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RiyaGoddess:
Haba I won't say such na.

Of course u won’t. U know it’s a joke

Watchmanjesse:
One thing I learnt recently is never to argue what I don't know. There are many things we claim to know but it's only half or partial knowledge about these things. Learning is a gradual process and everyone must continue to learn till death.

Let's take for example, few days ago someone came to our pharmacy to buy diclofenac sodium, diclofenac was boldly written on all the products we have which led me to say we don't have diclofenac sodium. But our boss told me to check properly that most of the diclofenac products I'm holding is diclofenac sodium and I almost started arguing until one of my colleagues came and showed me where diclofenac sodium is written on the packet, then I shut my mouth immediately. The painful aspect is that I know these drugs too well but never took observation of their compositions. I thank God for not making me fool myself by arguing blindly.

As humans we tend to only accept what appeals to our emotions or opinions without considering the claims of others. When you come across something contrary to your opinion, you humble yourself, sit down and learn so that you can be able to discover the appropriate truth. There is even a proverb that says "in every rumour there is an element of truth."

The EnthronedbyGod guy is doing a nice job, there are many things he has observed and experienced that many of us has not, so instead of arguing, why not allow him dish out his knowledge without causing an uproar. It is then left for you to either believe or not afterall belief in a thing, person or opinion is not by force.

@CanadaOrBust since we haven't seen anyone using voodoo to help or redeem a nation why don't you venture into that business or don't you want fame and riches too? At least we can get first hand information about the claims of voodoo from your own experience.

@Riyagodess can you share what your daddy told you in regards to the juju questions you asked him? Because of me please spill the beans. Lol

We will go far in life only if we have a humble heart to learn, unlearn or relearn instead of having pride in false, partial or half knowledge.

Thanks.

God bless.

But can’t u see u r the one with a closed mind. All I’m doing is asking questions - which is exactly how u learn, while at the same time saying many times that ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE. There is even a saying “question everything”. That’s how knowledge advances not wide-eyedly accepting every unsubstantiated rumor u hear

y3mi:
ANSWERS ONLY A TRUE SON & DAUGHTER OF AFRICA CAN GIVE

WiLdFLame
ORUNMILA IS A NOT JUST A GREAT PHILOSOPHER, IN HUMAN FORM HE IS THE GREATEST, ORUNMILLA is the only deity who witnessed it when allllllha/yahweh Eledumare/Chineke/Abasi/Uban'giji/Oghene (GOD) was bringing forth creation. ORUNMILLA*more slave names to be added to the list

One question for you: mention one physical tangible thing Orunmilla invented

FRESHG:
HE WAS ACTUALLY TRYING TO REPLY THE MITIGATED SKEPTICS KNOWN AS SOPHISTS, WHO WERE OF THE VIEW THA “NOTHING CAN BE KNOWN”. ST AUGSTINE OF HIPPO, A MEDIEVAL AGE PHILOSOPHER WAS AMONG THE PHILOSOPHERS THAT COUNTERED THE SOPHISTS WITH HIS “SI FALLO ERGO SUM DICTUM”. DESCARTES WAS TRYING TO LAY A VERY SOLID FOUNDATION WHERE SCIENCE WOULD THRIVE WITH HIS DICTUM AT THE END OF 18th CENTURY.

Fine. Doesn’t change the fact his statement was a fakacy

killsmith:
The Bible is allegorical.


Christ is not a person.

Christ is an embodiment of the ideal human....

Christ is a state of mind.

Christians don't know this because they only accept what comes out of the mouth of a pastor.

Whoever invented Christ must be a genius of highest order and also a greatest philosopher. He also must have some deity-like powers to have people willing to die for something he invented for over 2000 years now

idid:
Honestly, we have to start demarcating knowledge and only then can we start appreciating philosophy. I would have loved to hear something like: The Greatest Western Philosopher.. it

Can u tell us one thought Orimila atculated?

Bahddo:
Why is Socrates not on your list?

The greatest is one of the trio - Socrates, Plato, Aristotle.

Lie. The answer is Okafor.
None of them could have come up with Okafor’s law

RiyaGoddess:
Oh I see. Such cannot happen because Awo oki n da Awo

Awo oki n da Awo to u too.
(I suspect it means “your head no correct” )

hopefulLandlord:
you're saying islam must true because people have been dying for it for almost 2000 years now

No. The fellow said Jesus never existed.
Likewise, if u r saying Mohammed never existed, whoever invented Mohammed must ba a genius with special powers

RiyaGoddess:
I don't understand

If u tell me baba said he will kill Atiku tomorrow and Atiku actually dies tomorrow - that’s the only thing that will shock me

DeeMain:
True. There are diabolic powers. There is also the power of God.

The spiritual is a realm. Anybody can access this realm to gain some form of advantage in life.

Problem is the diabolic path has grave repercussions and consequences.

Just curious as to your dad's response to your question

My sense is that those powers have very limited effect on our world otherwise presidents and such can’t survive. Also things like banking, sports, lottery will not be possible

RiyaGoddess:
This grammer is too much for me to understand ooo. See as I pop eyeball to read and understand all what you wrote. I saw magic, demon and juju.

What is the difference between Juju and Magic?
They are the same na. Na demons abi spirit still they run them? I don't want to spill some shocking things here especially when it comes to magic abi juju. I you remember, I earlier said I am not aware of all these university cults but only aware of these money ritual cults, ogboni, witchcraft, emere and co. These things no be science ooo. They are supernatural ma je ki si oyinbo so jare

The only thing u can reveal that can shock me is tell me baba will kill, say, Atiku tomorrow. Everything else na wash. Common sense will tell u these things can’t be as Nigerians think otherwise people with many enemies (like Trump) can’t stay alive. Do u realize entire countries want US presidents dead. Yet they rarely get sick. The only way they get killed is with a GUN. That’s why your dad couldn’t answer your question.

RiyaGoddess:
This grammer is too much for me to understand ooo. See as I pop eyeball to read and understand all what you wrote. I saw magic, demon and juju.

What is the difference between Juju and Magic?
They are the same na. Na demons abi spirit still they run them? I don't want to spill some shocking things here especially when it comes to magic abi juju. I you remember, I earlier said I am not aware of all these university cults but only aware of these money ritual cults, ogboni, witchcraft, emere and co. These things no be science ooo. They are supernatural ma je ki si oyinbo so jare

Here is definition of magic trick:

magic-trick.
Noun. (plural magic tricks) A remarkable act carried out purportedly by magical means but actually by trickery or illusion.

RiyaGoddess:
My dear, there is Juju. Confirm Juju Coming from a home where idol is being worshipped and adore yet we are Muslims. I'm not supposed to say this here but some things I read online especially on this forum makes me shake my head and sometimes pushes me to talk.
I once asked my dad why they aren't using their juju to heal the nation or even remove kill whoever they don't want on the throne but the answer I got shocked me. Just pray not be a victim of one. See let me not derail before some people will come for my head.

My sister u r not derailing anything. Don’t mind those dummies.
There are magic tricks that you’d swear can’t be possible without involvement of demons. Yet they are only TRICKS - nothing supernatural involved. Also there are various herbs that have various effects. But it is SCIENCE - nothing supernatural.
Having said that, my own belief is that maybe .001% of what Nigerians call juju is real. The rest are tricks, science, and coincidences.
(I saw a YouTube video where a village juju man turned a boy to bird and back. The villagers were going crazy. How are they to know they witnessed a magic trick)

hopefulLandlord:
I didn't know when jihadists disappeared but would you be so kind to tell me when they did?

So r u saying that Mohammed also never existed?

RiyaGoddess:
Wetin I sabi?
Let me ask, there is a case we are handling now, this person finds it sleeping at night as in he screams out of his sleep, He claims to see what we can't see and he shouts and runs fast to grip someone for help etc Is that one Psychological too

Of course things exist that we have no idea exist. I even suspect some things may exist for some people and not exist for others. So ANYTHING is possible in this universe. Still that should not stop us from applying our God-given reasoning to things. Eg, If u tell me juju can make u invisible I’d ask why didn’t u help our girls beat France!

Neddstark:
I dont know where you are now. But if you're within the shores of Nigeria, search for answers on your spiritual juju doubts. As in search diligently, you will find the truth. Just like saying the Bermuda triangle doesnt exist when you have not been to South America.

I’m in Ojuelegba. I didn’t say juju doesn’t exist. Anything can exist. I only applied some thinking to some specific claims. Why must we suspend our common sense when juju is mentioned. Eg, if juju can make a Nigerian invisible we’d win all football matches - we’d have more than eleven players on the field. That’s logical reasoning. Refute it with equally logical reasoning

hopefulLandlord:
people won't die for what they know to be "a lie" but history is littered with several instances of people suffering and/or dying for beliefs which turned out to be false, deceptive, poorly understood etc

examples are the jihadists but maybe that's a low hanging fruit or is overused so let's use other examples of people dying for what we now know to be a lie

German soldiers suffered and died during World War 2 because of the belief that they were the "master race" and its right to conquer other (inferior race) nations for more lands

39 members of heavensgate committed suicide thinking a comet would take them to their holy bliss in 1997

76 humans died in Texas cuz they believed that David Koresh was a true prophet of god

over 900 people killed themselves because they believed Jim Jones

The Japanese committed suicide rather than be captured cuz they believed they'll be tortured heavily by the Americans

amongst many other instances of people dying for what we know are lies, people kill themselves everyday for what they "know its true" even though its totally not true

But can’t u see how those things disappeared - one time occurrences. If any of them lasted 2000 years and people still willing to die for them today, I’d believe it. And so should u

Respect55:
He never had because he believed philosophy should be learned and not studied. One should have all the tenets by heart and not carry books. He taught aptly without books. He is the greatest!

Socrates was not great. Here is his philosophy. Compare it with that of Lord Jesus:

The Cyrenaics were an offshoot of the teachings of Socrates. The group was founded somewhere around 400 B.C. by one of Socrates’s students, a North African man named Aristippus.
They taught that the only real goal in life should be pleasure in the present, that people should do what makes them happiest in the moment instead of planning for a future that, in the end, is always unknowable and uncertain. Physical pleasures were of the utmost importance, and all measures should be taken to maximize the amount of pleasure a person takes in the moment. The view was a very self-centered one, stating that a person’s own pleasure should take priority over the pleasure and overall goodness of the community, city, or populace.There is a blatant disregard for not only the well-being of others in their philosophy but also for traditions and social norms. Aristippus taught that there was nothing inherently wrong with taboos like incest, it was only social convention that made it wrong. The true meaning of life is to ignore the restraints of social convention and do what is most pleasurable to you.

aadoiza:
Brainwashed African mofos everywhere. So great african philosopher.

Didn’t u see where I mentioned Okafor as the greatest?
Came up with Okafor’s law

Respect55:
Socrates isn't up there?
Are u kidding me?
What of Rene Descartes?
Ludwig Wittgenstein ahead of David Hume.
I'm not impressed with ur compilation.
I studied philosophy.

Rene Descartes made a fallacy: “ I think, thereforeI am”

CosmicPhoenix:

jesus christ never existed

Whoever made him up was not only a genius, he must have had special powers to have made people willing to die for something he made up

fedrick901:
Who are the greatest philosophers Of all Time? let us discuss

Greatest philosopher? Easy. Okafor - came up with Okafor’s law

Neddstark:
Some are true. Some are conspiracy theorsts. Was surprised he even stated E-money and Wizkid as satan's agents. As a matured person, even when I go to church, I listen to pastor's preach with a pinch of salt. I sieve out the truth because many opinions are very falsified.

Like which ones are true? And all this juju stuff, we really don’t think - if baba can make u bulletproof he can also make u punch-proof. So u become the heavyweight champion making millions. Same applies in all sports. Another question: why don’t murdered people come back as spirits and kill their murderer.
We hardly think.

PoliteActivist:
I finally read the thread.
My verdict: He believes everything on YouTube with no proof.
I think his father dabbled in the occult and that has him under all sorts of attack. I've known people like that. They usually run from church to church.

Not only that, he also knows people can turn into wind and all sorts of animals - he had seen it with his own eyes!

Naija DPO = Mega CORRUPTION

budaatum:
I don't know about this. Surely, if there is a God, that God must discriminate, or what God have you heard showers blessings on non-worshippers?

Those who work not, starve. Surely?

Then how do u account for non-worshippers who are doing very well - or worshippers suffering.

God does whatever he wants to do as He sees fit.
He is the one with ultimate wisdom not u - He sees the whole picture.

(BTW how does it benefit God that u r worshipping Him? Seems to me it benefits u.)

You folks are funny.
God does whatever he wants to do as He sees fit.
He is the one with ultimate wisdom not u - He sees the whole picture. He knew everything in advance - He didn’t need an agreement with Abram.

YouTube is full of these

Poor guy.

If u wish to know how cults perform their initiation, down to the last detail, check out this thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/5207293/story-cult-phase-included#78702949

saynotocultism:
Sorry guys............


We sat down drinking Kokoma thinking our cult group is the strongest on campus and nationwide . Whenever we hear scores of aiyesss loosing HITs in other institutions, we became angry and we immediately call the axxxe head of that particular T to know what the problem and what he lacked .

US: kpowai wetin dey sup for ur T? We dey hear scores, why you no fit deliver Na ?
Axxe head ( kpowai ) : una go mercy me oooo, 4 no dey the back ground and dem run enter us unexpected ooo
US: so make we control Squad come run the HIT? Your eye don fit map out where dem base ?
Axxe head : I go appreciate if squad fit put face , a cry for one , is a cry for all.

We then send squad to that particular institution and deliver . Whenever we drop a member of another cult group, we echo out .

Ayeeeee axxxeeee mennn

So people around will know we carried out the operation . There was a particular HIT that’s left my friends beheaded by members of the SEC. A particular Sunday morning, my girl friend woke up and prepared for mass . I stayed at a place called monkey joint in abraka . She woke up very early in the morning for 6am mass. She left home for mass and kissed me on the bed . 3 mins later, she dashed in saying her phone and her bag was collected my three guys. I rushed out with my 1 ( cutlass ) and I saw other girls running towards my direction. I saw a friend also called biggy, he just got initiated into the black axxxe and was running towards me,

Biggy: egede , some kind men just obtain us for front of burrow pit, them collect my cry ( phone ). Them metche( cut ) me join self .
Me: Na them metche you for hand like this ?
Biggy: yes oooo

I immediately echoed out

Ayyyeeeee axxxxeeee men , make all men fall out......

Axxxeee men rushed out with cutlasses and guns and we set out to chase those men, we chased them and two of them escaped , we where able to chase one into a burrow Pit at monkey joint and when we got to him, he was begging . I asked of the phones they collected , he said they where with the other members of his gang that escaped . Immediately one of the axxe men present recognized him as an eiyeee member .

So you be Elebe wey one come collect for where Sm ( strong men ) dey....

We immediately removed his hands with the cutlass and left him bleeding inside the burrow pit.

Their ibaka heard of what we did and pronounced war on aiyessssssss....


TBC......

Op, so how do u wash away all this blood from u?

PoliteActivist:
I finally read the thread.
My verdict: He believes everything on YouTube with no proof.
I think his father dabbled in the occult and that has him under all sorts of attack. I've known people like that. They usually run from church to church.

I agree. These things are generational. But then so are all sorts of mental illnesses - they run in families. Is it possible all we are dealing with is genetics