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Jeromejnr:
First question: Didn't you get? God was speaking to the serpent, a field creature. He curse was compared to other field creature like him. That doesn't mean the Air and sea creatures were not cursed.

Flawed personal opinion, the scripture said they were BLESSED not cursed ( Gen 1: 22)

Secondly: Consequence of death of the spirit not flesh. From eating the fruit. (Death:Separation from the life and glory of God).

Physical death was just a byproduct. As was the ground yielding thorns.

By Product Of Eating The Fruit , Right ? But None Of The Animals - sea, field or air is said to eat the fruit !

Jeromejnr:
It mentions beast of the field because the serpent was a beast of the field and not of the air or the sea.

Simple!.

Why do birds and fishes die since they are not cursed ?

In verse 19, God's curse to Adam was he would return to dust. Well, why did Eve also return to dust?

The answer is in itself.

She ate the fruit and the consequence is death. Gen 2:17

Jeromejnr:
Gen 1:26(man's authority and dominion) Gen 3:14 (says to the serpent "you are cursed more than all cattle and more than every beast of the field), Job 13-19 (Satan's use of Adams authority and dominion he stole)

ROM 8:19-22. (Scripture earlier given)

English lesson concerning the second scripture: key word (more than)

You are blessed more than all your relations I.e Your relations are blessed to a degree but yours is greater.

You are cursed more than all cattle I.e cattle is cursed but serpent received more punishment to also crawl on the belly.

And you are told that the curse is death , right? Infact , Gen 3:14 only mentions the beast of the field .

This begs the question: what about the birds of the sky and the fishes of the sea , why do they also die ?

Jeromejnr:
Rom 8:19For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. 20For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21thath the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God.

22We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.



Point: When Adam sinned, because he was the god of this world and all things were subjected to him, all of creation (animals inclusive) also fell.

Kindly support the underlined point with the bible ?

Image123:
So what's the issue? Can you live with a mad man? Can you marry a mad woman? Can you employ a mad man or even sit with a mad man? If you can't do any of these, why do you expect God to live with a mad man? You think legion would have gone to heaven? Entry into heaven is not based on pity, it is based on having eternal life.

Those who serve a cruel god become exactly like him . You speak like a monster !

If I have the power to make a mad man sane , i would gladly do and relieve him from such a sad and pitiful condition to make him normal human to live with , you mean God lack such power too ?

Image123:
Can you live with a mad man considering that they don't know what they are doing?

Thats not the issue here , even the most wicked human government will never punish a mad man for anything ! If a mad man stab or kill anyone they are not liable because they dont know what they are doing .

If wicked humans could do so , why would a perfect loving God punish a man whose brain is not okay ? Cant he understand his condition ?

dolphinheart:
Family is cool Bro.
Will be missing the convention again this year.
No I'm not on jwtalk.

Eeyah , I know thats due to somtin personal , but there are many brothers that missed the conventions too but enjoyed reading the notes from those who have attend theirs , on that forum . You can try it .

But I think the convention release will be updated on jw.org for the benefit of our brothers and sisters that couldnt attend .

dolphinheart:
I'm cool Bro, how ur side?

Fine o , how is the family and congregation ? Lets thank Jehovah that regional convention will now kick off in Nigeria this month .

Have read alot of beautiful things regarding that convention from my fellow bros and sisters in Europe . Its great , are you on jwtalk (a Jehovah witnesses forum) ?

dolphinheart:
I'm cool Bro, how ur side?

Fine o , how is the family and congregation ? Lets thank Jehovah that regional convention will now kick off in Nigeria this month .

Have read alot of beautiful things regarding that convention from our fellow brothers and sisters in Europe . Its great

dolphinheart:
So the sect was successful enough to change the words of 1 Tim 3:16 in most bible translations, even in translations made by known trinitarians? Wow, what a very powerful sect !

long tyme my bros , how you doing ?

OLAADEGBU:
The Bible is not just one chapter or the OT. The moment you allow the light of the gospel to shine on your heart you will get holistic picture of what it's all about.

No scripture can contradict that verse !

Toks2008:
Have you ever resighted the lords prayers?

Please do it right now and stop at "Thy will be done on earth As it is in heaven "


Believe it orr not,everything good you see on earth today is Inspired from the maker on earth and heaven.

The bible says the earth is Gods foot stool and heaven his dwelling place.

Bro you wont miss a thing except sex which will be totally removed from our subconcious and physical nature.

And who says you wont have the best of ewa agoin?

Please explain the bold , how will Gods will be done on earth if everyone is going to heaven ?

johnw74:
It's very clear and simple for a believer, [size=25] Mary didn't give birth to God [/size] who has always existed

- Mary didnt give birth to God . You spoke well

So who did she gave birth to ?

Mary gave birth to the Son of God , a flesh human body

Okay

OLAADEGBU:
You cannot take one verse and run away with it. Compare scriptures and read them in context.

The context :
~ for the LIVING know that they will die .

~ but the DEAD know nothing at all .

Its either both statement are false , or both statement are words of truth .

Ecclesistes 12:10
" the congregator sought to find delightful words and to record accurate words of truth" .

misreal:
no need talking to you.

Enter a bus from Ikorodu to Hellfire

misreal:
lies?...I think you should use the gift of discernment to decipher what us truth or false not just your head..the story is true sir.blv it or not.

Clap for yourself , you also believe that there are some BUSES AT IKORODU ROAD taking people to hellfire .

From Ikorodu to hellfire .

" But reject irrelevant false stories, like those told by old women" - 1 Timothy 4:7



Buses now take people to hellfire ? , freshgreen sometimes you should use your own commonsense before posting lies .

OLAADEGBU:
What does it mean that the dead know nothing (Ecclesiastes 9:5)?

The dead know nothing , dead are dead

" They are dead; they will not live " - Isa 26:14

justlove91:
Don't know o

Lol

What do you think ?

jizzison:
You shouldn't use a hacked ps2 to watch movies mehnnn ...Since hacked ps2 can't b used to even play the ps2 CDs.

Hmm My bros , but can I know why ? I just want to learn from you

jizzison:
You shouldn't use a hacked ps2 to watch movies mehnnn...Since hacked ps2 can't b used to even play the ps2 CDs.

Hmm My bros , but can I know why ? I just want to learn from you

@ Op ... When he dies , The baby cease to exist just like everyone else . He is no more ( Ecc 9:5,10 ; Gen 3:19)

jizzison:
Do u play games with memory cards or cds? Or has ur ps2 bin hacked rather?

I played games with Memory card bro , that mean its hacked

johnw74:
of course jw would agree with atheist lies

But you are the reason this Lady is mocking christians .... is proverb 8:24 and PSALM 90:2 writen by atheists ? Why call those two scripture an athiest lie ?

also miz is against the Bible, she is against Christians, do you say she is not antichrist?



what do you know about honesty, there is no emotion just the truth, you see darkly.



rubbish, it is Christ that said it:
Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

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johnw74:
You are so dumb, you think you can make me cast pearls before mizpiggy
Mat_7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine ....




You are wrong yet again, many loved Paul's teachings in Athens, they were not all antichrists as you are antichrist.




You are so dumb you think you can shame me into casting pearls before mizpiggy.

^^
Brother, whats the big deal in psalm 90:2 and proverb 8:24 that you cant explain , honestly, You dont need all this emotional outburst , a christian should be calm in all situations . This is too harsh and not Christlike

unitysheart:
Of course he was created. He is known as the first of all creatures!

Thanks brother .

Adaobi12:
I do, indirectly sha. E.g Fa ya mind you think say you fine :DI do, indirectly sha. E.g Fa ya mind you think say you fine?

Dats funny , nice

chibwike:
Video of the incident...or you know na

LOL

Tobiee:
Yeah its wise.. But then ur friend might nt like it

Hmm , that bolded aspect though

some people say " Trust has travelled to space" , meaning there is no more trust nowadays even among friends .

The truth is have seen ladies fight with each other simply because their friend made comment like
- " wow, your boyfriend is very very handsome " - " your boyfriend is smart, I like that"
- " your boyfriend is the type of man I want too"
- " you are very lucky to have that guy, he is unique"
AND FOR THE GUYS

- " Bobo , this your girl has respect o .. I really like her"

- " your girlfriend is gorgeous"

- " I wish I can have this type of girl"

- " your girlfriend is unique"

But after this comments ... What comes next is SUSPICION , u hear " why will he/she make such comment if he/she is not interested in him or her" . *smiles* though sometimes the comments are innocent .

that makes me begin to wonder : Do You think its healthy to make beautiful comment about your friends fiance/fiancee, considering the fact that trust is now rare ?

Lateralmaths:
In other words you are saying that Christ's redemption is completed/perfected by man?

Am not gonna debate anything with you , you said its not a PRIZE , and I use 1cor 9:24 that said its a PRIZE to correct your view!

Listen to italo .