Bishopkingsley:


God provided free will which Satan uses to oppose God

There is freedom of choice

A true all-powerful and All-knowing won't violate your own free will

God is not a dictator

Is so said to see how you defend ignorance! Really?
Let Me ask you. Provided you have a company and a staff you employed is sabotaging your company into bankruptcy. Would you because of your supposed "Free Will" still keep the employee? And if Yes, are you really a business man out to make profits?
I hope you don't tell Me humanity is not God's business because if you do, we will have to arranged for......let Me pause for your response.

Bishopkingsley:


The one who oppose God is giving you different questions to ask so you will not channel and think evil generated from him

Notice he asked the first question that brought mankind to fall

Did God say you shall not eat from the tree?

Why do you chose to blame God rather than accept mankind followed the wrong path

You are the one following a wrong path here. Open your eyes, would you? Read Genesis chapter 2 and 3. Does your ideology of Adam, Eve, God & Satan make any sense to you?

OsusTroller:

Is your god in constant battle with his own creation (Satan)?

I thought God should be all-powerful and All-knowing?

*He is.
*The whole world for now can't see the truth that is hidden in plain sight. Is there anyone whether Pastor who or who, who can say he/she understands clearly and without any question 50% passage of the bible? Of course not! If anyone say yes, he/she is worse than Liar Mohammed. Even the Story of Adam & Eve being told by Satan[The deceiver, The Liar] that, eating the Fruit will make them God and God Himself confirming in Gen:3:22 that they have become God raises so many questions if actually Satan is really who the Bible seems to portray.
*I believe there would come a time, all will be revealed and the Omniscience and Omnipotence of God will be appreciated. Till then, they are at liberty to think and say whatever they feel like because the blindness is intended.

Activist001:
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This is pure science and human brain in action. If the guys behind it spent their whole lives on Nairaland preaching nonsense and waiting for someday when they will magically fly to heaven and meet your so called "Jesus Christ" like you do, that flying car would never have happened.

And before I forget, STFU!! I'm tired of seeing your shitty posts here.

*It's very simple. Jump into the lagoon or better still, hug a live transformer since you are tired of his post.
Funny Nigerians. One airs his/her opinion, problem. You read and book space, problem. You read and pass, problem. Waity person go do self?

Workch:
Its okay if you vomit everything they use in indoctrinating you everyday in church. However, you have to realize that the indoctrination won’t work on some people.
If it’s foolish then it’s foolish, it doesn’t matter how you try to make the foolishness enticing and try to cover it, it’s still foolish.

*I would have been so sad if I was indoctrinated by any church. It would have limited My scope in understanding scriptures.
Gladly, the Bible is a spiritual book anyone can accessed and God Almighty is readily available to bring elucidation where necessary.
*I wish you will be alive when that great day comes, where you wouldn't need faith because God will be THE REALITY and not an UNSEEN REALITY* .I bet you, you have never heard this last paragraph.Oh yea! THAT DAY IS COMING!!!

Workch:
The Christian concept of a god has failed all test and if everyone should be sincere, we know he doesn’t exist. They are just trying hard to hold on to the lies in the stories by concocting more lies.

People will always feel threatened when you tell them their god doesn’t exist even when you present overwhelming evidence. That’s how dogmatism work.

The Christian description of a god is laughable, illogical, ridiculous and overwhelmingly irrational. It doesn’t agree with anything in reality.

*I admire your drive to sound enlightened. As said, the Bible doesn't make sense at all. There is no correlation or alignment about the bible looking at it from a logical perspective which you are coming from. But, I must stress, the Bible and God Almighty didn't make it possible to be understood with human wisdom because they are foolishness to Him. So, I agree with your submission that, you couldn't find or see God. However, a day is coming when all eyes shall see him, even you will eat your words, Revelation: 1:7.

Oh My God! Such level of ignorance to a truth hidden on plain sight.
*It was God's Master plan to have them eat the fruit which is why He kept them there. God knows the end from the very beginning and so, He doesn't need to test them on this issue.Man eating the fruit was a first step of becoming like God, Gen:3:22. Man was created almost a lunatic who doesn't know dysfunction from function. One over 30years and is naked but couldn't realize it.
Sorry to ask. How will you feel having a child of 18years of age and is unable to know whether he is naked or not?
Again, the first day you were preached the gospel and you believed. That's the day you ate your own fruit. Since that day, you denied your old life no matter the luxury to follow Christ who gives eternal life. Now tell Me, is there anything different between you and Adam and Eve who also denied their old life & accepted to be Like God just as you?

orisa37:



It's natural Tradition for a Father to tell a Child what to touch and what not to touch. That's Training, Instruction, Direction and Discernment for imparting wisdom, Knowledge and Understanding. The Laws of FAITH HOPE PEACE AND LOVE emanated from such ORDERS. BUT OUR SILLY EVE AND ADAM FROLICKED WITH SATAN SERPENT TO TOUCH THE FRUIT AT THE CENTER THEREBY LOOSING SENSES OF FAITH HOPE PEACE AND LOVE IN THE ONE WHO PUT THEM IN THE GARDEN IN THE BEGINNING AND THERE BY BITING THE FINGERS THAT FED THEM .

GLORY TO GOD. HONOUR TO JESUS. EXCELLENCE TO THE HOLY SPIRIT.

From Orunto27.

jesusjnr2020:
You've already proven me right with your other comments here, because out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. Like 6:45

I've already told you what you need to do come to the knowledge of the Truth, so it's up to you to either take or leave it.

You are just being invasive and trust Me, anyone with such an attitude lacks a logical defence. You think you know the truth, but actually, you know quite the opposite. I gave you My view. Give Me yours to prove Me wrong. However, you couldn't. You can't even defend the truth you claim to know? What a shame. And you are one of the people misleading innocent ones with misguided ideas. You think the bible is your jotters or news papers?

jesusjnr2020:
That means your knowledge is ignorance in Truth, for true knowledge comes with the obedience of God's Word.

John 8:31-32 (KJV)

Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

So do not expect to be able to know and comprehend this Truth unless you begin to keep God's Word.

God bless.

*You called what you don't understand Truth? Just what's the bible to you? Some novel, story book or magazine? Common you are better than this?
*What are your criteria to measure or pinpoint one who keeps God's word please?
Again, if you feel I'm off the truth, I would be pleased to be educated.

Dtruthspeaker:


Including the words "not eating the forbidden fruit"

" Goodness!!! I can't see any confusion here". If the Fruit was "" Forbidden "", then even listening to God's word and believing it is also forbidden.
If I did deviate again, please be so kind to enlighten Me if it's not too much to ask.

budaatum:


In fact, not eating the fruits of knowledge is indeed what kills.

Those who truly eat the flesh of Christ and who drink Christ's blood do not merely believe they eat the flesh and blood of Christ, they know they are consuming the knowledge and understanding of Christ's teachings with their eyes and all their senses and so do they gain wisdom.

I'm glad you could also see that, those who are busy lambasting Adam & Eve for eating the fruit are busy doing the same thing almost everyday. Adam and Eve ate and became enlightened. Believers listened to God's word and believe it. This gives them wisdom as correctly said.
Adam and Eve ate the fruit to become like God thereby denying themselves of their luxury in Eden. Christ denied His luxury in heaven came down on earth as a man for mankind. Achieving anything is guided by the Law of Sacrifice. Do you want this? If yes? What are you ready to let Go? Christ let Go of His Glory; Adam & Eve led Go of Their Luxury in Eden. Jesus said in Mark :8:35, " if anyone wants to save his live, he must first lose it..."

budaatum:


You delight me immensely. It's people like you that give me hope that the eyes of we Nigerians will someday open en masse and we will become like Gods. And when that day comes, we will say, "Let there be Light", and there will indeed be enLightenment, and Nigeria will not suffer another power cut of darkness ever again.

Likewise you. Your kind words[more like Prophecy] and willingness to agree with truths also give Me hope for a better Nigeria. Cheers!

Dtruthspeaker:


Complete Departure from Post.

Nothing here is about sick animals and moon but Adam and Eve not eating that which was forbidden.

Another error. Do you call "A Choice Handed to you" a forbidden? Adam and Eve where given a Choice to either take or Leave it.
*If God didn't want them to have that fruit, He shouldn't have kept it there.
1-Leaving it there,
2-Telling them not to take it because if they do, will surely die, Was just all a Choice and a disclaimer notice to them. Remember after eaten the fruit, In Gen:3:22, God confirmed that, Adam & Eve are now like them. This means, prior to eating the fruit, they were not like God. How can you be God if you are naked and you couldn't realise it? How can you be God and have such a dull mind? Please avoid reading the bible with preconceived ideas.

jesusjnr2020:
A whole lot.

*No sickness.

*No death.

*No pain.

*No hunger.

*No worries.

*No accidents.

*No lust.

*No pride.

*No lack.

*No deformity.

*No aging.

*No natural disasters.

*Many more.

Everything would be just how God made and intended it to be in the beginning. Very good!

Adam and Eve would have reaped the reward for overcoming the temptations of the devil and not falling into sin.

One of such would have been access to the tree of knowledge because they had passed the test.

They would have retained their position as the rulers over the Earth and everything creature that God made in the beginning. Everything would still be subject to their authority.

However they did eat of it in disobedience to God's Word, and the rest as they say, is history.

But all hope is not lost because there's still heaven to make up for the loss, so ensure that you don't miss out on that.

God bless.

*Please, Just where in the Bible did you get all these?
As far as I can tell, Adult who are naked and don't know so, adult who couldn't reason on their own are either robots or nonentities or worse corpses.

I just recalled similar case with the Presidency. Whenever Buhari made a public statement like the "someone can't sit in Lagos and decide for APC"", his media aid will come out to explain the real message. I'm just surprised, is it that these people don't just know how to communicate or they just pretend? Those that feel the need like oop to explain, what's their purpose?
Because as far as I am concerned, explaining his message is like telling us that, he Doesn't know how to communicate because I'm not insane.

"" I will be what I choose to Be"". For Me, whatever He wants us to call Him is dependent on Him. If He chooses to be a monster, trust Me, He will play a monstrosity role in the lives of people. If He wants us to call Him Abba Father,He will Play that role & wouldn't push it down our throats. He will give us reasons beyond reasonable doubt why we should call Him that. Whatever He wants people to refer to Him, He will prove that to them through what He is ready to do. He is a person of integrity & not an arrogant coward. Respect is earned and not demanded. Any good father knows that. If you Play the role of a Father to a person, he or she doesn't need a prophet or you to tell him/her to call Him father. In a nutshell, "" I Will Be What I Want To Be"" wouldn't happen through force but through the role He will Play in people's lives. If He wants to be called King SHALOM, then everlasting Perfect Peace you will See.
*In conclusion, no single person can tell anyone what they should call Him. You relate to Him according to how He reveals Himself to you. My submission. Thanks.

You are one of the people he is referring to. Because if you can think, you wouldn't ask us to accept such derogatory utterance.

Lumanzekingsley:
Why can't you all reason with this man, we all know he said the truth

I have difficulty processing how Oyedepo will come out Publicly and Say the youths in his church are daft. It's so sad! Who made him a Pastor please?
And you who will want to came after Me for airing My dissention about his misguided utterance simply because he is your pastor, please don't. Because if you do, you will just confirm truly that you are a daft, a punk.

ifex370:


If you have not won as many souls as he dd, you cannot speak against the man.

This country will never ceased to amaze Me. Ignorance is the only disease that, the afflicted doesn't know he is sick.

ifex370:


He was still better than you can ever be.

*Sorry, did you read his post? I did and trust Me, I didn't see any self aggrandizement there. If you have a contrary view, please feel free to share. It's a public platform.
For Me, there is so much sense in what he wrote.

RingRoadMafia:


Day of reckoning kill you there!

I may not know that baffoon personally, but I know him on this forum well enough to know that he's deluded. If that's what you're pained about, then I'm sorry, I can't help you. It's people like you that bow down to worship your fellow man because you think that he's better than you. He may even be better than you because if you had sense in the first place, you'd know that this nonsense they propagate on this forum as "christianity" is false doctrine. Fork off my mentions!

*Really people are destroyed because of ignorance. The Life you have came from Me, you fool!

RingRoadMafia:


Shut up you idiot! These things have been happening for centuries. Stop making a public nuisance of yourself. Ignorant baffoons!

*You are too quick in pelting insults at your fellow man simply because he aired his harmless views on a public platform that everyone is allowed to express his/herself. I'm sure you are one of the people castigating Buhari and yet you couldn't see how corrosive you are to another fellow human. You don't even know who is this person to begin with. Trust Me, you more especially need his message. A day of reckoning is here. Brace up, you are in for an unpleasant surprise if it's not too much to say. I can only Pity you if you remain like this. But, My heartfelt desire is for you to see change.

Don't start a Fire you can't put out. Okotie & Oyak. have issues but has not generated into the level you are alluding to..

naptu2:
Reignition of their 2000s feud.

Chris Okotie vs Chris Oyakhilome and TB Joshua.

(The other person that he was referring to is Oyakhilome).

Can we really say for sure if Okotie was referring to TBJ? If yes, then I must say, it's not his PLACE to pass such unfounded pronouncement. At least, Okotie is not God Almighty. We are not even sure if his hands are clean if permitted to say.
Secondly, it doesn't seem right for one to gloat over the dead of another, especially if you have ascribed yourself a position of so much reverence.
Let he who thinks he stands watch.

Let he who thinks he stands watch. Remove the wood from your eyes so as to clearly see that in another. Okotie, you are not saved!

Kobojunkie:
The dead are sleeping in their graves just as Jesus Christ said they would, waiting for Him to return to judge them.
Let no man decieve you with their lies... there are no souls currently in either Heaven or Hell. That will only happen after Jesus Christ returns.

*You couldn't have said it any better*.

WebSurfer:

Ogbeni keep quayet..

You must quit being stupid, passing foolishness and gullibility on this forum.

I really cannot comprehend how a fully grown adult, with senses, reason like goats.

*Sorry, it seems to Me you are the goat here because there is a plethora of sense in his comment. Only One person truly knows him well and that's The Almighty God. And this is what he/she hinted. So, what's your points if it's not too much to ask please?

Kobojunkie:
1. Peter's shadow?

2. You compare a human's shadow to pre-packaged water and oil?
what next, are you going to compare Jesus Christ's garment He was wearing when the woman with the issue of blood touched Him to the handkerchiefs that your pastors sell you claiming they are "anointed" because they have been "prayed" upon?
You have My vote.

3. Ofcourse I am aware that your pastors have close doctors, some of whom pay them home visits as well. But why didnt your pastor drink his own holy water and anoint himself with his brand oil so he too could puke out the "poisonous substance" instead of heading to the hospital?

4. Jesus Christ said by their fruits you shall know them.... not by listening to their messages only.

You have NY vote.

SultanOfAbia:
Pentecostal Churches are scams

Please seek for help while it's not too late.
Life without God is just a bloody charade.

MrPresident1:


The gift of God is without repentance. The one the son sets free is free indeed.

Sheer ignorance. Don't use a scripture to build a doctrine. When a demon is cast out from a person, it goes looking for other person to possess. If it doesn't see, it will come back to it former house. If it find it empty, it will go and invite 7other wicked demons and will occupy the person and his/her bad stage will become worse.

domino4211:
Christianity is a business

Only the foolish over religious bigots refuse to accept this fact..

I don't need to ask who you are. Your words sold you out. But I will strongly advice you work on yourself to be a better person who respect people.

Obatala7Kronos:
This is the seed & result of the latest Lexuses, Range Rovers, Bentleys, Rolls Royces, Duplexes & Mansions you see all over Lekki & environs.

Children of Abomination with their lousy & despicable attitudes - always quick in tarnishing our image with their rogue behaviors - lacking in discretion, but only good at running their odoriferous buccal cavities.

We developed Lagos, we own all the properties in Abuja, we built Kano.

They're quick in referring to Nigeria as the "Islamic Sultanate of Nigeria caliphate jungle" and a "Zoo" but forget that their ancestors & kinds have always been at the forefront of tarnishing Nigeria's image home & abroad.

No doubt, Nigeria is a failed state and an evil dungeon - I agree. But should that be a justification for your people's greed & unruly behaviour everywhere they go?

They travel abroad with their primitive & dishonest mentality to dis-virgin our National image through your cocaine-trafficking, fake drugs & armed-robbery business in your host Countries - thereby triggering Xenophobic attacks with their lousy & criminal lifestyles against other innocent blacks and then come back home to call Nigeria a Zoo.

This is the same way they leave their erosion-ravaged & landlocked territory, and board their Ekene-Dilichukwu & Gobison buses with their "Ghana-Must-Go" bags, knicker, fake nike singlet & a pair of slippers to come explore the "Land of Milk & Honey" in the South West.

They hawk gala & fan yoghurt in the traffic during the day and resort to car-jacking at night.

I remember asking my late military father (who fought on the side of the Nigerian Army) during the Biafran War - why the majority of their kiths lack home training & respect, and he told me it was because their fathers & grandfathers were killed & eviscerated by the Nigerian Army during the Biafran war, and as a result, their disconcerted mothers couldn't discipline & raise their children properly especially when most of them were turned into sex slaves by the victorious & gallant soldiers of the Nigerian Army.

Biafra Must Come! Biafra or Death!! Biafra Must Come!!!

Look, no one is holding your "BIAFLA" from coming ..... but unless you and your people go back to each and every Country where Nigeria's image & reputation have been soiled by your Cocaine-Trafficking Businesses, Kidnappings, Armed Robberies & Unruly Behaviors - and then mend it; I am afraid your "BIAFLA" will only come inside the anus of Lord Luggard.

Awon OMO Iran Kiran!

You really think you make sense? This does not in anyway make you any sophisticated- "Comforting delusion". For the record, I'm not a fan of Biafra but if you wish to voice your dissention, do so with respect. Only then it will be worth consideration. He who calls for equity must do so with clean hands. Mr. Over right!