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vooks:YOUR question makes no sense , nobody is alive 2000 years ago! But all over the world , the structure of the male hair is ALWAYS different from the female which is always long due to their desire to style their hairs . Even Nazirite that kept it long like a woman are commanded to shave it off once the Nazirit vow days are over . NATURE doesnt permit men to keep long hairs ( 1 Cor 11:14) |
vooks:Jesus look like every other jew, thats why he could hide among the crowds and walk with his apostles without being spotted ( Joh 8:59) ( about your question) OPEN YOUR EYES .... This account is "captivator " NOT watchtower **** Lupita Nyongo's hair is masculine . The pictures below explains it all
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Jameselias:This got me laughing, You are very right . |
vest:Samson is a nazirite . IS CHRIST UNDER A NAZIRITE VOW ? A Nazirite is prohibited from drinking wine , or touching a dead person ( Num 6: 2-3,6) [size=22pt] CONTRARY TO THIS : Christ drink wine Matt (11:19) , on one occassion he touched a dead person ( Mat 9:25) [/size] THEREFORE, Christ is not under a Nazirite vow ABOVE ALL ...... Even After the days of nazirite vow is ended, such a person should shave such shameful long hair off ( Num 6:18) |
vooks:1 cor 11:15 explains that long hair refers to a feminine hair .... Tell me u are a liar by pointin it that the pics of Jesus in d orginal post doesnt have a feminine hair |
paulGrundy:NATURE itself teach you that if a man has a long hair , its a disgrace to him. 1 cor 11:14 NOTICE: NATURE ! NATURE itself teach, NATURE.... Lols, ur argument is broke. Up till dis moment , any man that has long hairs like a female is viewed as thug , CAN YOU ATTEND AN INTERVIEW with a long hairs, or a weird long haircut ?? YES jesus kept beards.So u agree ? , why are u now shoutin when the book u quote says Jesus kept beards .... Learn to analyse things before u scream |
paulGrundy:Ur words always make me laugh .... Honestly speakin, u are confuse The op is talkin about long hairs usin 1 cor 11:14 WHICH U CANT DISPUTE, to prove those pictures as false .... So what does long hairs got to do with beard ?? Imagine u quotin somethin written in 1968 for me in 2015 , LET ME EXPOSE UR IGNORANCE . DO U AGREE WITH ME THAT JESUS HAVE A BEARD as the rest of the Jews ?? |
Papist:Its dogmatic ...... The same principle was also followed in the movie " passion of Christ" !!! 1 Cor 11:14 Disqualifies All ur artwork that always portray Jesus as havin a long hair. THEY ARE FALSE PICTURES Influenced by paganism
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The Error of the Long-haired Jesus One of the biggest errors Hollywood has made is in their depiction of Jesus while he was teaching here on earth. The error comes because the preachers, priests and theologians have themselves accepted a false type of Jesus that nowhere resembles the true Jesus who is described in the New Testament. The images of Jesus that Christians have in their churches, homes, Bibles, Sunday School or Sabbath School books are those which have the outward features of the chief pagan gods of the heathen world . If the apostles could come back to life and visit our churches, enter our homes, and see our movies about Jesus, they would be aghast at witnessing Jesus being portrayed like the chief gods of the heathen world. In the fourth century it became common for many Gentile peoples throughout the Roman Empire (who had long worshiped pagan gods and goddesses) to begin identifying their deities of old with the newly honored Jesus, Mary, and the “twelve apostles” (plus other saints of the Old and New Testaments). One particular deity that seemed to blend together the attributes of several gods into a unified portrayal of deity was the Egyptian god “Sarapis.” This god had been famous for 600 years in Egypt and now his worship was found all over the Roman Empire. He was equated with the Greek Zeus (the chief god over all other gods) along with Asclepius (the god of healing). Professor Everett Ferguson in his excellent work titledBackgrounds of Early Christianityshows an example that the statues of Asclepius (the pagan god of healing) were images"that imitated Zeus and that his portraiture influenced artists in depictingboth Sarapis[the Egyptian Zeus]and Christ"(p.114). Remarkably, the pagan god Sarapis of the fourth century appeared very much like what Christians (from the time of Constantine onwards) began to depict as their “Jesus.” At that time the people began to abandon all of the early depictions of Christ made in the previous hundred years or so (which showed ‘Jesus normally as young, beardless and with hair like ordinary men—not with long flowing feminine type of hair). But now, with Constantine, the people began to want “Jesus” to appear like the pagan gods, so they selected the model of Zeus after the Egyptian rendition of Sarapis (the Egyptian Zeus) to be their new “Jesus.” What they actually did was to change the name of “Zeus” (Sarapis) into “Jesus.” The people kept on worshiping Zeus (Sarapis) but they now called him “Jesus.” Note the picture of Sarapis below. Sarapis With the time of Constantine a new type of JESUS began to be portrayed among the Christian population of the Roman Empire. They took the style of grooming which was typical of the pagan gods and adopted it as their “JESUS.” The above drawing is from a bust in the British Museum of Sarapis, the Egyptian version of Zeus (the chief of the Gentile gods). See reference Harper’sDictionary of Classical Literature and Antiquities, article, “Coma.” Note what the scripture itself said in 1cor 11:14 about the long hair! New International Version 1 cor 11:14 Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, Source: http:// www.askelm.com/secrets/sec103.html
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Emusan:LIE ! The name " Jehovah" appeared more than 6000 times in the original hebrew scriptures before dubious enemies of our Father Jehovah, replace it with the title " LORD" OR ar u sayin Father Jehovah appeared physically to humans ? " No one has seen God at anytime" 1 Joh 4:12 ! "No man has seen the Father " Joh 6:46 ACT 7:38 and 53 explains what make the above scriptures correct. The lie, you purposely wrote Angel (singular) but what appear in the verse is Angels (Plural)what appeared in the verse is Angels BUT I didnt quote the verse ( " " ), I only make a reference to it so as to bring out a point, the point is that Isrealite received the law as transmitted through "Angels" Act 7:53. So how many Angels gave the law?( Act 7:53 says nothing about their numbers) just Sit down there, an angel will come and tell you. So you agree that the Hebrew scripture says it is Jehovah who created everythingYES ! The greek scriptures now support it with the details " God ( Father Jehovah) made the universe " HEB 1:1,2 CREDITED. Another detail is that this was done " through his son (Jesus Christ ) " Heb 1:1,2 You can only quote Ecc 12:1 whereas we have many places which spoke more than that,Isa 43:15-21,22 is directed to the only people serving Father Jehovah and Whom he repurchased for himself on earth as at that time, the house of Isreal. This is diffrent from Father Jehovah creating the universe for his own beloved Son. Heb 1:1,2 Isa 44:24 "... I am Jehovah, that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens ALONE, that spreadeth abroad the earth (who is with me?) ASVFather Jehovah claimed to create everything, because its by his WILL that they were made. Rev 4:11! And Jesus Christ always do NOT his own will BUT the Will Of the Father ( Joh 6:38, Luke 22:42). For example, scripture again says Father Jehovah destroyed Sodom and Gomorah ( 2pet 2:6, Jude 5-7) BUT it was two angels whom he sent that actually destroyed it ( Gen 19: 12,13) . THE ANGELS ARE CARRYING OUT not their will but THE WILL OF THE MOST HIGH, JEHOVAH. ( Gen 19:13) The question " who was with me? " is not directed to heavenly creatures BUT to the repurchased house of Jacob ! ( Check verse 23,24) You quote John 6:38 where Jesus was supposed to be speaking about HIMSELF ALONE and you can still apply it to the Angel in the OTEveryone know Angels Carry out the WILL of the Father Jehovah ( compare Gen 19:13). Joh 6:38 also make reference to Jesus doing NOT His own will BUT the Will of the Father JESUS URGE US TO IMITATE HIM IN "DOING THE WILL OF HIS FATHER IN HEAVEN" MATT 7:21 TWO DISTINCT PERSONS but ONE CREATORIllustration: As a boss, if I wrote a letter to another person through my intelligent secretary, who will the person said wrote the letter ? ME, but the letter was written through my secretary. Illustratin 2: God wrote the bible THROUGH Men ...... Who made the bible ? God , but it was done through men . Therefore, Father Jehovah retains the title of " CREATOR" , " God ( Father Jehovah) made the universe" Heb 1:1,2 but just as he wrote the bibe through men ...... He made the universe " through his son" . Back to my question, can the LIVING word of God be created?WHEN Father in the heavens said that: " this is my son, the beloved, whom I have chosen" Matt 3:17, are u tellin me that these statement is actually Jesus Christ ? Lol .... Remember another Jesus is also gettin baptized at that moment. So when christians call the bible "the word of God" ...... It means the bible is actually Jesus christ. Go and do more research. QUESTION: WAS JESUS Christ Created?? ANSWER: YES! WHY: I was born by virtue of creation, but of all things that came into existence by creation, Jesus is the "first - BORN OF ALL CREATION " Col 1:15. The first Born IS NOT the source of a persons procreative power, BUT scriptural definition: ' Firstborn ..... beginning of a person's pro creative power ' Genesis 49:3 ! REALLY ? ' Jesus is the beginning of THE CREATION by God' Rev 3:14 |
PastorOluT:do u just call it "life" ? Yes it is the " BREATH of LIFE" we receiv from God into our NOSTRILS (Gen 2:7). Now this is different from that of other creaturesNOT different, Scriptures said "man and beast have SAME spirit ' Ecc 3:19 Cos none was created in the image of God. Maybe u should do a little study on the image of God?Image of God doesnt mean God looks like a male human or that God look like Eve ( FEMALE) ........ While animals act on instinct , programmed to do a particular thing e.g cow will always make " mooo" sound BUT as humans, we are created in Gods image because we are INTELLIGENT CREATURES who exhibit the lovely character of our creator e.g ability to love, show compassion, kindness and imitate his creator ( while our creator create birds, intelligent humans imitate him and produce an Aeroplane). Intelligent Creatures 2 Not really but it definitely came as a result of the breath of life.they are same, the breath of life is the " SPIRIT in our NOSTRILS" Job 27:3, 32:8 The breath of life brought about the spirit of manthey are same, " it is the spirit in people, The breath of the Almighty that gives them understanding" Job 32:8. he became consciuos having a soulAdam didnt have a soul and wasnt given a soul , RATHER he " became a living soul " and when he died ... He became a "dead soul" Num 6:6, he didnt ascend to heaven ( joh 3:13) but became as lifeless at the dust from which he was taken ( Gen 3:19) (the faculty of reasoning. Emotion and will)This is the work of our central processing unit, THE BRAIN ..... ( thats why nobody wish to become Mad ) 3 Obviously no, animals do not possess spirit cos though they were created by the breath, the breath only make them to become conscious and have soul bt not spirit.Animals have spirit, there is the " Spirit of animals" Ecc 9:21 4 Yes animals also possess the breath of life according to the scriptures.Of course .... Animals have spirit, in other words they have the breath of life ( Gen 7:15,22) 5 Their returning to God doesnt mean to Heavenyes ... That is why King David is still in the grave ( Act 2:29,34; psalm 6:5, Psalm 115:17) remember all would stand judgment before God, so do all men not ultimately return to God?do u think its a literal standing? No, everything on earth is automatically before God, as am typing right now and another person is viewing We are both standing before God, Who sees all things ( compare Exodus 16:9) INFACT if its literal ....the Millions of humans that died before Jesus came to earth will have went to God in heaven, DID THEY ? NO (Joh 3:13) . This is the judgement been reffered to: ' because God have SET A DAY on which he purposes to judge the inhabited EARTH in Righteousness ' - Act 17:31 , "set a day" reveal its still future, after the ressurection of the dead from the grave ( john 5:28,29). " for when there are judgements from God for the EARTH. The inhabitants of the land learn about righteousness ' - ISA 26:9 6 Smile, this one sound so funny But surely I will not be biased to the context that was said (meaning physical death). Obviously men of old were limited in the world beyond, so not knowing wether the dead praise God or not.did they wrote with their knowledge ? those men were INSPIRED BY GOD ...... Or are u sayin God dont know what he is saying ? While psalm 115:17 says " the dead do not praise God!" .... Psalm 6:5 explains similarly ' for in death, there is no mention of God; In the grave, who will praise you ? ' 7. I cant claim to possess knowledge to allI RESPECT your humility in this regard ........ The statement that led to my question is " father, into your hands I commend my spirit" Luke 23:46 ! Does that mean he went to heaven that day ? He address " THE FATHER" , is the father not living in heaven ? So did Jesus journey to heaven immeditly he died? NO! , So I cherish your answer that says " after his ressurection he was yet to reveal himself to the father" ..... Also before his Ressurection, Jesus was in d grave for three days and three nights ( matt 12:40) ! Which support the scripture that says " as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all ......for there is no knowledge nor wisdom nor work in the Grave where you are going" Ecc 9:5,10. ( NOTE: there are some fabrications in the insertion of the english comma sign in Luke 23:43 and thats a different topic ) |
Emusan:MODALISM says " Jehovah Of old testament is the same Jesus of new testament" ! OPEN UR EYES AND SEE HOW UV JOINED THE MODALISM LEAGUE RikoduosenninHttp: www.nairaland.com/post/30061259 Imagine that question, AND to confirm ur modalism case, u replied POSITIVELY. SAYING : EmusanHttp: www.nairaland.com/post/30106891 PROVED ! But to make urself appear as a trinitarian despite the fact that uv just proved modalism, u quickly added the phrase . You can only get confused when you think Yahweh is ONLY the Father. Http: www.nairaland.com/post/30106891 WHICH is also FALSE ...... " That people May Know that YOU, Whose NAME is Jehovah , YOU ALONE is the MOST HIGH over all the earth" psalm 83:18. THE FATHER ALONE is called "JEHOVAH ( YAHWEH)" " You ALONE" psalm 83:18 " You ALONE" Psalm 83:18 " You ALONE" psalm 83:18 Is Jesus the Most High ? " HE SHALL be Called SON OF the most high " Luke 1:32 ! NOT MOST HIGH but SON OF INFACT: ANYONE MOST HIGH never have a God he is sujected under , whereas Christ will forever be subjected under the authority of THE MOST HIGH JEHOVAH, the God AND the FATHER of Christ ( 1 COR 15: 24, 28, Eph 1:3) |
@ Emusan ..... MODALISM PREACHER, u are here again with ur twisted arguments , answerin questions with a question as usual . LISTEN The book of EXODUS told us that Jehovah gave the law directly to Moses ( Exodus 20:1) But further EVIDENCE reveal that this was done through an Angel ( Act 7:53) . WHILE the creation account told us that Jehovah God creates the world ( Ecc 12:1) ..........Further EVIDENCE reveal that this was done " [b]Through his Son" Heb 1:1,2 [/b] BOTH the angel in d first instance , and the Son in the second instance are CARRYIN OUT THE WILL OF God,The FATHER (Joh 6:38) FACT BOX " God (JEHOVAH) made the universe Through his son (Jesus) " HEB 1:1,2 ! TWO DISTINCT PERSONS. |
DECOtech:Lol ... But this stuff is a tactic by this pastorpreneur ! Real business By the time he makes this statement to his congregation ..... Many young men who dont use their brain will come out for so- called " deliverance " or " spiritual bath" and the pastor will twist their ears and earn some CASH . Its just a PASTORPRENEUR BUSINESS PLAN. |
@ Op ..... Uv shown us how dubious you are ! Keep on dancing to fabrications Research reveal that MARK 16 : 9- 20 is a pure fabrication, this verses never existed in the reliable early manuscripts . They are spurious texts .... Imagine this: Mark 16:17,18 KJ " these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name ....... they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them" But let me expose ur ignorance a little. TELL ME WHY U SO-CALLED CHRISTIANS ARE NOT PRACTISING This ? |
armadeo:Thank you .... Its Just a religious propaganda , what they fail to understand is that , David didnt bury the skull of Goliath at mount Elah where he fought him, RATHER he took the head of Goliath with him to Jerusalem (1 Sam 17: 54 ) |
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ROSSIKE:Before you type that emotional outburst ..... Do u realize that when Adam died he " RETURN to the Ground" and became as lifeless as the dust from which he was taken - Read Genesis 3:19 . When Jesus died, he became unconscious ecc 9:5,10 ... JESUS Didnt possess an immortal soul that go to heaven immediately he died. as a matter of scriptures Jesus didnt ascend to heaven until 40 days after his RESSURECTION from the grave. ALL LIVINGS THINGS DIE .... DEATH IS DEATH. |
@ Rikoduosenin ....... Maintain your respect , the guy you are chattin with has already hit himself with a fork . , he doesnt believe in trinity ,he is preaching MODALISM , Jehovah of Hebrew Scriptures is the Jesus of Greek scriptures ! Forgeting that Jesus while on earth is a " REPRESENTATIVE FROM God" Joh 7:29 ! " I have not come of my own initiative ..... The one WHO SENT ME is Real" Joh 7:28 And the son Christ, will forever be subjected under the authority of JEHOVAH, HIS GOD AND FATHER , ...... 1 Cor 15: 24-28 |
HiswordxrayBrother - Have U forgotten that revelation is presented in " SIGNS" ?? REV 1:1,2 - HAVE u forgotten that the book of revelation describes " FUTURE EVENTS" ? REV 1:1,2 - HAVE u forgotten that the opening of the seven seals by the symbolic lamb is a future event ?? Rev 4:1 - Have u forgoten that the RED HORSE, WHITE HORSE , PALE HORSE, CROOK HORSE and other items on the seals are all symbolic ?? - have u forgotten that the lamb that open the seal is not a literal lamb but symbolizing a person ?? LISTEN to canticles . |
CHM11:Thanks bro .... Most people dont realize these truth , infact animals have this same spirit in them ( Ecc 3:19-21) , like an eletric force that activates a machine, its A force ( sustained by breathing) which activates life in ALL LIVIN THINGS. ( Gen 2:7, 7:15,22) |
So painful expecially that picture of the guy been lowered into the Grave . What about the emotional hole death will have create in the heart of their wives and children ... Death is mankinds enemy But this soldiers are not dead forever , I believe one day they will RISE again as a Livin person because God promised that "there is going to be a ressurection"- Act 24:15 ................. Am expectin the so- called religious folks to come around and tell us that this dead Soldiers are in the fictional hellfire empire -- Religion is a snare and a racket , a tool in Devils Hand . |
UrbanMystique:Lol ... What about the shadow of lions, dog , torchlight and cars !!! Peoples eyes are now opening to all these myths , praise God...... Daniel 12:4 have said it all , at the end time many of the lies of religion will be debunked . |
Proffdada:How does this answer the question I asked you ..... Prove it that you are a ghost in a machine called body , before that body was made , where do u as a ghost lived before you are born ?? .... Do u exist ?? STOP livin in myths " Man, born of woman , is Short - Lived" And filled with trouble. He comes up like a blossom and then withers away; he flees like a Shadow AND disappears - Job 14:1,2 STOP swimmin in lies and myths |
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