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Politics › Re: “we Borrow To Pay Salaries, Government’s Income Is Challenged” – AGF by budaatum: 3:54pm On Jun 15, 2022
Most done seem to understand that Nigeria is a poor mismanaged country.

But I guess we will understand how poor we are when our salaries stop being paid because we can't borrow anymore.
Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 3:49pm On Jun 15, 2022
KnownUnknown:
So your schtick is based on brain states to wit dreams and hallucinations that are wholly dependent on cultural norms or religious beliefs of the person have the “OBE”. Even though your position is dependent on the brain, you then introduce all kinds of unverifiable claims to suggest otherwise while appealing to some vague “scientists” and simultaneously claiming “I don’t care how scientists approach it for now”. Hackneyed.
He obviously doesn't care that we would use our senses to engage with what he presents and wants us to believe him like he believes those who told him what he's expressing.

Now, if he understood that we are subjects with our own subjective minds perhaps he'd refrain from presenting his own subjective understandings and expressions as if they were objective as in not subjective to himself.
Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 3:45pm On Jun 15, 2022
triplechoice:
I thought you were smart, but you continue to disappoint me and I think others following
Please stop with your sort of thinking and use your senses to properly engage with what has been presented before you. Even you must see how wrong what you thought is.
Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 2:31pm On Jun 15, 2022
triplechoice:
Not my knowledge alone I actually wanted to say. I already had the knowledge from my own personally experience ,before reading about some of them elsewhere to see that I was not just deluding myself.

Other people also arrived at the same thing almost the same way I did.
And even now, what I know long ago to be true is what scientists are starting to investigate since the evidences is becoming for them not to ignore.

So , buda, stop looking for faults
Have you heard of confirmation bias? Its like glasses one wears that distorts what one is looking at and might have influenced you "before reading". I mean, see how many times you've misinterpreted what I've written.

There are far too many faults in your perspective, triple, that they jump out at one without one looking, but of course you would not accept that perhaps because your own "the knowledge from my own personally experience" is the only knowledge and experience that can possibly be had and anyone else's "knowledge from my own personally experience" is not worth your time or consideration especially if it contradicts your own "knowledge from my own personally experience".
Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 2:19pm On Jun 15, 2022
triplechoice:
Being genuinely interested in another person's points of view and seeking to fully understand their perspective lessens the level of judgement and creates greater relationship harmony. Copied.
Don't you think this applies to your very self?

Where have you shown any interest in anyone's views or sought to understand anyone's perspective? Is it not true that you are hell bent on promoting your own perspective which you've admitted is not really your own perspective and which you never checked before adopting?

You will grow, Triple.
Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 2:14pm On Jun 15, 2022
triplechoice:
Oh my God
Dreams sceneries and imageries are not to taken for real. They represent something.

That you should decode yourself

And if not that your attention is fully focused on judging ,you can't fail to miss that the dream serve to inspire the daughter to write a story from it

None accepted that the dream was a real event except you
One has to check with you, I mean, if a daughter can tell you she's a man, why not this too?

Not all dreams represent something, triple, or we at least never know what they might represent. Sometimes dreams are just dreams.

And do know you are talking to a person who has had solutions to maths and engineering and chess problems appear in dreams and lots of other stuff too.
Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 1:46pm On Jun 15, 2022
triplechoice:
You already started questioning me on one of them. Like you forget.

Here is from a scientific perspective

https://kids.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/frym.2019.00140
No I never! Or you at least never responded when I asked you what you'd say if your daughter dreamt she was a man, but I will question you now?

When she was 8, my daughter told me about one of her dreams. She was in a spaceship with some animals. Although she knew she was in a spaceship in her dream, when telling me about the dream, she realized the spaceship was actually a washing machine. At times, she and the animals would be out in space, but they also came back to earth. She told me the dream with a laugh and then moved on with her day, ignoring the crazy animals and spaceships that entertained her in her sleep.
Do you believe the authors daughter and the animals were in a spaceship that she realised was a washing machine, triple?
Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 1:42pm On Jun 15, 2022
triplechoice:
What you choose to follow or not follow is your choice.
Of course it is my choice not to follow triple who is just following what he was told and believes without bothering to check it's veracity.

I am Eve, triple, not Adam!

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 1:32pm On Jun 15, 2022
ono:
Left to Biden and his Climate Czar (John Kerry), it should be Zero b/d, Ibime. That's the goal and they're actively working it. You try and get that into your thick skull.
So, Biden is not going to Saudi to beg for more oil?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 1:31pm On Jun 15, 2022
basilico:
So the US is extracting more oil than ever. Why are gas prices from 2 $ to 5 today if production has increased?
You can't run automobiles on crude oil which US has in abundance but lacks the capacity to refine.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/global-refiners-falter-efforts-keep-up-with-demand-2022-05-31/

Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 1:23pm On Jun 15, 2022
triplechoice:
That's why I already issued a disclaimer at the beginning. You keep forgetting that
These are my thoughts and those of others who know the same thing. Their are methods we have used to prove them true.
What are the "methods we have used to prove them true", triple.

I'd like to see how you went about it please so I can check if they are true with my own senses.
Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 1:09pm On Jun 15, 2022
triplechoice:
Everything doesn't exist in the form of a million pound that you can count to prove it true. You shouldn't demand for nails from everyone because the only tool you have is an hammer.

There are things you need to demonstrate for your self to confirm them true.

Sometimes people make statements like,' I used to think it was so ,until I experienced it myself'
You have heard that several times.?
So seek your own experience and don't wait for others to prove it to you all the time. before you know if true or not
Demonstrate for myself as opposed to just accepting what triple says, you mean? Yes, I have heard it several times and I expect to hear it from you someday.

Have you not just described what buda and others have been doing all along with you who "used to think" how you think now but would think better when you use your senses to consider the responses you are getting?

But no. Triple expects us to follow the leads of triple as if we were all born tomorrow and have no experiences or knowledge or leads we have followed to where we are today.
Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 12:59pm On Jun 15, 2022
triplechoice:
The reception to that has discouraged me not to share anything further.. There are not my own knowledge. I have no exclusive right to them.

Just follow the lead I have given to research the others for yourself.
I can see now why you are discouraged, triple. You are pastoring to us expecting we'd believe you but your pastoring is hitting against the use of our minds.

These are not your own knowledge gathered with your own senses, but you'd like us to follow your lead anyway! Do we sound like mindless mumus to you or something, and don't you think you should rigorously check your knowledge before presenting it to us?

You got work to do dude, with your senses.
Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 12:52pm On Jun 15, 2022
triplechoice:
From our conversation, you have not i shown to me that you know all of the reasons for most of my comments. It doesn't matter if what I know is nonsense, you need to know them first. .

You need to know it so you can make a comparison between what you know before you can criticize it.
Are you going to suggest that you have not provided a reason for your comments? Please, what is the reason for your comments?

One thing I do know about triple from triple's comments is that triple is willing to believe hearsay and claims without bothering to certify their veracity and would like buda who would rather certify claims with her own senses to believe triple's comments.

I am critiquing your art of believing what you've been told without bothering to check for yourself with your own senses!
Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 12:43pm On Jun 15, 2022
triplechoice:
The phone represent something. The phone represent my body and the mechanism that keeps its system running.
No triple, your phone does not represent anything. It is your phone and I was not representing your phone with anything but the phone it actually is.

Now, start again with my simple experiment. Leave your phone and your senses in the living room and tell me if one of them follows you into your bathroom and which one and why.
Politics › Re: Why Are You Rooting For Peter Obi? by budaatum: 1:00am On Jun 15, 2022
He is much younger than the other candidates and it's about time we have a president who isn't part of the old guard.

And do note that "social media" is not being very successfully in herding anyone to follow Obi, yet, and it might be more logical to assume it is Atiku and Tinubu who is being blindly followed.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 10:31pm On Jun 14, 2022
benalvino3:
you can revert back a page or two to know the answer to this you are asking.
You too can revert back a page or two to know the answer to this you are asking. No?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 10:00pm On Jun 14, 2022
benalvino3:
I ask you a question,
You asked me a question. Is that after you answered the question I asked you or before you answered the question I asked you?

budaatum:
Which country has cheaper petrol between UK and USA, ben?
State each country per litre and gallons in dollars please.
Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 9:56pm On Jun 14, 2022
triplechoice:
I mean the consciousness that I am is the same as the energy that enlivens the material body I have possessed from birth to have the human experience.
The consciousness that you are.

Now, imagine me arguing that the consciousness that you are is not the consciousness that you are or that the consciousness that you are is not the consciousness that I buda is.

Would you not be correct in labelling that buda stupid? I would. And I will take that buda to the bottom of the river and bash its ignorant head against a rock and drown it too while I am at it. But that's just my consciousness talking I guess, or my unconsciousness, take your pick.
Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 9:48pm On Jun 14, 2022
triplechoice:
I am not arguing that since I have not demonstrated it for myself to confirm the possibility.
But we can't just dismiss what anyone says because we think it's not possible.
It is not impossible that I may have some million pounds I may claim to have in my pocket but I am absolutely certain you will require demonstration of the million pounds in my pocket before you sell me anything for it, Triple. Most will, at least, and they'd count it too. Wouldn't you? And its's not because you "think it's not possible" that I might have the million pounds I may claim I have in my pocket but just that you are savvy, I'd think, and would rather confirm with your own senses. No?

I am not dismissing anything because "we think it is not possible", I am just not accepting it just because you say so. I need more evidence, than your say so. Basically show me the money and let me count it for myself instead of asking buda who does not believe almost anything to park her buda senses and just believe triple.

triplechoice:
The human mind is limited. It only knows what it's contain in it through learning and what it has experienced personally.
You don't say. I'm certain we agreed this already. Did I not mention the limit of the knowledge I have of my home town and my state not to talk of my country Nigeria? But note how you mention that one can extend the limits of ones human mind by learning and experiencing. One of those learnings is science, triple, the rigorous training to use one's own senses instead of believing what one has no evidence for.

triplechoice:
I wanted to explain this before ,but you won't let me. So, I don't want to try again.
I didn't let you triple, or the limitations of your mind didn't?

I'm calling bicycle! One gets up and rides again when one falls.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 6:53pm On Jun 14, 2022
Ben, you are a waste of time. US is a net exporter of energy. Tons of dollars are made on export of gas alone!

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mttntus2&f=m
Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 6:45pm On Jun 14, 2022
triplechoice:
I remember an individual who claims

Some herbalist also claim

If these claims are true,
Would you like to argue that these unverified claims are true or are you asking me to just accept that they are true which I'm finding rather impossible to, because, if, triple, pigs will fly too.
Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 6:38pm On Jun 14, 2022
triplechoice:
Do you know about this experiment?
No, I don't know about these experiments, and likely never will unless you mean hearing it reported somewhere where I have insufficient data to hammer.

I'd love to see what they presented for the review of their peers. Do you know about it?
Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 6:34pm On Jun 14, 2022
triplechoice:
You forgot I argued that consciousness is energy that has taken form.
Taken form from what?

triplechoice:
Science let us know that matter contains

or has energy. I am wrong ?
Science does not let you know anything, triple. It is not some god or superbeing somewhere but simply a tool some use to ask and knock and seek to know what matter may contain.

If matter were a nail, science would like be a hammer. Though the analogy is imperfect since the science is used to analyse while the hammer is used to hammer.
Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 6:13pm On Jun 14, 2022
triplechoice:
Everything has consciousness. I know that. If you go back to my presentation you would see where I explained how consciousness has evolved from different forms that exist in nature; inanimate and animate

You brought in machine consciousness without clearly differentiating it from human consciousness. So don't blame me.
I don't think so! Your phone is inanimate and has not got any consciousness whatsoever and neither has an inanimate stone!

My LordReed, please point out to me where you "brought in machine consciousness".
Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 6:10pm On Jun 14, 2022
triplechoice:
There are no perfect analogies. You should looked at the sense of it and know that I was talking about the very occasion your phone is not separate from you and not any other time. Imagine your phone is never separate from you like a blind person who relies on external aids to move around.
No one is saying an analogy should be perfect! Fact remains that a phone is not a part of one as one's senses are. You can't go into your bathroom without your senses.

triplechoice:
The limitations of language makes it difficult sometimes for the next person to understand what we are trying to explain.
I wish you would not forget this. The limitations are not your's alone, both in expressing and in understanding. We must however do the best we can to express and understand.

triplechoice:
A non science student reading an advanced physics material would struggle to make much sense of it and may misinterpret what is read .
And probably misinterpret it worse than a science student might.

triplechoice:
That's why I don't just rely on what I have read from google research or YouTube videos without seeking further explanation from friends who I know to be experts in such matters. It appears to me most here don't do the same. Hope I am wrong about this.
So you are like me then. Do you think we deserve a pat on the back for doing research with our senses own or is that what is required of us?

triplechoice:
You too quick to Judge without knowing all of the reasons behind my comment. [quote author=triplechoice post=113800207]The limitations of language makes it difficult sometimes for the next person to understand what we are trying to explain.
[/quote]Are you perhaps too quick to judge that one is judging?

triplechoice:
And since it doesn't accurately contain what goes on subjectively ,which are reflected as brain activities, why should I rely on that to understand whom am I inside ,; my consciousness.
No one is asking you to rely on anything about your consciousness, triple. It is your consciousness, it is subjective to you alone. It is not objectively observable to us, and only ignorantly can we be telling you anything about your consciousness.

We are talking about consciousness in general, triple, and not the consciousness of triple, and there's no harm considering the opinion of those who may have spent a lot more time on consciousness than us such that they may seem like science students compared to us non-science students, as far as this topic goes.

triplechoice:
I don't think we can rely the template of science alone, at this time, to interpret who we truly are as humans.
I'm glad you say so. Thankfully, no scientist is telling me to rely on any template of what it is to be human, and if they were I'd likely not listen since I prefer to use my own senses to decide my own humaness.

triplechoice:
If we stubbornly insist on continuing with that, ,then it means what we currently think about who we are, may be not the complete truth.
Knowing who we truly are, enables us to function from the correct position of our true self. Anything else, in my opinion is confusion.

A lot of people these days are getting confused about their gender, identifying as fluid or neutral gender or any other thing that comes to their heads, without most of us asking the question, why

Sorry that I may have digressed. Just couldn't help it.
Sorry triple, but I am buda, and not a "lot of people these days are getting confused", and if I stubbornly insist on "relying on the template of science alone", which thankfully I'm far too able to not do, then I am a fool and I do not think I would live very long for it is far better for me to use my own senses to do my own science than to rely on the science done by another with their own senses.

Contradictions in this post are intended. Mind use is required.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 5:44pm On Jun 14, 2022
benalvino3:
Its the US what's your point?
Do I need to say that you should educate yourself to reduce your ignorance?

NBC News is reporting that the U.S. intends to ban imports of Russian oil today. That has caused another jump in already surging oil prices, but for many Americans the most surprising thing about this is that America imports Russian oil at all, let alone so much that it accounts for around eight percent of total U.S. oil usage. I mean, haven’t we been told repeatedly over the last five years or so how great it is that the U.S. has become energy independent?

Well, yes, we have. But that statement, while true in some ways, covers up several decades of short-sighted energy policies.

The U.S does indeed produce enough oil to meet its own needs. According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA), in 2020 America produced 18.4 million barrels of oil per day and consumed 18.12 million. And yet that same report reveals that the U.S. imported 7.86 million barrels of oil per day last year.
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/america-produces-enough-oil-to-meet-its-needs-so-why-do-we-import-crude
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 3:25pm On Jun 14, 2022
benalvino3:
So what's new in what you posted?
If the price of the ingredients goes up, the price of the product goes up as well. Russia does not have this problem. US was energy independent till they gave Biden a pen.

Now look at the price increase in the UK compared to the US. Night and day.
Which country has cheaper petrol between UK and USA, ben?

Meanwhile:

Rising petrol prices have led to an increase in fuel thefts from petrol station forecourts, according to new figures from industry experts.

Petrol prices hit record highs last week, with the cost of filling a typical family car passing £100.

Forecourt Eye, which works with 1,000 garages in the UK, said there was a 39% increase in non-payments since January.

These included motorists driving off without paying or claiming to have forgotten their wallet.

Nick Fisher, chief executive of the digital debt recovery company that traces and track non-payers, said: "This is not a good thing for anyone as more theft is going on."

He said forecourt theft had been rising month on month since Christmas, with a 19.5% spike in January and February, which he linked to the rising cost of fuel.

This was followed by another rise of 4.5% in March, 8% in April and a further 7% in May.

The soaring price of fuel is down to supply issues caused by the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and a weak exchange rate between the US dollar and the UK's sterling.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61770710
Politics › Re: The President. Tinubu Or Atiku Or Obi? by budaatum(op): 3:22pm On Jun 14, 2022
Reality3080:
ogun will kill u n that obi

Yorubas will prefer to vote shekau than an hate filled Igbo

We are supporting tinubu Muslim Muslim ticket so face your obi in peace n continue cursing Christian’s that vote Muslims

U insult tinubu n present him a devil n u want yorubas to vote for u,so u can’t promote peter obi without mentioning tinubu?

Now that churches in Igbo land are making it a religious thing,let’s see how an average northerners will vote obi

I am a Christian but this religion game u are playing will consume u

Any Muslim that vote a Christian is insulting allah
Any Muslim that vote a Christian or a ticket that has a Christian deserved to b stoned to death

Lets see if it will not spoil atiku n peter obi chances

Thank u for going d religion way,just know it’s only d Igbo Christian that will vote for obi
Abid2020 I must ask again. Would curing myself of regionalism and tribalism and I now add, religionism, be of any good or benefit to me and for my country Nigeria?
Politics › Re: The President. Tinubu Or Atiku Or Obi? by budaatum(op): 3:18pm On Jun 14, 2022
Abid2020:
Remove Obin , the battle is between Atinku and Tinnubu, these are the candidate we can talk about the rest expecially Obi will hardly get a single vote in other part of Nigeria excep SS and SE
As in those of us in other parts of Nigeria will not consider Obi because we are blinded by regionalism or tribe?

I wonder if something should or can be done about that. Would curing myself of regionalism and tribalism help, Abid, and would it benefit me to cure myself?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 3:14pm On Jun 14, 2022
benalvino3:
The photo explains most of the snowflakes here.

Blind and stupid excuses.
Why is petrol so expensive?
The cost of petrol has soared in recent days. The average price of petrol is now 182.31p per litre, and 188.05p per litre for diesel.

Fuel prices have increased sharply because the price for crude oil, which is used to make petrol and diesel, has gone up.

Crude oil was cheaper at the beginning of the Covid pandemic, because many businesses temporarily closed and demand for energy collapsed.

As life returned to normal, the demand for energy increased. But suppliers have struggled to keep up and prices have risen.

Another problem is that the oil used to make petrol is paid for in US dollars. The pound is weak against the dollar at the moment, which makes fuel even more expensive.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52188448

Sports › Re: FORMULA ONE F1 Official SeasonThread - Revamped by budaatum: 3:10pm On Jun 14, 2022
chic2pimp:
Good thing you said in your opinion sha cuz facts don't care about feelings. The GOAT holds pretty much every record there is to have in F1 so He could win not a single race in the next 7 years and still be the GOAT.
It is always "in my opinion" since I don't expect my feelings to count, and I doubt I've ever argued about Hamilton's most incredible achievements.

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