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When will Nigerians and blacks as a race wake from their slumber. Truly in the words of a former african leader "the black colour is beclouding our brains". May God almighty deliver us.when will you wake from your self hating imbecilic slumber have you even read any of the above threads or undertaken any research in this area let me say it slowly so that you can understand this time - HIV AIDS WAS INTRODUCED INTO AFRICA BY WAY OF MASS VACCINATIONS/INNOCULATIONS CARRIED OUT BY WORLD HEALTH ORGANISATION OFFICIALS IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT A RACIST POLICY OF DEPOPULATION OF THE AFRICAN CONTINENT (Nigeria is specifically mentioned in Kissinger's memorandum NSSM 200 as one of the target countries with high population) IN ORDER TO REDUCE THE THREAT OF ANY FUTURE RESISTANCE TO THE ECONOMIC PLUNDER AND PILLAGE OF OUR NATURAL RESOURCES - WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE THEY ARE COMMITTING GENOCIDE AGAINST OUR OWN PEOPLE AND YOU SIT THERE TALKING CRAP ABOUT "the black colour is beclouding our brains" - no, your "brain" is totally submerged in ignorance - even whites have gone on record to admit that this was a covert method of legalised genocide against africans so why is this not getting through to you!! jesus please go and do some research and stop with the stupidity http://euroyank..com/2007/07/biowar-depopulation-plans-of-criminal.html |
In 1969, Fort Detrick told world scientists and the Pentagon asked for more money, they knew they could make AIDS. Nixon’s July 18 secret memo to Congress on “Overpopulation” serves as the start of the paper trail of the AIDS Holocaust.this seems to tally up with the following: 1969: On June 9, 1969, Dr. D.M. McArtor, then Deputy Director of Research and Technology for the Department of Defense, appeared before the House Subcommittee on Appropriations to request funding for a project to produce a synthetic biological agent for which humans have not yet acquired a natural immunity. Dr. McArtor asked for $10 million dollars to produce this agent over the next 5-10 years. The Congressional Record reveals that according to the plan for the development of this germ agent, the most important characteristic of the new disease would be "that it might be refractory [resistant] to the immunological and therapeutic processes upon which we depend to maintain our relative freedom from infectious disease". AIDS first appeared as a public health risk ten years later, appearing first in a population of gay men who had been subjects in a test of a new Hepatitas vaccine. In 1989, work by Alan Cantwell Jr., M.D. linking AIDS to the hepatitis B viral vaccine experiments was suppressed at the 1989 AIDS International Conference by officials of the World Health Organization. and see this: 1970: Funding for the synthetic biological agent is obtained under H.R. 15090. The project, under the supervision of the CIA, is carried out by the Special Operations Division at Fort Detrick, the army's top secret biological weapons facility. Speculation is raised that molecular biology techniques are used to produce AIDS-like retroviruses. 1970: United States intensifies its development of "ethnic weapons" (Military Review, Nov., 1970), designed to selectively target and eliminate specific ethnic groups who are susceptible due to genetic differences and variations in DNA. 1972: President Nixon announced a ban on the production and use of biological (but not chemical) warfare agents. However, as the Army's own experts reveal, this ban is meaningless because the studies required to protect against biological warfare weapons are generally indistinguishable from those to develop the actual chemical weapons. Research on offensive bio-war continued under the justification that such research was a necessary pre-cursor to defensive bio-war. 1974: Less publicized was National Security Study memorandum 200. This document declared that overpopulation of the world posed a grave threat to the nation and urged the imposition of population control measures wherever possible. While the media have reported the forced sterilizations in China, Canada, and Sweden, the abuses of the sterilization programs here in the United States remain concealed from public view. A class action suit in Los Angeles revealed that Chicano women were being sterilized immediatly after giving birth. The non-English speaking women had been given sterilization consent forms in English and were told the operation was to deal with the after-affects of the pregnancy. Similar abuses were reported on reservations, with estimates of coerced or covert sterilization running as high as one woman out of every four. Yet another lawsuit in New York and a scandal in Puerto Rico led to the passage of laws requiring a standardized consent form printed in multiple languages in 1979. More can be found in, Michael Parenti. [book] "Democracy for the Few" (St. Martin's Press 1995) |
Ezekiel Emmanuel opposes euthanasia, which does not seem to conform with your arguments. Betsy McCaughey deliberately misrepresented the truth in this case. Such baseless arguments should not be put in place to malign people or to support argumentsEzekiel Emmanuel wrote an article in 1996 setting out how medical care should be rationed, favouring an approach which guaranteed medical care to people who were active and denying care to the elderly he used the example of an elderly person with dementia and stated that such a person would not be guaranteed to receive health care, yes he hasnt openly stated that he supports euthanasia but if you state that you will not guarantee treatment to a person over a certain age who is suffering from certain types of illnessess are you not implicitly favouring euthanasia? also emmanuel favours the use of "living wills" where (elderly) patients are counselled on making decisions that center around shortening their lives in order to save on govt expenditure. in january this year emmanuel went on the record to back a policy which favours giving priority to younger (active) people who are ill rather than older people, therefore to call that a baseless argument shows just how removed from reality people like you are - please at least do the research before you get on your high horse about things you know nothing about. Henry Kissinger was of Jewish descent and fleed the Nazi Germanyso?? i dont understand the significance of this statement - yes he fled persecution from nazi germany but he played an active part in rehabilitating thousands of nazi scientists in the US who were responsible for the genocide of jews - please read about the role he played in operation paperclip after the second world war - Kissinger is an ardent advocate of the genocide of non white people as set out in his memo NSSM 200 written in 1974 whilst he was national security adviser during the Nixon administration. |
When people come up with this sort of far fetched shit, it can be entertaining, but I remember watching some guys called heavens gate and having a laugh with the rest of my folk. They were going to be raptured by flying saucers hanging on the tail of a comet; then a couple of days later, they had all committed mass suicide.what on earth has the above got to do with the possibility of hiv aids being a manufactured disease in order to advance the depopulation of blacks. braindead dimwits like you who cant read and dont understand what is going on around them are usually the kind of people who end up in cults and religious sects, i have a feeling you are actually IN one. if all of this is way above your intellectual ability why dont you move over to the under fives discussion message board where the topics under discussion will be more in tune with your infantile mental ability its obvious from your responses that your brain is incapable of processing any of this as it is way too complicated for what you are normally used to. im done trying to reason with a cretin with an IQ of minus 500!!! |
.And is Obama as US president, now following Kissingers doctrine (evil eye and all) and frantically "depopulating" himself?i dont think you understand the issues - first of all Obama is a a frontman for a powerful elite who are the real power brokers, therefore he would be expected to follow their agenda which includes depopulation policies, this doesnt mean that he would be "depopulating himself" as you put it, it would simply mean that he would be expected to support and pass through any legislation aimed at promoting depopulation policies. Obama's current health care and policy adviser, a Dr Ezekiel Emmanuel is an ardent supporter of depopulation ideology or eugenics, Emmanuel beleives that health care should be rationed and provided to only those who can participate fully in society - which means that if you are elderly and suffering from dementia or young and disabled with learning difficulties you could be denied health care on the grounds that you are not able to fully participate in society. if you look at the intention behind this you could argue that these are attempts to introduce a gradual depopulation of american society by removing so called undesirables or people who are regarded as burdens on society. |
what i cant understand is why everyone is attacking no2atheism without refuting any of the information that he's posted, im inclined to beleive that boyd graves claim is possible because america has had and still retains a policy on population control or what was formerly known as eugenics or "race hygiene" whereby certain groups of people ie blacks, disabled/mentally retarded people and gay people were sterilised in order to reduce their nos as they were seen as inferior and a burden on society. this policy is still being praticsed today albeit under a different name (Planned Parenthood Federation) and by way of different tactics and is funded by some of the most powerful organisations and think tanks in america. i would direct those of you who think this is pure conspircay theory mumbo jumbo to have a look at the following thread: http://www.blackgenocide.org/negro02.html why is it so difficult to beleive that the whites would want to "depopulate" the black population, after all they have been doing it by funding wars which cause mass deaths, hunger and famine so why would the development of biological war fare to assist them in this respect be regarded as a step too far? Henry Kissinger former national security adviser to richard nixon in the 1970's was a well known advocate of population control of non white people and advocated the use of war, famine and disease as some of the more effective ways of depopulating the world of non white people he has been quoted as stating that "depopulation should be the highest priority of US foreign policy towards the third world". http://www.rense.com/general59/kissingereugenics.htm also Bill Gates Snr, George Bush snr and the powerful Rockefeller dynasty have spent billions of dollars on various eugenics programmes - so yes a manufactured disease designed to reduce the black popoulation - very possible. http://www.eugenics-watch.com/roots/chap12.html |
You've started a good thread. However, I don't think there is any replacement for Gani at the moment. I'm gradually losing faith in Nigerian youths. Selfishness and mediocrity is destroying the positive values that Nigerian youths are supposed to hold. Crass ignorance is another disease that is destroying the youths. Gani Fawehinmi was a maverick lawyer and human rights activist, and that was why he was a great man. He did things differently and had his own mind. He was a visionary who built structures that will outlive him. He started the Nigerian Weekly Law Reports and was a mentor to many young lawyers in the country. I'm sorry to say this, but most Nigerian youths do not have a mind of their own. They are mostly followers and are slow to change. During my service year, I came across a lot of corpers who did not have lofty ideals or strong personal principles. They had started to embezzle money from camp as Platoon leaders and deputies. Go through history and read about the men and women who changed the destinies of their countries. They were mostly mavericks and deep thinkers who saw the future beyond what obtained presently. Gani Fawehinmi fought for the masses because he was seeing light at the end of the tunnel. 97% of Nigerian youths are not visionaries. And that is a great problem on its own.totally agree with the above, it is up to us and no one else to overthrow this corrupt evil oligarchy, no emancipated group in the world has acheived freedom without loss of life, but do we have the stomach for death because that is the price that we are going to have to pay in order to rid ourselves of these demons, until all of us are ready to make that personal sacrifice i think that we will continue to live as an enslaved people in our own country. |
this is a terrible loss - he was a true leader and campaigner for the rights of the common man, i think it will be very difficult to find anyone to fill his shoes, a true man of the people and a fearless and courageous warrior. |
Well Zimbabwe I’m afraid isn’t unique and there are other countries against which we have targeted sanctions. I immediately think of Burma for example. But of course there are other countries in Africa where we have strong conditionality on the nature of our relationship with those countries. I’m sorry to say that there are very, very many people in many parts of the world that live under atrocious regimes. But you see Zimbabwe is a country which we all have enormous affection for and strong historical links with the country, that is why there’s great concern on the part of Europeans and others about what is happening in Zimbabwe.this is what is known as "double speak" the use of euphemisms, distortions and half truths when communicating with the public in order to mask the true meaning of what you actually mean leading the listener to misconstrue the true meaning of your words. what this individual is really saying in the above quote is: yes there are numerous dictatorships all over the world perpertrating crimes far worse than mugabe but those atrocities are perpetrated against NON WHITE people and therefore dont concern us. once in a while if our economic self interests are affected we may decide to impose limited sanctions as is the case with burma and other african regimes who refuse to put our economic self interests before the interests of their own people, however zimbabwe is a special case for us because our WHITE BROTHERS are in danger of loosing their economic dominance and control which we believe is their birth right, we consider the redistribution of land as an act of tyranny on the part of mugabe. Tyranny is fine as long as it is directed towards NON WHITE people however, it becomes a problem for the international community (the WHITE WORLD) when it affects our own. What happens in Zimbabwe affects what happens in South Africa and other parts of Southern Africa. We want to get Africa as a whole on the move and on the road to prosperity and proper democracy and in a way Zimbabwe is the litmus test for this. If we can get Zimbabwe moving in the right direction this will give great hope to so many others across Africa. And the first thing, and I’ve always said this, is that you need to have good governance, in other words the country needs to be properly run for the people and for their benefit not for the benefit of 203 people who happen to be keeping Mugabe in power. And of course the reason those people are so desperate to have these restrictive measures removed is not because they are concerned about the people of Zimbabwe, if they were concerned about them they’d have changed a long time ago. No they want to get on their aeroplanes with their wives, go on their shopping expeditions to Paris and London and all of these places, line their pockets – that’s what they want to do and that will be on the backs of the Zimbabwean people. We don’t think that’s right.this is what van ordern really means: if mugabe/zimbabwe is allowed to get away with taking the land away from our white brothers, this could trigger similar attempts to kick whites off stolen land in neighbouring south african countries which will sound the death knell for us. we therefore need to topple Mugabe in order to send out a clear message to the blacks in that region that we are still in control. if we can succeed in toppling Mugabe this will reassure our white brothers and sisters that they have nothing to fear and that we've still got the blacks under our control. i therefore beleive the need for us to have black puppets in control of countries that are important to us in order to safeguard our economic interests. we couldnt care less what mugabe does with the zimbabwean peoples revenue, after all our banks benefit financially from this arrangement and many other dictators who are our friends are guilty of doing the same however just to show how angry we are at him for not toeing the line we'll ban him from having access to this money. |
I always knew America was interfering in Haiti because Whites are still annoyed that blacks slaves in Haiti had the audacity to take control of the country out of the handsthats absolutely right - prior to emancipation haiti was the most prosperous colony in the western hemisphere, but as soon as the african slaves revolted (defeating their great Napolean and the British) emancipating themselves in 1804, they were isolated and economically blockaded by the west. i beleive this was done to serve as a lesson to other neighbouring carribean islands as to what would lay in store for them if they tried the same stunt. these evil former slave masters with their entrenched racism created an apartheid structure in the country with whites at the top, mullattoes in the middle and blacks at the bottom. after emancipation america tried to continue this insidious practice by supporting and arming the mullatoes and encouraging them to subjugate the majority black population but they were soon toppled by the black majority, now the blacks have unanimously voted in a grass roots man of the people - former priest Jean Bertrand Aristide, but the americans dont want him in because he is more interested in alleviating poverty amongst his people than lining the pockets of evil corporate US predators, therefore he was deemed unsuitable and had to be dealt with. he was kidnapped at gun point, forced onto a plane and flown out of the country under instructions from former US president George Bush Jnr. before the americans carried out this illegal act, Aristide was warned of what was to come and tried to defend himself by importing arms from Thabo Mbeki of South Africa, the shipment of weapons was impounded in Jamaica by the american military and Aristide realising that he had been cornered had no choice other than to surrender to the americans. i totally respect the haitian people as they are still protesting and asking for the reinstatement of Aristide however all forms of resistance have been met with brutal reprisals, bombing and shooting of unarmed civilians (men, women and children) by US trained paramilitary death squads, UN so called peacekeeping troops, in addition the international media remains silent and any coverage given is a complete distortion of the truth whilst these atrocities go on as we speak. An unwanted US backed puppet is now in power and has bowed to all of america's demands (IMF loans, structural adjustment policies etc) - its tragic. http://www.oldamericancentury.org/aristide.htm @caps28. I completely lost my respect for Tudor the moment he started arguing that Messiah of the bible was white, this was because he claims to be an atheist, yet he still believes the Messiah was white. Despite that he has no reference for such a stand other than what he has been taught in the past as regards a White Messiah.i wouldnt even bother with Tudor he is beyond help - he is a complete house negro full of self hatred Repatration to Africa is probably part of the reasons why Abiola was killed, cus i think part of his personaly views is that repatration should be done.Yes i agreee that this was one of the reasons for Abiola's demise - reparations is definitely a taboo subject as far as the west is concerned, but notice how Gaddaffi demanded it and received it from Italy, on the other hand when the Namibian president asked the Germans for an apology and reparations in respect of the massacre of 50% of the native population in the 1920's when they rose up in protest against the occupation of their land what happened ? the germans stopped short at an apology but refused to pay any monetary compensation claiming that they make financial contributions by way of aid (which we all know is a complete scam as it goes towards creating jobs for whites and nothing more) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1561463.stm |
You are the real disgrace!god give me strength - i now understand why as a race of people we are still so far behind when we have trolls like you in our midst -gadaffi who you describe as a tyrant was paid $6b in reparations from the Italian president berlusconi for crimes of colonialism http://allafrica.com/stories/200809060013.html Israel received $222 m in reparations for the resettlement of 500,000 jews who fled Nazi Germany so if its good enough for Israel and Libya why is it not good enough for africans whose lossess are still being felt till today - you dim wit What strikes one about these highlighted countries? Iraq had a tyrannical and corrupt military dictator while haiti had one of the most corrupt regimes!yes i know iraq did have a tyrannical and corrupt military dictator but guess who funded and assisted him in to power - yes you guessed it the US - Sadam who by the way was a CIA stooge was aided and abetted by america until he decided to invade Kuwait Haiti - the first black republic who managed to liberate itself from white oppression by defeating the french and british imperial armies. of course america was never going to stand for that and they were punished with 60 years of economic trade embargoes, sporadic US invasions and overthrow of democratically elected govts. america recently DEPORTED a democratically elected president (Jean Bertrand Aristide) to the central african republic and he has now been replaced by a puppet who has signed the country up to unwanted IMF and world bank loans. the people have protested in the streets and have been gunned down by UN "peace keeping" forces - but of course these are all conspiracy theories arent they? |
You're such an embarrassing joke!i see that your trying to mimic my writing style by regurgitating some of the insults i used on you - i forgive you as i know that your intellectual ability is on a par with a toddler, however i have taken the time to attach some links that might enlighten and hopefully educate you (maybe im being too optimistic) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=170&a=4733 with regard to the loans - im afraid i cant explain how that works to you again - i dont care how slow your brain is at processing information! malaysia invested in its people, india and singapore are doing the same. . . . Infact india is also multi ethnic yet they are working together to move their country forward through democracy. . .India!!!!! - a country ravaged by crippling poverty (42% living under the poverty line and 46% of their children suffering from malnutrition) disgusting and immoral caste system, disgusting and predatory labour markets and sweat shops with people surviving on less than $1 a day and HUGE corruption problems - please go away and read some books (if you can concentrate for long enough) |
You yourself are a disgrace!can i have examples of these successful CONTINENTS or would that be expecting too much from someone with such a crude and simplistic understanding of the world. secondly im very sure you have never studied the history of the african continent and therefore it would be futile for me to point out to you that the current political and economic crises being experienced in africa today are as a direct result of covert and in some instances overt western interference. the code word used here is "friendly countries " which really means puppet countries , countries which seek the right to their own self determination and have left wing ideologies ie dont want to open up their markets to the west, devalue their currency, cut public expenditure and remove trade barriers are labeled "unfriendly" - but im sure all this is going way over your head!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you were capable of thinking you'd know that what you wrote here is pure bullshit.hello? hello? the lights are on but nobody seems to be at home!!!!!!!!! these loans are actually IMPOSED on african countries because they are used to hold african countries to ransom, whenever the beneficiaries default on the payments (which they are encouraged to do as it gives the west carte blanche to do whatever they want with the recipient countries natural resources and economy), the economies of these countries are then systematically hijacked and remodelled to suit the selfish economic interests of the creditor countries (the US) but get this - so called third world leaders who resist this arrangement are usually threatened by what are known as foreign economic hit men who give them a choice - take on these crippling loans with draconian conditionalities and extortionate interest rates that can never be paid off or face overthrow of your regime by the CIA. so you see its a win win situation for the west and a no win situation for third world economies. - you see Tudor you are too ignorant and naive to understand the real world of international politics so you retreat into this your little juvenile world where for you as long as the boss is white he's always right!!!!!!!!! you poor thing Malaysia were presented with the same loans they rejected and today they are far ahead than the entire continent put together. . . . I don't think they even have natural resources there, Quit being lazy in thought please. This is undiluted nonsense!. yes malaysia has good leadership and as a result has enjoyed economic prosperity, but this has been acheived through a concerted effort of the malaysian people to unite against their common enemy - i m not disputing the fact that we have poor leadership - however most of us are bogged down with petty inter ethnic discrimination which is exploited by the west and prevents us from uniting to defeat the common enemy. Truth is Mugabe is a shameless idiot, a greedy old fool. Nelson mandela spent 27 years in prison fighting for his people, when made president he served his people and honorable stepped down after 1 term. . . Our resident Tyrant mugabe has stayed over 27 years in power!well since you and the west want to claim the moral high ground and label mugabe a tyrant - how about all the other tyrants who remain in africa and other parts of the world today? Saudi arabia is run by a murderous dictatorship - but i dont see america complaining, how about omar bongo of gabon - who gave the french oil company Elf indefinite rights to exploit his countries vast oil reserves and in return was allowed to retain his iron grip on power indefinitely (41 years to be precise) without the threat of "external interference" ( french backed overthrow), what about america's favourite african tyrant - mobutu who was in office for 32 years and who murdered thousands of his people and appropriated millions amassing a personal fortune of over £20billion, i dont remember the international community calling for his removal, the truth is the west pick and chose their tyrants - todays tyrant could be tomorrow's bosom buddy its all about "economic self interest" , Saddam was a murderous tyrant who gassed his own people using biological weapons sold to him by the US, but they still propped up his regime, it was only when he started getting above his station by invading oil rich kuwait that he needed to be slapped down and of course last but not least your very own nigerian dictator Yar adua who uses the nigerian military as his own private death squad to kill, rape and maim niger delta militants - why isnt britain and america saying anything about that or could it be because of the lucrative oil and gas contracts that might be jeopardised? Why not open up your own media company so we can get the accurate news from you. . . .rubbish!i dont expect you to understand that the western corporate media is owned by elite groups who have vested business interests in the government - they are propaganda machines used as instruments of MIND CONTROL, hapless victims like you are constantly manipulated and teleguided by the half truths, ommissions and lies that these organisations churn out, they tell you what to think, how to think and then they decide who you should consider as an enemy. Most people with an iota of common sense have understood that the media institutions are in the pocket of the western govts but i dont expect someone of such low mentality like you to be capable of critical thought. for your information countries like britain and the US were built on the sweat and blood of african slaves - so if i decide to live in the UK it is my right and prerogative to do so, if whites can boldly go to africa, murder and brutalise africans then seize their land and then have their own foreign govts protect them from justice then surely it would be ludicrous to suggest that someone like myself who is a law abiding tax payer should be prevented from living and working in a country who owes its wealth to the toil of my ancestors. Who said mugabe shouldn't carry out land reform?was the seizure of zimbabwean land "done rightly" by your western white masters? since when did a thief have the right to plead that they have not received justice. If i barge into your home uninvited, rape your wife, kill your children and take over your home and you retaliate by coming back with a gun to take back your home from me, do i have the right to turn around and say that you have treated me unfairly? since when were theifs accorded the same rights as law abiding citizens, house negros with slave mentality such as yourself are a disgrace to our race - you are incapable of logical thinking because your brain has been completely destroyed by years of brainwashing by your white master. All the human rights abuses against ordinary zimbabweans count as standing up to the western vampires, right?again more ignorance - land reform is the main reason why the west ganged up against him. do you think the west care about the so called human rights abuses being perpetrated against black zimbabweans - after independence the whites were only concerned about retaining their position of economic dominance - hence thier insistance on retaining 20% of the voting power in that country during the lancaster agreement, please get it into your thick skull - currency devaluation is a direct result of massive trade embargoes imposed by your western slave masters - if there is anyone to have any greivance against it is your western slave masters and not Mugabe. please list to me the "lucky" countries that have been on the receivign end of economic trade embargoes and have flourished - actually i know you wont know but ill enlighten you as to the damage these sanctions cause: iraq - since 1990 6,000 children died monthly as a direct result of trade sanctions imposed by the US (source UNICEF) Haiti - since 1999 impostion of US sanctions - deaths of over 1,000 children a month (malnutrition, other diseases) Cuba - sanctions imposed since 1962 have led to financial earnings in excess of US$70billion here is a quote from one of your white slave masters before the passing of ZDERA in 2001: In his testimony to the US Senate in September 2001, ahead of the passing of the US sanctions, the so-called Zimbabwe Democracy and Economic Recovery Act, former US Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs Chester Crocker called for the annihilation of the Zimbabwean economy. Crocker said, "to separate the Zimbabwean people from Robert Mugabe, we are going to have to make the economy scream. And I hope you, Senators, have the stomach for it." unlike you, i dont need to resort to abusive language in order to put across my point - i understand that it is due to your limited vocabulary and non existent intellectual ability, i only thank god that retards like you are limited to working in macdonalds and cleaning toilets in the seychelles if that is where you really are. |
Tudor you are soooooo embarrassing - you seem to be so full of inferiority complex that you cant even admit that Britain along with the US and the EU have committed an immoral act against Zimbabwe by imposing some of the most draconian economic sanctions ever imposed on a sovereign nation, if you were capable of reading between the lines you would see that Mugabe's problem with the West began as soon as he refused to accept crippling loans from the imf and world bank, which have been used time and time again to reinslave african nations and hijack their natural resources. why are you so quick to condemn mugabe who by the way did more for black zimbabweans than your beloved white slave master farmers. here is a man who fought courageously to free that country from iain smith's aparthied rule and who was willing to to forgive the british for their dehumanising treatment of his people. You have swallowed hook line and sinker the propaganda churned out by CNN, BBC, Fox and all the other political prostitutes masquerading as news media - WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!! the white man is not your friend - his only aim in life is to subjugate the black man or are you waiting to be put back into shackles before it dawns on you. here is a man who is standing up to these western vampires and instead of you commending him you are demonising him, the british couldnt care sweet FA about black zimbabweans all they are interested in is protecting those criminals who have no rights over the land they are illegally occupying. I dont care what Mugabe's motives are behind the land seizures - the british double crossed him in 1980 by entering into an agreement (the lancaster agreement) that was unenforceable and they knew it - they are rogues. Your morgan tsangarai is a pathetic british lap dog with no self respect. economic sanctions are a weapon used by western predators in order to force weaker nations (mainly black) to toe the line: these are some of the countries that have been on the receiving end of some of the most brutal economic trade embargoes: Haiti, Cuba, Libya, Iraq. they are used as a weapon of agression and they are immorall because they ony impact ordinary people. so please lay the blame where its supposed to be laid and stop with the house negro behaviour. |
hi everyone i have a question what happens if youve been refused the right to adopt in the UK and you then decide to adopt from Nigeria and bring the child in to the Uk to settle - do you think that the adoption agencies in the UK might block it on the grounds that you've been refused in the UK your responses will be much appreciated many thanks |
redsun:would you be saying this if your family members were on that plane? |
Ibime:@ Ibime it seems as if you are saying that the reason that we are in the position that we are in is due to our backwardness and NOT based on a worldwide WHITE conspiracy, but the question to ask is would we be where we are today had whites NOT degraded and dehumanised us in the past. i am not wallowing in a form of collective self pity here i am merely trying to find a way out - in order to cure a problem you must first know what your problem is and where its coming from. i cited instances of black malfunctional behaviour which seem to apply across the board but more specifically amongst blacks who live in the west - what is it about living amongst whites that creates this level of malfunction. i therefore disagree with your point that we as blacks are at the 12th century level of development because to me that view point buys into the eurocentric view of blacks as primitive and backward which we are not. we are more than capable of elevating ourselves above the postion that they have assigned us to and we should not be buying into a racist eurocentric view of who we are. therefore to continue to reiterate that we are still in an "age of tribalism, serfdom and feudalism" is simply to beleive and accept an inferior position which has been assigned to you by white superemacists. what is "tribalistic" about asserting the right to self determination, to say that we are serfs is to buy into the Jim Crowism and segregationist ideology that racist whites tried to prop up after the abolition of slavery and to take blacks back to a pre civil rights/independence, pro lynching era, to say that blacks are still in a feudalistic age is a complete insult to the sacrifices made by people like Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Marcus Garvey and many others who fought for what many blacks take forgranted today. @Horus i agree with your overall perspective on unity - but many of us are divided, our minds have been programmed into self hatred mode and we look at ourselves in the same way that our white slave masters look at us. Why would we use the words serf, tribalism and feudalism to describe ourselves - it can only be because this is what we have been programmed to beleive courtesy of years of destructive brainwashing aka the white western (mis) education system. i beleive that there is a need for an undoing of all of this damage before we can begin to think of uniting. @ Ibime if there is no conspiracy to destroy us why are there so many negative images of black people in the media, why have there been so many concerted efforts on the part of western governments to stop blacks from forming progressive groups - you might want to read up about a covert US government operation known as COINTELPRO which began operating from the late 60's, also why are african governments being run by western supported puppets, why are US financial institutions like the world bank and the IMF working AGAINST the economic interests of african countries, your answers would be much appreciated. |
Ibime:i think using the extermination of native americans by the early north american settler colonies further illustrates my point about destruction - the indians refused to give in to white domination and paid an extremely heavy price, which to my mind seems to illustrates that if you are not useful to the white race you are destroyed, after most of the native american population had been wiped out the need arose for labour in the americas hence the importation of slave labour from africa, during the colonial era we were also needed as labour to help with the administration of their system -so keeping us alive was necessary, therefore we werent granted any favours, but what im trying to get at is whether our current condition today is linked to the contact that we had with the whites earlier on. my view is that before the coming of the white man we were evolving but we had already made great advancements in areas such as architecture, astrology, philosophy, medicine etc contrary to eurocentric perspectives. my question was NOT whether there was a GENETIC reason for our underdevelopment but whetehr there is a white conspiracy (which may be covert) against our development. to say that we as a race are still in the stage of tribalism,serfdom and feudalism is to disregard all that we acheived before our evolving civilsation was interrupted by slavery, colonialism and now neo colonialism. |
ive been doing quite a bit of research on the condition of black people in the western world and africa and there seems to be a similar pattern wherever you go, be it europe, north america, south america, africa its the same story our people remain economically the poorest group of people in the world. my question is why? i understand that this is a very complex subject and therefore im sure the causes will be equally complex however these are some of the things that have caused me to wonder whether we are facing a world wide conspiracy of destruction by whites: there seems to be a huge breakdown within the black family unit in western countries ie high incidence of single parenthood high incarceration rate of black men into the western prison system high level of unemployment amongst blacks in western countries in relation to white populations lack of knowledge of self and our history lack of respect amongst our men for our women high incidence of interracial marriage (particularly amongst the men) What i would like to know is this - are we under attack by the white supremacist structure or are most of the above issues self inflicted? id be interested to know what you guys think. with regards to africa - most countries on this continent are under puppet leadership which is being controlled by the west with the citizens of these countries living in grinding poverty |
MrCrackles:you're welcome - see below interesting article written by a former british mp http://scottishlaw..com/2009/08/tam-dalyell-writes-on-truths-about.html |
MrCrackles:i would say that he was a fall guy - there is no evidence linking Libya to this incident. i beleive that Libya was set up to take the rap because of earlier alleged attacks against the US and also because the real culprits are now "friends" of america - gadaffi also desperately wanted economic sanctions against his country to be lifted so i beleive he did a deal with the devil (the US and UK) to take the rap for the bombing and pay the relatives of the 270 victims £2.7b (£10m each) and suprise! the sanctions have now been lifted and he has entered into lucrative gas and oil contracts with the UK. |
MrCrackles:i would emphatically say NO |
cap28: |
"There is a dimension to this story that has not been explore" "Al-Megrahi only withdrew his appeal which claims he was innocent only 24hrs before his release and the man as we speak is bent on proving his innocence". could this be because he is actually innocent "In fact the news of his impending release had already broken before he withdrew his appeal. In essence the Scotish Government are claiming to show compassion to a man who even had no remorse". again could this be because he is innocent - why show remorse over something you didnt do "This to me sounds like an imposed compassion, and does not make a lot of sense". "The question is why are they so interested in showing compassion to man that is not even sorry". maybe because they have something to hide - pressure was mounted on al megrahi to drop his appeal - i wonder why "The only thing that makes sense right now is the story of Junior Gaddafi claiming that the release is part of a trade deal with the British Authorities. I think Gaddafi has also implicitly confirmed that by his Thank you message to Gordon Brown and the Queen". yes i agree and i gadaffi was justified in including al megrahi's release as part of the deal seeing as he was innocent "I think the fact that the British Authorities are willing to release a convicted terrorist because of oil deals does not suprise me. What I find suprising is there attempt to deny it in this digital age and 24hr news cycle". i think you need to understand that vital evidence in al megrahi's case was tampered with - the conviction was UNSAFE and the british and americans KNOW this also a lot of background documentation has now been placed under public interest immunity by the british govt which means it can NEVER be released to the public because according to them it might harm national security - you need to ask yourself why this is so relatives of the UK victims of this flight do not beleive that al megrahi did it and are asking for an independent public inquiry, but now that al megrahi has decided to drop his appeal this is no longer possible. |
the more i read about this case the more i realise that yet again that elements of the western corporate media have tried to deceive and mislead us, i believe that there has been a huge miscarriage of justice and it appears that al Megrahi had nothing to do with this - on the other hand america is up to their neck in this - if you read the court papers on this and the various eye witnesses testimonies you will find huge inconsistencies, apparently a senior scottish police officer admitted that the evidence used in implicating al Megrahi was PLANTED at the crash site. http://news.scotsman.com/lockerbie/Police-chief-Lockerbie-evidence-was.2656485.jp- how can we ever beleive anything these people say! this explains why obama and hillary clinton were far from condemnatory of al Megrahi's release. in addition the UK and US are said to have KNOWN al megrahi didnt do it but decided to pin it on him anyway because one of the real culprits (Syria ) were providing support to them during the first gulf war, so the uk and us figured why not pin it on our next best enemy - LIBYA! God save us from these people |
" McKren:totally agree - Gadaffi and his son are brilliant they are playing these hypocrites at their own game!!! its sooo funny because hopeless brown and milliband are running around in circles trying to disassociate themselves from what Gadaffi's son is saying -what a bunch of greedy loosers!!! |
i agree with Nex - absolutely nothing to do with compassion and everything to do with securing lucrative oil and gas contracts- Gadaffi being the clever fox that he is must have stipulated that he would only okay the deal upon Megrahi's release. but i love the way Gadaffi's son stabbed the british in the back by exposign their hypocrisy and revealing the real reasons behind the release. the british are pure and utter scum as for america they make me sick, have they forgotten how their navy shot down an iranian passenger plane in 1988 killing all 290 people on board including 66 children -and they refused to apologise - i actually belevie that obama and co were privy to this deal and all the "outrage" that they're showing is all fake. as for scotland they're just pawns in this game - the british used them to do their dirty work, everyone knows that there is no way scotland would have been allowed to make this decision unilaterally without it first being okayed by britain and america. the thing that worries me is that Megrahi may have been a fall guy in this whole thing, apparently he was planning on appealing the decision which would have led to some startling revelations and someone higher up didnt want this to happen, hence the decision to to release him. |
@nex i totally agree - most foreign governments are controlled by a military industrial complex whose sole objective is to make HUGE profits - in 2005 UK's arms sales to nigeria were valued at £53m - i beleive that figure has increased since then http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2005/jun/12/uk.hearafrica05 |
kobojunkie you are wrong to compare Australia and Canada to Nigeria as former colonies that are doing well in contrast to Nigeria because britain's relationship with these countries was and remains completely different from its relationship with Nigeria. first of all Australia and Canada were founded as settler colonies for whites. In the case of Australia this was where ex convicts who were no longer wanted nor needed in britain were sent. the british massacred or removed most of the indigenous aboriginal population to reservation areas and resettled the dregs of their own society in these countries however these people were still regarded as equal to their british colonial masters and were allowed to run and manage their own affairs very early on in their development by way of what was known as home rule. This is in marked contrast to what happened with Nigeria, the colonialists intentions were purely exploitative - they were not interested in developing the country only pillaging and plundering whatever it had to offer, also the british regarded we the "nigerian" people as heathens and savages and they beleived that they had to "civilize" us by bringing christianity and western education. They treated us as if we were children and self rule was to be granted only if they were allowed to chose and control all subsequent leaders. The economies of Australia and Canada have flourished due to the fact that Britain's relationship with them is not an exploitative one, both countries enjoy fair and equitable trading and immigration agreements with britain because they(Australians and canadians) are seen as their own people who share a common ancestry - this is definitely NOT the case in terms of the relationship that britain has with nigeria. your statement about aid is totally wrong - the aid that countries like the US provides us with is a scam - they offer LOANS with what they call conditionalities attached - these conditionalities when complied with cause extreme poverty to ordinary people in the recipient countries and hamper economic growth. other scams that they engage in which they call aid involve the building of what is known as white elephant projects (expensive unecessary constructions works) at inflated prices with money that they LOAN us - again these are all scams these contracts are usually awarded to their own contractors and therefore the money goes back into their own pockets and these useless projects only benefit the collaborators (FGN) who get kick backs and the donor/contractor (the US). you refer to private donations made to Nigeria from white men to the tune of $2trillion -i find that highly unlikely, no white man gives you that kind of money without expecting to get his pound of flesh Amaka is right in stating that the british armed nigeria during the biafran war, as a matter of fact most western countries deliberately arm both sides of a conflict in order to maximise their profits America did this in the first and second world wars as well as Vietnam - this should give you an idea as to the type of people you are holding in high esteem. Kobojunkie one mistake you make is that you tar every nigerian with the same brush by assuming that we are all corrupt by the statement: " If not the British, then whom? Nigerians? The same ones that have reduced the nation to a laughing stock in less than a century?" - that statement shows a lack of understanding and a beleif that we as a nation are completely inept - the northern elite are not the nigerian people - i beleive that there are honest people in Nigeria who are capable of leading this country. finally i totally agree with Amaka on the biafran war issue - the british colluded with their northern lap dogs to decimate the igbos - FACT, Kobojunkie can you please explain to me how igbos brought the genocide of their own people on themselves? can you explain why 30,000 igbos (including men, women and children) were slaughtered by screaming lynch mobs in the north for the simple reason that they were prosperous and ambitious, can you explain to me why igbo males over the age of 10 were lined up against the wall in asaba and shot in the head by nigerian soldiers, can you explain why pregnant igbo women had their stomachs cut open by nigerian soldiers? i dont think you know what you are talking about. |
i dont think there's any need for us to bring back the colonialists as they never left in the first place!! all that happened was a changing of the guard whereby the british passed the keys to the kingdom across to their Nigerian stooges for safe keeping - the northern elite. the reason we continue to suffer as a race of people is because we are incapable of critical thinking - years of brainwashing by way of western education and christianity ensured the complete destruction of our ability to think and act in our own best interest. We talk about how we are educated - but my question is educated to do what? to follow and agree with everything the white master tells us?. Just to show you how dire our situation is we have completely forgotten the damage that was done to our people by way of slavery and colonialism: the genocide and subsequent dehumanisation of our people which continues today particularly in north america and europe although now under a different name: institutionalised racism. the white man really did a job on us because he knew that if he could control how we think he wouldnt have to work too hard in order to control the way we act, i look at the way we think and its all about being like him and he knows this. This is why he can use the northern elite against us because he knows as a people we lack self love and are totally in awe of him, he knows we find it difficult to think for ourselves and he knows that we cherish him more than we cherish and love each other, so what he does is pit us against each other. look at how docile and malleable we are - why after centuries of brutalisation by him would we even think of asking this question how can we look at nigeria today in its current state of decay and beleive that we are honestly an independent nation - its a fallacy to even think that we are. Everything that has happened to this country since independence has been orchestrated and teleguided by the west. do you think that the northern oligarchy attained their position of power fair and square without any help from their british friends? the western countries have only one objective and it is the complete subjugation of africa, its people and its natural resources therefore to ask for these same people (who never left by the way) to come back and save us is a bit like a nazi holocaust survivor asking a former nazi concentration camp guard for assistance on how to recover from post traumatic stress disorder! The west has always and will always want what is best for them and not what is best for us and any relationship that they have with us will be based on fulfilling that interest and that interest alone therefore - people lets stop making fools of ourselves and wake up to the reality of the world we live in. Nigeria does not exist in a vacuum - the west needs our natural resources - they are cunning - they will resort to all manner of underhand means in order to achieve their goals including using our own people against us - theyve been doing if for centuries how do you think they were able to conquer the world! for some reason this simple truism doesnt seem to register with most nigerians and again and again i keep hearing the same arguments: " its still our fault because this northern elite should know better than to exploit their own people and " we have allowed them to get away with it and therefore we deserve what we get" my answer to the first statement is - the northern elite do not see themselves as brothers and sisters of southerners - they allign themselves more to their muslim brothers and sisters in north africa and the arab world as is evidenced by the fact that nigeria is now a member nation of the OIC and the D8, their relationship with the south is purely an exploitative one (just like their puppet masters relationship with them). my answer to the second statement is - we are completely divided along ethnic lines and until we can overcome our petty differences and unite, any attempts to face down the common enemy will be nothing more than a fantasy. if you look at a country like Haiti, the first black republic - it has continually had to pay the price for emancipating itself from slavery - america imposed a 60 year trade embargo on them and they were ordered to pay reparations to their former slave masters (the french) which crippled their economy. this was their punishment for having the guts to stand up to white oppression, the country was then invaded and a puppet dictator was installed, recently in 2004 america invaded the country again under the pretext of peace keeping and removed a democratically elected president (Jean Bertrand Aristide) who won by an overwhelming landslide and had him deported to south africa! when the people came out to demand the return of their democratically elected president they were massacred by UN "peace keeping" troops and US trained paramilitary death squads. a puppet administration was then installed (quite similar to Nigeria's) and now the country has signed up to various IMF and world bank loans that are causing extreme hardship to its people (just like Nigeria), the Haitians being a courageous people are still protesting and still being massacred but no main stream western media is carrying the story because of the embarrassment that it will cause to their governments. i refer to Haiti because it demonstrates that getting rid of an unpopular administration is not the end of the problem but the beginning as you then have the Puppet master to contend with. in my opinion bringing back the slave (puppet) master will mark the beginning of the end for us - the way forward as a nation is to UNITE - against the common enemy - the northern oligarchy and the West - that is the only chance that we will have to defeat the current tyranny that we are under and the tyranny that is yet to come. |

