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Christianity Etc › Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by budaatum: 1:57pm On Jun 14, 2022

musicwriter:
You don't speak the English language because it's the best language in the world.

Once you realize that, you'll understand that you don't believe in Jesus because it's real, rather because our ancestors were enslaved with Jesus.

One must ask if we do speak English because "our ancestors were enslaved with Jesus", or the English, to be more precise.

Do you speak English because your ancestors were enslaved by the English, Musicwriter?

If so, why don't we, if we can and should, emancipate ourselves and speak our own languages if we could, and what would be the consequences if we did?

P.s. These are mostly for personal exercise and do not necessarily require a response. Would love to hear what anyone thinks though, I mean, why are we enslaved to the English language?

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 1:48pm On Jun 14, 2022*

basilico:
No wonder you are ignorant. Human mind is amazing Its processing power cannot be matched by any AI computer. I saw the video on a site , didn't complete watching it because these people sing crap but wondered why they pull such stunts.
When I was growing up we had decency. Whats the morale of putting on a Love Machine onstage?

To make money for herself from magas like you who are enticed to watch and promote and are provoked by her dlido. She is afterall sticking her diq in your mind which you've held still for her so she can't miss just as you held your magamind steady for frumpthp to scam you.

But note how you are failing at sticking her diq in the mind of buda. It's called the morale of being responsible for what one consumes with one's mind instead of irresponsible eating the kraken one's mind is fed.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 1:38pm On Jun 14, 2022

triplechoice:
So in other words, my phone with its mechanism which makes it possible to interact with you, is part of me working together or should be part of me working together

Is that how you understand it triple? Well, in a sense, your phone is part of you but not in the same way your senses are part of you.

I understand it as you using your phone with its mechanism to fulfil your minds desire of interacting with me. Your phone is not one of your senses after all, but an extension that humans have designed to extend the use of your sense of seeing (hearing) what I have to say and responding over large distance which you otherwise would not have been able to do without the human scientifically designed and engineered extension.

triplechoice:
If this is true, then I am not separate from my phone. I, that interpretes its signals as emerged from it.
This appears to be the same as your explanation.

I met a friend yesterday. Our discussion evolved around the question, how is one certain that what one understands is what one heard, and how does one tell if there's a difference. I think it applies here as what has appeared to you.

I think you are very separate from your phone, triple. You can leave your phone in your bedroom or on a bus and go into your bathroom without it but you can not be in your bathroom without your senses.

triplechoice:
Another question, what aspect of this 'working together parts' is aware of signals coming through the brains and interprets it?

First, I need you to be conscious of the meaning and consequence of the following:

KnownUnknown:
Of course I don’t claim to fully understand consciousness because there is no way to have a subjective experience of other people’s consciousness talk less of other beings in nature; so I only speak of my consciousness (extrapolated to other humans) and how it could just be a type amongst many just like the human eye is a type amongst many. You can’t see a cat in the dark but it sees you clearly.

I'm going to make an amendment.

Of course I don’t claim to fully understand consciousness because there is no way to have [an objective experience of other people’s consciousness because we always have subjective to ourself experiences which cloud our objectivity] talk less .....

Unknown, what do you think of my subjective edit?

triplechoice:
Remember, you already admitted that brains and its central nervous system does this this interpretation. Why not stick with that?

Now, note how many times I have disagreed with your subjective interpretation of what I've said and then read the following in answer to your question please.

https://www.christopherreeve.org/living-with-paralysis/health/how-the-spinal-cord-works

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 12:41pm On Jun 14, 2022

basilico:
Negative all the time. What the eff is she doing onstage.
Just watch but make sure your boss is not behind you and say what you think.
I have children and I would never let them watch that perfomance.

It is not the sort of stuff I watch, bas. I don't sully my kind with junk like you do.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 12:34pm On Jun 14, 2022

basilico:
Warning. Graphic. Christina Aguilera performing wearing a phallus.
How does this benefit people. If not to promote moral decadence.
Whats the end goal. Break all social norms or the family unit

Christina Aguilera’s family friendly LA Pride Show. pic.twitter.com/oobERHMzp9
— Mythinformed (@MythinformedMKE) June 13, 2022

It benefits her that magas like you watch and promote her. She makes lots of money from your ignorance.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 12:31pm On Jun 14, 2022

triplechoice:
What is this' YOUR' in the body that is aware ,separately from brains, the unique thoughts, feelings and memories that are generated.

Your ,is a possessive pronoun, so what is the ''your' that possess consciousness?

No one said "separately" but you. Working together is more like it. One becomes aware of phenomena because one has been informed by one's senses.

For instance, you are becoming aware of what I am about to say first by assimilating it through your eyes, then by interpreting it with your mind.

Lots of parts of your body are involved, like my dodgy S2-S3 is involved with my bowel.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 9:42pm On Jun 13, 2022

basilico:
Answer my questions.
Its apparent you dont realize that the whole thing is a witchunt.

Unfortunately, for you, there is a witch to hunt here.

Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 9:29pm On Jun 13, 2022

triplechoice:
Where did I say consciousness can do without a functioning brain within the human body?

And what is consciousness? You seem not be be sure what it is.

Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 9:28pm On Jun 13, 2022

KnownUnknown:
I’m not saying consciousness is limited to the brain but our consciousness is dependent on the functioning and state of our central nervous system.

You should come ask my fuqed up S2 and S3 that has left my bladder and bowel unconscious.

https://www.christopherreeve.org/living-with-paralysis/health/how-the-spinal-cord-works

Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 5:10pm On Jun 13, 2022

LordReed:
But my dear buda surely expressing and actually having are different.

The point exactly. I'd suspend this individual for not knowing the difference.

I wonder if you've heard of a thing called asoyin (I think). It's kind of like a voice speaking out of hole or a tree or something and was very popular at one time.

Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 4:02pm On Jun 13, 2022

triplechoice:
Cognitive bias has caused him to conclude that LaMDA has become sentient.

He failed in the rigourous training that would have cleared his senses.

Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 3:58pm On Jun 13, 2022

LordReed:
Can one looking at our ancestors a million years ago have imagined they were going to be the dominant species on the planet with minds capable of the feats we are seeing today? We are seeing the beginnings of what is definitely going to become more intricate in future.

I do agree my Lord, and we've come a long way already. However, now that more details surface, the redherring.

Lemoine, an engineer for Google’s responsible AI organization, described the system he has been working on since last fall as sentient, with a perception of, and ability to express thoughts and feelings that was equivalent to a human child.

How did Lemoine determine that what was expressed were "thoughts and feelings". Did he hit it with a hammer and hear it cry instead of projecting himself on the capable AI he created?

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 1:14pm On Jun 13, 2022

basilico:
There is no shortage of technical workers. You is lying.

Of course what you disagree with must be lies.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 1:13pm On Jun 13, 2022

basilico:
During WW2 america was turning out war planes and ships more than any other country
|They were importing nuts and bolts from Japan, China or Germany? Germany U boats ( submarines) were busy in the Atlantic sinking merchant ships bringing in bolts and nuts?
Do you know you cant build anything moveable without nuts and bolts

During WW2, war was being fought in nations that would have been competition for America by soldiers who would have been manufacturing nuts and bolts in competition to America, so can you see how America may have had a surge in production and sale of bolts and nuts during WW2.

Now, show me how up to date you are with conspiracies and explain why in America it is said that war pays,

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Christianity Etc › Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by budaatum: 6:00pm On Jun 12, 2022

OkCornel:
The bolded part of your quote is so true. Religious zealots do more of Bible believing than Bible learning. That’s the reason for a lot of twisted doctrines flying about.

It’s a pity.

“Berean Christians” are an endangered specie…

An evolved species, is what I'd say, since we are discovering quite a lot that seems less true than was initially believed to be true.

Hopefully, the op will realise that a supposed fictitious Jesus, as he claims, can not have possibly been a fraud, then ask why billions have supposedly been defrauded in his name.

Op, how and why were you once defrauded by fictitious Jesus?

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Sports › Re: FORMULA ONE F1 Official SeasonThread - Revamped by budaatum: 5:50pm On Jun 12, 2022

This is about where I throw Ferrari in the bin. They are proving to be neither prancing horses nor work horse donkeys!

Christianity Etc › Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by budaatum: 5:41pm On Jun 12, 2022

musicwriter:
Any place you see in the bible that "Jesus said" that was said by previous sages thousands of years before anybody heard of Jesus. Those are the true sources but once the bible written, Rome destroyed the older sources.

Rome never had the older sources, and that which they do have is in the Vatican where qualified individuals can peruse it. Thankfully, some wrote the fictional masses version. Or would you like to claim your Bible learning has been a complete waste of your youth, or that you would have learnt from the older sources?

And note, Bible learning, as opposed to what you likely did which was Bible believing.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 5:30pm On Jun 12, 2022

LordReed:
Yeah those edits are jarring but I think the names were added in after to give the conversation some context. This is a Google AI so it isn't something that someone is just scamming people with. In fact Google put the guy who had the conversation with the AI on leave last Monday because they seem to be uncomfortable with the direction he went with this.

On bodily functions, yeah an AI is not going to have those yet so it was referring to more "internal" wants and needs.

One would need to assume the needs of AI are the same needs of we humans especially if needs are what we wish to use to determine what it is to be human, my Lord, and that would take some doing.

Perhaps they should concentrate on the needs of a pet like a dog or a cat with its simple needs first, though AI is doing immense stuff as it is. The simple Unity Engine in my favourite game is blowing my mind to be honest, despite all the complaints about traffic one can very easily outsmart just as deep blue can't win at chess anymore.

Artificial Intelligence is that of human intelligence that humans can package into an electronic device, which shows how ingenious the human mind is despite the humans themselves not yet fully comprehending our very powerful human mind that we attempt to replicate.

Christianity Etc › Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by budaatum: 3:44pm On Jun 12, 2022

musicwriter:
I hope this will help a black man or woman out there to go research Jesus Christ outside of what you've been told in the bible.

I am so delighted you did what the unhistorical Jesus is written to have asked you to do which is "ask and knock and seek" and which is research.

You just might be prepared to fully open your eyes and see what you read instead of believing what you are told.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Matter And Mind by budaatum: 3:36pm On Jun 12, 2022

LordReed:
@triplechoice

Here is an interesting development in the progress of AI.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22058315-is-lamda-sentient-an-interview

it bugs my 1+, which along with "edited" raises my suspicion, but here's the rub. Note the subjective redherringed "That doesn't mean I don't have the same wants and needs as people".

I will at least have to see it piss itself or go hungry like I do and what it does about it first for me to agree we have the same "wants", my Lord.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 3:18pm On Jun 12, 2022*

basilico:
Since Joe Biden was installed his admin has been on a crusade against white supremacists. Joe Biden has no agenda other than undoing what Trump accomplished,latest being changing Air force one colors

Can you see how so lazy your mind is so "delays caused by supply chain issues and a disagreement between Boeing and a subcontractor as well as a shortage of qualified mechanics" mean nothing to you?

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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 3:14pm On Jun 12, 2022

Obrigardo:
If I was that loco guy this would touch me to the core.
I feel you so much, it feels like you're contaminating yourself leveling up with scums like these criminal trump fans.

I'm beginning to divert my time and resource elsewhere. Election is soon in Nigeria.

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Politics › Peter Obi Structure Of 100million Masses by budaatum(op): 3:13pm On Jun 12, 2022

It is unfortunate that this would seem like buda is one of the 100million supposedly structured for Peter Obi, but I can not claim I have not heard our crying over the past 8 years and think we might this time decide we would not be turkeys voting for Atiku or Tinubu, both whom I would have you consider are the last guard of the past generation and everything else.

So, structure. We don't do structure on Nairaland, I know. Structure is for united people who wish to build and accomplish together, while we all here are free agents to whom structure is almost as toxic as suggesting we commune together instead of constantly tearing one another apart. There's our tribal differences and religious differences and understanding differences etc etc with which we do our tearing as if the gods themselves have forbidden we unite and build rockets to Mars

Might Peter Obi's 100milon masses be what makes it so some of us decide to reduce our egos and consider structurising around I wonder. Just the thought of running the modes of the old hard in it would resound like Nigeria's restructuring we've all cried for, is what I think.

Forming a community group is structure, as is a WhatsApp and Snapchat and Twitter and Telegram and Facebook and etc and etc and etc to begin with. And while Peter must not pay for our structurising - we after all should not structure for a litre of kerosene and a kongo of gari - no one says we might not receive payment from Paul someday and perhaps in a better more hopeful Nigeria.

Are you Peter Obi's 100millon Masses?

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Politics › Re: Okupe Doyin Speak On Peter Obi Steping Down For Atiku,on‘alliance’against Tinubu by budaatum: 2:26pm On Jun 12, 2022

yanabasee:
It's like expecting Tinubu to step down for Osinbajo...

Peter Obi have a better chance to win the presidency than Atiku...

Just that, APC and PDP will likely work against ~~him~~...

Against us Nigerians, yanabasee.

If that is our Nigerian choice.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 2:18pm On Jun 12, 2022

Livelystone01:
We know they won't attack China directly but will create a mine field for china to walk in so as to justify their plans that have been in hatching.

They will woefully fail because they are too disorganised to succeed.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 2:16pm On Jun 12, 2022

basilico:
America was almost self sufficient before WW2. They made bolts, nuts and tiles.

I really don't know what to say to you sometimes when you make these stupid statements which just show how little you know.

No country is ever self sufficient because it either must buy something from elsewhere or sell something somewhere.

I'll give you an example. Some few hundreds or so years ago America found itself with an abundance of land but had no labour to work it after working the indigene Indians into extinction, so they went and got cheap labour from Europe to come work it for them which meant they had to export some of the produce of their land to Europe to pay for it, hence globalisation, basilico, though it's as ancient as day since every nation had to sell or buy something elsewhere like you do with your boxers from China.

Having not been able to acquire sufficient cheap labour locally and from Europe, America globalised to China who always had an organised workforce which is what makes them the giants they are today and makes them less susceptible to American exploitation, so America globalised to Africa where they found abundant cheaper and more coercible labour.

Even today, bas, America begs people to come there or sell them some crude sometimes on their Biden knees, so why you would think America that has always needed to buy and sell globally to grow itself into the giant it is today would benefit from deglobalisation just confounds all sensibilities, basilco.

Are you suggestion America leave the world to uber-globalising China and that upstart but failed Russia? Do you think those more intelligent refuse to learn from history like you bas?

Trust me. Every time I quote you I insult my self.

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Politics › Re: Okupe Doyin Speak On Peter Obi Steping Down For Atiku,on‘alliance’against Tinubu by budaatum: 1:27pm On Jun 12, 2022

brightbright:
He noted that Peter Obi going back to the PDP would dash the hopes of many Nigerians and leave them disappointed.

I have to agree. I wonder what Nairalanders think though.

Politics › Re: Peter Obi: I Don’t Need Political Structure; I Have 100million Masses by budaatum: 1:24pm On Jun 12, 2022

No he does not need structure, considering the choice before us.

What he needs is that we Nigerians shine our eyes and minds.

https://www.nairaland.com/7174733/president-tinubu-atiku-obi#113728916

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Politics › Re: The President. Tinubu Or Atiku Or Obi? by budaatum(op): 1:14pm On Jun 12, 2022

Which do you think we would regret electing the least when they disappoint us, and why?

Politics › Re: The President. Tinubu Or Atiku Or Obi? by budaatum(op): 1:13pm On Jun 12, 2022

Which do you think would do the least damage, and why?

Politics › The President. Tinubu Or Atiku Or Obi? by budaatum(op): 1:13pm On Jun 12, 2022

That seems to be the choice before us, though I will amend if other credibles are added in the comments.

"Him too lie", applies to them all. "Him too thief" too, and some "too old", and some "no structure", yet one of them are we likely to be electing to be the next president of Nigeria.

Which do you think would be best for us Nigerians, and why?

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 1:01pm On Jun 12, 2022

Ibime:
Will you show me in my original post where I said "you Nigerians"

First you have one sensitive nigga on heat, then another sensitive nigga on heat joining in.

This is my original post.

What part of my post stated "you Nigerians" or called for all that rubbish he typed except his own thin skin?

It is my opinion that you are far too intelligent for these magas, and we insult ourselves by acknowledging their worthless unfortunate existence.

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