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CAPTIVATOR:
You are actually the real mockery of Christianity

How can Jesus claim to give everlasting life to humans who are capable to everlasting life as immortal souls ?

How can Jesus claim to die, when ordinary body is what dies and the real person of soul lives forever ?

When u mock Jesus ransom, you are FAKE!

Peggywebs, defend Jesus and answer the above

achorladey:
CAPTIVATOR: Number 2 was never my point from beginning but Number 1 .. False Profess, now that you introduce Succumb which was used ONLY for category 2 . do u have any issues with that ?


Next time when you pick up conversation with someone look well to see where they are headed, You jumped into the conversation without ascertaining where I left it with the previous person, here you are now TELLING ME CATEGORY 1, CATEGORY 2.

OGA CAPTIVATOR where did the word "PROFESSING" OCCUR in the paragraph?

Category 1 or Category 2.

Wicked men ENTER the congregation, Ungodly men who crept in _

By enter u think opening the door of kingdom Hall, Dont be silly, this are members with False Claim from start , This ones also profess but were False right from Start .

It says " in addition " to include them . before moving to the next.


Which u lied the Writer never meant Profess in the sense of False Claim !

Now you know it is CATEGORY 2 what is my problem with CATEGORY 1? HAHAHA HAHA. The bone of contention is right from the start on CATEGORY 2.

Yet you rain numerous qualifying remarks thinking you are the MASTER/ CAPTIVATOR of ENGLISH LANGUAGE or the INVENTOR. HMMMMMM.

Where I am headed I told you earlier you proved it to me.

CAPTIVATOR: Is it possible for someone who was once faithful to become unfaithful ?

Achorladey: I leave you to ponder over until the next time. At least you know Jesus christ said things on the faithful and the unfaithful slave.

Luke 12: 41 - 46.

41 Then Peter said: “Lord, are you telling this illustration just to us or also to everyone?” 42 And the Lord said: “Who really is the faithful steward, the discreet one, whom his master will appoint over his body of attendants to keep giving them their measure of food supplies at the proper time?+ 43 Happy is that slave if his master on coming finds him doing so! 44 I tell you truthfully, he will appoint him over all his belongings. 45 But if ever that slave should say in his heart, ‘My master delays coming,’+ and starts to beat the male and female servants and to eat and drink and get drunk,+ 46 the master of that slave will come on a day that he is not expecting him and at an hour that he does not know, and he will punish him with the greatest severity and assign him a part with the unfaithful ones.

From the above Oga CAPTIVATOR answer your question as raised above.

This is a warning, not even applicable to everyone, that slave feed others, If all of us are the slave , whom do we feed ??

To answer the former question myself, its possible, so what exactly is your problem that the writer admit some formerly faithful members succumb to wrong desires and become unfaithful ?

peggywebbs:
It doesn't still change the fact that they are a mockery of Christianity.

You are actually the real mockery of Christianity

How can Jesus claim to give everlasting life to humans who are capable to everlasting life as immortal souls ?

How can Jesus claim to die, when ordinary body is what dies and the real person of soul lives forever ?

When u mock Jesus ransom, you are FAKE!

rottennaija:
At least you finally admit they preach.

Accept Jesus and go to heaven when u die ( immortal soul ) , correct ?

Do otherwise and go to hellfire when you die ( Immortal soul ) , correct ?

Hairyrapunzel:
You will still die just like your founding fathers died. Armageddon will not come. You will not live forever on any paradise earth. Last last na still only inside your head and watchtower magazine you will see paradise earth.

I know u can be psychotic at times.

At a time every Jew refer to the Eden lost by Adam as " Paradise " , which paradise did Jesus promise the theif at his side ?

achorladey:
CAPTIVATOR: The writer of the article also used PROFESS, does that not EMBRACE the False claim?

Achorladey: You are the one telling me the "profess" means now as captured above EMBRACE FALSE CLAIMS. Before to you it means LACKING THE QUALITY and no other meaning is acceptable. What is it before it starts to EMBRACE FALSE CLAIMS. HAHAHAHAHA!

CAPTIVATOR: Read that Jude 1:4 again. How come those ungodly men crept in and no one noticed! " they turn the grace of our Lord into a license for immorality

Achorladey: The" SOME" you are TRYING TO place and throw under the BUS of UNGODLY MEN are you sure they crept in "UNNOTICED". When they come in to the organization do they not OPENLY DECLARE THEY HAVE REPENTED OF THEIR Sins and ungodly deeds?

Did many within the organization and congregations at large not see the changes made? As an example there are articles produced by the organization that talks about BIBLE CHANGES LIVES. Should such person SUCCUMBED to the perverted act of CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE. Is such an individual part of the UNGODLY THAT CREPT IN UNNOTICED?

Here is the paragraph again:


Why? “Wicked men and impostors” abound, and some may try to enter the congregation. ^{( Jude 1:4 Category 1, Profess Falsely, ungodly men)} (2 Tim. 3:13) [b] In addition, some professing to be a part of the congregation have succumbed to perverted fleshly desires and have sexually abused children. [/b]

There are two sections in the above. And BOTH sections " PROFESS " . profess here means different things, My definition was for number 1. , which you lied the writer never address, the writer Uses Profess to refer to FALSE CLAIMS

1. Those who made a False Claim, as evidenced by " wicked men" enter the congregation . how ? Jude 1:4 , they also PROFESS, do u agree profess in this case refer to False claim ?


2. This are those who didn't make a false claim from start but give in to fleshly desires .

Number 2 was never my point from beginning but Number 1 .. False Profess, now that you introduce Succumb which was used ONLY for category 2 . do u have any issues with that ? Is it possible for someone who was once faithful to become unfaithful ?

achorladey:
Here you are CITING Jude 1:4 when the WRITER of the watchtower used "SUCCUMBED" you are here TELLING me PRETENDING TO BE and FALSE CLAIMS hahahahaha.

Had you read carefully you will have seen all of this after sidestepping #QUALITY#QUALIFIED.

Here is the paragraph again:


Why? “Wicked men and impostors” abound, and some may try to enter the congregation. ^{( Jude 1:4 Category 1, Profess Falsely, ungodly men)} (2 Tim. 3:13) [b] In addition, some professing to be a part of the congregation have succumbed to perverted fleshly desires and have sexually abused children. [/b]

There are two sections in the above. And BOTH sections " PROFESS " . profess here means different things, My definition was for number 1. , which you lied the writer never address, the writer Uses Profess to refer to FALSE CLAIMS

1. Those who made a False Claim, as evidenced by " wicked men" enter the congregation . how ? Jude 1:4 , they also PROFESS, do u agree profess in this case refer to False claim ?


2. This are those who didn't make a false claim from start but give in to fleshly desires .

Number 2 was never my point from beginning but Number 1 .. False Profess, now that you introduce Succumb which was used ONLY for category 2 . do u have any issues with that ? Is it possible for someone who was once faithful to become unfaithful ?

Janosky:
The Jesus you claim to know is NOT the real Jesus of the holy Bible.

Copy these 6 questions & give your pastorpreneur god of men.
But Answer my 6 questions ,no dull yourself.

**1) John10:34-36, who is Jesus Christ telling you he is?

2) Rev1:1,5,6, what revelation did Jesus in heaven give to John ?

*3) Who gave that revelation to Jesus in heaven?
4) Matt16:13-17, what revelation did Jesus Christ say was given to Simon Peter?

5) Rev3:2,5, how come your "Jesus almighty God" lives in heaven & calling another Superior Being "my God" & "my Father"?

6)The God of Abraham is the God of Jesus Christ. Proof Jesus Christ has a God. Acts3:13.
Peggy, who is the God of the Father of Jesus Christ?

Lol, those guys are funny

Rottennaija even claimed the below, I hope he can tell me what the preaching is all about.

rottennaija
but I see other religious groups coming often to preach to me.
Matthew 28:19-20

What's this there preaching to you all about.

Accept Jesus and go to heaven. If you don't you go to hell . right ?

achorladey:
CAPTIVATOR: When your brain decide to answer that question, we would see if they gave Lip service to Jehovah or not.

Achorladey: Your questions, I have answered with explanation and you equally know what the writer have in mind now and its nice I see you highlighting it. The DUST FILLED BRAIN you and I share in common hahahahaha to be able to discuss, I have used to answer your question but that of mine, Smh!


This part in particular is still making me laugh....

YOUR CLEAR, AFFIRMATIVE answers to these questions indicate that you are QUALIFIED for BAPTISM as ORDAINED MINISTERS of JEHOVAH GOD.

yet this below according to CAPTIVATOR that it's JUST A ...................

..............CLAIM of having a feeling or QUALITY, when this is NOT the case.

#QUALIFIED#QUALITY hahahahaha

and the speaker go on to say THEY ARE QUALIFIED AS ORDAINED MINISTERS OF JEHOVAH BASED on THE FALSE CLAIM of these individuals and every other individuals watching on as AUDIENCE clap,cheer and merry to FALSE CLAIMS and FALSE ORDINATION and pray over them PAAPAA on FALSE CLAIM and FALSE ORDINATION. Hahahahahaha. I salute you CAPTIVATOR.

Now that you know the meaning of profess as False claim, Your problem has shifted to the speaker and Audience that clapped.


Small brain like yours , Their affirmative answers make them go " Unnoticed" by the speaker and audience. The audience and the speaker were never at fault. . READ THAT OVER and OVER AGAIN!


"For certain men have crept in among you unnoticed —ungodly ones who were designated long ago for condemnation. They turn the grace of our God into a license for immorality, and they deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ." Jude 1:4

Ungodly people came into the congregation, how ? UNNOTICED , Giving False claims, pretending to be what they are not . Its only their works that expose them!

Do you have sense now ?

HealingHeart:
Regina Daniels is an exceptional case, an arranged marriage to a politician for that matter. Do you really think that Regina prefers to make love and have babies with the old man, rather than her younger ex? Money can buy a woman's body, but not her heart . Regina's heart is still with her ex.

https://www.ghpage.com/regina-daniels-ex-boyfriend-somadina-birthday-message-photo/87157/

Someone with sense!

carter009:
If you like have 6,8,9 packs or muscular, if you don't have money in this country just forget it, have seen many broke muscular dudes, nothing for them.

If u have money, you definitely would attract women, Sugar and ant relationship.

But that doesn't stop her from going back to her real sweet heart after your wedding. So u don't know why all this married women cheat ?

Guys should stop this mentality of only money, Goet money, Then add a Good personality to it, look your best.

If all you got his money, she collect the cash and give it to that man she wants

lefulefu:
guy forget dat thing.was regina daniel's ex not handsome? was he not young? did he not have a better build? wasnt regina daniels dating him for his looks? yet she stil left her younger handsome boyfriend for an uglier older richer man.see if u a dude who depends on only his looks and build then u will just end up as a sugar boy servicing ugly old women.

He didn't say Regina won't marry Ned, his point is: Forget that ritual rite that was done, Nothing stop Regina from cheating on him with a man Her heart desires .

Money and Heart are two different thing

This is why some married women who married for the cash, keep going back to their Ex for secret affair. One is attraction, the other is financially stability.

achorladey:
CAPTIVATOR: So those Paul referred to as FALSE BROTHERS, are QUALIFIED FAKE BROTHERS, since they are also Baptized ? At the point of baptism , they were baptizes as False brothers?

Achorladey: Hahahahahaha! I still see brother I'm front of qualified fake or false whatever you have up there. Hope you get it.

CAPTIVATOR: Where is your sense ?

Achorladey: You are the one LOOKING for it, Find it!

CAPTIVATOR: Why is he no longer one ... Lacking the quality he claimed to have ?

Achorladey: This part made me LAUGH, "WHY IS HE NO LONGER ONE"........I thought HE IS NOTHING BEFORE NI. You are NOW asking why he is no longer ONE, Hahahahaha

and you can see this in front of you before you respond to this part of my post below.....

know you are familiar with the above statement. Since LAKASAGBA as an example is JUST an ORDINARY FAKE JEHOVAH WITNESS who has/had ABUSED CHILDREN since the opposite of REAL is FAKE, will the below

LAKASAGBA is no longer ONE of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES." be read to the congregation? Yes/No

Looooool. The answer to your question is already in my previous post.

CAPTIVATOR: Your head is filled with DUST

Achorladey: paste and print it on marble and place it anywhere you cherish as a beautiful reminder. As long as you agree you share something common with me to be able have a discussion with DUST FILLED BRAIN PERSONALITY.

CAPTIVATOR: Question 2 is a proceeding of question 1.

Achorladey: As if you cited the material and I told you that I need further explanation

CAPTIVATOR: Question 1 says *Dedicate yourself to DO Jehovah's will*

Achorladey: I know

CAPTIVATOR: Question 2 says that dedication ( To Jehovah) identify you as a witness.

Achorladey: I know

CAPTIVATOR: Now Since the person has REFUSE to walk according to Jehovah God will,

Achorladey: since when did THE PERSON REFUSE TO WALK OOOOOOOO?

CAPTIVATOR: They are not a Minister of Jehovah as shown in 2., they gave a false claim to Jehovah, lip service when their heart wasn't Ready to Do his will.

Achorladey: Exactly what I have been driving at, the keyhere is pack them under "FALSE CLAIM TO JEHOVAH", "LIP SERVICE" and throw them under the THE BUS. The BAIT worked just the way the WRITER of the ARTICLE wanted it.

Imagine you typing they MADE FALSE CLAIMS and LIP SERVICE
made me laugh.....

Profess ... Claim of having a feeling or quality, when this is not the case.

[/b]
CAPTIVATOR: Is Jehovah's will, Child abuse?

Achorladey: You expect answer, it's a pity you are asking an individual with BRAIN filled with dust. Hahahahaha. [/b]

CAPTIVATOR: Your head is empty, go back to those two questions, Which dedication identify the person as a Jehovah witness ?

Achorladey: It's no longer SUCCUMBED it's now WHICH DEDICATION. Hahahahaha.


CAPTIVATOR: Is Child abuse part of that Dedication to Jehovah will ?

Achorladey: It's a pity answers don't come from HEAD that is EMPTY because it is simply EMPTY.Hahahahahahah.

When your brain decide to answer that question, we would see if they gave Lip service to Jehovah or not.

achorladey:
CAPTIVATOR: Like I said your inability to comprehend author's intent will EMBARRASS you here .

Achorladey: Hahahahaha, leave embarrassment alone jumping from brain filled with dust to mentally diseased now EMBARRASS.


CAPTIVATOR The reason why this dictionary should enlighten you again.

Profess

1.
claim that one has a quality or feeling, especially when this is not the case.

Achorladey: I have seen this previously and break it down as it applies to the sentence under consideration nothing new to see here.

Profess:.........1. to receive formally into a religious community following a novitiate by ACCEPTANCE of the REQUIRED VOWS


CAPTIVATOR: Would a Real JEHOVAH WITNESS abuse a Child?

Achorladey: Hahahahahaha. I laugh because I still see JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES in front of REAL. Hahahahaha.

CAPTIVATOR: If no, what does that make those who do, QUALIFIED Jehovah witness ?

Achorladey: No, they are Qualified members of other Christian denominations or qualified OUTSIDERS or QUALIFIED interested PERSONS. Hahahahahahahaha! Or perhaps QUALIFIED FAKE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES if there is room for it in the dictionary of Jws.

So those Paul referred to as FALSE BROTHERS, are QUALIFIED FAKE BROTHERS, since they are also Baptized ? At the point of baptism , they were baptizes as False brothers ?

Where is your sense ?

CAPTIVATOR: And Part of the Required VOW is to abuse Children?

Achorladey: This will make me go to this statement below.......

"[Name of person]/LAKASAGBA is no longer ONE of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES."

I know you are familiar with the above statement. Since LAKASAGBA as an example is JUST an ORDINARY FAKE JEHOVAH WITNESS who has/had ABUSED CHILDREN since the opposite of REAL is FAKE, will the below

LAKASAGBA is no longer ONE of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES." be read to the congregation? Yes/No

Why is he no longer one ... Lacking the quality he claimed to have ?

And what does this tell you about this question of yours..........And Part of the Required VOW is to abuse Children?

Then the following.......

PUBLIC DECLARATION OF YOUR PERSONAL DEDICATION

[Invite candidates(would or soon to be WHO? to stand]

Please answer the following two questions in a loud voice:

(1) On the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have you repented
of your sins and dedicated yourself to Jehovah to do his will? (Your
answer, please)...............fill as REQUIRED

(2) Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as
ONE of JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES in ASSOCIATION with GOD’S SPIRIT-DIRECTED
ORGANIZATION? (Your answer, please)..............fill as required

As "ONE" of REAL JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES or ONE of FAKE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. Which one?

YOUR CLEAR, AFFIRMATIVE answers to these questions indicate that you
are QUALIFIED for BAPTISM as ORDAINED MINISTERS of JEHOVAH GOD

REAL ORDAINED MINISTERS OF JEHOVAH
or
FAKE ORDAINED MINISTERS OF JEHOVAH

Which one?

At this point do you CAPTIVATOR accept them(the CANDIDATES) as REAL or FAKE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES?

Please do you see the word "QUALIFIED" there?

[PRAYER by SPEAKER, after which he invites the audience to stand and
join the candidates in singing.

Your head is filled with DUsT

Question 2 is a proceeding of question 1.

Question 1 says *Dedicate yourself to DO Jehovah's will*

Question 2 says that dedication ( To Jehovah) identify you as a witness.

Now Since the person has REFUSE to walk according to Jehovah God will, They are not a Minister of Jehovah as shown in 2., they gave a false claim to Jehovah, lip service when their heart wasn't Ready to Do his will.

Is Jehovah's will, Child abuse ?

CAPTIVATOR: What does that make those who break the vow to commit such wickedness , lacking the quality of a Jehovah's witness ?

Achorladey: Emphasis on THOSE WHO BREAK after reading the above you should be able to fit the pieces together.

To help you a bit, they are like every other JWS the difference being that they SUCCUMBED to SEXUALLY ABUSING CHILDREN.

CAPTIVATOR: I said that your head will reboot by force.

Achorladey: You are switching career from doctor of MENTALLY DISEASED to COMPUTER BRAIN ENGINEER? Hahahahaha!. There the need to REBOOT mine. Your palaver to sort.

CAPTIVATOR: So tell me the difference between those who abuse children and those who don't?

Achorladey: Simple..........Those who abuse children and those who don't abuse children share one thing in common in the congregations, THEY ARE BOTH Jehovah's witnesses.

The difference is just one also

"SOME" PROFESSING i.e THOSE RECEIVED FORMALLY into the religious community of Jehovah's
Witnesses as QUALIFIED ORDAINED MINISTERS OF JEHOVAH (I.e JEHOVAH WITNESS) following a novitiate by ACCEPTANCE of the REQUIRED VOWS have SUCCUMBED to PERVERTED fleshly desire and have sexually abused children------ABUSES CHILDREN

MANY OTHERS i.e. THOSE RECEIVED FORMALLY into the religious community of Jehovah's Witnesses as QUALIFIED ORDAINED MINISTER OF JEHOVAH (i.e JEHOVAH WITNESS) following a novitiate by ACCEPTANCE of the REQUIRED VOWS have NOT SUCCUMBED to PERVERTED fleshly desire and DON'T sexually abuse children---------------------------DONT ABUSE CHILDREN

This has been stated previously, I only hope you know where I am headed

CAPTIVATOR: Refer back to my question for the bold.

I have EXPLAINED and answer your question. Before you get to this Part.

CAPTIVATOR: Since you admit that NOT ALL JW abuse children sexually, and the writer knows this hence the use of SOME to indicate those lacking the quality.

Achorladey: Good. Now your concentration here should be on this part of your post

"SOME" TO INDICATE THOSE LACKING THE QUALITY" and how it relates to SUCCUMBED

What you should have seen and note from here is since the "SOME" LACK THE QUALITY, then the need to SUCCUMB become useless, they are therefore doing what they know how to do BEST i.e ABUSE CHILDREN. After all THEY LACK that QUALITY that would made them not to ABUSE CHILDREN.

"SOME" TO INDICATE THOSE HAVING THE QUALITY and how it relates to SUCCUMBED

What you should have seen and note from here is since the "SOME" HAVING THE QUALITY i.e THOSE RECEIVED FORMALLY into the religious community of Jehovah's Witnesses as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES following a novitiate by ACCEPTANCE of the REQUIRED VOWS (QUALIFIED), then they are therefore doing WHAT they DON'T know how to do BEST i.e ABUSE CHILDREN the reason the WRITER used SUCCUMBED to PERVERTED fleshly desire and have sexually abused children.

CAPTIVATOR: Explain the difference between those who succumbed to such wickedness and those who don't ?

You have the difference in more explanations than one right in front of you before you get to this part.

Your head is empty, go back to those two questions, Which dedication identify the person as a Jehovah witness ?

Is Child abuse part of that Dedication to Jehovah will ?

Like I said your inability to comprehend author's intent will embarrass you here .

achorladey:
CAPTIVATOR: The One I gave you is the authors intent.

Achorladey: Hahahahahaha

CAPTIVATOR: Okay, let apply others to the paragraph , but if it doesn't match, just know your brain is filled with dust

Achorladey: The REMARKS has started. Those are part of your trademark. "BRAIN IS FILLED with DUST" yet having a DISCUSSION with an individual with brain filled with dust. The picture of what it tells me about you is painted clearly, I hope you see yourself CLEARLY.

CAPTIVATOR: If you are correct, this would apply to every single JW. , begs the question: why did the author add " SOME " professing?

What's the purpose of " SOME " ? If this applies to all JW?


Achorladey: I agree that you indeed UNDERSTAND the WRITERS intent. Hahahahahaha!

Your statement "IF THIS APPLIES TO ALL JWS" should have answered YOUR QUESTION ALREADY regarding the the WRITER USE of "SOME".


Those that are the "SOME" are THEY JWS or NOT?

The reason why this dictionary should enlighten you again.

Profess

1.
claim that one has ( a quality or feeling), especially when this is not the case.

Would a Real Jehovah Witness abuse a Child ?

If no, what does that make those who do, Qualified Jehovah witness ?

The "SOME" are they...........

1. QUALITY or FEELING) of BEING a JEHOVAH WITNESS especially when this is NOT the case and HAVE SUCCUMBED to perverted fleshly desire and have sexually abused children.

2. 1. THOSE RECEIVED FORMALLY into the religious community of Jehovah's Witesses following a novitiate by ACCEPTANCE of the REQUIRED VOWS have SUCCUMBED to PERVERTED fleshly desire and have sexually abused children.

And Part of the Required VOW is to abuse Children ?

What does that make those who break the vow to commit such wickedness , lacking the quality of a Jehovah's witness ?

Did I tell YOU or state that ALL JWS are CHILD SEX ABUSERS?.

I said that your head will reboot by force.

So tell me the difference between those who abuse children and those who don't??

CAPTIVATOR: If this applies to all JW, why did the author add " SOME " professing ?

Achorladey: It seems you typed that you UNDERSTOOD the WRITERS S INTENT. Hahahahahaha. The magazine is

1. Meant to be read by all JWS during the Watchtower study.

2. The information passed across under this point and paragraph we are discussing is meant to update all JWS that "SOME".....................................fill the rest based on previous point raised before this part.

3. The WRITERS ALREADY KNOWS that NOT ALL JWS are CHILD SEX ABUSERS the REASON the writer USED "SOME"

4. The "SOME" who are they? Refer to the above.

CAPTIVATOR: I now know you are truly mentally diseased

Achorladey: As long you remain a DOCTOR of THOSE that are MENTALLY DISEASED. No problem. It is you I can discuss with because +/- you understand and have first hand experience of those that are mentally diseased.

Refer back to my question for the bold. Since you admit that Not all JW abuse children sexually, and the writer knows this hence the use of Some to indicate those lacking the quality

Explain the difference between those who succumbed to such wickedness and those who don't ?

achorladey:
CAPTIVATOR: profess has different meaning but the author used it in the sense of the meaning I gave you:

Achorladey: So you know the word "profess" has different meaning and you think I will accept the only one cited

The One I gave you is the authors intent.

and not equally apply what other meaning of the word "profess" as it relate to the issue under discussion.

Okay, let apply others to the paragraph , but if it doesn't match, just know your brain is filled with dust

Then this as it applies to religious settings.......

Profess:.........1. to receive formally into a religious community following a novitiate by ACCEPTANCE of the REQUIRED VOWS

2 a : to DECLARE or ADMIT OPENLY or FREELY : AFFIRM

You should understand better how this apply to the JWS and the word PROFESS

If you are correct, this would apply to every single JW . , begs the question: why did the author add " SOME " professing ?

What's the purpose of " SOME " ? If this applies to all JW ?

CAPTIVATOR: The author used Profess to refer to those who claim to be JW but their works doesn't prove so.

Achorladey: Your word above in essence should be "THOSE WHO ARE JW but their WORKS doesn't PROVE SO". The reason I laugh at the author use of "PROFESSING" the watchtower itself is meant for JWS members and nothing but JWS members alone. Or do you give it out?

Here is that part of paragraph 3

" some professing to be a part of the congregation have succumbed to perverted fleshly desires and have sexually abused children.”

QUALITY or FEELING) of BEING a JEHOVAH WITNESS especially when this is NOT the case HAVE SUCCUMBED to perverted fleshly desire and have sexually abused children.

Hope you get where I am headed now.

If this applies to all JW, why did the author add " SOME " professing ?

I now know you are truly mentally diseased

Jozzy4:
Let me repeat the Fact that 1. You haven't gave a valid reason why those who lived in the past never ate this bread and wine IF its essential for everlasting life . your time difference theory only QUESTION the validity of Jesus claim to be the second Adam that gives eternal life, if his coming ONLY Affect people of his era .

2. You again, haven't respond soundly to the fact that despite Jesus institute the Memorial, we Stoll find a Man that same day who gained Life promise from Jesus without eating bread and wine , Your Exception theory contradict Jesus statmenent that " UNLESS YOU Eat " . who are the YOU ? How then can the man be an exception ? Is Jesus lying ?

3. You again failed to respond to @Jessicha's point that during the 1000 years of Christ reign, some unrighteous people would turn to doing good and gain Life, Did they ate the bread and wine ? No .

Now My focus is the below .



If it result to death and sickness , How then can you reconcile it with the below ?


48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. 50 This is the bread that comes down from heaven, so that one may eat of it and not die. 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever.

What Jesus OFFER doesn't LEAD to Death.

To address the they ate it unworthy : Don't forget that Jesus contrasted this flesh of his with Manna . Did people died from eating Manna ? Even when some people disobey some instruction guiding it, NO One died from eating it.

Is Manna now better than Jesus flesh ?



Attitude ?

Christ said and I quote

" “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you khave no life in you. 54 [u] Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life , and mI will raise him up on the last day. "

From where did you see attitude here ? He state " Whoever FEED " . whoever .

This is what happen when you try to merge to events that are different.


Even the Manna known also as Bread from heaven didn't kill anyone because of attitude . Is Manna better than Christ body ? ?

Jozzy4, me I will help him quote it o

cc : Rottennaija

achorladey:
I posted the below previously......

CAPTIVATOR PROFESS to be A Jehovah's witness. Is CAPTIVATOR a FALSE JW?

With your response this is how it will be rewritten

CAPTIVATOR claim that he has (a quality or feeling) of BEING a Jehovah Witness especially when this is not the case. Is CAPTIVATOR a False JW?

Its a bait just like I stated earlier and the reason I laughed concerning its usage in the article cited.

You need a daily coaching on something called Authors intent. U are too low in comprehension, profess has different meaning but the author used it in the sense of the meaning I gave you

The author used Profess to refer to those who claim to be JW but their works doesn't prove so . hence the definition I gave you. Which brought the term " FALSE brothers " .

achorladey:
"OUTRIGHTLY" the keyword I need here.

U don't need to say that outrightly, the message is gotten already . .

achorladey:
CAPTIVATOR PROFESS to be A Jehovah's witness. Is CAPTIVATOR a FALSE JW?

Just like I posted earlier, It's a bait you should understand the rest. As it is, FALSE is working it's way up as SYNONYMS for PROFESS

Its like comprehension dey affect una

Profess meaning
" claim that one has (a quality or feeling), especially when this is not the case. "

The bold explains why its a term for " False Brothers " 2Cor 11:26

rottennaija:
It's not actually me in the video. I saw the video, downloaded it, watch it before I decided to share it. When you are free from the clutches of the organization, they have no hold or power over you anymore. In cases like that, you can bolded defend yourselves and even the elders will be afraid of you .

The same way you have been defending yourself on the other thread , where is Jozzy4 ? .

achorladey:
Oga leave prosecutor and defendant alone........

The issue under consideration falls under the works and fruitage JWs and Churches produce and one of your colleagues said you are RIVALS for that matter.

I am wondering what kind of DEFENSE you have here. That article is a study article not meant for the PUBLIC. That the issue is raised is an INDICTMENT on its own that it is a big problem within the adherents of JWs. Perhaps you need to take a second look at the article again and do read paragraph 3 and the use of the word "PROFESS". You will be amused at it's usage.

Profess refer to " False Brothers " 2 Cor 11:26 .

omron:
Helo everyone please i need urgent advise a lady is in my room right now we are in relationship and we have always had good time together ,something happened this night just because i told her she should be keeping the room tidy she was so angry and annoyed that she said annoying things to me this night and i refuse to ear her food .. she left my room and went to sleep on the floor and we are both like cat and dog now ..she ask me for transport i gave her 3k and she said she will return to lagos tomorrow where she came from to visit me .. I noticed that anytime we quarell i always be the first to apologize to her ... and this time i see that she is so arrogant and i cant be like a fool all the time please should i let her go ..This matter is making me so sad and depressed right now ...we have always been having a good time to the extent that i dropped my former relationship just because of her

Connect the dots in the two bolded, Number 1. I don't support premarital sex but that aside.

I suspect the reason she has that power over you is because going by the statement of she went outside your room to sleep on the floor. Its obvious You are always the first one to apologize because of Sex . she went outside to Use her Power over you. And you came running like a desperate male you are.


Learn self control. It will take you places ... And no woman will exercise such power over you. That's one benefit of a man who trains himself with the anti premarital sex policy. Where is her power ?

Jozzy4 , don't tell me you expect him to outrightly say his OGAS are wrong , , he has already Told you They are wrong Below.

achorladey:
Something similar to the below in parenthesis have been emphasised repeatedly over the course of three to four pages on the thread . If that's the case. I wouldn't say I have contributed to the
post as well. I will stick to what I said previously concerning reading more into "UNLESS YOU EAT"

His own opinion is in parenthesis below as indicated above. For him its spiritual eating , he doesn't agree with the trash of those two guys u mention .

(But the words design a spiritual eating of Christ by faith. To eat the flesh, and drink the blood of Christ, is to believe that Christ is come in the flesh, and is truly and really man; that his flesh is given for the life of his people, and his blood is shed for their sins)

Its all right , don't mind Jozzy4 . how can he expect u to outrightly say they are wrong when you have indicated it already .

shadeyinka:
1. The Rich Man's Physical body was in the grave
Luk 16:22:
"And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;"
BUT

You omit the fact that Lazarus wasn't buried ?

Your point is baseless. He was carried bodily by angels.

So the point still stands that if hell exist, physical body should go there

The Rich mans Spiritual Body was in Hell
Luk 16:23:

No one has a spiritual body NOW!!! Until ressurection

This is what I called lies, but you will say its insult.

Read 1 Corinthian 15:44

" it is sown a physical body, it is raised up a spiritual body "

Has the ressurection occur ?

" What is spiritual is not first, what is physical is first, AFTERWARD what is spiritual " 1 Cor 15:46

Has the ressurection occur.

the spiritual body idea is dead on arrival

"And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and sees Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom."

2. What is tongue and water doing in hell?
The physical is just a copy of what exists in the spiritual

Rev 20:1: "And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand."

Rev 20:11: "And I saw a great white throne , and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them."

Rev 21:10-13
: "And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, Having the glory of God: and her light was like to a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates."


Rev 22:1-2:
"And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the middle of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life , which bore twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations."

Here are some highlights of things that are supposed to be found exclusively on earth.

This doesn't relate
The man doesn't have a spiritual body yet, nothing like spiritual.

He Has a tongue. A tongue is flesh . and a spirit doesn't have flesh !!

Deal with it.

shadeyinka:

On: Explain how Abel can go to where Abraham is when he died ?

The fact that Adam or Abel wasn't mentioned does not preclude them. Abraham was used because we know as a fact that Abraham is "the Father of Faith".
Hebrew 11 give us a small list even before Abraham

Heb 11:4:
"By faith Abel offered to God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaks."

According to the rich man story, the righteous go to Abraham bosom. UNLESS you mean the story isn't real or a parable meaning something different from what its said , how then can Abel die and go to the bosom of a man not yet born ?

[quote]Luk 23:42-43:
"And he said to Jesus, Lord, remember me when you come into your kingdom. And Jesus said to him, Truly I say to you, To day shall you be with me in paradise."

This is the place Jesus was speaking about. Where the righteous stay while awaiting Physical/Bodily Resurection!

1. Do you think Jesus was speaking untruth by using the word "today!"?
2. Does it make any sense that the paradise Jesus was speaking about is none other than the grave?

Jesus spirit return to his Father that day . when did he go to Paradise ?

On: If you insist what hell release are spirits and souls, are you saying Soul dies ?
The Physical Grave is where Physical Bodies are kept after death
Hell (Before Resurrection) is the place where the souls of unrighteous souls are kept after death?


This hell is a "prison" where the unrighteous souls are kept till the final judgement day

The soul never goes into a state of inexistence!

This interpretation Is not right. Revelation 20:13 said Hell release " Dead " not " Living immortal souls " .

There Is a difference.

shadeyinka:
Mat 5:22:
"But I say to you, That whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whoever shall say, You fool, shall be in danger of hell fire . "

Mat 18:9:
"And if your eye offend you, pluck it out, and cast it from you: it is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire ."

Mar 9:45:
"And if your foot offend you, cut it off: it is better for you to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:"


Please from the Scriptures above, justify that hell is just a mere grave!??

Read the above verses from NWT or other translation that didn't use the word hell . Then you will wake up from your delusion.

Hell is Grave . compare the below and be enlightened

NLT


" The sea gave up its dead, and death and the grave gave up their dead. "

"
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: " KJB

" The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and Death and the Grave gave up the dead that were in them " CEB



Hell=Grave.

I actually asked you since you think Hell at Rev 20:13 is fire, How can Hell release Dead Souls ? Are those in hell not said to possess physical bodes too ?

shadeyinka:
I asked you a question:
Did Jesus ever mentioned even once about the Lake of Fire?

Mentioned hell . now those texts say BODY goes to hell, do you agree ?

shadeyinka:
I always answer your questions BUT you don't answer mine, only for you to counter-ask another question.

Please go back and answer my question, then I'll answer yours:

You are the first to quote Matthew 10:28 and rich man story . Justify yourself

My question was:
Please from the Scriptures above, justify that hell is just a mere grave!??

It mentions BODY parts , do you agree body goes to hell ?

shadeyinka:
I guess I should ask you the Question I asked Maximus:
1. What is death?
2. How many kinds of death did the scripture describe?

Only after that can we discuss from the same bearing!

Shhhhh , sea release the dead means what ? You said physically dead bodies. That means dead in this case is opposite of life.

So with regard to Rev 20:13, what are the " dead " in hell ?

shadeyinka:
Mat 5:22:
"But I say to you, That whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whoever shall say, You fool, shall be in danger of hell fire . "

Mat 18:9:
"And if your eye offend you, pluck it out, and cast it from you: it is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire ."

Mar 9:45:
"And if your foot offend you, cut it off: it is better for you to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:"


Please from the Scriptures above, justify that hell is just a mere grave!??

Now you agree its hell not lake of fire, but once Matthew 10:28 is quote you Sing another song


Okay, if the above justify physical body in hell, Eyes, Foot , hands ... Are u now ready to explain Body and soul in Hell ?

shadeyinka:
You had corrected him and that's where I'll want it to lie.

I thought the thread was closed until he came up until CAPTIVATOR and Barristter07 came up with insulting words like LIE, LIAR and insisting on statements without any biblical justifications. I didn't find them different from when you engage atheists on NL threads.

You know me: if they behave, it can be a discussion!
Thanks again (because I saw you had called one of them to order)

Who insults you ?

Liar is not an insult ... Unless you didn't lie

Okay sorry. Questions still stands

Matt 10:28 is a statement with biblical justification . needs to be solved