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afrodoc2:
Calvert-Lewin will target Lindelof’s area to win aerial balls out of long kickouts from Everton’s defence.
It is known.

Honestly, i wonder why Ole failed to start Baily, he is perfect for this kind of games. Not only calvert buy Richardson too. Ole should not let his Scandinavian bias enter Man u oo

I guess Matic started because of his height. For aerial battle. But honestly i de fear that Calvert-Lewin oo,

Godx:
Van dijk has been world class for the past 2 Seasons. If he can keep it up for the next 2 to 3 seasons he will be a great defender. Allison and Van Dijk are the only true world class players Liverpool have in my opinion.

No, Mane and Robertson are also world Class in my humble opinion.

patrickmuf:
When I saw Lovren I knew they was trouble. Henderson and Gomez are good at covering the space left by Arnold when he attacks.

All the goals were not as a result of any cover for the full backs. All he goals passed through VVD, all ball watching and lack of concentration. Infact the 3rd goal was a sloppy pass from TAA.

kendrick93:
Lovren destabilizes the defence Oga.
He doesn't know how to hold a high line, yesterday he was bullied everywhere by Denney and co..
Liverpool biggest losses have come with Lovren in the team..

He disorganised the defence abi, by letting TAA misplace a pass to Alisson abi, by VVD allowing Dacoure to ghost past him abi? and still watching him to square to Sarr abi.

It was Loveren that make Sarr to escape VVD and outrun him to score abi? Guy go siddon, i dont know how to make gifs if not i for show you how hollow you talk is. Was Loveren there when westham ran riot last monday and Liverpool just escaped. Just admit TAA and VVD had a terrible day yesterday

kendrick93:
Even the bestest of defenders in history have had much bigger defeats.....
Lovren was the main cause anyway

These Liverpool fans eeeh. How is Lovren the cause?

1st goal: a throw came into liverpool box, Deeney and Lovren contested the ball, both missed it, Dacoure ghosted in front of VVD, passed the ball from tight angle, with VVD guilty of clear ball watching, Sarr reacted quicker than Robertson to tap in. Lovren is absolutely not at fault. VVD and Robertson at fault.

2nd Goal: touchline scramble lead to a smart quick through ball by Deeney, Again VVD lost his man Sarr. He gave a chase but the Senegalese chipped Alisson. VVD was fully responsible for this one.

3rd goal: TAA gave a foolish backpass toward Aliison, Sarr read it and intercepted, with Allison off his post. Infact It was VVD that Sarr ghosted past to intercept the ball. He turned back to find Deeney who finished.
TAA and to an extent VVD at fault.

Oga stop blaming Loveren your easy target.

TAA, VVD and Robertson were all more culpable than Loveren

nitrogen:
Well, Zidane, Carlo, and Bob won 3 each in less than 20 years. And it took less than 20 years for Mou, Pep and 14 others to win 2.

So, any other question?

Mourinho, started coaching in year 2000, this is 20 years now. He won 2 UCL.

Ancellotti started in 1995, thats 25 years now. He won 3,

Pep has won 2 for 12 years now.

You fail to account that for the first 5 years of Fergie's reign, ENGLISH TEAMS WERE BANNED FOR 5 YEARS due to heysel disaster. And Fergie inherited a united team just not long out from relegation and is in the bottom half of the league.

nitrogen:
Mctom is better than Herrera, infact, Perreira and Lingard are wayyyy better. You shouldn't be saying that he lacks quality, he was asking for more, he didn't get it and he decided to move on, simple!

Anyway, na your way, as soon as we start seeing cracks again, you will conclude that Fred, Mctom, Martial and Rashford lack quality, while James that has done nothing in the last 7 months is a fantastic player.

Kontinu!

I no get strength. Click on my moniker and search my comment, have you ever seen me criticize James, AWB or Maguire? Even when almost every one is on their matter. I know when to judge, have u ever seen me criticize Mctomminay and Fred? even even when all of you guys are on them? I was emphatic on Herrera. He is a big fraud to be asking for 300k/ week when he cant dislodge Idrissa Gueye formerly of Everton.

timay:
Even though I'm a pro Herrera FC, I think not giving in to his demand was a right call from Woodward.

I think that was the moment Woodward started having sense. Even though his brain still dey do somehow sometimes

With the way he also successful negotiated Bruno's deal too by refusing to pay a huge sum, despite the pressure, it means baba is no more allowing people to scam him into paying huge transfer fee for regular players.

Honeymoon is now over for those agents that thought they've found a new maga in Man utd during TW

The issue is, Herrera is at best a squad player in any serious team, i appreciate his passion and efforts, but he lacks quality

Watford 2 LiVARpool 0, is it today? We shall see Half an hour to go

Chrisus:
Even when completely fit? That's extremely tough tbh

No sympathy here, Baba dey get wetin he deserve. At least, the cash is rolling in

Thats the kind of players people are daying we should give 300k per week.

Bournemouth look like they will win today, my mind tells me so

eph12:
In losing the ball, taking one too many touches on the ball, trying to do it alone, or feeling like he's heads and shoulder above all others, which one are you asking for?

Apart from this his idiotic antics on the field, how about his off filed behaviour of corrupting the dressing room by undermining the manager, bad influence on up and coming players, lack of professionalism.

Monkeyprick:
Are you high?
Tell me the best left back in European football if not the Scot. Gomez would easily slot into United, Chelsea, Arsenal defence.

Gomez will easily slot into United defence? To bench who? Are you mad? This our united insult don too much

odizeey:
I like the guy but the drama around him is too much. He no know say e go affect am?
He thinks Madrid will put 100 million on him after what hazard did to them?
He never see anything.

I think we should sell Pogba, no matter his quality he is a drama queen. Even if he starts playing well, he will over dramatize and make the team lose focus

Last season the team was.
Pogba, DDG, Young, Valencia, Darmian, Smalling, Lingard, Rojo, Jones, Fellaini, Sanchez, Perriera, Mata, Rashford, Dalot, Martial, Fred, Mctomminay Romero, Herrera, Matic,, Shaw, Bailly and Lindelof.

We may be having for next season:
DDG, Romero, Henderson (on loan), Rashford, James, Martial, Greenwood, Marguire, Shaw, Lindelof, Fred, mata, Mctomminay, Fernandez, AWB, Williams, Bailly, Shaw, Matic, Dalot, Tuanzebe, Fosu-Mensah, SANCHO, GREALISH, (Plus one more AM or striker Signing).

THE DIFFERENCE.
1. The team ethics and professionalism will be massively improved, as unserious players whose priorities are misplaced and infects the team, would have been sold or put in their place. Eg: Pogba and Lingard.

2. Winning mentality will be back, with strong professionals like Maguire, Fernandez, Fred and Mctomminay will take charge of the dressing room.

1. Fred, Mctomminay, Shaw and Rashford are clearly not the players they were , as at last season, these guys have massively improved.

3.There will competition for places which bring about urgency in our game, this is acutely lacking since Fergie retired. DDG and Martial might finally turn a corner again with Henderson waiting to swoop on the number 1 shirt, and more attacking players coming in, who knows Ighalo deal might be made permanent.

4. We will have experience players who will play games sparingly as back up, this is very huge. Please Ole should Give Mata and Matic one more year contracts each and we move like that, we need them, they are perfect professionals.

5. BRUNO FERNANDEZ. this man oozes quality.
6. Please Ole should give us Sancho, Bruno has shown what an impact a quality signing will be.

Finally with the success of Greenwood and Williams this season, We might do with One or two youngsters graduating from our academy.

The first 2 points are underrated but that has been the cause of 60% of our problem since fergie retired. The rest is the dire poor quality we parade.

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raumdeuter:
These are ratings by sport analysts and ex footballers

One of them is Rio Ferdinand, I think he should know some things about being a defender

Alright

raumdeuter:
People who watched those finals acknowledged that fact.

Jérôme Boateng 9

Made a vital clearance after a surging run from Messi and was always quick to snuff out danger. Quick, calm and authoritative, his displays in Brazil have been a revelation and he was man of the match
Jérôme Boateng was man of the match, Lionel Messi menaced the German defence and Philipp Lahm ran riot
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jul/13/germany-argentina-brazil-2014-worlds-cup-final-player-ratings

for Germany there was Jérôme Boateng and Philipp Lahm – as they thwarted attack after attack
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10964539/World-Cup-2014-Bastian-Schweinsteiger-drives-Germany-to-victory-in-enthralling-final.html

Jerome Boateng (Defender) - 9

Jerome Boateng
Got better as the match progressed. Made a number of important tackles and clearances after initially being troubled by the pace of the Argentine counter-attacks. The Bayern centre-back was dominant and was Germany's star performer. Man of the match.

Rio Ferdinand's view: "Boateng was immense today."
http://www.bbc.com.b.tldw.me/sport/football/28286068

This is how to boss a world cup final
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These are just sports papers, not officially from FIFA. These papers that rate nonsense and people have to complain about some of their ratings, most times their ratings are click bait. FIFA did not nominate boateng as the best defender but some bias newspapers

raumdeuter:
Does winning a world cup as the best defender in the final mean anything? Does winning the CL as one of the best defenders on the field mean anything?

Does being a starting defender for one of Europe top clubs for almost a decade mean anything?

No it doesn't only your opinion means something

Who gave him the bolded award? I dont think he deserve it

raumdeuter:
You told us When the Liverpool front 3 met him last season, he was disgraced

How did someone who didn't play get disgraced? Can we also say Bayern disgraced Kepa yesterday? not the players on the field but those who didnt play

Soon we will expand it to even players who were at home

Ok you win, but playing Abraham and Mount still does not add anything to his rating. He is still a rubbish defender

raumdeuter:
Can you provide evidence of this?

He didnt start the both legs but was on the bench for the 2nd leg, meaning he was not good enough to start. Still liverpool ran rings over his superiors

raumdeuter:
I was willing to stake $200 on the same Boatank you spend day and night dissing why cant you stake on your own defenders too

Playing Abraham and Mount are not the kind of opponents you will use to rate boateng. When the Liverpool front 3 met him last season, he was disgraced

Victornezzar:
Who be Bishop abeg

Lol you dey very observant

afrodoc2:
Vidić came in mid-season and had a tough 5 months . By the next season after his first pre-season he was very good.

Lindelof is 2.5yrs into his United career already. 2.5yrs into Vida’s United career he was a multiple league winner, a champions league winner, and accepted as one of the best defenders in the world.

Finally i never said Lindelof was not good or not improving. I just said he would never be the level of defender Vidić was, especially in the air.

Whenever you talk about players that are not good enough, folks will remind you of Players like Vidic and Evra. For God's sake, Vidic didnt even struggle the whole of the 2nd half of the second half of 2005/2006 season, It was just 1 or 2 games that he was not outstanding. 2.5 years after vidic came to man u, he was nominated for the the world Fifpro XI, ahead of world class defenders like Cannavaro, Nesta, Carvalho, Terry, Ferdinand, Lucio, walter Samuel, Puyol, Thuram and Sergio Ramos. So the Vidic example is rubbish, he actually hit the ground running. Evra was already beasting europe with Monaco before comming to united, had a couple of tough game before easily displacing Heinze, who at that was one of the first names on the team sheet.
Without exaggerating, i dont think most of our first team defenders now are even better than Mikeal Sylvestre and Wes Brown. Having said that, we are not writing anyone off yet, but they have to improve

elampiro:
He is not the only one. There is lot of impatience. We have had times where the song here was sell Fred. Mourinho is signing nonsense. Even Rashford was written off at the beginning of this season despite we knew he started his senior career on a high note. Sell sell sell. When a player is having a great moment, he is as good as Salah, Messi, Ronaldo. When he is having a bad time, he is eating free wages, not good for Watford and should be offloaded. You can criticize a player when there is inconsistency but to totally write off and say offload immediately shows guys didn't play football.

Oga i didnt say offload lindelof, i said DROP. Fred was dropped before, now he is untouchable, Shaw has been dropped several times now he is showing signs of good things, Martial, Rashford has all been dropped, they didn't die. Rooney was dropped by Fergusson on occasions. Benzema was dropped severally by managers before Mourinho came, Modric was initially dropped at Madrid, last year he won ballon dor.

We all know the players i was canvassing for to be offloaded, Lindelof, Rashford, Martial and Fred are not among, and OGS has done that. Players needed to be dropped/offloaded for the team to improve.
Do you know Ruud van Nistelrooy He is a goal machine, and scores like mad, Fergie Dropped him and subsequently offloaded him immediately, United won the league the following season and UCL followed the next. Who is Lindelof and DDG that they cannot be dropped or offloaded? Go and watch Pope of Burnley, Henderson of Sheffield, Heaton of Villa, Allison and Fabianski to see the jaw dropping saves they make, how many times this season have Your keeper made a match-winning save? Like the one Allison made vs Napoli, yet he earns more than everyone else in the world. Watch our games virtually every accurate shot on our goal is most likely a goal, where are the one on one saves? How has he commanded his area? How many ridiculous howlers has he committed? Thats how i judge a 375k/week GK. We all have praised him when he was superb, now he must be criticized for letting us down. I was not the Spanish coach who dropped him for Kepa of all people. Who said he cant redeem himself and make a comeback?

nitrogen:
Na everytime you dey see something, you always have issues with our players. Martial, De Gea, Pogba, Herrera(when he was here), Lindelof, etc. OGS should drop him for Bailly, someone that has a parmanent sick bed at OT.

Abeg, we need to continue to play Lindelof and Maguire, I am so sure the partnership will work.

And I have been vindicated in all.
Martial has been blowing hot and cold , even in the last 3 games he scored, obviously he has quality and should be in the team.

DDG has cost us points, he is no longer world class. Allison, Henderson, Pope, leno, Fabianski and Heaton has been better than him. I havent doubted his class, i have hailed him to high heavens before, but then his errors are becoming too much, like i said even if he goes to another team and blow its still justifiable.

We made a mistake not selling pogba in the summer and getting Fernandez, we would have been in the top 4 by now.

Herrera is a puffing and puffing no real quality, even Idrissa Gueye formally of Everton is ahead of him in PSG, he has to be shunted to RB in dead rubber games and cup games, yet he is asking for 300k/week, when we are looking at reducing our wage bill to accommodate quality players.

I am clearly correct about Lindelof.
Your ETC i should think means people like Jones, Lingard, Pereira, Smalling, Darmian, Rojo young and Felliani. I called on Ole to Offload 80% of our last year squad and he is doing just that. And that has been the best thing he has done as our manager.

Have u ever seen me talk down on Fred, Maguire, James, Mctomminay, AWB, shaw, Rashford(this season). ? I know you have your sacred cows which Lindelof is one, but i find it laughable that People think Maguire is not a fantastic signing, Lindelof is putting our defence in panic, I watch our 2 centre halves very closely every match, Maguire has been by far the better defender, Lindelof has to improve or else he must be dropped. For you the manager must be smoked even when he parades useless players. Just last year our starting eleven was.
DDG, Young, Smalling, Jones, Damian, Matic, perriera, Lingard, Pogba, Rashford, Martial. Among which is the virulent Pogba who will not play his heart out. Klopp dropped Moreno and Clyne to bring in TAA and Robertson, see those 2 today. If you are the Liverpool board, you would have sacked Klopp and bring in another manager to manage a squad of Karius, Mignolet, Moreno, Solanke, Lambert, Ings, Markovic, Benteke, Sakho, Milner, Henderson and Grujic

afrodoc2:
Lindelof is 25. We are not talking about a teenager. He will never be as good in the as Vidic or even Ferdinand.
He can work on decision making, reading the game etc but will always be relatively weak in the air. There are some things that you either have or you don’t.
His game is not ideally suited for EPL football. Same problem Christensen at Chelshit is having.

Thank God someone is seeing what am seeing. Lindelof has cost us huge points this season. Everton, Southampton, Palace, Sheffield United, Aston villa etc. Ole need to drop him asap and play Bailly. Our defence is usually very shaky with him

afrodoc2:
I am not convinced about Grealish. He always plays from the left rather than as a CAM, and he holds on to the ball/dribbles too much rather than passing the ball quickly.
I know KDB does not grow on trees, but someone who approximates his skill set is what i would prefer.

Doucoure as a sub would not be a bad idea. A loan deal for the youth team midfielders next year might be necessary.

Yeah, why i said grealish is that Villa might get relegated and he might come cheap, he can do few jobs when some of our players are out injured. For me a midfield trio of Mctomminay, Fred and Bruno is not bad. For me our main transfer target must be Sancho. A front 3 of Sancho, Rashford and Martial will be great.


Send Gomez and Chong on loan, even if its in the championship. Our GK Henderson should be prepared as the heir to DDG

afrodoc2:
Who will be the CDM? That "i never chop" Fred?

I would like to see is McTominay, Pogba, Bruno OR McTominay, Fred, Pogba OR McTominay, Fred, Bruno.

A formation change could lead to a 4-4-2 diamond with McTominay CDM, Fred LM, Pogba RM, Bruno CAM, with 2 strikers.

I like this your formation. If Pogba goes in the summer, we can use his money to buy Sancho, then get Grealish, which will be more easier if villa get relagated, we can add Abdulouye Dacoure from watford. Jones, Lingard and Perrera to go unfailingly.

DDG, Bailly, Maguire, AWB, Shaw; Mctoms, Fred, Bruno, Sancho, Rashford, Martial.

Subs: Grealish, Dacoure, Willaims, Matic, Greewood, Dalot, Tuanzebe, James, Romero, Lindelof, etc.

elampiro:
Martial has been the worst player. He is easily bullied off the ball and losses it on his own. Also making wrong passes. He killed a good counter

I have written off Martial completely, Its now clear that Rashford has both more talent and attitude than him.

Rubish:
Martial (As usual).
Pereira.
Lindelof and.
James.

Playing well.

Fernandez.
Maguire and
Fred.

The rest Average.