. Then I immediately remind myself that my disbelief is suspended. Besides, it must have occurred to one by now that what one is reading is not history but the writings in answer to the question how did all we observe around us come into being.

Still, and at least:

What is light?

What is darkness?

What is good?

How does one divide?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Cult Of The Askers And Knøckers And Seekers by budaatum(op): 2:16am On Jul 25, 2022

Maynnmann:
You answered yourself, bud.

Do you know the authors of the book I am quoting?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Cult Of The Askers And Knøckers And Seekers by budaatum(op): 2:04am On Jul 25, 2022

Maynnmann:
There was no time i said you don’t know the author, maybe you should read what i said again and stop assuming.
According to you do you know the authors of the Jewish book in particular bereSHIT you are quoting?

You the one quoting the jewish book in particular bereSHIT(genesis)not me.
And the jewish book is about “HE”, Yahweh of shasu tribe, son of El and Asheera.
They are mythologies!
The “tanakh” was created through canon, we have other books that didn’t make it inside, so as the New Testament too, the earliest New Testament, sinaiticus is the most corrected book in history and that’s where you find logos and rhema which was used to translate dabar in Hebrew.
Imagine oo, Too many errors to correct inside “word of god(Yahweh)

And not to forget that before Christianity was created and started using the tanakh as Old Testament (“genesis” is a greek and latin word, bereSHIT is the correct one before it was translated) it’s already been in use in Judaism, and Judaism comes from yahwism.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahwism

Which books did you read that have no authors?

I don't know the authors Maynman, but that has never stopped me reading books I do not know the authors. Apart from reading books that the covers and title age had been torn off, some even missing half the book, I have read books that are of unknown authors. The Pali Dhammapada being one amongst many as is the Corpus Hermeticum. They were obviously written by people, just that they are not known.

Do you now the authors of the book I am quoting?

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Cult Of The Askers And Knøckers And Seekers by budaatum(op): 9:26pm On Jul 24, 2022

Maynmann:
Noise.
You are reading a book you don’t know its author?

Pentauch from tanakh is about yahweh of shasu tribe.
The “genesis” you are quoting is called bereshit!
Bereshit was not written in English, “god” is an English word.
Yahweh is a “HE”, his father and mother is EL and asheera!

Yes, I am reading a book which according to you, i don't know its author, and you have not exactly said who the author of the book is so I guess you don't know it's author neither, but please note that this would not be the first book I have read without knowing it's author. I very regularly read books that had the title pages and authors missing.

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Sports › Re: FORMULA ONE F1 Official SeasonThread - Revamped by budaatum: 9:21pm On Jul 24, 2022

With Leclerc's throttle mistake and indecision on Sainz tyres, I think Ferrari might be done this season.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Cult Of The Askers And Knøckers And Seekers by budaatum(op): 7:51pm On Jul 24, 2022

Maynman:
Who are the writers of the book?
The pentauch is about yahweh of shasu tribe.
The “he” is Yahweh, it’s basic English.

I'd presume those who wrote a book that you say is about the "yahweh of shasu tribe" would be those who now about the "yahweh of shasu tribe", whoever the writers of the book may be, and assuming it was written, and are writing to tell you how "he" the yahweh of shasu tribe operates.

Thank you. Now I only have to consider if what the writers have written about the operations of the yahweh of shasu tribes are valid or not and how and of what benefit it is to let it consume my time. After all, who's to say they knew what the heck they were writing about or could write well enough. I mean, so far I have read them write about In the beginning, and a God who created the heaven and the earth, without a "yahweh of shasu tribe" in sight.

I wonder why and how the writers were operating, as opposed to how the yahweh of shasu they were writing about operates, at least first.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Cult Of The Askers And Knøckers And Seekers by budaatum(op): 4:06pm On Jul 24, 2022

Maynman:
All the questions you listed are about yahweh and how he operates!

You should understand where the so called lesson is coming from!

"He" being how the writers of the book operate, or "he" being how their "yahweh of shasu tribe" operates?

Who is Yahweh of shasu tribe by the way?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Cult Of The Askers And Knøckers And Seekers by budaatum(op): 3:40pm On Jul 24, 2022

Maynman:
You are reading the pentauch and sinaiticus that’s talking about Israelite god, yahweh of shasu tribe.
Bible means BOOK!

I may indeed be "reading the pentauch and sinaiticus that’s talking about Israelite god, yahweh of shasu tribe", but I am talking, by writing, about Genesis 1 in the Bible which means book and which may be about "the Israelite god, yahweh of shasu tribe", and which sounds like an answer to questions 2, 10, 11,12, but is not what I am talking about, as I am at the beginning as you might note with more than 4 questions to seek answers to with my own eyes and my own mind and my own other senses which I feel you might delight in seeing me use and do instead of just believing what I am told by others, though correct me if I am wrong.

You do not want to deprive one of the lessons learnt by seeking for oneself or do you?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Cult Of The Askers And Knøckers And Seekers by budaatum(op): 1:20pm On Jul 24, 2022

Maynman:
God/god is a title not a person, i see you are talking about the Israelite god, yahweh of shasu tribe.

You see very wrong. I am not "talking about" the "Israelite god, yahweh of shasu tribe". I am talking about the book that I am reading. Specifically, the so called book of Genesis in a bigger book called the Holy Bible. That book might be "talking" about the "Israelite god, yahweh of shasu tribe" but I am talking about what I am reading in the book.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Cult Of The Askers And Knøckers And Seekers by budaatum(op): 1:09pm On Jul 24, 2022

Dtruthspeaker:
See Anaconda, always slithering to other positions (change of posts) when unable to counter.

Yes I know, which is why I also made a separation in my response.

I am not here to counter you DT. Others are doing a very fine and capable job countering you already.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Cult Of The Askers And Knøckers And Seekers by budaatum(op): 1:07pm On Jul 24, 2022

tctrills:
Una don form cult. Baba cultist

There is inside and there is outside and I had no choice in the matter.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Cult Of The Askers And Knøckers And Seekers by budaatum(op): 12:52pm On Jul 24, 2022

Before reading on, the seeker must either suspend one's disbelief if one can't believe and accept either what one reads and or the explanation some would give or just abandon reading this ridiculous book with its overbold statements, because it is rather obvious that in seeking answers to the posed questions instead of accepting the answers some wish to force down one's throat or the literal, one might come to different conclusions. After all, it's not as if we all equally see, or equally look, so why assume what some have seen is all that's there to see?

A cultee in the Cult Of The Askers And Bossoms And Seekers will look with your own eyes and see with your own mind. That is this cults entry requirement as stated in the opening post, and this is the beginning. Imagine the questions to be asked the further one reads on or what might happen if you believed and sought no further?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Cult Of The Askers And Knøckers And Seekers by budaatum(op): 11:59am On Jul 24, 2022

Dtruthspeaker:
And you wilfully excluded the remaining portion of my statement which said "better than the Maker (Potter) himself."!

To be honest I willfully excluded you when I began this thread, you'd find if you read the opening post.

Please continue posting what you think.
It helps us all grow.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Cult Of The Askers And Knøckers And Seekers by budaatum(op): 11:24am On Jul 24, 2022

Dtruthspeaker:
And every reasonable person would have told you that my post was the figure of speech called Metaphor coated with Simile but as usual, you must always be a devil and a coiling snake.

So, metaphorically speaking do you or do you not know your maker DT?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Cult Of The Askers And Knøckers And Seekers by budaatum(op): 11:34pm On Jul 23, 2022

kkins25:
Reminds me of a time I went to see a babalawo. He said never to join cult less my destiny be taken in a direction it wasn't intended.
Buda, thus thou wish to thwart my destiny to the promised land? lol.

Perhaps don't go and see a babalawo or don't join this cult. Your promised land destiny will then remain intact.

Though i might think you deserve way more than promises, who is buda that thwarts your destiny?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Cult Of The Askers And Knøckers And Seekers by budaatum(op): 11:29pm On Jul 23, 2022

Dtruthspeaker:
Every reasonable person would have told you that a pot cannot know the Potter better than the Potter himself.

My apologies. I thought you were a pot telling me about your potter but here you are telling me you cannot know your potter.

I think every reasonable person might tell me a pot is not a person but I guess I need to wait till i find a reasonable pot.

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Family › Re: Shari’a Court Adjourns Case Of Marriage Involving Man, Granddaughter In Zamfara by budaatum: 11:07pm On Jul 23, 2022

Desusi:
So you're not aware that some states are been governed by Sharia laws already?Are you in Nigeria at all?Pray that it will not spread all over the nation. This is one of the reasons why Muslim Muslim ticket is feared. Oh Lord, unto thy hànd!

Actually, no state is governed by Sharia Law and Sharia law can not spread all over the nation. States that have Sharia law also have customary along with regular courts which are non-sharia.

You can't drag a non-Muslim to Sharia court, and Sharia can't spread all over Nigeria because some will refuse to give up their Bible and ayilala Ogun lakaye burn anyone who tries to take my iron!

It's why so many are against Muslim Muslim ticket. We would not be against it if we were all shariad.

Family › Re: Please Wish Her Well by budaatum: 4:36pm On Jul 23, 2022

I wish her well. She will live long.

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Travel › Re: My Poland Japa Experience (honest View) by budaatum: 4:28pm On Jul 23, 2022

When you get time please learn from Abini2012 to bless us with pictures.

https://www.nairaland.com/5202919/adventure-uk-tier-4-dependant

And thank you for so far, most especially for ignoring those "quick to pick on imaginary flaws and project".

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Family › Re: Shari’a Court Adjourns Case Of Marriage Involving Man, Granddaughter In Zamfara by budaatum: 1:55pm On Jul 23, 2022

P1PrinceKT:
Since it's illegal why not protest against it?

Why should I protest when a judge is already determining what to do in a case that Muslims brought before him to protest already?

I can wait patiently till 25 July.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Cult Of The Askers And Knøckers And Seekers by budaatum(op): 12:44pm On Jul 23, 2022

Dtruthspeaker:
Ans: He is The One Who Said and He must surely know Himself more than us, so we can not say otherwise..

I think you might mean you yourself "can not say otherwise", because I have heard very many say otherwise.

Just saying in case some come and say otherwise. Not everyone is after all a part of your "we".

Politics › Re: Peter Obi's Haters Should Kindly Pick A Side by budaatum: 11:32am On Jul 23, 2022*

YoungDaNaval:
Before Peter Obi emerged as a candidate for the LP, the general consensus was that igbos do not like themselves. Presently, folks are saying, igbos are supporting Peter because he’s Igbo. Una go need find one stand o. This jumping around no good oh!

We lgbos like ourselves abi we no like ourselves? make Una choose one

You assume we are dumb. You think we care where you are from when in fact your behaviour matters more to us. We are after all taught to know you by your fruits and not ignorantly assume the mud that made you defines you, so what but your lack of knowing would make you assume your Igboness is more relevant than your behaviour? Does your type of Igboness make you unlikeable perhaps?

For years some have been calling for Biafra and that silly Oduduwa Republic I add. If we placed such people in a Nigerian ministry or the Nigerian Police Force, will they serve Nigeria or assiduously work to destroy it? Can Biafra and Oduduwa Republics exist without the destruction of Nigeria?

If we lived in a face me I face you and you wanted to carve some of the communal area into your private use, I think I might dislike the destruction of the communal area too. Now imagine me, I Pledge to Nigeria We Hail Thee Arise O Compatriot. Can you see how I might dislike the destruction of the communal area that I pledge to and hail and arise to? And that's apart from the fact that you obviously don't love your neighbours or you'd find ways to live with them even if that must include educating them against their obviously ignorant will.

But, thankfully, all Igbos are very not like you. At Agunbelewo, some miles from Osogbo along the Osogbo-Ogbomoso Road, Igbos set up Osogbo Alaba department stores selling all manner of white goods. They live harmoniously amongst the Yorubas - well, baring some ignorant one's amongst us - and even accept some of us as apprentices beside their younger siblings from their village to learn their trade. We too take them to our farms and rent them land to farm if they want to, and by harmoniously living together, we learn from each other and build a community instead of destroying the land we live on.

Anyway, what I really wanted to say is, stop deceiving yourself. Only an ignorant tribalistic blind fool would claim all the Obidients you see and hear is "igbos are supporting Peter". To start with, there's not enough Igbos to shout so loud. And we are not as ignorant to not see a good thing as you seem to assume.

As to whether you like your self or not, what a very odd question to be asking us when what you should probably answer is whether you like yourself enough to be Obidient!

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Politics › Re: Seun Osewa Knocks Tinubu Over Fake Bishop Stunt by budaatum: 10:39am On Jul 23, 2022

The Obidient Snake Handler

Politics › Re: Peter Obi's Haters Should Kindly Pick A Side by budaatum: 10:26am On Jul 23, 2022

Antimarraige:
Proudly Yoruba and proudly Obidient. Obi is for a fresh Nigeria not about tribe or religion

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Family › Re: Shari’a Court Adjourns Case Of Marriage Involving Man, Granddaughter In Zamfara by budaatum: 10:21am On Jul 23, 2022

God1000:
Why Sharia court?

Indeed. Is this not illegal in Nigerian law?

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