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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 5:05pm On Apr 21, 2020
Victornezzar:
Yup

That's true.... Capitalcee... Engrelvis... Sailorxy.... Dopejemi

Weedtaker also
I am here bro. I have been making comments here occasionally, not often though
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:34pm On Apr 16, 2020
spillo1:
Lol back then intentionally elbowing a striker in the face was a perfectly valid defensive play rather than a penalty and red card. Some of all these ajebutter strikers and players of today won't be able to cope.
Am telling you. If you take Ronaldo and Messi to that time, they will not score as much as they are scoring now. And that time, there are more world class defenders available
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:33pm On Apr 16, 2020
raumdeuter:
You can only face whats in front of you. Boateng only faced whats in front of him which included some of the best strikers of his generation in Messi Aguero


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1SkXGrTFOc
Him try sha. But looking at that 1994 clip, the match was so super charged, No wonder world cup no de sweet again
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:24pm On Apr 16, 2020
spillo1:
Ronaldo had a great World Cup 98 and was the best player I still believe if he didn't had that seizure Brazil would have won , but it was not entirely his World Cup; Rivaldo was immense, as were the french team, Vieiri, Luis Hernandez, Salas, Suker, Bergkamp and Frank De Boer, Laudrup brothers, etc... This was a World Cup where almost every team brought in something to the table.
I have actively watched all world cups from 1994, but France 98 was the best. See stars.

-Valderramma and Asprilla from Colombia.
- Beirhoff and Klinsmann from Germany.
- Kluivert, Seedorf, Davies, Bergkamp, Stam, De Boer brothers from Netherlands.
- Brazil was lite. Ceaser Sampiao was the unsung hero.
France was laden with stars, the only surprise was Stéphane Guivarc'h starting.
Mihajlovic of Yugoslavia.
Croatia has Suker, Prosinecki,
Denmark has Sand, Laudrup and Schmeichel.
Italy was overloaded.
Romania with Hagi and co.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:14pm On Apr 16, 2020
afrodoc2:
Let me just add this here.

Baresi 1990 and 1994 final. In the 1990 clip you will see excellent defending, midfield, and even wing play from Don Franco.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKQUcjizTIQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boPQNpPvJq0
True true, Football that time was hard ooo, those attackers that period de try oo. See intensity. Where is raumdeuter? Come and see World cup final defensive performance, no be dat audio one wey you de dash Boateng for 2014.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:05pm On Apr 16, 2020
afrodoc2:
I always say the greatest teenage players ever are Pele and R9. Until his body and those Italian killers betrayed him he was on a mad trajectory.
I am telling you. But I also noticed something, Brazilians especially attacking players dont last at the top, they easily loss form before 30. EG,
Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Kaka, Rivaldo, Coutinho, Adriano and even Robinho although his career never got off.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:57pm On Apr 16, 2020
afrodoc2:
Common misconception. Ronaldo won the best player award.
Really? I never knew oo, i thought it was Zidane, because he (Zidane) later won both the ballon dor and FiFa world best player that year.
Honestly Ronaldo in 1998 was unplayable, even though he was just 21 at that time, One of the players in history to dominate 2 consecutive world cups. The reason I was offended at the name "Fat Ronaldo" lol
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:54pm On Apr 16, 2020
spillo1:
It's not a comparism between those keepers/Defenders and the players you mentioned. Baresi was the best defender in that tournament likewise Buffon in 2006 and Neuer in 2014. Dominate respective of their positions.
You are absolutely correct.

There is also Dino Zoff in 1982 and Oliver Kahn in 2002.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:51pm On Apr 16, 2020
afrodoc2:
We are comparing defenders to defenders not attackers.
Ok. I see
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:50pm On Apr 16, 2020
Kimbeast:
I know he was immense in 2002 but What if I told you he was better in 98 than 02?
Ronaldo was a better player in 1998, But he absolutely dominated the 2002 tournament. The only match he did not score in was versus England in the 1/4 finals, he was head and shoulders above every attacking player in that tournament(Rivaldo has a case though) and Hassan sas of Turkey.
In 1998, for me, he was also the best player in that tournament, he was allegedly poisoned and suffered concoction before the final, but there was also Dennis Bergkamp, Zidane and Davor Suker. Zidane won the best player though.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:45pm On Apr 16, 2020
raumdeuter:
To me, US94 was Baggios tournament. He carried Italian attack solely

Romario had Bebeto who contributed a lot too. But Italian attack was just Baggio
You are correct. The 1994 world cup was Baggio all through. The Holy Pony tail
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:43pm On Apr 16, 2020
raumdeuter:
Oliver Kahn 2002 world cup

Matthias Sammer Euro 96
Oliver Kahn in 2002 is arguably the best performance by a goal keeper in a world cup, ran closely by Dino zoff in 1982.

There is also Lev Yashin in 1960 Euros
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:38pm On Apr 16, 2020
spillo1:
Neuer at 2014 World Cup and Buffon at 2006 World Cup.
Defenders - Cannavaro in 2006 World Cup, Baresi in 1994 World Cup and Nesta in 2003 Champions League.
- Neuer did not dominate 2014. He might be the best Keeper but did not dominate that world cup.

- Likewise Buffon in 2006, though he conceded 2 goals(zaccardo own goal vs USA and Zidane penalty in the final), and he was phenomenal, but dominate? No. That world cup belongs to Zidane, and Cannavaro.

- 1994 world cup Baresi was the best defender and among the best players overall in that tournament. But Romario and the Holy Pony tail Baggio were the dominant figures in that tournament.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:30pm On Apr 16, 2020
Kimbeast:
World Cup wise:

Maradona 1986
Fat Ronaldo De lima 1998 2002
Zidane 2006
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 1:18pm On Apr 14, 2020
Expert17:
The only obstacle that will stop Kane from joining wud be the asking price......

Sancho and Kane can both join this summer.

...........................Mctominay............................

Sancho.......Pogba..........Fernandes...........Rashford

...............................Kane....................................
I am not a huge fan of Martial, but i will chose him ahead of Kane. Kane is a injury prone and could be another Sanchez. Martial is starting to score and you intend binning him?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:30pm On Mar 23, 2020
Ravioli:
Mason Greenwood is the 8th most expensive player in the world among the players born in the 2000s from the 5 major championships, estimated at €50.6M.

[CIES]
Even if united want to sell Greenwood. No way are they selling him for just 50 million Euros.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 10:42am On Mar 13, 2020
BlueAngel444:
thank God, but how?
He recovered the way others recovered, over 50k people world wide have recovered of Corona virus.

https:///hn5d0ikm60 this is his Twitter handle
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 10:36am On Mar 13, 2020
BlueAngel444:
lol, I like your hope but no one will make this season null and void so still no UCL for arsenal intact there is no miracle that will make arsenal go to UCL.

Let your hope be for a miracle that cures Covid-19 so that arteta , Odoi, Rugani and the rest can survive.

Right now it's lives that matter not sports
Hudson-Odoi has recovered
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:47pm On Mar 12, 2020
larride:
That guy is a dunce.
As in eeeeh. I just de give am benefit of doubt sha. Considering where he is coming from. We need Sancho TBH
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:42pm On Mar 11, 2020
This Joe Felix is not it ooo, or is it Simone's tactics that is not favouring him?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:43pm On Mar 08, 2020
- De gea was very Fantastic today.

- Maguire very shaky in early first half but our best defender throughout. Captain Fantastic. World class defender.
- Matic very commanding performance.
- Fred Verrrrrrry Solid as usual. Struggling between him and Matic who should take man of the match
- Martial Lazy but flashes of quality.
- Bruno, Quite but effective.
- Willaims, put in his body, but inexperience shown most times.
- Where was this Shaw all these years? Oh My God this guy is turning into something else. And he is just 24. Like a new signing.

DANIEL JAMES. I hate to say this , But he is just running, running, more running, and running, no quality, no sense, no control. Below average. I just hope he improves. How he finished this game baffles me.

Ole need early substitutions please, Ighalo should have come in earlier. Otherwise nice game tactics.

If we remain 3 points behind chelsea after the spurs game. We will overtake them into the top 4. Todays game against Everton was a fluke. I am very sure.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 5:11pm On Mar 07, 2020
GloryIsaac:
It was an emotional outburst.

There are racists, i know, if you've worked with some of them, you'll probably know what it means to experience racism without being called a 'nigga'. Some will be racist to you while smiling with you cheesy grin

Couples sometimes have heated arguments and say unprintable things to each other, things that shouldn't be said. It doesn't automatically mean that they hate each other, that's what emotional outbursts can do.
Thanks bro. They think racism is just when you call someone a racial name. If they have worked with white people they will understand
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 5:05pm On Mar 07, 2020
elampiro:
But a bank employee is reprimanded by his boss, not just a random person insulting him.
Then why is he making fuse about the insult by the fans? A bank employee will obviously not come and tell his boss that he did not perform because he was insulted by a random person. Head or tail. Lingard dont have excuse
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:59pm On Mar 07, 2020
iamoyindamola:
Adriano's father death turned his life, most of these players are dealing with a lot.
Dier was forced to engage a fan, xhaka had to do something too, mustafi was made miserable grin
Most of these players can't deal with insults
People have issues
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:59pm On Mar 07, 2020
Swissh:
I don't care about lingard. I am only answering base on the example you gave in your post because you keep referencing 100k meaning as long as you are well paid by your employer you can be insulted then no problem hence my maid example.
If you fail to meet the expectations of your employer and he "insults" you about it, and you are not comfortable with the insult of your, you resign and press charges if there is a ground for that. Not remaining on the Job, receiving your wages and crying.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:53pm On Mar 07, 2020
engrelvis:
well said bro....life can cruel.l never knew Ronaldo 's mother was dead?
Yes he is in Portugal now. Even me, I have personal issues too, and I school and do tough assignments and work too to carter for my family and parents too. The school on some occasions do extend submission time for me, and wave class attendance issues for me, but when you submit your essays and write exams, you have to actually pass, nobody will pass you due to your personal issues. You can even defer your study till you are stable. I work too, I do get days off(without pay), I just dont get punished for cancellations, I can be allowed to go home early, come to work a bit late, take longer breaks. But your performance even if its not top notch, it shouldn't affect the progress of your institution, if it does, you must either take time off or resign. In my case stop picking shifts. So Lingard should not be hounded, but he must develop thick skin or resign. Man United have shareholders, i dont think they are interested in Lingards personal issues, Points will not be added to United on the league table because lingard has issues
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:36pm On Mar 07, 2020
Swissh:
So basically as long as the maid in the house is getting paid the owner can treat her anyhow they like. Spillo actually made sense. Criticism and abuse are too different things entirely.
What do you mean "can treat her any how they like"? How was Lingard treated anyhow? If the maid in the house is constantly over salting the food, leaving stains on washed clothes, not cleaning the house properly and generally not doing well very obviously. And its understood that it was because her parent in the Village is sick. The best thing is it not to resign and go and take care of the sick mother? She can even be paid extra pay off. What do you mean by abuse? He is paid to do a job, if he cant do it, by all means he should resign, that was even one of what the fans who accosted him were demanding. None of them insulted his family or even him. They shouted about his performance. I was only pitying him on a personal ground, but on a professional level, i dont pity him.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:10pm On Mar 07, 2020
spillo1:
LMFAO......Sorry but this is pure bullshit. Their is a difference between criticism and pure abuse on a personal level. Criticism implies you want better as a fan, abuse results in the direct opposite.
I watched the clip. Though the abuse was harsh. I dont see any abuse on PERSONAL LEVEL there. I only heard things, "you are shit Lingard"......F...ck off Lingard" .... "0 goals, 0 assists in 2019". The racist abuse is not yet confirmed even. So i dont see any personal thing their. To me this is Criticism though in a harsh and invasive manner. Go to banks, business/Corporate organisations and companies and see how employees are reprimanded you wont be talking like this. Or have you forgotten that he (Lingard) is an employee? How many times have you insulted Buhari just this year? Do you know the level of insults and abuses Trump and Boris Johnson recieve from Americans and British people? Lingard is paid 100k a week, thats the Annual pay of an experience Medical consultant in NHS. So he need to develop tough skin and soldier on, or he resign. Simple. People pay north of 100 pounds on match days to watch the team play well, most people even travel on away games from Manchester to say Southampton, do you know how much that cost? I sometimes rearrange a work shift just to watch United matches, or do you think the fans too dont have personal issues? Ronaldo's mum was also sick you know. if you give your car to a mechanic to repair, and he collects his wages upfront from you. I dont think you will take it lightly him, if he damage you vehicle beyond repairs and come up with a story that he couldn't concentrate because his wife was in the hospital, or he want to do school run for his children. I know you will be asking for a refund at the minimum.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:51am On Mar 07, 2020
engrelvis:
saint Elvis...LMAO.Pls I dnt support violence in whatever form.football is a very passionate n emotional game esp at d top level.dat is d sad reality.so b very cafeful what u do or write on Twitter, Instagram etc.there r a lot of psychos out there.I remembered when Yakubu Aiyebeni lost DAT golden chance at world cup a lot of Nigerians were enrage.so where even threatening him. Dats d kind emotions football brings.fans here r even good.Everybody v personal issues. Ronaldo is currently in Portugal because of his mother.she is sick.if he starts performing poorly juv fans will still come after him.Williams of Chelsea lost his mother. If he was continuously inconsistent because of dat,he will b sold.No matter what a good musician is passing through if he is churning out bad music his music labels/ sponsors will drop him.ls nt good but dis just d sad reality of life.
You said it well, Honestly when I watch the video, i was so sorry for Lingard, that he is not performing on the pitch is absolutely not what he wants, I am sure he wished he was doing very well. The verbal attack on him nevertheless was at the extreme, especially the racist abuse (Although I dont bloody care if you call me black for that is what I am). It quite unfortunate that Lingard has to take care of his Sick grandmother, take care of his young Kids/Siblings etc. Life can be so cruel.

BUT...
I have come across millions of people that have to do less paying and demanding jobs, Yet their Wife, Husband, Child, Brother,Sister or even Parents will be very sick. Still they are not making wild excuses, they are still working hard to cater for their sick relatives, Yes some good organisations might be given day-offs, less working time or time off, with full pay. But it has limits. I did not subscribe to abuses and insults, but If Lingard knew his Mental and personal issues are affecting him, he should have asked the manager for a time off and his pay is still not affected. Ronaldo is now in Portugal for the death of his mum, she might be suffering from some illness, we might not know, Mourinho's dad was terminally ill, although he was moody but that did not affect his Job. I can go on and on. All of us have problems, even in this united team, just dig deep, you will discover that their are people who have bigger problems than Lingard.
Its not out of place for lingard to request that with the level of competition in Man United, coupled with the size of the club, that he didn't think he can cope with the pressure of consistent performance at the top level, in the light of his personal issue. Therefore he is demanding for a transfer. The club can even give him some severance, he can move to a championship or a league one side to conclude his career, who knows he might bounce back.
Afterall,, Same Lingard was caught on Camera few months ago, wanking and the video was leaked mistakenly on social media. I dont think, the person who has a sick parents and Kids to take care of should have such time for useless and immature frivolities. People advised Rashford to stay away from him due to things like this. Lingard is a bad example of professionalism and work ethics.
Someone with mental issues cannot be advertising clothing lines, he negotiated his jumbo contract without any fuse, so If he can do those things, why not perform on the pitch. So please we sympathise with Lingard for his issues and does not subscribe to racist abuse, however, he has to leave the club now, the fans cannot put up with poor performance, he is being paid to do a job, if he cant do it he should not be collecting any pay
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:20am On Mar 06, 2020
eph12:
Always good to have a striker that loves being in the box
This is underrated.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:55pm On Mar 05, 2020
ChristineC:
that makes sense, however what effect do you think it will have on the current wage structure considering Harry Kane especially can demand near £300k weekly.
I don't think the Kane deal will go through. But Herrera demanded for 300k a week, some people where saying he should be given, if we get quality for 300k a week that will make us win things i dont think its bad.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:41pm On Mar 05, 2020
ChristineC:
if Sancho is north £100m and Kane about the same (not disregarding the weekly layout that'd accompany such a mammoth fee), does Ed really need to pay that much for only two footballers to get this team challenging for titles?
Those 2 players can Raise you from mediocrity to Champions.
-RVP in 2013, i know you will say united were 2nd the previous season, but that title was won at a canter.
- VVD and Allison for Liverpool.
If Hernandez was at the beginning till now, we might be challenging City for 2nd place.
Quality not Quantity

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