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Lateralmaths:
Salvation is a gift, not o prize to be won.

Its also a PRIZE , you have to run for it , ( 1cor 9:24) ,

MizJanet:
y'all are confused

Hello miss ... Honestly speaking u made sense from your observation at op but the truth is this :

At luke 23:46 , Jesus commend is spirit or breath into the fathers hand , this doesnt mean he was in heaven that day simply because the spirit in man and animals is the breath of life withing them ( Gen 2:7 , Job 32:8 ) . Thats the point


But Jesus himself is dead and was buried in the grave , where he spent three days ( matt 12:40) but on the thrid day , he was resurected , yes is breath of life was restored , and he once again became a LIVING BEING.


The misconception at op arise from the wrong notion that the spirit in man and animals is an immaetrial entity hangin on the walls of their body . Thats very wrong .

The creation of man says the ' ruach /breath or spirit/ of life was breathed into Adams Nostrils! Nostrils ' NOT fused inside his body . Genesis 2:7

@ ayoku777

Wow ! See twisting , fall into the hands doesnt mean philistines will kill Saul .

WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE GIVEN INTO THE HANDS OF ANOTHER:

" Siserah will fall into the hand of a woman" 1sam 4:9 simply means a woman will KILL HIM DEAD ( 1SAM 4:21)

MizJanet:
See contradiction, one bible say saul slain himself , another say na philistines slain am . Na wa o .

Miss ... There is no contradiction, the truth is that 3 persons are connected with saul's death

- Saul himself , ( he deliberately killed himself to avoid fallin into the hands of the philistines as foretold . Destroying the spiritmedium prophecy (1sam 31:4)

- the philistines slain saul , pls this is not a contradiction, they actuall slain him BUT THAT WAS AFTER HE HAD DIED . Here is the report

" the next day, when the philistines came to strip the slain, they found SAUL and his three sons fallen on mount Giboa, so they cut off his head ." 1sam 31: 8,9 thats it . They did but that was after he had slain himself .

- an Amalekite man also claimed to kill saul , though this was claerly a lie ( 2sam 1:3-16)

ayoku777:
Is it Samuel? What do you think? Who did the bible say it was?

The young girl with the spirit of divination that was following after the apostles. Did the bible say about her, "And "Moses or James" said, These men are the servants of the most high God"?

The bible will not call a spirit of divination by another name or call a familiar spirit Samuel. If it was not Samuel, the bible won't say it was.

Scriptures can be ambiguous with the truth. But the scriptures will never be specific with what is not true. Coz that would be a lie.

Scripture specifically called that person Samuel. Because that was Samuel.

That was the spirit of Samuel. Samuel was dead and buried in flesh, but his soul was alive and conscious in sheol

This stubborn refusal to agree that "death is not the cessation of existence" is really getting ridiculous.

1Peter 4v6 -For this cause was the gospel preached also to them THAT ARE DEAD, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.

If there is no consciousness of the human spirit after death, how can Jesus preach to them that are dead?

If their souls and spirit didn't stay alive, animate and conscious after death; how could they listen to, understand and respond to the gospel?

How was the gospel preached to those that are dead by Jesus if the spirit of the dead ceases to exist after death?

This attitude of adamant refusal is really ridiculous. Souls and spirits stay alive in sheol or heaven after death.

Hmmm

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1pet 4:6— Who were “the dead” to whom “the good news was
Declared”? These were ones who were ‘dead in their
trespasses and sins,’ or who were spiritually dead,
before they heard the good news. (
Eph. 2:1) After putting
faith in the good news, though, they began to “live”
spiritually.

Even here , the meaning of death is clear , after hearin the good news they cease the former way of life listed in verse 2 and 3 of 1peter chapter 4

WAS IT SAMUEL? .

@ ayoku777

In 1sam 25:1 we are told that samuel is DEAD and had been buried .

But before narating saul's ordeal with a spirit medium, we are told for the second time.

1sam 28:3 " NOW samuel had died, and all isreal had mourned him and had buried him (samuel) in ramah" .

This clears all doubt , and re inforce the fact that the real Samuel , the mouth pieice of God had died . " and as for the dead , they know nothing at all" ecc 9:5

" for there is no knowledge nor wisodom in sheo'l" ecc 9:10.

Clearly, what appears to saul with high knowledge about saul is clearly not samuel but a demon with a spirit of prediction (act 16:16) , interestingly saul himself didnt see, rather he only presume what appear to be samuel from description.


SAUL'S DEATH

A scripture said " when the philistines slain saul at Giboa" how ? Of course he was severely wounded by the philistines . 1sam 31:3

BIBLICAL INDEPTH ANALYSIS

" SAUL killed himself to avoid the philistines wrath " 1sam 31:4

@ ayoku777

- #smiles# dont dodge , YOU and I know that the word everlasting life denotes livin forever.

" the righteous shall possess the earth and they shall LIVE FOREVER ON IT" Psalm 37:29.

Thats why the bible call it a " Hope" Titus 1:2 , because for now, our lives is short (job 14:1)

" man , born of woman is SHORT - LIVED".

Yuo know this so well, but you misundertand Jesus statement in john17:3 as definition , whereas Jesus has earlier in his discussion with a man in luke 10:25-28 said " if you keep doing this , you will get life". Its somrthing to be get when we keep doing Gods will, its a gift from God . EVEN those whom Jesus is teachin knew its something to " inherited" luke 10:35

ayoku777

Did the Spirit of Jesus also cease to exist, during the
three days He was dead and buried? Or it was alive
and active?
That would answer your question on whether the soul
and spirits of the dead cease to exist once the body
is dead and buried.

No wonder , this is how you people turn christianity to mockery

Let me ask you: Did Jesus Die OR its only his flesh dat die while he himself neva dies ?

Which do you believe

Ayoku777

Go to John 17v3 to see the definition of eternal life.
John 17v3 -And this is life eternal, that they might
know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom
thou hast sent.
Eternal life is not merely living forever; demons will
live forever in the lake of fire.
According to Jesus, eternal life is the knowledge of
the Father and the Son. The knowledge that makes us
one in them. Like when Adam "knew" his wife, Eve.
This life was never automatically a part of us, we
Receive it only after receiving Christ through faith.
1John 5v10 -And this is the record, that God hath
given to us eternal life,
and this life is in His Son.
This life is only in Jesus, and only those in Jesus
have it. It is the life of the true knowledge of the
Father and the Son, that makes us one in them.
Eternal is not just living forever.

Scriptural perversion at its peak .

There are two options : gain eternal life or be destroyed ( john 3:16)

The greek word "aionios" translated eternal means " not ending, for a long time " check strongs concordance.

The greek word "apollumi" translated perish/destroy in john 3:16 means " to bring to ruin, to destroy utterly "

In john 17:3 , Jesus was stating the criteria for getting eternal life and thus avoid utterly destruction which is cutting off from life.


" Eternal life is a HOPE" Titus 1:2

It wasn't God speaking to Saul, it was Samuel
speaking to Saul. A medium conjured up the spirit of
Samuel with the power of the devil.

Just listen to yourself .

There was no false prediction. According to the
scriptures; it was the philistines that killed Saul.
2Samuel 21v12 -And David went and took the bones
of Saul and the bones of Jonathan his son from the
men of Jabesh-gilead, which had stolen them from the
Street of Beth-shan, where the Philistines hand hanged
them,
when the Philistines had slained Saul in Gilboa:
So whether Saul fell on his own sword or not,
according to the bible it was the philistines that killed
Saul.
So according to the bible, what Samuel told Saul
happened. There was no false prediction.

That was simply because he died in a conflict with the philistines . BUT we know Saul actually fell upon his Own Sword 1sam 31:1-7

What Saul consult is a familar spirit. demon

King James Bible
Then said Saul unto his servants, Seek
me a woman that hath a familiar spirit ,
That I may go to her, and inquire of her.
And his servants said to him, Behold,
There is a woman that hath a familiar
Spirit at Endor.


1 Chronicles 10:13-14 (NKJV)
So Saul died for his unfaithfulness which he
had committed against the LORD, because he
did not keep the word of the LORD, and also
because he consulted a medium for guidance.
But he did not inquire of the LORD ; therefore
He killed him, and turned the kingdom over to
David the son of Jesse.

Ayoku777

Go to John 17v3 to see the definition of eternal life.
John 17v3 -And this is life eternal, that they might
know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom
thou hast sent.
Eternal life is not merely living forever; demons will
live forever in the lake of fire.
According to Jesus, eternal life is the knowledge of
the Father and the Son. The knowledge that makes us
one in them. Like when Adam "knew" his wife, Eve.
This life was never automatically a part of us, we
Receive it only after receiving Christ through faith.
1John 5v10 -And this is the record, that God hath
given to us eternal life,
and this life is in His Son.
This life is only in Jesus, and only those in Jesus
have it. It is the life of the true knowledge of the
Father and the Son, that makes us one in them.
Eternal is not just living forever.

Scriptural perversion at its peak .

There are two options : gain eternal life or be destroyed ( john 3:16)

The greek word "aionios" translated eternal means " not ending, for a long time " check strongs concordance.

The greek word "apollumi" translated perish/destroy in john 3:16 means " to bring to ruin, to destroy utterly "

In john 17:3 , Jesus was stating the criteria for getting eternal life and thus avoid utterly destruction which is cutting off from life.


'eternal life is a HOPE' Titus 1:2

It wasn't God speaking to Saul, it was Samuel
speaking to Saul. A medium conjured up the spirit of
Samuel with the power of the devil.

Just listen to yourself .

There was no false prediction. According to the
scriptures; it was the philistines that killed Saul.
2Samuel 21v12 -And David went and took the bones
of Saul and the bones of Jonathan his son from the
men of Jabesh-gilead, which had stolen them from the
Street of Beth-shan, where the Philistines hand hanged
them,
when the Philistines had slained Saul in Gilboa:
So whether Saul fell on his own sword or not,
according to the bible it was the philistines that killed
Saul.
So according to the bible, what Samuel told Saul
happened. There was no false prediction.

That was simply because he died in a conflict with the philistines . BUT we know Saul actually fell upon his Own Sword 1sam 31:1-7

What Saul consult is a familar spirit. demon

King James Bible
Then said Saul unto his servants, Seek
me a woman that hath a familiar spirit ,
That I may go to her, and inquire of her.
And his servants said to him, Behold,
There is a woman that hath a familiar
Spirit at Endor.


1 Chronicles 10:13-14 (NKJV)
So Saul died for his unfaithfulness which he
had committed against the LORD, because he
did not keep the word of the LORD, and also
because he consulted a medium for guidance.
But he did not inquire of the LORD ; therefore
He killed him, and turned the kingdom over to
David the son of Jesse.

ayoku777:
No one is saying there are no symbols in scriptures. The scripture is full of symbolic texts, just as it is full of literal texts.

Scriptures are interpreted in 4 basic styles.

1. Literal texts
2. Symbolic texts
3. Contextual texts
4. Prophetic texts

These are the four hermeneutics of scriptures (styles of interpreting scriptural texts)

So while there are indeed symbolic texts in scripture; what I'm saying is that not all texts are symbolic. And one of such texts is the story of "The rich man and Lazarus".

The story is not symbolic. It is either a true life story or a true-to-life story. A historical fact of life or practical fact of life -but a fact of life nonetheless.

Meaning that, parable or not; the story clearly proves that souls depart to hades or heaven after death, and they remain animate and conscious there.


You desperately wanted to play the "symbolic" card with this story, so you can claim that souls talking and being conscious after death as in the story is symbolic not literal. But it is not symbolic, it is a factual description by Christ of what happens in hades after death.

Death is not the cessation of existence.

If death is not the cessation of existence , it means humans will continue to exist , an automatic everlasting life, WHY WOULD JESUS CLAIM TO GIVE MAKIND EVERLASTING LIFE THRU HIS DEATH IF ITS SOMETHING ALREADY A PART OF US ? Joh 3:16

If souls cease to exist after death, how was the witch of Endor able to conjur up the spirit of Samuel the prophet after he had died? (1Samuel 28v15)

And if souls know nothing after death, how was Samuel able to know that Saul and his son would die the next day? (1Samuel 28v19)

I wonder where you and your witch controlled samuel got his messages from , scripture says the TRUE GOD IS NOT SPEAKIN TO SAUL ANYMORE.

FALSE PREDICTION:

If he is sent from God, Why would he say philistines will kill saul , whereas saul commits suicide ?

It means the verses you quoted of the dead knowing nothing should be interpreted contextually; in the context of the human body. It is the human body that decays and returns to dust; and knows nothing anymore after death. The human souls stays active, animate and conscious in hades or heaven after death.

Nobody exist before his birth, and death is a CURSE that return all the living to non existence .
" to dust you shall RETURN" Gen 3:19

johnw74

Concerning John the Baptist and Jesus Christ, messenger does not mean Angel, but Prophet etc.

Aggelos means "prophet" ? Anyone readin this will know u aint serious

and again angelos doesn't mean Angel but messenger

Is Jesus a spirit messenger ?

What are spirit messengers of God called ?

[size=25] In fact angelos doesn't mean anything, it's "aggelos [/size] "

Oh! It doesnt mean anything anymore , john .. U still gat alot of work to do .

johnw74:
Ken4Christ, jw rejects God's inspired word just to hold onto their false man made beliefs, and they accuse you to try and make themselves look better

three times I have asked Captivator to comment on the following, but jw rejects scriptures and change them to mean something else when those scriptures go against their beliefs

Captivator, Jesus Christ comes with all of His Saints
does the Angel Michael have saints, or
does God have Saints.

1Th 3:13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.

U AVOID MY QUESTION ... WHY ?

1) is Jesus a human or spirit messenger ?

2) what are spirit messengers of God called ?

...........

Jesus comin with his saints pictures Arch angel micheal ... Its very clear that Christ is the arch angel because Jesus is described as arch - angel in 1the 4:16. Whose voice will raise the dead ? Joh 5:25

johnw74:
It has been shown you
Messenger can mean angel , prophet, priest, teacher,ambassador,king
depending who it is referring to.

The bold says it all .....

In john the Baptist's case, messenger means "Prophet"
In Jesus Christ's case messenger means "Prophet,Priest, Teacher, and King"

See how the trinity doctrine has really affected your thinking ! Ur STATEMENT ABOVE IS NOT SCRIPTURAL .

If it mean prophet , please why would the greek scriptures use "angelos" while quotin malachi 3:1 in matthew 11:10 ? Pls answer.

Giv me some comedy, does "angelos" mean prophet ?

messenger in Malachi 3:1 means anything but Angel
.

False reasonin blinded by trinity spectacle , u say it mean anythin but angel BUT matt 11:10 says it mean " angel (angelos) " ? Who is lyin btw d two of u

johnw74:
There is no angel of the covernant in Malachi 3:1
Neither John the baptist or Jesus are angels,
it has been explained to you and you cannot understand.
Now go to Hebrews.

english Is confusin u

Angel means "messenger" , is Jesus called a messenger ? YES

Both are called angel (angelos) in d greek septuagint of malachi 3:1 , see matt 11:10 too, u cant denie that ?

Jesus is a spirit messenger (angelos) = angel !

Or dont u know human messengers are called angels too ? ! See rev 2:1 , 2: 12-14 , 3:1

johnw74:
You say that but scripture doesn't.
1Th_3:13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.

Rev 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
Rev 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Rev 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

Rev 19:14 ... The armies which were in heaven followed him ' who are the armies in heaven ? Angels or dead saints ?

Who is identified as the commander of Gods army in Joshua 5:14 ?

Image123:
Okay, i asked if you're a christian because i don't expect a christian to have a problem with the reality of the inner man. It is a view that the Bible agrees to and teaches.
Now, everyBODY goes to the grave when they die as it were. It's not only Solomon. But some people go to where the Bible refers to as Abraham's bo.som or paradise .

- Abrahams bossom! ,where did Abraham himself go when he died ?

johnw74:
What the Bible say's:

Heb 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels,
is clearly saying Jesus is not an Angel

Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

Is clearly saying God has never said to an Angel:"Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee"
God has never said to an Angel:"I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son"

Before we proceed to hebrews 1

Who is the "angel of the covenant" in malachi 3:1 ?

johnw74:
What is very reasonable is that God's Angels led by their chief Angel Michael would fight the fallen angels led by their chief angel satan.

And that it is the Word of God with His Armies (all of His Saints and perhaps Angels too) that destroy the armys of the world.

That's what the Bible says.

U say perhaps lols ... Truth is starin at u .
The arch - angel Commands all the armies of heaven..
In Revelatin Jesus commands and leads the armies of heaven.

CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME , WHO THIS PERSON IN JOSHUA 5:14 IS?

ayoku777

Let me ask you? Do you believe that Jesus is the Word of God ?

Of course , thats a title or name given to him by God Almighty His Father .... This is clear accordin to a vision in Rev 19:11-16 , Jesus was visioned on a horse and he is called by the name " the Word of God" ! NOT that he is the sentences and utterance that come out from God.

NOTE : rev 19: 11-16 pictures Jesus leadin the armies of heaven in WAR , Rev 12:7 shows its was the great arch-angel micheal that leads the angels in WAR . Since the son of God is to fight the nations , it is very reasonable that he was the one who with his angels earlier battled against the superhuman dragon, Satan the Devil and his angels .

and that ALL things were made by him - including the world and the angels ?

ALL things came into existence " through him" heb 1:1,2 . " Jesus Christ, through whom all things exist and we through him" 1 cor 8:6

This doesnt mean God didnt work ... Jesus made it clear that they are both hardworking workers ( john 5:17)

The source of ALL THINGS IS GOD, THE FATHER (HEB 1:1,2 ; 1COR 8:6 " THE FATHER, from whom ALL things are , and we for him " clearly then, rather than be the source , Jesus Christ humbly reveal that he is " the beginning of the creation by God" Rev 3:14 . U know what dat means

Anas09:
My joy is that thses atheists knowa the Bible so well. They don't have any excuse. Don't worry. Blame God for u willingly choosing to go to hell rather than accepting Jesus. U r inexcusable o man.

And the so - called atheist is showin u d errors of ur faulty churchianity

ayoku777:
Hebrew is an ambiguous language. It does not differentiate between some specific terms even though they are different.

The sky, where birds fly is called heaven in hebrew, the universe where the sun and the stars are is also called heaven in hebrew; and the paradise of God where His throne is is also called heaven.

The hebrew word shamayim means " heaven,sky" . So there is no big deal if its used for the two. UNLIKE malak and angelos which mean "messenger " , and both humans and spirit messengers are both called angels.

REMOVE the veil of tradition which says angel literarily means " a two winged being " NO ! Angel= messenger .

QUESTION:
Is Jesus a messenger ? YES

: Is Jesus a spirit messenger or human messenger ? Spirit messenger, (unless u wanna tell me, he start existin as human ,not sent from heaven )

What are spirit messengers of God called ?
ANGEL

But traditionally, the word heaven means paradise;

ERROR ! The hebrew word for paradise is pardes NOT shamayim ...

Where God's throne is. When God said heaven is my throne; He wasn't talking about the sky but paradise.

Can you now say that the sky is heaven? Or that if you go to the sky you are in heaven? It is in english that this differencies are made clear and explicit. You need to study them carefully to differentiate them in hebrew.

Thats in english NOT hebrew, remember God himself caled the expanse which include the skies "heaven" ( Gen 1:8, psalm 19:1 ) ,

Trying to capitalize on the ambiguity of the hebrew language, to say that Jesus is an angel, because the word for messenger and angel are both malak is far reaching.

It is clear that the malak of a messenger is different from the malak of a traditional angel. Just as the heaven of the sky is different from the heaven of paradise, even though the hebrew does not have an unambiguous term to differentiate them.

There is nothig like " heaven of paradise" in the hebrew scriptues " . So no ambiguity here

I understand ur point as saying God lives in the deep part of heavens above the sky , but REMEMBER the sky can also be called heaven, so just say God lives in the " the heaven(his abode) of heavens (the sky)" 1king 8:27

Trying to say Jesus is an angel is like saying the sky is heaven. And that is taking the ambiguity of the hebrew language too far.

Is the sky not heaven ? Psalm 19:1 , it is ! Read my xplanation above.

The writer of Hebrew said there is no angel that God ever addressed as begotten; yet the Father addressed Jesus as begotten.

Do the math! It means Jesus is not an angel.

That Jesus was made better than other angels (messengers) doesnt mean he himsef is not an angel (= messenger 'angelos' ) . The same way king solomons greatness that other kings doesnt mean he (solomon) himself is not a king.
"so King Solomon was greater than all the other kings of the earth" how is he greater? "in riches and wisdom" 2 chro 9:22

Jesus too (a spirit angelos (mal 3:1 septuagint) ) was made better than other spirit angelos how ? " he obtained an excellent name than theirs"

Hebrew 1 is just hightighting the exaltation of the firstborn SON over all other fellow heavenly SONS of God. Though he is a son and a spirit MESSENGER too .

teeowl:
The guy must be very stu.pid... How can you pay transport fare for a girl you just met? Where is the logic in that?

Who knows ? Mayb he was captivated by her feminine charms

johnw74:
The Greek word is "aggelos", ang-el-os is how it's pronounced,
and it can mean angel, and like it's Hebrew equivelant "malek" can mean other titles as well,
Prophet being one of them, which john the Baptist was.

Malek In Malachi 3:1 Is Not Signifyin A Prophet, teacher or doctor But ANGEL , angelos was used for Jesus in the greek septuagint of malachi 3:1 quoted in matt 11:10 and angelos means "angel" .

ANgel /messenger assignment is delegated to two people
I.) Human messengers ii) spirit messengers

I) is Jesus a spirit messenger of God ?

II ) Spirit messengers of God are called Angels ? YES OR NO .

Lets solve this first .... Then we proceed .

Yout trying to make Jesus Christ out to be a Angel because somewhere messenger was used to describe Him

Ar u still fighting malachi 3:1 , greek septuagint "angelos (angel) of the covenant" pls answer the questions above , be straightforward .

12month:
Only immature girls do this.
I once met my neighbour's living opposite my house in a bus, 2 sisters. I paid their t-fare with open mind. I never thought about anything or collected their number.

Well guess what?

My sister went to visit them and as they were discussing. They brought the issue up that I wanted to show off that's why I paid their t-fare.

That when I knw some gals can be funny atimes. I simply laughed it off.

The bold reveal how immature those girls are.

Even if they ar to discuss such , should it be with ur sister ? Shouldnt they knew ur sister will reveal everything to you ?

They aint mature .

dammieco:
A mon iru yin...we sabi una wella. Na u dey always pay woman transport fare come add bike money join

Lol .. observant

enilove:
A messenger is someone who delivers messages.
Anyone can be used to deliver messages. A wife can be sent to deliver a message and that makes her a messenger as far as that transaction is concerned although she still remains a wife. The same goes with a son. A father can send his son to deliver a message to someone. That qualifies him to be called a messenger and does not disqualify him from being called a son. As can be read below :

Matthew 21:33-37, 39-40 KJV
Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country: [34] And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it. [35] And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another. [36] Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise. [37] But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son. [39] And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him . [40] When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?

- the fact that someone is a messenger (i.e angel), doesnt disqualify him from being a son ( i.e spirit messengers called Angels are sons of God)

- the servant in the parable above are human messengers .

- the son in the parable above is a spirit messenger.

> What are spirit Messengers of God called ?

> Is Jesus a spirit messenger of God ?

.... Waitin for ur answers pls

johnw74:
John the Baptist was called a messenger too, but he is not an Angel

delete the english word messenger in matt 11:10 and u will see John d baptist been called an " angelos" !


Angel/messenger is an assignment delegated to i) a spirit messenger ii) a human messenger

1) is Jesus a spirit messenger of God ?

2) What are spirit MESSENGERS of God Called ?

^^
-- What are heavenly MESSENGERS of God called ? ANGEL

-- Is Jesus an heavenly messenger from God ? YES, Malachi 3:1

-- so , what are heavenly Messengers of God called ?

gunners160:
[color=#990000][/color]why wont they laugh the guy?dnt be surprise the guy is those type that can't give their 5naira to anyboby not even a fellow guy.Hw can a resonable guy use his hand earn money to pay for the t.p fare of an unknown bitch?.I am sure when the guy get home he would have to manage the little garri remainin funny enough mst Nl guys will stil fall prey to this after reading it

Bros .... U got me laughing. True talk

johnw74

Johnw74 did not testify that Jesus is an angel

U ar feelin the sting of truth ... Emotional outburst here and there .

Contrary to ur words in quote , U declare openly that malak can be used for angel . TRUE OR FALSE !

But in other to close ur eyes to truth .. U deceitly decide not to bold the word angel . And went on to say , the word malak can signify many things apart from " angel" .

DOES THE GREEK SCRIPTURE SUPPORT UR HERESY ? no

In matt 11:10 the exact greek word for ANGEL , angelos is used while quoting this same malachi 3:1 , malak was subtituted with greek angelos NOT prophet or doctor !

TRUTH IS LIGHT

Angelos simply means " messenger" .

The english word for angel was derived from angelos . Meaning an angel.

Z8:
some guys have excess money to be wasting sha

Should we look at it from that angle ?