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sinizia:
Pogba will come in the second-half to unlock the stubborn defence.

God I so much hate that man tactics. You have Kane, Son, Bergwin and Lamela in your lineup, but still parking bus

Mourinho don pack double decker as usual oo, this match go hard us I swear. Na this kind match I hate

timay:
i think his contract was renewed in the beginning of the season before he was loaned back to Sheffield

Ok thanks bro. He should be readied for a starting place very soon, the boy is good

patrickmuf:
Nobody said he isn't ready, the big problem now is what do we do with De Gea?

Personally, I think we should loan Henderson to Sheffield for one more season.

How many years does Henderson got on his contact? Let's not continue loaning him until he is out of contract

And we are saying that this Henderson is not ready?

MaestroJosh:
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Oasis007:


Make una no vex, but I won't mind to roll out the below Formation against Spurs.


_______________ De Gea _________________

AWB ________ Bailly __ Maguire _____ Shaw

__________________ Fred _________________

_____ Fernandes ___________ Pogba ______

Greenwood ______ Martial ______ Rashford

This will be Ole's starting lineup versus Spurs, believe me.
_______________ De Gea _________________

AWB ________ Bailly __ Maguire _____ Shaw

____ Fred ______________Matic/Mctoms

_..................____ Fernandes ___________

James ______ Martial ______ Rashford

Herbiedeen:
Seriously, how many games has Pogba, Neymar and Kane missed through injury since they joined their present club compared to Baily's

And nobody is disputing his ability, but compared to Lindelof's consistency and improvment, he is way below........and apparently you only made mention of just one match while Lindelof has been bossing most times even more than Maguire

Sorry sir, but apart from early season settling in into a new team. Maguire has been head and shoulder above Lindelof, watch our matches very closely, you will see the sort of quality defender Maguire is, apart from early season hiccups, Maguire has clearly proven to be better than every single defender we have had since the retirement of Rio and Vidic. Lindelof on the other hand has been shaky, not just one match, versus Southampton away is another one, too much misplaced passes to no man's land and lacking g in aerial presence. He can improve but we need quality.

Look at the manner you surreptitiously meandered away from the sailent points. You are veering off from the main point, we are talking about who there were, when they joined, not what they previously achieved years ago, like the case of Owen, or will later achieve. For example you can't compare Carrick's status when he joined from spurs and say when he has won many trophies at united.

raumdeuter:
Before joining Man Utd RVP was the top scorer in the entire league just like Lewandoski was top scorer in the league. They were the best strikers in the league and poached from a rival

Like I said this is the only plausible comparison.

raumdeuter:
Just like Rooney was an established player, a starter for England. He had already gone to the Euros and was of the best players in the tournament. So explain how a player who was one of the best players at the Euros become an unproven player? You are saying he was 18yr old. Well Gotze joined Bayern at 19yrs after he won the golden boy award just like Rooney did

Seriously! When did Rooney join United? 2004, at that time Rooney was unproven kid at relegation-threatened Everton, Gotze has already won 2 league titles, DFB pokal as a key midfielder, was instrumental to Dortmund reaching the UCL finals. He was among the overall best players in the league. Imagine Abramovich never even considered Rooney during his spending spree, but bought people like Kezman and Drogba same season, that's to tell you Rooney's status that time.

raumdeuter:
Just like Klose had a world cup record, Owen was a Balon dor winner. The only Englishman to do it in a long time,

Haba Dayo see amalanomics, Owen joined when his career was gone and you are talking about a balloon dor he won 9 years before joining united? Someone on a pay by play contact? Klose that went on to 2 extra world cup to break the record. As at when klose join bayern, he was a statement signing, a world class player, just 1 year after winning the golden boot at the WC on home soil. Owen was at the twilight of his career, while klose joined bayern in 2007, 7 years later, he started and won a world cup final. How can you compare

raumdeuter:
Just like Ballack and Leverkusen just enjoyd a good run in nthe CL, Rio and Leeds just enjoyed a good run in the CL also getting to the CL semi finals. So what is the difference?

A good run So Ballack no longer Dragged them to the final abi. That Leverkusen team was very very good, they challenged on all fronts missing out a treble, their key players went on to shine at the 2002 WC just few weeks later, people like Ballack, Ramelow, Schneider, Lucio, Basturk, etc. Leeds never challenged for anything, that was a true definition of a good run.

raumdeuter:
Maguire is the world record defence signing, For Man Utd to make a defender the world record signing shows his level.



Lucio despite all those was in Leverkusen when they were struggling with relegation until Bayern got him

Are we talking about fee or status?? Bayern were just bidding their time before pouncing, Lucio was always going to bayern. Maguire's price was just due to market forces.

raumdeuter:
You forgot Pavard was also relegated with Stuttgart before joining Bayern? Or that doesnt count? Smith got to CL semi and got relegated, Pavarad won world cup and got relegated

Smith reached UCL semis in 2001 and got relegated in 2004, Pavard, got relegated before winning the world, that was a reverse order. Pavard was on upward trajectory, Smith was on downward spiral. They are not the same. Smith at that time was behind Owen, Rooney, Heskey and Vassel in the national team pecking order. Pavard won the world cup playing all matches, benching Djibril sidibe who reached UCL semis and won the league the previous year. On was clearly going up, the other was dwindling.

raumdeuter:
You mean Ze Roberto? Abeg tell this forum the world cup Ze Roberto won Lets see the one turning amala here.
Before joining Man Utd, Tevez was 3 times SOuth American footballer of the year, Won Copa Libertadores and CLub world cup as a key player, tell us what Ze Roberto won and his contributions to those before Bayern

Sorry I mistaken him for Roque junior, who also player for Leverkusen. even at that, Zeroberto joined Bayern as one of the best midfielders in the league, he was a top proffesional and a quality player.

raumdeuter:
Before joining Bayern, Sule has only played 58mins for Germany and how is Crystal Palace different from Hoffenheim

The difference is AWB just graduated from palace feeders so unproven. Sule has proved himself in the league with Hoffenheim a couple of seasons.

raumdeuter:
False. Lucio joined Bayern in 2004 after Leverkusen struggled with relegation.



Now lets see the person turning amala

it doesn't change anything, they left anyway.
Everything Germany is dominated by Bayern, they hover the best talents in the league, leaving the rest teams helpless. Look at the First XI that started the final in 2014, Eight players (about 80%) have played or playing for bayern at that time. Only Ozil, Krammer and Howedes were exempted, even at that Howedes played in makeshift position, Krammer was a surprise starter, while ozil's place continued to be under scrutiny throughout the competition.

raumdeuter:
Speculative buys indeed
How is RvP different from Lewandoski
Rooney from Gotze
Rio different from Ballack
Owen different from Klose
Berbatov different from Gomez
Maguire different from Hummels
Carrick different from Lucio
Pavard different from Alan Smith
Fellaini from Goretzka
AWB different from Sule
Tevez different from Ze Roberto

This same Frauiola won the EPL twice back to back and even broke the points record, what he was not able to achieve in Bundesliga nor Spain

What are u even saying dayo? The only comparable pair up there is RVP and Lewandowski as at when they joined, even at that, RVP was in Arsenal struggling to even make top 4, while Lewandowski was really leading Dortmund to challenge Bayern, but let's leave it at that.
- But Gotze and Rooney? Gotze, was already an established player in a dortmund when he joined, He was a key member as Dortmund won 2 Bundesliga, and led Dortmund to champions league final, he was among the team of the year in Bundesliga. but Rooney was an unproven 18 year-old kid from Everton who is not even a confirmed starter at Everton, he won his first Young player award in United. You can't compare Rooney at Everton with Gotze at Dortmund. One was an established winner, the other was an unproven kid from a mid table team.

Owen and Klose? Owen was relegated with Newcastle and injury prone, dead career. He was signed on a pay by play basis a surprised and uninspiring signing, who is signed to be a bit part player, compared to the undisputed German number 1 striker? Who retired only in 2014 as the record goalscorer in WC?

Rio and Ballack? The same Ballack that "dragged" Leverkusen and Germany to UCL and World cup finals single handedly? Signing Ballack then was like signing Harry Kane now, he was the face of German football. Nawao Dayo.

Maguire with Hummels. Lol. Hummels that was instrumental to Germany winning world cup and won 2 league titles with Dortmund, DfB portal and leading Dortmund defence to UCL final? Maguire that was relegated with Hull city 2 years ago, and Couldnt qualify Leicester to even Europa. Haba Dayo, fear God na.

Lucio to Carrick. Carrick a player who just broke out at Spurs and never tasted any European football before joining united. You are comparing with Lucio that already won world cup with Brazil, scored in Champions league final vs Madrid as the defensive leader, and his team lost the league and Cup to Bayrern on the final day. A Key quality player, world cup winner to an unproven spurs midfielder.

Pavard to Smith? A world cup winner and Smith who just got relegated with Leeds then joined United as a bit part player behind Nistelrooy, Saha and Forlan, his strike partner at Leeds Viduka joined Middlesbrough, is for you to know.

Tevez who rescued just Westham from relegation? To a world cup winner? Kai! Dayo!!!

AWB, that few months ago was in Palace feeders team? To an established German international like Sule?

That Bayern signed Zeroberto, Ballack and Lucio from Leverkusen just after a season they (leverkusen) nearly won the treble and fiercely challenged them on all fronts, is a testament of a clear talent drain. Just like man united signing Terry, Drogba and Lampard in 2006, after Gerrard, Henry joined the previous season. Tell me a recent proven German international of legendary status that did not play for Bayern. If it were in Bundesliga Guardiola would have signed Mane, Sallah, Robertson and Kane after last season, and will be readying bids for TAA and Pogba next summer.

I know say u must turn amala, but u know This is clear fact

raumdeuter:
Can you use this same energy to give us a list of players Man utd bought from other PL rivals

In your team below are some players who played for you in the last 2 seasons that came from other EPL sides
AWB, Slabhead Maguire, Shaw, Matic, Mata, Alexis , Smalling, Lukaku, Young, Jones, Fellaini Daniel James
In that list you named over 20 players from year 2000

In that time frame I can add people like Rio, Berbatov, Carrick, tevez, schneiderlin, Valencia Van Persie Rooney, VDS, Michael Owen, Allan Smith, Saha, Bellion, Carroll,


Despite that you have not finished top 4 despite spending almost a billion

Look at the kind of players you are calling. There is high competition from top EPL clubs for talents. Most of these guys are just speculative buys rather than certain key game changers. Among the players you mentioned, Only Van persie was the best in their position as at the time he arrived United, everyother one of them including Rooney could go either way. If united behave like Bayern, Our first eleven would have been DDG, VVD, Maguire, AWB, Robertson, KDB, Pogba, Kante, Salah, Hazard and Kane. With Rashford, Aubameyang, Alexander-Arnold, etc on the bench. Aguero, Vardy, Mahrez would have played for Us, and left.
It's not same, No wonder fraudiola is not finding easy. Even Okey Emordi or Ladan Bosso will win Bundesliga with Bayern. Rubbish league

https://www.squawka.com/en/bayern-munich-signings-from-bundesliga-rivals/


Cc.. Raumdeuter.

Dayo, look at what Bayern is doing in Germany, hovering up talents from their rivals, no wonder no competition in burndisleaguedown. Tueehh!!!! No wonder fraudiola won 3 straight titles in that league, but could not repeat same in EPL, after spending close to a billion Euros on Champions league semi finalists. Tufiakwa!

https://www.squawka.com/en/bayern-munich-signings-from-bundesliga-rivals/


Cc.. Raumdeuter.

Dayo, look at what Bayern is doing in Germany, hovering up talents from their rivals, no wonder no competition in burndisleaguedown. Tueehh!!!! No wonder fraudiola won 3 straight titles in that league, but could not repeat same in EPL, after spending close to a billion Euros on Champions league semi finalists. Tufiakwa!!!

Ravioli:
Wetin him do again?!?

That Haaland deal wey him deny us.

The thunder wey go fire that Fat idiot Riaola eeh.

Lana1:
Lee-to the-mao

Sean Dyche and Roy Hodgson are Average, while Arteta, Eddie Howe and Lampard are Good Ok.ooo

Despite Sean Dyche's Burnley constantly finishing above Eddie Howe's Bournemouth almost every season, and qualifying for Europa last season, despite spending considerably lower than Eddie Howe, even this season Bournemouth are pulling every stunt in their locker to get the season abandoned to somehow save them from going down. But Howe is better than Dyche. Ok oo.

Roy Hodgson that took over palace in 2017 after losing 5 straight matches without and the laughing stock of everyone, and get them finish comfortably since then, Same Hodgson that led unfancied Fulham to Europa Final. What has Lampard done in his managerial career? What has Arteta done to be ranked above Dyche and Hodgson? Eddie Howe is the most overatted manager in the premier league.

raumdeuter:
Worst defender of the night

Don't blame him. But I think since Lovren is not in Netherlands, I think the reason he was the worst defender that day was that he was called upon.

raumdeuter:
While VVD was doing the pointing, Matip was doing the actual marking, Matip didnt care about getting driblled or to preserve his dribble record,, he wasnt waiting for crowd to help him, He took the responsibility of stopping Messi

https://j.gifs.com/jZ9VJR.gif

VVD was waiting for the crowd the call upon him

larride:
Maybe you can point us to the player Messi wanted to pass to that VVD was running to mark.

Van Dik was running pointing like a traffic warden, so that he will be called upon

raumdeuter:
Read the below

Very intelligent submission, I always knew van dijk is a fraud, the day I confirmed it was when Ismaila Sarr and Denney ran rings over him. He was responsible for all Watford goals. But no, its Lovrens fault

raumdeuter:
If everyone points like VVD who will do the actual defending? others are running towards the threat, VVD is running away from it

Lol. VVD keeping pointing like traffic warden, until he is "Called Upon".

timbros:
This is one of the very few times "...when called upon..."

Look at this image very well. There are 5 Liverpool players here but we all know that VVD will be the very last person to engage Messi. He will point till even Henderson will mark Messi first.

Messi can never dribble past VVD, not because he doesn't have the skills to, but because he will never catch the retreating traffic warden.

Hhahahahahahah. Bros, are u saying that the only time VVD go to defend is only when he is "Called Upon"?

raumdeuter:
Wetin I tell you, Always pointing

Others are working hard chasing Messi, Out Lastma is pointing

www.nairaland.com/attachments/11491860_f494d36875394542989480c1277f769e_jpeg_jpeg58d1bac9ad83928e9c395e3fa727e343

SSssssssh, Lovren is the problem here. Anytime liverpool concedes more than 2 goals, Lovren caused it

timbros:
I'd rather discuss how the best ever EPL defender got disgraced by this useless striker

Who is the best ever defender in EPL? Where did you keep Rio, Cavarlho, Vidic, Terry, Stam and Kompany?

ChristineC:
if you are saying Park did better than Ballack in the EPL then we are on the same page.

That's what I mean bro. Thanks.

ChristineC:
ayam not understanding this post

Nothing hard to understand here. Park ji Sung performed better for man United than Ballack did for Chelsea. What are u not understanding

Expert17:
Giroud was picked ahead of Lauren, Mikel and Phil neville.

I will pick Lauren ahead of Giroud

ChristineC:
what did Ballack do in the EPL?

Yes compared to JS Park. Park performed better than Ballack.

Park - 4 EPL, 3 league cups, 1 world club cup, 1 champions league. 4 community Shield.

Ballack- 1 Epl, 2 FA cups, 1 community Shield.

Judge for yourself.

Expert17:
Best player in EPL history by shirt number from 1 to 18...

Dennis Bergkamp was picked ahead of Rooney and Aguero

Viera was picked ahead of Van dijk, Komapany and Fabregas

Gerrard won the no 8 battle, ahead of Lampard

How is Micheal Ballack ahead is Ji sung Park ? Is it a popularity contest? What did Ballack play in Chelsea

guy222:
They should bring the oil back and share 50 50 litres to us as palliative, abi the oil no be our own again, Atleast some of us go turn mini filling station for one week, selling mode already activated.

Share crude oil to you? Where will you refine it?

bergs2:
But is it not better they bring home this vessels and sell them at home here?
Just asking

That oil in the sea is unrefined crude oil. We don't have any refinery in Nigeria. We are sitting on a long thing