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backtovillage:
Me I just want to know why they think that way

We "think" that way because we inform ourselves.

1914 Germany with population of about 60million introduced Lebensraum as necessary for its survival thinking livable land would run out. They went on to remove most of the indigenous populations of Central and Eastern Europe either through mass deportation to Siberia, extermination, or enslavement so they can have more land to live on. Thankfully, for them, lots of them died in the wars so their population has grown to a mere 85 million.

That will not be the portion of vibrant ever growing Lagos especially after we have taught ourselves to live harmoniously with one another and better utilise space.

Obrigardo:
Alex jones is fuuucked

I happen to feel he does not feel fuuuucked at all and wants to truly fuq himself and his followers real bad like a certain other Jones once did, and I would not be surprised if he gets to pay over 100 million for the pleasure.

In court on Wednesday, Mr. Bankston produced financial records indicating that Mr. Jones was earning revenue of as much as $800,000 per day in recent years by selling diet supplements, gun paraphernalia and survivalist gear in ads accompanying his broadcasts. Mr. Jones tried to accuse the families’ lawyers of cherry-picking the most lucrative daily revenues, but he was silenced by the judge.

Mr. Bankston also produced clips from Mr. Jones’s Infowars broadcast in which he aired a copy of a photograph of the judge in Ms. Lewis’s and Mr. Heslin’s case, Maya Guerra Gamble, engulfed in flames.

“That’s justice burning,” a cowed Mr. Jones told Mr. Bankston.

In another broadcast, Infowars falsely linked the judge to pedophilia and human trafficking; in another, Mr. Jones questioned the intelligence of the jurors in the case, implying that his political enemies had handpicked “blue-collar” people who “don’t know what planet they’re on,” and were ill-equipped to decide what monetary damages he must pay Ms. Lewis and Mr. Heslin. In written questions submitted to Mr. Jones, jurors took immediate issue with that characterization.

“Are you aware that this jury consists of 16 intelligent, fair-minded citizens who are not being improperly influenced in any way?” one wrote to Mr. Jones.

“I don’t think that you are operatives,” Mr. Jones replied.

Ms. Lewis and Mr. Heslin are requesting $150 million in damages from Mr. Jones. But more than money, they have said the case represents an opportunity to alert Americans to the societal harms posed by the viral spread of disinformation over the decade since Sandy Hook.

backtovillage:
What made the population to surge if not migration.
Chinese arent living harmoniously or Texas.
Those you see there are just projections doesn't mean it can't even reduce but if we have someone like you sure it will be more than that.

If you happened to be living like the Chinese or as is lived in Texas you'd probable think you have died and arrived in heaven.

U na too de born pikin is what made the population of Lagos surge, and u na no fit farm which is why you left the village to come make a living in Lagos, so yes, population will grow if I were in charge, and it would be accepted as progress and development especially since I would have more people to tax to increase the states IGR to spend on developing the state.

You do know that the current transport system can not transport the current population? I need to build underground metro like they have in New York to move you efficiently to where you'd be working for your daily bread so more people paying tax is a requirement.

backtovillage:
So you think Lagos is not stretched abi.
-Your people will move to my state and develop my state even if bandit are on rampage chai, Olodumare jowo gbami now!!!
-So you think it will go beyond that amount in Lagos state and nothing would be done? People like you shouldn't near seat of power because you would rather leave everything they way are.

No, Lagos is not stretched. You all just don't know how to build up and live harmoniously with each other.

20 years ago the population of Lagos was half what it is today and at 3.5% annual growth rate, you will surly live long enough to see the population of Lagos double to 30million, then Olodumare will gba ẹ, amen.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/lagos-population

backtovillage:
If you are "up".
-You would understand that state do not get dime from all this influx to help with overpopulation.
-You would understand that there is a limit to which a state can take.
-what if half of the population in my state move to your state due to crises. Life would be bearable for you there abi.
-you would understand that lagos is Overpopulated.
Nigeria constitution made Nigeria and Nigerians the way they are.

First, 140 people is not influx. More than ten Ekene Dili Chukwus load in Enugu and arrive in Lagos everyday and I don't hear influx unless you are one of those Yorubas crying that Igbos are smarter than you.

And who told you Lagos is overpopulated? Lagos population is a mere 15+million. What would you say when it doubles to 30million and then 60million, or do you think time will never reach 2050 and 3023?

If the population of your state all move to my state, though I wonder what crisis will make the population of your state abandon your state and move into mine, my people will welcome you and then move into your abandoned state and developed it and charge you a lot to come back and live in your state that you abandoned and that we developed. See how you like it then.

JDistribute:
Why will a man want to dress like woman?

Some people can't help themselves, they must be tamed. Laws are important otherwise we descend to a lower level, and start to behave like animals. Good law, let us teach the kids good positive things that leads to growth, not teaching them taboos.

Why will a woman dress like a man? And how does a woman dressing like a man become "descend to a lower level, and start to behave like animals"?

Can I not "descend to a lower level, and start to behave like animals" if I wear a womans dressings or even nothing at all or are you suggesting the dressing is what "leads to growth"?

Dubaku543:
I am an Obi supporter but the Northern APC Governors will deliver the North to Tinubu like a served meal on a clean slate dinning table.

And they will do it the bad way!!
Fear the spirit of desperation!

I guess you think all the North is Northern APC, and can't consider that there might be Northern PDP and even those in APC who might think make our pikin Atiku do am, and that's not to talk of Northerners who have become obidient and are making themselves Yusful by labouring to ensure no feeling of desperation could possibly make bad ways work this time.

backtovillage:
Let them go to court and prove that they have IDs.
They allowed foreigners into their state that's the reason they are moving down south. Your defense is baseless. People loaded themselves in a truck like dat don't you think there should be an agreement between the Federal government and state government if they have the capacity to take influx from one state to another . Is it not the same constitution that made Abuja to b surrounded by Boko haram insurgent but yet u brought out the same constitution.
Am very sure you are not in the country right now else u won't b saying this

So if I load people in Enugu inside 10 Ekene Dili Chukwus and drive them to Lagos I must first seek "agreement between the Federal government and state government" despite the fact that the Nigerian constitution already guarantees the freedom of my movement in Nigeria?

Na so you think I must mumu reach? What if their mumu no reach my own and they decide to inflict consequences on me by suing me for contravening their constitutional right just as you should have inflicted consequence by suing those who destroyed your property?

If thinking like you do is what it means to be in the country I will leave the country for you this very minute, I assure you.

Basically, it will become illegal for me to wear agbada and high heals!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-61646540

elated177:
1: Do people in other countries also pray and fast for such things as well? Those who have travelled out of this country should enlighten us.

In countries that actually produce anything, fasting and praying is not the preferred solution. They have learnt and now know that a seed must be put into tended soil for it to produce a bountiful crop and they have extended that knowledge to building cars and rockets and phones and electricity and water that runs from a tap and etc, thereby providing the people with the means with which to acquire, with the sweat of their own brow, the things you have highlighted above instead of praying and fasting for them to arrive from the Gods in the heavens.

elated177:
2: Should a follower of Yahushua the Messiah fast and pray for such things. As a saint, servant or messenger of YHVH Almighty, of Yahushua the Messiah, what do you think?

Depends what you mean by "follower of Yahushua the Messiah".

If that includes the God that many read about in a book called the Bible then those who do not pray and fast for the things you highlighted above are the followers, while the prayers and fasters are following those who told them to pray and fast. "Woe unto them" might Christ say to those selling the serpents and rocks of fast and pray.

Every one "following" Jesus should know they must pick up their own crosses, which are what the things you highlighted above are, and bear them so that one can have the resource to teach one's neighbours to bear their own cross too. For it is very clearly written that "In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return".

I must agree with you. The more they stone Obi the brighter he shines. And they don't realise he signifies a categorical rejection of them.

We will labour Yusfully to Obidiently show them!

jmoore:
You are free to believe your MISUNDERSTANDING.

Someone with your mindset will say football clubs are using players as slaves because they sell player to other clubs and buy players from other clubs.

And the football club will be punished if they beat the footballer with a rod or if the footballer dies as a direct result though that is actually the law literally not speaking.

And some people think Obi has no structure yet here are Obidients labouring to structure themselves.

I swear to God if I were messianically minded - sounds like maniac lol - I think I would call this Obi phenomena the Third coming of Christ! We can't after all say God has not heard people cry over bubu.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcxOkht8w7c

P.s. Only listen to the first stanza please. On the second stanza, if you don't labour Obidiently to make yourself yusful you must believe tinubububu2.0 will provide you with manna from heaven from inside his bullion van.

backtovillage:
Who gave Hisbah the power to destroy goods that are not contraband but yet no consequence? Goods from South

The owner of the goods gave them authority by allowing their goods to be destroyed yet no consequence. Hopefully you are not helpless like them because you will ensure there are consequences if I entered your house and destroyed your goods.

This amotekun stopping a vehicle carrying more than 140 travelers in Ibadan is not consequence but retaliation at best like an eye for an eye. And be helped if they are smarter than you and make it consequential by suing you for contravening the constitution that guarantees free movement and for detaining without due authority.

jmoore:
Comprehension demands you understand CONTEXT and not just use words.

Maybe highlighting it would help it be seen.

backtovillage:
No immigration ni.
Is Hisbah police?

Is Hisbah stopping trucks full of people in Ibadan?

mignone:
Hmmm... thought provoking but how many more nigerians can I/you convince when d majority are "rotten".
I know what I experience d times I try to (e.g.) dissuade ppl from littering d roads/streets, same with my siblings &other like-minded ppl cos we share similar values.
Anyway, it doesn't stop me tho. People know me for my principles at work.
I'm still optimistic.

First, the majority of Nigerians are not rotten. If you go in the streets of your Nigerian neighbourhood or your Nigerian workplace to test this fact for yourself you will find more not-rotten Nigerians than rotten ones, but you thinking otherwise is indicative of you not being optimistic enough despite the stated evidence, "People know me for my principles at work".

In my own neighbourhood my people have seen me picking litter around my house so dare not litter around my house least they need to see me picking it up for them with my semi grey hairs. They in fact claim I have jujufied the land. They may horse about approaching my yard but their mediocrity stops as soon as they step on my land while walking across my compound coming back from school or market or I stick them with a ban so they have to go the long way round and they would not be able to receive the carrot of reading and exercise books from me nor would they be able to beg me to help them with their school fees which pisses off their poor parents.

Think horse taming. Instead of blaming the horse you catch in the wild for not carrying you and your luggage, you train the horse with the stick and carrots to wear a bit and carry you and your luggage wherever you wish it to go. That, is the definition of lead. But one must first train oneself to be a horse tamer I guess, or one's cart may end up pulling one's horse.

mignone:
I understand u fully well but who stops the mediocrity - either by halting d pay of d idle or whatever?
What do our leaders "get paid" for?
Dt's why I keep hoping "restructuring" does it when it eventually happens. I'm optimistic!

Our leaders "get paid" for mediocrity. Mediocre Nigerians elect mediocre individuals to lead them mediocrelly, and only a restructuring of our mediocre minds is required for mediocrity to stop.

Basically, if you and I and many more others de-mediocre ourselves we would not chose mediocre to lead us just as we would never chose a blind person to lead us if we ourselves had only one eye.

KnownUnknown:
You just drone on and on and on……….
The Bible is a wonderful tool of enslavement, colonization, and manipulation. That is exactly what I mean and history and contemporary times bear witness.

You make it sound like you are under some sort of obligation to read my "just drone on and on", which makes me wonder if I am enslaving you with my droning. I am after all using my writing to enslave you, no?

KnownUnknown:
Nonsense is not what we are discussing but your particular position. The Bible supports slavery explicitly and implicitly no matter your interpretation of Genesis Chapter 3, which, by the way, has nothing to do with slavery.

New "particular positions" are usually considered nonsense when first introduced. They said it about Galileo and about Giordan Bruno and about Socrates and even about the Jesus we read about in the Bible, so why should I be bothered you say it about me when I stand in such lofty company?

Genesis 3 precisely supports your theory of the Bible condoning slavery and actually promoting it as a tool, if you are a slavemaster or dumb enough to be an obedient slave, while the slave who prefers freedom would see the same Genesis 3 as a tool of emancipation from slavery.

But please know that I in no way expect you to see what I see nor must you agree with me. Even the slaves in the Garden would claim my particular position is nonsenses, or at least the Adams would, or they might need to start considering worshipping the emancipating serpent instead of the enslaving God.

KnownUnknown:
And it’s clear by what they wrote that they had no problems with slavery and thought it moral. Note Ephesians Chapter 6 as posted for a clear example.

Exodus shows they had serious problems with slavery when it was they who were enslaved. They did not find that moral, the hypocrites one might add. Genesis 3 shows they had no problem enslaving others and adopted slavery as a tool. That same Genesis 3 also shows how one should have problems with slavery and why and how to overcome being a slave. Adam and Eve might have worked in the Garden till they died if not, and their children would have been born into slavery too and their supposed descendants would not today be going to the moon or be sending probes to Mars and Jupiter and the further regions of the universe.

The arrival of Jesus was to save from slavery under the Romans, they thought, except he chose to save them from the greater slavemaster that was their own ignorance and that enslaved them, but trust them to ignorantly go Stockholm syndrome on him. He'd groan if he saw how they now bow to those he condemned for giving stones and serpents instead of the bread of life which is wisdom, a product usually extracted from knowledge.

We are and should not be lemmings who read a book and ignorantly believe it without reading between the lines to understand what we read, and being lemmings is what has stopped us reading more complex 'Bibles' like Adam Smith's An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations for example, or Karl Marx's Das Capital. We just might believe what we read in them without opening our eyes so we may see to apply our own critical faculties, which is a thing the Bible helps one practice so one learns.

KnownUnknown:
The enslaved would have responded with verses about Moses and the exodus, then the slavers would have responded with verses of the Israelites and their own slaves.
Neither would have produced any verses condemning slavery because the people who wrote the stories had no problem with slavery and thought it moral.

And there's the perspective. Note that we are the readers of the stories the people wrote and they don't tell us what what they wrote means to free minded us now. We are after all no more children whom they tell what to do but responsible adults who can think and reason for ourselves.

KnownUnknown:
You twist yourself in knots often over nonsense. Your position is obviously indefensible no matter what interpretation you give to the Bible to justify your position. The Bible and priestcraft remain wonderful tools of enslavement, colonization, and manipulation. I’m the name of their “lord and master”, Jesus.

Ephesians 6:
5. Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart,just as you would obey Christ.

6. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ,doing the will of God from your heart.

Although addressed to some people in Ephesus, the above would have been a hit in antebellum America.

Note that the slaves of the Egyptians were not told to "obey your earthly masters", and in fact are written to have had their God fighting against their masters for them which was a hit in antebellum America, you might find, even if obey your master was the preferred reading of the masters.

That aside, I do not think you are claiming that The Bible is a "wonderful tools of enslavement, colonization, and manipulation" even if the priesthood may have used it to enslave, colonize and manipulate. One, I think, should not determine toolability by the ineptitude of the craft persons wielding it. I could after all choose to enslave with the Garden of Eden but see how I am pointing it out as a tool of emancipation, or have I twisted it too far from your established understanding of the narrative? Basically, can it not be inferred to mean what I say it means, at least to me? (O how I wish we could move on to implications).

It is a very complex book written in antiquity with various authors writing over many centuries and from different perspectives so it is not all to be and has not been looked at nor seen from one single perspective. The Temptation of Christ shows two contradictory perspectives of the same text, and Jesus' constant battles with the priesthood are about perspective too, and by golly, different books even contradict each other a la Paul's faith versus James' work, so twisting is par for the course I'd say.

What we are discussing is not nonsense. You would not invest your time discussing it if it were nonsense.

They talked too much hence the YouTube.

https://english.news.cn/20220802/df586fce79c04a9282c05cd26e997bb3/c.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTcBgs2huRo

ReacherSaidNoth:
They are unable to answer that simple question because it is a thing of shame that their so called 'loving god' [s]is a patron of slavery , and the irony of accusing the enlightened of lacking intelligence [/s]

I beg your pardon but I am not talking about some imaginary patron loving god but about what some people wrote in the physical Bible that any of us can pick up and read, and anyone who reads it from cover to cover would not only see lots of condemnations of slavery but more important how to resist slavery too.

In fact the entire book is about that one single purpose of do not allow yourself to be enslaved, but unfortunately many of you seem to think the doctrine of the enslaved that you see around you is what the book is all about instead of reading it with your own hearts and souls and minds so you may find understanding for yourselves.

Perhaps look at the book as not for the slavemasters hence not exactly stating 'thou shalt not enslave', since the slavemasters wouldn't listen anyway, but for the enslaved so they may outwit the slavemasters and become free, and you might see the below as a lesson on how to resist being enslaved. You might even consider it might have been written in code so the slavemasters wouldn't understand though I admit I am stretching you a bit too far with that.

MrPresident1:
I am bringing the good news of God's salvation to God's people and you are resisting. You are resisting their freedom, their peace, their joy and their prosperity.

Michael David that you claim to not know is the good news you are bringing and not many are buying.

YxCEc2kUDRp2RWy:
I don't blame you. I blame my poor self and poverty

That's the spirit. You are now being responsible.

hopefulLandlord:
All these epistle and the question is still unanswered.... must be frustrating flipping Bible page to page and not seeing anything condemning it. I know that feeling

I don't know the feeling you know so I can't be frustrated like you must be.

If the Bible did not condemn slavery enough for me I am very willing to write it in there for myself. Thankfully, I would not be the first

MITCHELL96:
Why is your name like Bitcoin address ?

That's probably the JuJu that makes the request work.