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nutarious:
Stop equating gods to God

And point of correction, the Bible was written in both Aramiac, Hebrew and then new testament written in Greek.

Moses wrote all his epistles in Hebrew his language as of time he wrote it, other prophets wrote Aramiac and the new testament was written in Greek so it's wrong that the Bible was only written only in Greek.

Just know That that statement equating gods to God is blasphemous.

Do more research.

I NEVER EQUATE GOD with gods !

Am only telling you that the greek scriptures was directly written in same letters.... No differenciation of "g" from "G" .

Its left for an english translator to do the needful .

bingbagbo:
"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils." -1st Timothy 4:1

Thank you !

One of such devil doctrine is that doctrine that said Jesus is his own Father , and that he was a lier when he said " Father IS greater than I" whereas he is that same father ,

that he was a lier when he said " I am going to the Father" whereas he is going to himself not any father .... This doctrine that repeatedly make Jesus a lier is indeed directly from the devil .

nutarious:
U saying what suites y cos u don't wanna let go a doctrine and a belief that's wrong.

All translation of the Bible differentiate gods from Gods

All dictionary separates gods from Gods

U mean ur own research is current and real than the Bible translators and also dictionary meaning researchers

Also, if ur research says gods is same as Gods then of course they will be same and same class, u will never be able to tell anyone which is greater BTW ur gods lol.

Why will the creator of gods also be called god, u are entitled to Ur belief but don't come on social media to repeat this blasphemous statement.

Xtian reading this, God is dift from God, he quoted 1 cor 8 =5-6, here the Bible said gods but he change it to mean Gods =isn't that blasphemous? U change a bible script to suite ur argument.

Nha u know oooooo oooooo

Calm down, .... Was the bible written in Greek or english ?

nutarious:
Stop blasphemy now, gods is dift from Gods. It's gods there where u quoted and not Gods. Except u mean Sango and God are same.

Remember The word of the Lord said condemned is he who removed or add to his scripture.

There is only 1 God and no other,. Now this 1 God has 3 DIMENSIONS IN HIM


JUST LIKE U TOO HAS A SPIRIT, BODY AND SOUL, thus this make u 3 humans. It only made u 3 in 1.......


Don't ever equate gods with God........................

He created gods and all ftins but nobody created him and their is none and will never be like him. A prayer in holy spirit, a prayer in Jesus name or a prayer to God the Father is same and it is same source.


Thanks

oUr english translators differentiate "g" from "G"
Do ur research , original Greek has no such style . ALL HAVE SAME LETTERING !

Hiswordxray:
Your statement is also unscriptural because Christians worship only one God not two.

' FOR THOUGH THERE ARE MANY GODS , .. FOR US , THERE IS ONE GOD, THE FATHER ' - 1 COR 8:5,6 .

bingbagbo:
stop lying....the word there is god not GOD , they are not the same

Wake up ! English is different from greek .

So you are also ignorant of the fact that there is no "g" and "G" diffrenciation in the original greek . For ur info ALL HAVE SAME LETTERING . Research more .

johnw74:
Us Christians unlike the jw sect believe that God is "the" One God, not "a" god of which there are many false gods.

Mar_12:32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

So God and the Word are One God,
not God and a god as jw falsely dictate.

Remove the logs from ur eyes first , GENTLEMAN.
U just point fingers as if u know it all whereas you have been seriously deceived .

If the statement " a god" is wrong , why did your translators employ and used it in Act 28:6? Explain pls

Hiswordxray:
God called Jesus God because they are one God.

Ur statement is UNscriptural

- God and Jesus are never called " one God"

- the term "ONE GOD" belongs exclusively to the FATHER, the origin of all things ! 1 cor 8:5,6 .

- The Father also called humans " GODS" ( psalm 82:5,6 ; john 10:34,35) , does that mean humans are one God with him since they are called God ? Nonsense

- the Father inspire Apostle paul to call Satan " The GOD" of the world 2 cor 4:4 , does it mean satan is a part of him ?

Hiswordxray:
"Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood." (Act 20:28)

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JB reads: “Be on your guard for yourselves and for
all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you
the overseers, to feed the Church of God which he
bought with his own blood.” (KJ, Dy, NAB use
similar wording.)

However, in NW the latter part of
the verse reads: “the blood of his own
[Son].” (TEV reads similarly. Although the 1953
printing of RS reads “with his own blood,” the 1971
Edition reads “with the blood of his own Son.” Ro
and Da simply read “the blood of his own.”)


YOUR X-RAY IS NOT WORKING, if its working you would have examined Which rendering(s) agree with 1 John 1:7, which
says: “The blood of Jesus his [God’s] Son
Cleanses us from all sin”? ( See also
Revelation
1:4-6 .) As stated in John 3:16, did God send his
only-begotten Son, or did he himself come as a
man, so that we might have life? It was the blood,
not of God, but of his Son that was poured out.

Maamin:
1 In the beginning was the Word(Jesus), and the Word(Jesus) was with God(Yahweh), and the Word(Jesus) was God.

Hope this should make it very clear for you..emphasis on the word "with".

Thank you bro , John himself is not stupid , HE REPEAT IN VERSE 2 " this one was in the beginning WITH God" John 1:2 emphasis on " WITH" again

johnw74:
The Word (God) who is equal with God (John 1:1), lowered Himself and became man, the Son of God, for a purpose, and was obedient to God unto death.

MR MAN, not just until death .. Christ is in heaven when that scripture was written . God is still his head.
And dont u read that the son will forever be subjected under the authority of his God and Father ( 1 cor 15:24-28) ?


The different between me and you is that , in ur own case , u dont employ ur brain .... U absorb trash , hook line and sinker ! You dont apply logical explanation , and u dont even understand what u ar saying , answer this : If God the Father AND Jesus are one God, Why Didnt The Father also die when Jesus died for three days if they are ? Or ar they not one God again ?

BUT FOR ME , I follow the footstep of the apostles , THEY dont just quote scriptures ... They apply logical reasoning , yes they " REASONING From the scriptures" Act 17:2

Hiswordxray:
The Bible also mentioned two people(i.e Adam and Eve) and said they are one flesh.
So is the Bible foolish?

WAKE UP! They are" One Flesh" because of sexual intercourse , ... Thats why anyone havin sex with a prostitute is also one flesh with her ! Hop u get it . 1 cor 6:16

When it comes to sex , the husband owns the wife's body , and the wife owns the husband body 1 cor 7: 1, 4

Hiswordxray:
OK let me agree with you for now on this.
[s]Now the verse says Jesus was God even before he became flesh. But you people say Jesus became a God after he accomplished redemption for us.
So which is correct? [/s]

LISTEN , we have both agreed that Jesus is a God

Before anything , answer this , Do u agree with this unbiased and correctly translated statement in all translations that .. Christ has a God that heads him ? 1 cor 11:3

bingbagbo:
John 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Philip asked just as u also ask.....and JESUS replied in John 14:9 " 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?


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Ur logic fails woefully !
If u think that verse says Jesus is the Father , then there is another problem for you in verse 28 " FATHER IS GREATER than I" .... can he be the Father and yet that same Father is greater than him ?

bingbagbo:
Who is the father?...well, read

JOHN 14:8

GOD BLESS YOU!!!

Am not a primary school kid okay , I saw 2 names mentioned , " his ( Jesus) name and the name of HIS FATHER" clearly written in Rev 14:1 , answer me who is His Father ?

bingbagbo:
1 peter 1:1

END OF DISCUSSION!!!!!!!!!!

MODALISM PREACHER , I read this in revelation 14:1 'they have his ( Jesus) name and the name of HIS FATHER written on their foreheads' ! Who is his father ?

Hiswordxray:
John 1:1 didn't say Jesus is a God.
" In the beginning was the Word, and the
Word was with God, and the Word was God."

It said the Word was God. It didn't add "a" behind the "God". You people are adding things into the Bible.

So, you are soo ignorant to this extent ... The use of " a" is supplied by all Bible Translator to make the greek text easily read and understand in english . Show me a bible translation that didnt use the article "a" at all in it translation from Matthew To Revelation ?

An example is this :

John 4:23 reads literally " God is spirit "

MANY translations say " God is a spirit"
Ar they wrong ? Ur case is indeed special, Dont continue in religious ignorance .


ONE MORE EXAMPLE :

Act 28:6 literally it reads " thought he was GOD" ( do u even know there is no capital -small letter diferenciation in the original greek)

But bible translations say " thought he was a GOD (god)"

Many rantings from so - called christians here

The christian concept of IMMORTAL SOUL IS ENOUGH TO SHOW THAT JESUS DEATH IS USELESS .... Since Abraham, Noah, Moses have all gone to heaven without Jesus dyin for sin , then his death is USELESS .





BUT if what Jesus death accomplish is to Ressurect Billions of our dead loved ones back to life in the nearest future .. Then that shows we need to be grateful to God and Jesus himself for saving us from our Adamic inherited enemy, death and givin mankind a bright hope .

johnw74:
Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

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So, even if am not a christian ... You will quote this kind of poor translation for me , I SHOULD LET THIS MIND BE IN ME ..... THAT I SHOULD ALSO THOUGHT IT NOT ROBERY TO BE EQUAL WITH GOD . Which means If I Said am equal with God, Am Very Right Since thats the same mind in Jesus Christ ..... Am sure this ur doctrine is 100% directly from Satan Himself .

John 1:1 says He is equal with God.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

That Scripture Never said they are equal. That humans are 'GODS' never mean they are equal with God , Does It ?

We both agree that Jesus is a God .

But u ignore the part that said " the word was WITH God" , he was with someone ? The God , but do u agree that "this God is head of Christ"1 Cor 11:3 ?

Thinkin of getting a play station 2 , whats the current market price ?

Hiswordxray:
Before you start accusing me of adding meaning to a verse, let me quote that verse directly from the New King James Version:
"Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
Now can you see the the "I AM" is written in capital letters?

STOP this heresy

Woman: who is at the door ?

Me : I AM

So since have answred with the english word " I AM" it means I am God himself ?


Listen to rikoduosennin , the discussion is based on Jesus AGE , which the pharisees estimated below 50 " You are not yet 50 years old, and still you have seen Abraham" Joh 8:57 while Jesus tried to show them that he has been in existence before Abraham " Most truly I say to you, before Abraham came into existence , I have been " Joh 8:58 . Which means their below 50 estimate is wrong .

Hiswordxray:
Where in the Bible can you find the bold?

He only quotes " one in purpose"

It appears in the bible in 1 Cor 3:6-8 , Paul and Apollo are one simply means they are "one in purpose" !

AM SURE U WONT ANSWER THIS QUESTION HE ASKED , Coz It Will Expose You: let me repost

" does the fact that Jesus said all his followers should be ONE means they are part of a Godhead ? "

Hiswordxray:
If I had point out Cantiles ignorance he won't see it because he is blind. This is the reason I tried to open his eye first before showing him his ignorance. But he ran away just like you did.

Children of darkness always run away from the light.
But the light won't hurt you my dear, simply come to the light and you would find peace.

Do u know u are clueless ? Let me open ur diary once again.

U asked " show me where worship is used for any human" ?

Am very happy canticles with Jehovah's help close ur mouth once and for all , when he brilliantly answered that question by citing that scripture .

dolphinheart:
I've answered you in the other thread and here. I'm not like you who can't answer questions. Check page 4 , 9.21PM , March 26.
Now pls pls pls ,answer my questions ? We have derailed the thread long enough.
(Explain Gen 3:19)

Dolphinheart ... Just leave that guy , he claim he isnt catholic , but yet he is one of those children given birth to by the Catholic Church to adopt trinity and thus automaticaly worship Mary as Godmother. Which was the primary reason for adopting trinity

His deluded personalty can be easily felt when he called Cantiles scriptural explanations " Ignorance" and when Canticles asked him : Show me the ignorance in the posts , he replied " dont worry" he couldnt point at any . He is Just an attention seeker

paulGrundy:
You are beginning to have a reputation for insolence, I want to believe that you do not want this your handle to end up like your other handle BERNIMORE. So tell was Jesus' appearance to Saul later apostle Paul symbolic? Acts 23:11, acts 9. Or was it his look-like that paul saw?.

Do yourself a favour research biblical articles outside Awake! Watchtower and NWT of the bible. It will broaden your scriptural knowledge.

1 tim 6:16 says Jesus " Dwells in UNAPPROACHABLE LIGHT" , so what cause Saul (paul)'s Blindness In Act 9 ?

YOU NEED SERIOUS BIBLE STUDY

paulGrundy:
Read your Bible well.

Revelation 1:7

Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Confuse Man ... I gave a scripture , u counter with another , tellin me that scripture contradict itself .

But it doesnt , ur already fabricated mind failed to realize the symbolism in Rev 1:1, 7 , " and every eye shall see him, they which also pierce him " !
U failed to realize the following:

- this event is FUTURE (REV 1:1)

- THE ROMAN SOLDIERs that pierce Jesus have died long time ago . Their seeing him is thus symbolic

- comin with clouds showed that he wont be literally visible to the eyes , dont let this fact escape ur notice " No man can see Jesus again in his heavenly glory, he now lives in unpproachable lights : read 1tim 6:16 and let it tutor you

Hiswordxray:
It didn't contradict 1cor 8:6 nor 1per 1:2. But instead it compliment them.

If you don't understand how, ask questions instead of displaying your ignorance.

Good, briefly Explain hw such renderin did not contradict 1cor 8:6 and 2pet 1:2 ?

Hiswordxray:
It didn't contradict 1cor 8:6 nor 1per 1:2. But instead it compliment them.

If you don't understand how, ask questions instead of displaying your ignorance.

Good, Explain hw such renderin didnt contradict 1cor 8:6 and 1pet 1:2 ?

Hiswordxray:
Exactly,
That verse was quoted from KJV and if it is not correct then the verse below is also not correct.

2pet 1:2 shows that ur above opinion is FLAWED

"1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:" (2Pet 1:1 KJV)

So why not seek for a better translation, like this one:
""This letter is from Simon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ. I am writing to you who share the same precious faith we have. This faith was g

Before you point fingers at their rendering at 2pet 1:1 , remember Canticles showed u hw some version translate WORSHIP ( proskuneo) differently, they use worship in a case and in the case of an human king they render it postrate or kneel. imagine

NLT rendering contradict 1 cor 8:6
And Peters next statement in 1pet 1:2

Hiswordxray:
You have been trying to escape my questions since.
Failure to answer this proves that you are always twisting the Bible, you are not interested in the truth and you only seek to promote your doctrine which is not Biblical.

"3 Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;" (1The 1:3)

Which of this two statement can be correctly deduced from this verse?

1) God and Our Father are the same.

2) God and our Father are different.

AM HAPPY ... YOU HAVE PROVED that u belong to myths and fabrications !

MY DEFENCE :

The contruction of that statement gives the impression that God is different from our father ! Thus that rendering is NOT correct its against 1cor 8:6 .

Who told them its the face of Jesus ?


" the world will see me no more" John 14:19

Hiswordxray:
"3 Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;" (1The 1:3)

Which of this two statement can be correctly deduced from this verse?

1) God and Our Father are the same.

2) God and our Father are different.

ALL this have been addressed !

Failure to answer my own question will prove that you are swimmin in the lies, fabrication and myths which was handed over to you by your RELIGIOUS MOTHER, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

WHICH OF THESE STATEMENT DO U BELIVE
Apostles :
" FOR US there is One God , The Father

OR

Catholic and protestants :
" FOR US, there is One God, The Trinity"