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lexy2014:
Great. So d situation in turkey has changed still leaving us with Syria and Yemen. D reason I mentioned Iraq is that Iraq has exactly d same weather with Iran and if it was just strictly an issue of weather, then iraq won't have just 214 cases.

In answer to ur "one hot, humid and relatively poor country", pls answer d following questions. If u are able to, then u will see if there is a need for that:

"Is a/c a public infrastructure in Australia? Are people cocooned inside a/c even while they walk on d streets that prevents them from accessing sunlight?

Are all Nigerians and Africans so poor that they can't afford a/c? Are u saying that africa is so poor that no one in africa uses a/c? D ones that can afford a/c or have access to it, why have they all not been infected since a/c makes people susceptible to corona virus?

Except u are saying Australias sun doesn't have vitamin D, u successfully negated ur own theory by urself."

I just realized it is same guy.
Well I already answered your (pardon me) infantile questions.

It is not “strictly issue of weather”. I already told u many things affect a country’s corona profile.

For your info Iraq does not have same weather as Iran and Australia does not have similar weather as Nigeria!!

lexy2014:
It's frustrating to u because u can't answer d simple questions I asked. And u that if u answer them, ur argument comes to an end. I don't see why u are uncomfortable with me mentioning Australia. Doesn't it fit d bill or does it threaten ur argument?

U are only regurgitating d issue of weather which I am not contesting. What I am pointing out to u is ur inconsistency and d fact that u have negated urself. So all this embellishments u are adding about what one person said about temperature vis-à-vis corona isn't catching my fancy. U are just avoiding answering simple questions.

How can u say "THE AC HAS TO BE ALL OVER"? How possible or practical is that? U are still entangling urself with ur statements about AC just in an attempt not to answer d questions I asked:

Is a/c a public infrastructure in Australia? Are people cocooned inside a/c even while they walk on d streets that prevents them from accessing sunlight?

Are all Nigerians and Africans so poor that they can't afford a/c? Are u saying that africa is so poor that no one in africa uses a/c? D ones that can afford a/c or have access to it, why have they all not been infected since a/c makes people susceptible to corona virus?

Except u are saying Australias sun doesn't have vitamin D, u successfully negated ur own theory by urself.

R u ok sir? Really.
With due respect your questions are infantile sir

What has AC got to do with sunlight??!! That’s why I said u r mixed up.
I’ve already told u each of these things is a part of a whole.

Australia has SOME of those things that is why it is not a hot zone. If this happened during Australian winter it would have been a corona hot zone. GUARANTEED!
Because it has high traffic with China!

Here, let me answer your infantile questions (answers of which should be obvious):
1) If u have ENOUGH AC it affects general transmission of corona. It has nothing to do with wether u get enough sun or not!!
2) Nigerians have some AC but due to relative poverty and epileptic power they don’t have enough of it and strong enough to much affect general transmission of corona. But what a stupid question. Having AC does not mean u automatically get corona! Whew!
3)Every country has sun including Australia. Getting enough sun boosts your immune system thus generally lowering your susceptibility to corona. But that doesn’t mean an individual who gets enough sun will automatically not catch corona! I can’t believe I’m actually answering these - things that should be obvious!

Here’s the entire article:

6 surprising things that might hurt your immune system

1. Too much exercise
But isn’t exercise meant to strengthen your immune system? Indeed, yes, but strenuous activity can take its toll on your body and immune system. When you are training for an endurance event such as a marathon, your body takes the strain as it constantly has to recover from long hours on the road and in the gym.

2. Loneliness and isolation
This might be the time of year when work is particularly demanding. You rush between the office and your house, and you barely go out or make time for friends. But, even though you might be avoiding some germs, loneliness and the lack of a social life can wreak havoc on your immune system.

3. A pessimistic outlook on life
Working hard, eating healthy, exercising, and hitting the sack early can unfortunately be of little value when you are taking life too seriously, research suggests. To counteract the many stressors in our daily lives, it’s important to find joy in the simple things, as a healthy outlook will help keep your immune system in shape.

4. Second-hand smoke
If you don’t smoke, or you recently managed to quit, it’s good. But unfortunately, mingling with friends and family members who smoke around you can damage your immune system. Research has shown that exposure to second-hand smoke (SHS) kills an estimated 600 000 people each year and increases one’s risk of acute respiratory infections and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD). The immune system is also impacted, but exactly how that works remains a mystery.

5. Regular doses of antibiotics
Running to the doctor and insisting on antibiotics for the slightest infection can compromise even the healthiest immune system. A recent study conducted by researchers at Harvard, MIT, the Wyss Institute for Biologically Inspired Engineering and the Broad Institute, found that antibiotics can actually work against the body and impair the way the immune system wards of germs.

6.Alcohol
Even one bout of excessive drinking can reduce the immune system’s response to invading pathogens, Spangler says. “Alcohol’s major metabolite, acetaldehyde, likely impairs ciliary function in the lungs, making them more prone to bacterial and viral invasion,” he explains. Alcohol also impairs the process of attacking and breaking down bacteria and viruses, he says, and that puts people who abuse alcohol at higher risk for infection.

MrBachelor:
According to medical experts you are better off without the mask. The mask should only be worn if you are infected so as to avoid onward transmission of the virus.

So why are ALL of China and Italy wearing it including healthcare workers?? Something doesn’t add up

Nice.
But u forgot this:

https://www.nairaland.com/5743888/masturbate-during-coronavirus-lockdown-boost

CoronaVirusRelo:
Get my point clear. All this are still speculations.

Temperatures are rising in Texas and California and count is not dropping. Until an official statement is out, I won't believe all this speculations flooding the internet.

People are researching actively and yet to arrive at conclusions, and some people already decimating fabricated conclusions.

In times like this, you must stay glued to official sources. Look at those already abusing Chloroquine in Nigeria. It's a result of false info. It was a trial while some proclaimed it as a cure.

Nothing I listed is speculation. They are SCIENTIFIC FACTS that took enormous amounts of time and money to arrive at

sapientia:
My major concern is finding the cure.

Africa have no healthcare system.

Bingo!
Despite Ebola experience sub-Sahara Africa is totally unprepared for any infectious disease epidemic

CoronaVirusRelo:
Your map is right, but your earlier conclusions are unofficial. I understand that many informations are being decimated on the internet, one must be careful of which you are buying.

Sun, Vitamin D and all you listed are all speculations like those saying 5G network is the cause.

Mention ONE warm, humid, relatively poor country where corona has succeeded and we’ll throw all the science away.
See below

FAKE NEWS
see below

CoronaVirusRelo:
Where did you get this conclusions from?

Their is nothing have not read on Nairaland.

Some even said on this forum that 5G network is the cause.

Your list is void. Texas and California has been hit. Is it the cold weather too

Sigh ..

Vitamin D

See the map below. Read carefully the fine print about California and Texas.
True Corona hot spots are New York and Washington state
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Nicholls, said there were three things coronavirus does not like — sunlight, temperature and humidity.

“Sunlight will cut the virus’s ability to grow in half, so the half-life will be 2.5 minutes, and in the dark it’s about 13 to 20 minutes. Sunlight is really good at killing viruses,” Nicholls said.

His view is corroborated by a virologist at Germany’s Centre for Experimental and Clinical Infection Research, Thomas Pietschmann.

Pietschmann said the coronavirus is “not very heat-resistant, which means that the virus quickly breaks down when temperatures rise.”

CoronaVirusRelo:
Now you shifting the bar that it's our weather.

Give honor to whom honour is due.

U missed the rest of my post below:

It is entirely circumstancial. Despite Ebola, sub-Saharan Africa is totally unprepared for this pandemic. Thank our weather and hot sun and maybe even malaria, otherwise half of Nigeria would have been dead by now

Here are some FACTS not opinion.

* vitamin D from hot sun is immune-boosting
*corona does not thrive in heat and humidity
*sunlight breaks down corona
*cold weather suppresses the immune system
*Relatively poor countries have limited AC.
The more people congregate indoors in AC the more corona can spread than if they were forced outdoors by heat or congregate indoors without AC.
The AC has to be all over as in rich countries. All day u can walk from your AC car into AC buildings never experiencing heat!

These things work together to give protection. Just one (say, sun) does not automatically immune u to corona!

CoronaVirusRelo:
Africa's response has been tremendous. In the last 2 weeks, what's the number of casualties. Relate to that of far advanced countries like the UK, France, Italy and the US.

You must give it to them. You can't deny them that kudos.

It is entirely circumstancial. Despite the Ebola experience, sub-Saharan Africa is totally unprepared for this pandemic. Thank our weather and hot sun and maybe even malaria, otherwise half of Nigeria would have been dead by now

Here are some FACTS not opinion.

* vitamin D from hot sun is immune-boosting
*corona does not thrive in heat and humidity
*sunlight breaks down corona
*cold weather suppresses the immune system
*Relatively poor countries have limited AC.
The more people congregate indoors in AC the more corona can spread than if they were forced outdoors by heat or congregate indoors without AC.
The AC has to be all over as in rich countries.
These things work together to give protection. Just one (say, sun alone) does not automatically immune u to corona!

U r trying to say Igbo ama...
Adedivoh 2nd
(highest honor that can be bestowed on a physician)!

CoronaVirusRelo:
Americans and Europeans underated what they clearly saw coming.

Africans too, Africans especially.
How many ventilators does Nigeria have??

lexy2014:
Am glad u mentioned Iran. Iran's high numbers aren't necessarily down to d weather but to poor management & lack of access to kits that will aid treatment. U will also note that virtually all index cases in other middle eastern countries can be traced to Iran. If it was just a weather issue, then Iraq would have d same numbers as Iran. Also take note that Syria & turkey don't have any case of corona to d best of my knowledge & their weather is cooler than that of Iran

Well the best of your knowledge is wrong.
As of yesterday Turkey has 670 cases with 9 deaths
Iraq, 214 with 17 deaths
Syria has no test kits

There are many things that contribute to corona profile not just temperature.
Turkey has a tradition of rubbing cologne b4 going out. It serves as a disinfectant.
Iraq winter are rainy (humid) and only in the mountains
Syria temperature is not cold.

All u have to do is find ONE hot, humid and relatively poor country where corona succeeded and we will throw all the science away

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lexy2014:
Earlier, u had said that d weather in Africa was responsible 4d low covid19 infection rate in Nigeria. And I responded that it might not just be down to weather. I stated that it might be due to inbuilt immunity which we had acquired over time due to our exposure to d symptoms of corona like catarrh, cough and sore throat.

But u then retorted that our exposure to vitamin D which is gotten from sunlight was what is responsible for that immunity.

I then informed u that if getting vitamin D from d sun was d reason for our immunity, then Australia wouldn't have recorded 7 deaths from more than 1000 cases.

U then changed ur story & came up with d a/c theory that it is because Africans are poor& that we don't use a/c but that Australians are rich and that they use a/c that's why they have corona & we don't.

Is a/c a public infrastructure in Australia? Are people cocooned inside a/c even while they walk on d streets that prevents them from accessing sunlight?

Are all Nigerians and Africans so poor that they can't afford a/c? Are u saying that africa is so poor that no one in africa uses a/c? D ones that can afford a/c or have access to it, why have they all not been infected since a/c makes people susceptible to corona virus?

Except u are saying Australias sun doesn't have vitamin D, u successfully negated ur own theory by urself.

FYI, Australian weather is very similar to Africas

My brother discussing this with u is frustrating because I assume u know certain things which it then turns out u don’t. THESE THINGS WORK TOGETHER! Getting sun alone does not immune u to corona!!

You keep isolating Australia when there are 200 countries in the world. Many things contribute to corona. There is high traffic between Australia and China. See below.
Also Australia has about 1000 cases TOTAL while 627 Italians DIED of corona just yesterday alone!
Once again Australia is not a hot spot for corona. Why do u think that is?

Certain things are FACTS not opinion. Everything I have given u is a FACT not my opinion.
* vitamin D from hot sun is immune-boosting
*corona does not thrive in heat and humidity
*sunlight breaks down corona
*cold weather suppresses the immune system
*The more people congregate indoors in AC the more corona can spread than if they were forced outdoors by heat or congregate indoors without AC.
THE AC HAS TO BE ALL OVER. All day u can walk from your AC car into AC buildings never experiencing heat!

These things work together to give u protection. Just one (sun) does not automatically immune u to corona!
———————-
Nicholls, said there were three things coronavirus does not like — sunlight, temperature and humidity.

“Sunlight will cut the virus’s ability to grow in half, so the half-life will be 2.5 minutes, and in the dark it’s about 13 to 20 minutes. Sunlight is really good at killing viruses,” Nicholls said.

His view is corroborated by a virologist at Germany’s Centre for Experimental and Clinical Infection Research, Thomas Pietschmann.

Pietschmann said the coronavirus is “not very heat-resistant, which means that the virus quickly breaks down when temperatures rise.”

lexy2014:
And I never disputed ur weather theory. I only said it is not as straightforward as u put it. I clearly don't see what d confusion is about except u are d one who is confused& maybe u feel ur ego has been bruised.

Whether a/c in Australia or Dubai is strong or not, d a/c theory is null& void. Is a/c a public infrastructure that is used on d streets? Is it used in beaches or at Australian open tennis events? So at one point or d other, these folks are exposed to d sun. I don't even see why u are trying to make d distinction between tropical and subtropical. Does d vitamin d from d sun in tropical defer from d vitamin D in subtropical?

Again, ur theory that Africans are poor paints a picture of people who have never used a/c or who don't no what it is. If that isnt s case, that means that all those who use a/c on a daily basis should be down with corona. What is confusing u about that?

I mean no insult but u sound so mixed-up I don’t know where to start. Let me try.

1) AC.
Where would corona patients be? Hospital. It is easier to spread corona if the hospital were cold than if it were warm. Same applies to other places where many people gather. I hope that has resolved that. BTW let me confess that is from scientists not me.

2) There are three conditions that have to be present
a) warm b) humid c) relatively poor

3) Now is summer in Australia, which is very likely why it is NOT one of the hot spots

4) If Australia had numbers like Iran or Italy you’d have a point. But they have practically no corona compared to those people, likewise other warm/hot places.

5) Find a corona hot spot that is warm and humid otherwise stop making baseless argument

Jakumo:
CanadaMon I raise a toast to ya brother.

Your's is a calm, reassuring voice amid the raging tempest, barely heard above the deafening roar of blind panic that can infest the mind of even the most rational and objective human being in times like this.

Despite fleeting moments of nagging doubt regarding the efficacy of tropical heat and humidity as virus transmission suppressors, I agree with the basic premise that you have enunciated so eloquently in several previous posts, namely that due in large part to that tropical heat, there will ultimately be comparatively fewer in-country Corona virus infections within West Africa, in conjunction with statistically fewer mortality rates among those that import their infection into West Africa from the current hot zones in Europe.

Today the world finally saw the fabled "Italian Man" who FIRST introduced Nigeria to the Corona Virus, posing for a group photograph with the Nigerian medical personnel that saved his life and set him on the road to a full recovery. Must confess that I did get a little misty-eyed looking at those pictures, since they beautifully highlighted the impeccable professionalism of the Nigerian medical crew, while also hinting that a significant degradation of virulent potency may well indeed, be attributed to West Africa's current heat wave.

Contemplating the undercurrent of welling panic and grim resignation that infuses so many online opinions, one wonders how many people, on witnessing the conveyor-belt removal of body-bags from residential neighborhoods via television footage beamed over time zones from the hot zones, wind up losing their marbles and committing suicide by their own hand even before the contagion starts to claim geographically close victims .

Oddly enough it was the earlier Ebola epidemic that just about rendered me catatonic with fear, thanks to copious media coverage and its point of origin in the Congo's tropical heat, yet today in 2020, despite the horrifying death toll reported in Italy and Iran from the new Corona virus, I sleep peacefully each night, while remaining cautiously and guardedly optimistic about the odds of surviving the current storm relatively unscathed, over much of the West African sub-region.

Thanks bro.
I saw this post:

If you randomly pick 100 people infected with coronavirus, LESS THAN 2 will die. And that <2 persons are probably OVER the age of 60 or have a pre-existing medical condition (someone whose immune system is already weakened by another illness).

Here’s where it gets interesting: 96% of those affected just test positive and recover on their own. 80% never have any symptoms and 98% of those who test
positive fully recover.
Not only that, those 2 people will probably not have the benefit of immune-boosting vitamin D from our hot sun, nor the corona-weakening benefit of our hot humid weather!

DonTattaglia:
So why didn't they use it to treat cases that eventually died as a result of the corona virus infection..

That it adversely affects corona does not make it a cure
- it simply means it can improve your chances of surviving

lexy2014:
Earlier, u had said that d weather in Africa was responsible 4d low covid19 infection rate in Nigeria. And I responded that it might not just be down to weather. I stated that it might be due to inbuilt immunity which we had acquired over time due to our exposure to d symptoms of corona like catarrh, cough and sore throat.

But u then retorted that our exposure to vitamin D which is gotten from sunlight was what is responsible for that immunity.

I then informed u that if getting vitamin D from d sun was d reason for our immunity, then Australia wouldn't have recorded 7 deaths from more than 1000 cases.

U then changed ur story & came up with d a/c theory that it is because Africans are poor& that we don't use a/c but that Australians are rich and that they use a/c that's why they have corona & we don't.

Is a/c a public infrastructure in Australia? Are people cocooned inside a/c even while they walk on d streets that prevents them from accessing sunlight?

Are all Nigerians and Africans so poor that they can't afford a/c? Are u saying that africa is so poor that no one in africa uses a/c? D ones that can afford a/c or have access to it, why have they all not been infected since a/c makes people susceptible to corona virus?

Except u are saying Australias sun doesn't have vitamin D, u successfully negated ur own theory by urself.

FYI, Australian weather is very similar to Africas

You don’t realise how confused u sound. Remember this is SCIENCE supported by OBSERVED EVIDENCE. It is not my opinion or I change my story. It is right there for u to see. (See screenshot below). I never discounted your immunity theory. They are all part of it.
The weather I described is tropical weather. Australia is sub-tropical.
As for AC, walk into a public hospital in Australia or Dubai then compare to 9ja - strong AC in public and private places all over, that’s what’s meant.
Also remember Australia is NOT one of the hot spots of corona - Italy just had 627 corona deaths in ONE day!

lexy2014:
Then that automatically knocks out& negates ur theory on vitamin D as acquired from exposure to d sun. Going by ur a/c theory, it means those who enjoy a/c in nigeria should be down with corona by now.



Australians are also exposed to sun touching them. Based on d above, then they shouldn't be having corona virus

How does it knock out vitamin D theory?? The AC has to be pervasive and strong which only RICH countries can afford.
This stuff is supported by both scientific and anecdotal evidence. Scientifically, Corona does not do well in warm humid climate and breaks down under sunlight.
Anecdotally u can’t mention any warm, humid, relatively poor country where corona has succeeded

Heineken:
CanadaOrBust my boss morning sir. I sent a pm

Morning bros. Hope all’s well. Sorry, long lost access to my email. Take care

ybalogs:
What will now happen to Bolaji's wedding on 4th now at Shomolu?

Exactly what I’m wondering too

dfrost:
Must you quote everyone? I wasn't even responding to you. Are you that jobless?

Even if you have loads of time with you, can't you use it to sleep, read or just soak your hands in water?

Lol. U didn’t have to mention me in your post. U mentioned me specifically because u wanted a rise from me. U r a hypocrite sir.

ernieboy:
don't mind that guy, fda did not debunks Trump's assertion, they only said it is not approved yet, meaning it still has to go through rigorous tests before approval.

Here’s what actually happened:
Trump announced that based on anecdotal evidence FDA had agreed to approve chloroquine for TRIALS on patients “immediately”.
That is something FDA would normally never do - they rely on solid science not anecdotal evidence.
FDA then came out to clarify they did not approve chloroquine for use against corona as some people misunderstood (otherwise doctors would start prescribing it)

yemex04:
At what point did Israel close it borders? Was it immediately after the first case?? How many people are infected Isreal as we speak..
Closing the borders also have very destructive impact just like the Corona virus itself

First accept you’ve been caught in a lie. Here’s what u wrote verbatim: ..Isreal boader are still opened..
Destructive impact? So now we’ve closed the border has the world ended?? Closing schools, churches, sports, gatherings is not destructive?!

dfrost:
I thought I was the only one that noticed. Very annoying.

The truth is usually very annoying to people who get emotionally attached to a person or view instead of following where the evidence leads

Okoroawusa:
Trump asslicker

More like a truth teller. I follow where the evidence leads not emotional hatred for Buhari or Trump like u

OgunLaakaye:
Why are you contradicting yourself. Do you know what goes when you say "Approved for trials" and "Approved cure".

Did Trump tell you it's working in the US presently with figures rising?

Trust me, you are the only one that know what you know and broadcasting it on Nairaland.

Chloroquine cures Corona and numbers still rising every minute.

Please write a letter to World Health Organization that you already have the cure.

Calm down and learn. U don’t know what u r saying.
There is anecdotal evidence that chloroquine has adverse effect on corona. No one said anything about cure. Trump announced that based on that FDA has agreed to approve it for trials on patients “immediately”. That is something FDA would normally never do - they rely on solid science not anecdotal evidence.
R u now beginning to get it?

Esji80:
When did Trump stated that ? you mean you just heard of Chloroquines effect on the virus?

China stated it first before any country

Abeg stop they worship Trump

So why did NAFDAC act only after Trump’s speech if it was so well known.
Why did Nigrrians start buying chloroquine only after Trump’s speech if it was so well know.
Besides u r not fooling anybody - we all know u didn’t know b4 Trump spelt it out. Probably ran out to buy chloroquine and it was all sold out

shogz89:
how did the Chinese hide it. Even your YouTube video is showing CGTN which is a Chinese news network that is all over Nigeria satellite stations.. The chloroquine news has been in the news long before trump said it.. That you don't know is nobody's fault.

So why did NAFDAC act only after Trump’s speech if it was so well known.
More importantly why r u attacking Trump if u know he was only saying what Chinese already confirmed - that chloroquine has adverse effect on corona?!

alezzy13:
I really don't know why mods have not banned this Canadaorbust character yet. His type are the ones spreading false information all over the place.

Maybe because my “false information” are backed up by cool SCIENTIFIC evidence or historical documentation instead of based on emotion out of hatred for Buhari or Trump like you. See below how the guy called me “the first sensible person in this country” (ok maybe that’s overstating it a bit )