₦airaland Forum

OKKO:
Nsukka is the sixth state of the South East

Anioma before adada state

BabaRamota1980:
Do you all know how serious this is?

Do this, add SS number to help SE.

SS + SE
305 + 95 = 400

153billion short of SW's 553!

YORUBA, I bow to una!

Lagos was never part of western region.

If you look at the old regions, you will see that the old eastern region components faired better as predicted, '' the fastest growing economy".

What the whole old western region(mid Western inclusive) gathered is just 250 billion naira which is below that of old eastern region and if you remove mid eastern region , the revenue of old eastern region revenue is twice that of western region.

In essence, OLD WESTERN REGION excluding MID WESTERN is poor and this confirms why they are against BIAFRA. Post COVID-19 will reveal this as done in 2015.

Finally, it's better never imagined what old western region would become without proximity to Lagos.

Obamaofusa:
Most did not want to leave but for the political class.The minorities in the eastern region were almost 45%, and they had the most resources,land etc but the Igbos greatly marginalised them with their renowned nepotism and tribalism.


The minorities were given 9 out of 26 positions.
This is sheer wickedness from the Igbos.
The minorities in the east were very much eager to be cut off from the Igbo but the minorities of the western region were very sad but for their political leaders.

Ibadan was the capital and it is understandable that the bulk of development will be there and the bulk of the money used in developing Yorubaland and even Benin-Delta came from cocoa. How much is the tax being paid now talk less of then when stipends were taken as taxes and just a few usually paid the tax
Most of the Midwesterner enjoyed free medical care, free education etc.

Most of the citizens did not want to go but for the political leadership..

THIS IS FROM THE ARTICLE:

In the weeks preceding the formal launching of the united �Action Group� at Owo from April 28 � 30, 1951, Anthony Enahoro had organized a meeting of Benin and Warri leaders of thought in Sapele, ostensibly to discuss Midwestern solidarity. People like Gaius Obaseki, Arthur Prest, Festus Edah (Okotie-Eboh), Okorodudu, S. O. Ighodaro etc. were present. At the meeting, most participants expressed sentiments against the creation of a separate midwestern region. However, two dissenters, Chike Ekwuyasi and E. O. Imafidon who were present, rushed back to Benin to alert Omo-Osagie who then called a rally of his own and initiated counter-measures [Oronsaye, op. cit.; Uwaifo, op. cit

Where did you get your 45% from?
We have 8 states from the old eastern region namely Anambra, Ebonyi, Imo, Enugu, Abia, rivers, Akwa Ibom and cross river.

All the south east are igbo and in the present rivers state, Ahoada province, etche, all ikwerre LGA, And Ndoki/Asa were classified as Igbo prior to state creation.

We can deduce from the above that :

A. Rivers state is over 65% igbo based on old eastern REGION.
B. IF the A above is correct, it means the mminoriy(apologies for describing indigenous people as that) are like 30% of the old Eastern region. This can be deduced from the fact that the Igbo still occupies close to Six of the Eight present states.

Please post facts and don't just post because you want to win an argument. There was never a time they were 45%.

Moneywomen17:
Ibos are very tricky. What is the population and landmass of edo and delta which is Midwest compare to yoruba. Now compare rivers, cross river, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom population and land mass against ibo own and ask urself who was marginalizing who among the 2.

Do you know the percentage of Igbo land in present rivers state? In that article, etche and ekpeye are in present rivers state and they held positions.

Tonymegabush1:
So bad I must affirmed... The soldier need not show his face, will the Nigeria service chiefs do the needful or rather consequences of actions..

How sure are you they survived? They cried because they were just some minutes away from their death. Listen to the background sound.

This is painful.

This video should be taken down

toscolee:
Help the poor and the widows.
Pay your tithe too.
Your church will struggle to operate when you don't pay tithe.
Never forget helping the needy o.
The Bible says that, he that gave to the poor lended to his maker ( God).

You haven't answered my question. Who do you pay your tithe to? Where is it commanded to pay? Who is authorized to collect/receive such?

We have harvest, offering, and so many ways of raising money for church operation.

donchibe:
Deuteronomy 26:12 Amplified Bible (AMP)
12 “When you have finished [a]paying all the tithe of your produce the third year, [which is] the year of tithing, then you shall give it to the Levite, to the stranger, to the orphan, and to the widow, so that they may eat within the gates of your cities and be satisfied.
There are two tithe here,
1, tithe commanded by God-This one most go to God not negotiable.
2, tithe given to the poor after you most have done the former. is more like alms-giving.

Which tithe must go to God? That's how you business men deceive your followers and not followers of Christ.
The first and second year of your tithe is for your consumption in the house of God and not to be given to yours pastors or God. God doesn't need that useless paper.

The third one is for poor and less privileged without forgetting the priest

You practice tithing to always be conscious of the fact that every goodies come from God.

Finally, in all the verses where tithes are mentioned, you have power over the tithe and not this modern preaching of pastors/guy men keeping your tithe.

toscolee:
This is alms giving, not tithe.
A lot of Christians don't give alms, it's unscriptural.
Pay your tithe and take care of your family.
Also help the poor and needy.

Pay your tithe to who?
Does God needs that useless money of yours?
Please,help the poor and widows around you and be blessed.

Giving, giving, giving and giving are all what humanity is and not tithing that won't add anything to your salvation.

Oluromantic:
Malachi 3:10 answers it all. It says all the full tight should be taken to the house of the Lord. You can give your sister money, gifts etc but ur full tithe is not negotiable

Hahhahahaha. Religious thief.
Deutronomy is where the law of tithe is Written.
All the tithe should be taken to the house of God and do what with it?
Are you meant to give to pastors/God or consume it?
Laws in the old statement have rules and those rules must be adhered for you to benefit from the practice.

pword:
How this man get the money he is using to build all these projects is what I don't know, I think he should be investigated because Ebonyi is not as rich as this.

Who told you Ebonyi is poor? Do you know how many millions they make daily from chippings and mining?

People see Ebonyi as poor state because the past governors said so. A very good percentage of all the roads and buildings in the east utilized stone from the state.

I pray he doesn't make the same mistake Sullivan made. Ugwuanyi remains the worst governor ever elected in igbo land. He has not done anything in the past six years.

Uncle Dave, please pick a man with the same passion, ability and vision as your successor.

You have done well Odogwu. All we need in the East is power plants and an Eastern grid. This national grid is nonsense.

Good one.
We need another modular refinery in owaza, Abia state.

SpaceTour:
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Ifeanyi Igwe(Achi4u, erosion2020)

Coward. When you hid here to.make your unfounded post earlier you were not mad and frustrated? You thought you are not being monitored? The only reason you backed off is because you met someone that hits it hard where it is most painful to bear.

The truth is that Abakaleke people are always have this complex and timidity that anyone is competing with poor back illiterates.

Listen, nobody is interested in Ebonyi and their backward useless, worthless, hopeless state. Anambra for instance where 2/3rd of your people relocated for better life and greener pasture doesn't even recognize you lots as igbos not to talk of being interested in your useless state. So be guided.

Almajiri-igbos= Ebonyi people

Please don't generalize when it comes to present Ebonyi state.
We have ohaozara and Afikpo that are doing very well in education, politics and business.
The only place with less human resources in Ebonyi is Abakiliki/ezza people but they are picking.
Ebonyi of old is different from this new Ebonyi.

God bless Igbo land.

God will punish that man for building this rubbish.
Just imagine! This is 2020 Mrs Ugwuanyi.

I have always been against politician with zero experience in Public and private institutions.

Gburugburu failed the whole Nsukka people and Enugu in general.

Sullivan punished Enugu with this fat pig.

We have three years to go and he will be forced to vomit all he has stolen.

Ozoemena na Enugu. MRS Ugwuanyi kind won't repeat again in Enugu.

Udo.

Grgton:
Enugu Airport not viable?? what kinda con3, is this. then why waste resources in reparing some facilities there

Hope you went through this article.
He told you that at a point before the shutting down of AIIA, that it was the third performing airport behind Abuja and Lagos.

Guy man and his business.

Kinematics:
Just take a look and you and your cohorts on this thread..

Clap for yourself.

Lagos turned out as expected. More cases to be reported from next week.

From next week, Lagos will be reporting at least 500 cases daily and this will last for Two weeks.

Fortunately, number of death will be on decline.

pazienza:
I agree with your submissions, except the 5. We don't need any form of union with non Igbo groups down south. The toxicity and resentment coming from those quarters has passed the threshold that would make such arrangements worth sacrificing the lure of homogeneous Igbo country for.
I believe we can relate with all of them through AU and ECOWAS as mere neighbors. Those people are not our friends or enemies, and to mistake them for brothers or kins is the highest height of delusion. They are just neighbors with interests some of which are in clash with Igbo interests, and we must relate with them like we should relate with the rest of humanity. Not with love or hate, as no such emotions exist in international relations, but strictly for business and aim to protect and advance Igbo interests. We work with them in areas their interest align with ours, and work against them, where their interest is injurious to ours.
This is how we rebuild Igboland. Emotionalism must make way for pragmatism. But under no circumstances will I be a party to any form of arrangements that involves forming a country with non Igbo groups down there.

You have a point on need of forming an alternative group to present a better front for Biafra actualization. Onlytruth the last Eze Ndiigbo in NL talked extensively about this years ago, when we figured out that MASSOB was dysfunctional, this was before IPOB came on board.
Its a good idea, but I think if we can get IPOB to have a rechange of strategy and accept our suggestions, it would be better than starting to build a new organization from scratch and start clashing with IPOB, which we further divide our camp and set us more backward as far as this battle for Igbo independence is involved. For now, I think we should apply more pressure on IPOB to change, forming an alternative group and abandoning the wonderful structure IPOB has built across the entire world to start afresh, doesn't sit well with me. I believe IPOB should be given more time to correct her own mistakes. The more we apply pressure by being vocal.on need for Pure Igbo country, the more we win over our people in IPOB.

You can join us at Proudly Anioma, Proudly Igbo page ,if you want to exchange ideas with people who believe on Igbo only Biafra, also you can.join Igbo Omenana/Omenala defenders project group
( though, these ones are pro jewish Igbos, which I don't support, but atleast, they are Igbo purists who believe in Igbo only country).

Chukwu gozie gi.

That's the way to go. We don't need non igbo group for any reason whatever.

The earlier we start seeing them in way we see other tribes in Nigeria, the better for us.
I like what umahi, Obiano and Uzodinmma is doing. We are igbo and have a major stake in Nigeria as Long as this country stands.

In 2023,we will correct all that and take our rightful position in this present country while working for an igbo nation.

Ezemust:
can u count the numbers of company in nnewi,onitsha,enugu and owerri?we are business minded peepz we cant remain in a single spot.we constantly look out for a strong market.my uncle started as a patent medicine dealer in kebb state.he grew to own a pharmastical company dia cus thats where his market is.now he owns one of the glamouros hotel in nsukka.he just started constuction of a syring manufacturin company in enugu.thats how igbos roll.kaduna crisis has tut many igbos lesson.they cant consentrat in one place.they move around.take watever yoruba people say with a pinch of salt

That's the new spirit bro.
Do whatever you like outside igbo land. Whenever you have the capacity to build a factory/industry, think igbo land.
I will start my factory(oil and flour mill plants) though; on low scale and this will be located in my community.
This is what Asia countries are doing.
O bu anyi ga aru ba anyi.

anungangampu:
Not inconsequential..
Our boys are lavishing away.


One cause is Demonizing boyi boyi.


A system that saved us for long 40yrs is being neglected..

We have to revisit this.

efe2real:
This thread is really hilarious. It shows Nairaland is different from reality. The question I keep asking myself is that how come a tribe that you can find in every nook and cranny in this country does not know other tribes opinion about them? Anybody that have stayed in Benin, Warri, Yenegoa, and Portharcourt will know that the non-igbo speaking tribes in these states do not want to have anything to do with Biafra. But one IPOB member in Abia thinks otherwise because he thinks life starts and ends on Nairaland. Even, most of the igbo-speaking are yet to accept that they are even Igbos.

The next card that IPOB is playing is that the tribes in the South South or Niger Delta are not united. Sadly, they are right, but everything is all about negotiation and compromise. Even the so-called Igbos are not even united. Of course, anyone that has stayed in Igbo land knows Ebonyi people are the rags used to clean the ground in the South East. Most even view them as inferior Igbos or denied them as Igbos. What about the Enugu (in particular Nsukka) igbos that are viewed as 'wawa' Igbos. Of course, an anambra man will view himself as a superior Igbo compared to others. Let's not forget about the aniomas that are referred to as fake Igbos already. Imagine an ugochukwu from Anambra is referring to an Ugochukwu from Delta State as fake Igbo. SMH. But, you will see Igbos in Nairaland painting themselves like they all love themselves like saimese twins. No one should deceive anyone on Nairaland that the Igbos are united and loved themselves so much. Most of us have stayed in the East before, so we know what's up over there.

One thing people should realise is the Igbos are not different from the Hausas and Yorubas. In fact, they are even worse because of their greediness and cunny way of life. As far as I am concerned, all this Biafra agitation is just a smokescreen to control the resources of the tribes in the South South region all by themselves. Biafra with the tribes of the Niger Delta will be Nigeria all over again, but this time the Igbos will be in exactly the position they have always dreamt of: the sole controller of the resources of the Niger Delta. Most of us can see through their deceits.

I don't have any issue with Biafra as long they go with their Igbo-speaking brothers (those that want to follow them anyway). The non-igbo speaking tribes in the region will decide their fate themselves (that is even if Nigeria should stop co-existing). And personally, I think Niger Delta republic is the best bet for the tribes in the region. There, the tribes can practice true federalism and state should be created along ethnic lines and be in total control of their resources and the center should be made weak. Then, l, as an Urhobo man, will know who to hold responsible when things go bad in my state. Of course, it will not be the president because I don't have business with him. Well it is just an opinion that can be fine-tuned and worked on. But Niger Delta as a country can thrive peacefully and successfully. Biafra is a no no. I believe nobody from the south south wants Nigeria Again Part 2 to happen in Biafra except the Igbos, of course.

Shut your mouth up. Do you know the meaning of Wawa? Do you know what it stands for? Do you know the people call Wawa in igbo land?

WAWA means no ; just as MBA means no.

Blackking98:
it's is common sense that when we talk of Niger Delta republic we talk about Edo, Akwa Ibom, bayelsa,cross River, non Igbo speaking parts of Delta and River's. We have no problem leaving your Igbo brothers for u, after all I doubt an ogoni man or ijaw man will want to share the same country with an ikwere man again or an urhobo man with an anioma man with due respect, your brothers will join u, tell your people to just leave us Alone

Nothing like common sense here; let's discuss reality. At the mention of Niger Delta, average Nigerian sees it as present south south.

It will save you lots of stress if the ND is defined moving forward.

Wish you all the best in your quest for ND Republic and don't forget to carry Ikwerre along.

Igbo nation and Niger delta are great nations.

Peace.

Blackking98:
exactly my brother. They're really irritating, you hardly see hausas or Yorubas involve themselves in our discussions but some igbos will jump into it and start forming Lord's.

There is a reason to that. Few igbo here do that because, your present ND includes the igbo clans in SS which we are against. We want all igbo clans to form a republic when the time comes. Nigeria won't last forever.

I challange you to open a thread and redraw you ND map excluding the igbo speaking part of Present SS geopolitical zone except Ikwerre(they are not Igbo as they claimed) ; No igbo man will interfere unless the impostors.

This is the only solution to avoid igbo comments on your new ND territory. As long as you include all the present SS geopolitical zone in your ND, then Igbo are the second majority behind Ijaw nation and have every right to discuss it.

Peace.

lastempero:
First u need to change the constitution for you to generate and transmit power independently thats where amajiris will come for ur neck. Barth nnaji's plant is wasting over there at aba because of the useless constitution.

That's where the official agitation will start. Our governors, senators and representative need to make this demand through the executive(Mr President) while carrying the law makers, the people and media along.

How long will we wait for FG to generate and transmit power? We can build this through contribution. We have done this in the east and it worked.

This National Grid nonsense is counter productive.

We have to take bold steps.

pazienza:
Don't kid yourself.
Niger deltans when offered the choice of devil and Ndiigbo, will choose the devil before Ndiigbo.
It's time Ndiigbo do away with these self deceit and deal with the bitter truth.

Go and check the 1979 and 1983 presidential elections.
Shagari, Awolowo and Zik were the three major contenders.

Guess what? Awolowo and Shagari got more votes than Zik in all the minorities states of Bendel (Delta and Edo) old Rivers state (Bayelsa and Rivers state) and South East state (Cross River and Akwaibom).
Zik barely got 5% of votes casted in those regions.
It was in old Plateau state that Zik got manageable votes outside Igboland.

Ndiigbo should stop searching for kinship/brotherhood where it's obvious none exists. We should rather focus on working with our neighbors on areas of mutual interests devoid of emotions.

Thank you bro. I have said it and will repeat it, those minorities should seize to exist in our mind.
We want igbo republic and that's all.

We are great and will become greatest with an igbo republic.

UmuezeOzoagba:
Abakaliki is fast leaving Oshogbo and Ado Ekiti behind.

No need for this.

UmuezeOzoagba:
The rise and rise of Ebonyi state....

Good one from the Engineer.
Engineer Dave, you have passion for development and infrastructure.

I am pleading on behalf of manufacturers and upcoming industrialist in igbo land for an Eastern power generation and transmission.

We need power in the East His Excellency. We need to exit this National Grid Nonsense where they allocate less than 15% power to the east.
Champion this project and execute it through Nestoil company/subsidiaries and Seplat.

Do this and stand long Mike okpara and Sam Mbakwe in Igbo land.

Regards.

ITbomb:
This, I believe settles our differences

If we want to be Biafra, we will negotiate the union. NOT BY FORCE OR FIAT

Nobody is negotiating with you. We want only igbo republic. You are free to form whatever country you so wish and we can trade freely when the time comes.

pazienza:
Has Ndiigbo ever grabbed a non Igbo land before.
I remember how you claimed 5years ago that Ndigbo renamed Calabar to new Onitsha during Biafra era. I asked for evidence, you had none.
I thought you repented all these times, too bad a leopard can't change its spots.

The failure of Biafra did more bad to minorities than it did to Ndiigbo. Ogoni land lie in desolation with no clean up in sight, while all her oil money were siphoned to distant lands of Lagos and Abuja by Arewa/Yoruba alliance. Crude oil is about becoming worthless in next two decades, what would be the fate of Ogoniland then?

In Biafra, PH which Eleme is part of would have looked better than Abuja.

But who am I to question your shortsightness. This is why I have decided that Biafra 2.0 must be an Igbo (Igbo bu Igbo and not Igbo bu Bini) republic.

Ndewo

Supported. We need only igbo republic.
Ikwerre shouldn't join this new Biafra.
We need productive igbo clans with same mindset.
Ndoki, Ndoni, etche, omuma, egbema, ogba and Anioma with present South east states are perfect.

God bless igbo nation.

Deebwebb:
exactly,i don't know why our governors are not fearless and smart

God should just pity us and give us leaders that are smart and intelligent.

We need to boost our manufacturing sector because that's where our strength lies and this can only be achieved when there is power.

Those who are close to these governors should start singing this as song to them.

We need power in the Eastern region.

koning:
Why should R3 customers in Enugu pay more than customers in Abuja?!.


On what basis was the calculation made?.

That is Nigeria way of suppressing the south east growth.
It is well.
It's high time the south east governors start negotiations on independent power generation and transmission which will help the east increase its industail/manufacturing capacity.

We have Gas and coal to achieve this. Nestoil can execute the project.

Peace

frozen70:
I am yet to understand how this works

He took the phone and transferred 230k from the account before the woman comes out

So he knows the bank the woman uses and knows her pin number

This PM news, I no dey trust am

Typical western media. The story makes no sense.