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Emusan:
Do you agree Holy spirit as a person can appear in form of Dove or Fire just as Jehovah who is a person can also appear in form of Cloud and Fire?

1) A person Can Never Appear IN THE BODILY FORM of a Dove . LUKE 3:22

show Me Where Jehovah appear in a BODILY FORM of any animal ?

2) " tongues as if of fire became visible to them and were DISTRIBUTED" Act 2:3 ..... A PERSON can Never be DISTRIBUTED .

Show me where Jehovah is said to be distributed on people ?



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Emusan:
Na today

An educated person who couldn't differentiate between COME UPON and LIE WITH

Do you even read the context of that scripture at all .

Mary conceived by the holyspirit ! TRUE OR FALSE ?

SO, IF the holyspirit is a person , the one who got mary Pregnant , WHO IS THE FATHER OF JESUS ?

Emusan:
Why will you see it as an answer to your questions when you left your brain somewhere before you spew those thrash.

Oh sorry, I DONT Deal with abusive beings

" put away from yourselves every kind of malicious bitterness, anger , wrath, screaming and abusive speech, as well as everything in jurious" Eph 4:31







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Emusan:
Then this proves that Jesus is Jehovah God because Jesus is the one choses and COMMADED those to witness about Him.

OFFSIDE

Acording to Act 10:40,41

- who was raised from the dead ? Jesus

- Who raise Jesus from the dead ? Jehovah God

- Who APPOINTED the apostles as witnesses ? JEHOVAH GOD

- When Did God appoint the apostles as witnesses ? Beforehand , earlier

Jesus Christ REFER to the Father As " THE ONLY .. GOD" John 17:3.

ONLY! ONLY!

What About The Apostles, Did They Agree With Jesus that the FATHER is the " ONLY GOD" !

" FOR US, THERE IS ONE GOD THE FATHER" 1 COR 8:6

Any other apostle to support what that scripture says .

" worshipper of God ... The form of worship that is clean and undefiled from the standpoint of OUR GOD AND FATHER" James 1: 26,27

U know what ?

What God inspire the apostle james to write let us remember that Jesus has already said true worshippers will follow his footstep and thus " TRUE WORSHIPPERS will worship the FATHER... The Father is looking for ones like these to WORSHIP HIM" John 4:22,23

Emusan:
See lie so because of helper that's why Jesus used HE instead of IT.

If something is not PERSONIFIED it will be FIGURATIVE for JWs.



But Holy spirit has mind and emotions, is that personification too?



The person who is living in dogma saying someone else insist in dogma.

In fact if not because you've been brainwashed beyond control you wouldn't have asked these questions.



Why will Jehovah appear in form of CLOUD or FIRE if is a person?

I know you never reason that way




Since your delusion has sunk you so deep in the ocean of perpetual ignorance, you would have asked first why Jesus and Jehovah who are persons WILL MAKE THEIR ABODE with ALL THOSE who LOVE Them?

Does that mean there are many Jehovahs and Jesuses?



Another Jehovah's witness dumb question.

You believe Satan is a person but Satan filled Ananias' heart to lie in Acts 5:3, does it mean that Satan slept with Ananias?

How does this answer my questions .... , DONT answer questions with questions For Me Again. .
So u think uv answered the three questions.
.... Lets see

1) psalm 97:2 answers that Jehovah sits on his righteous throne, but Cloud are all around him and Fire goes before him.

- From the above, Jehovah is a person ... He sits on his throne ,

WHY DIDNT the holyspirit have a throne ?

2) Colosian 3:1 says God sits on his throne , and Jesus sits at his right hand , this are real persons who sits on throne, their making abode therefore doesnt mean they will move from heaven to earth , Rather God and Jesus will be with such persons .

Once again, WHY DIDNT the holyspirit have a throne ?


3) Calm Down, Ananias heart was filled to do what ? TO LIE ! Nothin like intimacy here, do we read that Ananias Conceived ? NOT AT ALL

Back to the context
" Holyspirit will come upon you ( Mary)" Luke 1: 35 ,holyspirit a person according to you, will come upon another female person , and the result will be pregnancy ? haba

" for what has been conceived in her ( a female person) is by holyspirit ( a person)" Matt 1:20.
Okay, holyspirit is the father of JESUS NOT God !



Cant u see the ABSURDITY of makin the POWER ( Force of doin somethng) of God" Luke 1:35, a person by human tradition ?

thorpido:
I thought you wanted to learn.I didn't know you are one of those clowns.

GENTLEMAN ..... Just Answer my questions

If the holyspirit is a person

1) do u agree holyspirit is the father of Jesus NOT GOD?

2) since its a person, arent u provin it that it had sex with Mary ? " mary conceived by the holyspirit ( a person according to you) " ?

3 ) WHY did it take the bodily form of a dove , BUT NEVER that of a person ??

thorpido:
Awww,your question shows you're so much in the flesh and don't understand spiritual things.

1)The bible never said the Holy Spirit appears as a dove but descended as a dove .They don't mean the same thing .

Thank you ! Descend as a DOVE , WOW! We are still sayin the same thing, Infact Luke 3:22 says 'descends in BODILY FORM, AS A DOVE' ! ... Even an illiterate person readin this knows we are talkin about a Dove's Bodily Appearance , WHY DOES it descend in a Dove Bodily Form AND NEVA as a person ??

2)God is awesome and omnipresent.He is everywhere and that is why He can be everywhere and in 'everything'-every person.

Lol .. So ur god is everywhere, in the hole of crab, hole of ants, in the fictional hellfire too e.t.c


moreover, are u sayin holyspirit is God , SHOW me where the bible said " holyspirit is God Almighty" ?

3)Holy Spirit had sex with Mary
?

Didnt U Say Its A Person? So who impregnate Mary ?

iloriolushola

3. Are ignorant of the fact that He (the Holy Spirit) is
a
Person and not an impersonal “force” like in the
movie, Star
Wars (the Holy Spirit isn’t flesh and blood, of course,
but has
a personality ~ Jesus uses 7 personal pronouns in
John 16:13
alone, the New American Standard translation, to refer
to the
Holy Spirit and His personal characteristics).

RESEARCH more .... The greek word translated 'helper' in John 16:13 carries a masculine gender , thats why its perfectly normal for Jesus to personify the holyspirit with "he" while refferin to "helper" , the holyspirit itself was personified .

Its not uncommon to see such examples of things personified in the scriptures

FOOT speaks ( 1 cor 12: 15)

The EAR talks { 1 cor 12:16}

Trees are said to be rejoicing in psalm 96:11,12

Mountains sing ( Isa 55:12)

Trees Clap Their Hands ( Isa 55:12)

ALL ARE PERSONIFICATION.

BUT if u still insist according to your dogma that the holyspirit is a person, then answer this .

1) why does the holyspirit appear as a dove, and also as tongue BUT NEVER as a person ?


2) since the dogma says holyspirit is a person, and every so - called christian claimed to have it, so how many holyspirits exist since millions of people say that person lives within them ?


3) if the holyspirit is a person , arent u sayin it had sex with MARY ?

Emusan

How true is the underlined statement?
The Bible verses that was given to read Acts 15:14
"Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit
the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his
Name." and Acts 15:17 "That the residue of men might
seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom
my name
is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these
things."(KJV)
I believe the purpose of referring to these verses is
the underlined words
"his name & my name" but what
Actually happen here?
Verse 13 indicates that it was JAMES who is narrating
what PETER saw about the Gentiles.
Now the big question is whose name did the Apostles
Actually proclaim before Gentiles?
The answer is the name of Jesus Christ

Lets examine ur claim on the bible verse given ( Act 15: 14, 17)

- Verse 14 said its God who turned his attention to the nations to bring out a people for his name ! Which clearly refer to Jehovah God

- Didnt you see that Verse 15 - 17 is a DIRECT QUOTATION from Amos 9:11,12 WHERE THE NAME " JEHOVAH " appears ? .NOT the fabricated " LORD" concept subtituted by human tradition into most bibles.

- INTERESTINGLY, during the event narrated by James which actually Happened to Peter, peter makes it clear that the apostles are ' WITNESSES APPOINTED BY JEHOVAH GOD , who raised Jesus from the dead' Act 10:40,41

According to the scriptures , Who really is that person sooo great to be the God Of Jesus Christ ? Eph 1:17

Ur view

I Commend the womans honesty

- to those INSULTING HER !

1) Will you be happy if someone steal your school fee or life savings ? Just think

2) wont u curse the person, REMEMBER SUCH CURSES WORK LIKE MAGIC ? I think the woman has saved herself from such dirty utterances .

3) there is no gain takin what is not yours, its like Gambling and winning other peoples sweat ...
I know guys who engage in playin Nairabet, Naijabet, Surebet, 1960 E.T C .... WHEN they get such money , the devil is so dubious that he will make sure that they spend it lavishly , and at the end they go back to their huzzling lifestyle . FUNNY Enough they are trapped in addiction which make them contribute back that money they have previously claim to win .

- when you take other peoples property, yours is also at risk , that is life .

[size=22] A few years ago there was a story in a Montreal paper
about an Ohio lady who drowned her baby in a bathtub.
Her defense was that she loved the baby so much that
she wanted to make sure that her child would not have
To suffer forever in hell. After serving a sentence she
remarried, had another child and drowned it for the same
Reason.

She trusted that God would forgive her because
Her intention, though warped by false theology , was for
the good of her children. [/size]

The jury decided that she was mentally ill, BUT WAS
SHE? The simple pragmatic fact remains that if
Arminianism is right, her two infants will
spend eternity
in heavenly bliss because she loved them so much that
she insured, by killing them, that this will be so
.

Apparently, many Christians believe that there is a
magical split-second in time before which a child, if they
die, will go to heaven, and after which, if they die will
spend eternity suffering in hell. They call this the "age of
accountability."

IF I BELIVE THIS NONSENSE , I would take a gun into the
largest maternity ward in Toronto and, before the police
arrived, kill every infant who had just been born. This
would cause an enormous amount of suffering to the
parents, but this wouldn't matter much in the long run,
Because probably most of them (according to
Evangelical theology) are destined to suffer forever in
hell anyway, so why not save their babies from the
same fate?

Don't try to argue that what I would be doing would be
wrong ("thou shalt not kill". The fact remains that my
act would, in fact insure the eternal salvation of the
babies. If Arminianism is right, then infanticide would
certainly be one of the most effective ways of "saving
souls." Besides, God forgives murder, especially when it
is done for such a noble, though misguided cause.
http://www.tentmaker.org/tracts/Jones1.html#

THOUGH I Agree that the live of an unborn child should be cherished ....

YET most of the so- called christians are hypocrites who justify abortion and makes it seems BENEFICIAL ! , imagine some christians preaching that dead babies go to heaven, REALLY ? Then abortion is the best way to help this babies attain salvation, dont u think ?

RELIGION IS JUST A SNARE

dejilg:
How many times do we have to tell u dat we also believe in "One God" Why do u keep being blind to wat we say, why do u set up a strawman?

ONE God ? NO, its 3 .... Should I prove it

God number 1 = the Father

God number 2 = the Son, Jesus

God number 3 = holyspirit.

INFACT they are all different persons, and each is God! 3

1Cor 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him...

Are u scared to quote it in full So there is "ONE LORD - Jesus Christ" and it does on to say "by whom are all things and we by him"....so if there is One Lord and that LORD is Jesus Christ, den the Father isn't LORD well let me leave u wit ur eisegesis and ignorance! This text teaches the Deity of our LORD JESUS CHRIST and u just destroyed Islam anyways!

I Love it when people quote that passage in full

Who is called the ONE GOD ? THE FATHER

Does it tell us why he is called the ONE GOD ? YES , " FROM WHOM all things are, and we for him"

Who is called the One Lord ? Jesus
WHy is Jesus called the One Lord ? " through whom all things are, and we through him " .

IS JESUS THE FATHER ? NO! NO!

so Jesus is d beginning of God's Creation? So do u know the greek word from which this text is translated? The word for "beginning" is "arche" in greek which could also mean "ruler, origin, beginning or source" --- so do we use d oda alternatives to see wat d text means? a proper reading of the book of Revelations shows dat Jesus is God (assuming u read d Bible like most of u claim)

THE Firstborn of CREATION! CREATION! cannot be the source, he is the "beginning"

Scriptural Definition Of Firstborn ....... " The BEGINNING OF pro creativ power" . Gen 49:2

So beginning is the right translation

John 17:3  And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

so wats dis verse telling us? That there isn't eternal life unless we know Jesus Christ to the detriment of Islam?? and if truly u know wat Trinitarians believe, why wud Jesus' Divinity be tarnished cos he called the Father, the only true God?...

Of course,

Jesus refer to the FATHER as "the ONLY TRUE GOD" JOH 17:3

Hmmmm _ " THE ONLY .. GOD " JOH 17:3

FOR US all 3 Persons of the Triune God are called are called God and call eachoda God...

" FOR US THERE IS ONE GOD, THE FATHER" 1 Cor 8:6

Hebrews 1

8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

So here the Father calls the Son "God"...so does that make the Father a non deity?

Pls stop showing us ur lack of ignorance...thanks

- That verse says the Father annoints Jesus!

- That Verse says the Father is the God of Jesus .

- 1) Didnt the Father also call humans"GODS"?

2) DIDNT the Father also inspire scripture writers to call Satan " GOD" ? ( or av u forgotten that the original greek doesnt separate "G" and "g" )

THE FATHER Remains " THE ONLY ... GOD" Joh 17:3

" THE ONLY .. GOD" Joh 17:3

" THE ... TRUE GOD" Joh 17:3! WOW

[quote author=dejilg post=31196743]

According to our understanding of God's Being (One) ,

This is a lie , 3 DIFFERENT persons are not the same being , ur post below proves that statement as a lie

Jesus died, while the Father is on His throne ruling in heaven, while the HolySpirit goes on to convict the world of sin

If they are same being, all would be dead .

THEN YOU AGAIN PROVE U WORSHIP 3 GODS

...Jesus is God,

God number 1

the Father is God,

God number 2 ... This is gettin interesting

the HolySpirit is God

God number 3

...the Father isn't the Son whom are in turn not the HolySpirit...they are different Persons but same Being described as "God"

You are right , 3 DIFFERENT Persons and each is God , making 3

dejilg:
that makes me wonder, cos I just see u ignore all d texts of the Bible that says Jesus is God and identifies Him as YHWH

NOTICE the word " identifies" , #smiliiing# .... You use it because NONE of those scripture says " Jesus Is YAHWEH" did they ? NO !

YOU actually tryin to deduce and force another meaning to them .

Wait, didnt you read That YAHWEH/JEHOVAH is strictly a name for the MOST HIGH GOD ALONE ( psalm 83:18 ) .

So, is Jesus the most high ? Hope u know the meaning of MOST HIGH ? Is he ? I know ur false theological concept of Nicea will force u to say he is the most high ! BUT THATS WRONG, you dont agree , okay let me give you a test .

1) If Jesus is the most high, WHY is he always doing the WILL OF ANOTHER PERSON , whereas that person NEVER do the will of Jesus?

2) If Jesus Is Most High, Why Is He Been Sent By Another Person, Whereas He Himself NEVER sent that one ?

3) if Jesus is the most high, WHY DOES HE HAVE A HEAD ABOVE HIM ? 1 COR 11:3

4) If Jesus is the most high, WHY DID HE HAVE A GOD both in heaven and while on earth ?

Papist:
I advise you stop ressurecting the Arian heresy which was defeated centuries ago by the Church through the holy St Athanasius the Great, Partriarch of Alexandria. Now 1500 years later comes Charles Taze Russell to resurrect the teachings of the arch-heretic Arius. The Church was guided by the Holy Spirit as promised by Christ to define the Trinity and I am sure St Athanasius did not use your verse to defend the Divinity of Jesus. How about John 1 *the Word became flesh*...or St Thomas exclaiming *My Lord and my God*...or the great commission to baptise in the name of the *Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit*? How do you understand them?

Am happy you agreed that 1john5:7 is heresy

AND NONE of those verses u quoted says God is a three in one , do u forget that satan is also called " GOD" 2 Cor 4:4 (hav u forgotten the whole bible was originally writen wwithout diferentiating " G" from " g"

Jesus Call Humans " GODS" .

~ but there is ONLY ONE TRUE GOD, THE FATHER ! Confirmed by Jesus in joh 17:3 and fully emphasized in 1 cor 8:6 .

And do u know that Jesus himself is "the beginning of the Creation BY GOD ( THE FATHER)" REV 3:14 .




" FOR US, THERE IS ONE GOD, THE FATHER ......... however not all have this knwledge" 1 COR 8:6,7

Empiree:
Did Op complain?. No. You are talking about my prophet, Jesus the son of Mary, the messanger of God. So it concerns me. You hear?. I will only respect 1 thing, and that's if Op says he doesnt need my contributions. Clear?

Jesus said: " love your neighbour as yourself" , and a certain man asked " WHO really is my neighbour ? " so, Jesus answered with a brilliant illustration, that our neighbour can either be a Jew, a Samaritan , ANYONE .

SO, YOU ARE WELCOME BRO

Bobbysworld28:
Destroyed? When u bring 3 ppl together, u use names not name. Three ppl grouped together and bearing one name? Thats more like a conscious agreement in which u can use dt one name for any of them and u won't be wrong! Simple logic, ehn?

U think name in that context is a literal name.

So, what is the personal name of the holyspirit ?

In Hebrews the Father referred to the Son as God. Yet in Matthew 1:20 the Son was called the child of the Holy Spirit (Holy Spirit =the Father). I laff at d way u ignorantly say d verse destroyed my argument

SO , Holyspirit= the Father ... Lol

So the father will give u himself when u ask for holyspirit ?? Luk 11:13

So the father actually descend as a dove during Jesus baptism ?

dejilg:
and why shld people take u seriously cos I don't know any Trinitarian Christian who based his theology on this verse!!! U shld hv done just a lil bit of studyin of the scriptures before spewing this...and u shld do dat by first putting off ur pre supposed "theology" and read honestly!!! see dat Jesus is described as no creature can!!! See Jesus' identification as YHWH

YAHWEH is the name of the MOST HIGH GOD ( psalm 83:18) NOT Jesus .

OR Give me the scripture that says " Jesus IS YAHWEH" ?

dejilg:
well the Word "Bible" isn't in the Bible, and are u so ignorant that truths doesn't necessarily have to be expressed in single words or sentences? U said God is never described as "three in one", ok, show where God is described as "one in one" The word Trinity is used to sum up a "divine truth" of God's nature, just as the word Bible is used to refer to "His written word to us"...pls do a lil more thinking before u type "empty words" as these

" God is ONLY one" Gal 3:20 NOT three in one

Bobbysworld28:
baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

The emphasis is on " BAPTIZING" NOT trinity

Baptize them in the name of " the Father" ( the ONLY true God ( Joh 17:3 [the ONE God for christians 1 COR 8:6 ]) .

The son ( who receive his authority from God[matt 28:18])

The holy spirit ( free gift from God [ Act 2:38])

THE TEXT destroyed the trinity argument by evidently never including ur UNscriptural phrase " the three are one" .

Bobbysworld28:
One there is no Trinity in the Bible. The concept however is glaring at u even though u refuse to accept.
mat28.18-19.kjv And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

The first allusion to this oneness came frm Jesus in d verse above. Can u see dt he told his disciples to baptize in the name (not names) of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The three are one

~ the words that I underline are UNscriptural, you add it because you are teaching a doctrine that is Unscriptural .

- THAT the scripture u quoted mentions the Father, son and holyspirit together NEVER means they are ONE GOD ! Does that scripture say they are ONE GOD ? NO!

~ what will u call 1tim 5:21 where God, Jesus Christ and the angels are MENTIONED together ? U may call that one "billionity"

Bobbysworld28:
Christ possessed the FULNESS OF God bodily. In Him God dwelt fully. He and the Father became one
heb1.8.kjv But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

God the Father referred to the Son as God. No wonder Jesus told his disciples dt anyone who has seen him has seen the Father, gerrit?
Jesus was the spoken word of God which became flesh and dwelt among us.
What are words? Words are ur tots and will clothed in language. So his divinity, origin and status was from God and was God Jn 1:1

The original post says it all , you guys are only look for verses to defend ur spurious theory.

- There is no TRINITY in this verses ..... NOTE: They actually spoke about two persons AND NOT THREE .

Bobbysworld28:
col1.19-20.kjv For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Lesson 1: The Father dwells in Christ.

jhn15.26.kjv But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

Lesson 2: the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father that dwells in Christ.

Three distinct entities with different attributes dwelling in one.

QED

THANK YOU for destroying the pagan trinity

- the word "Father" didnt appear in the original context of Col 1:19.

- Col 1:19 didnt say Christ possess the fullness because he is part of a trinitarian God, DID IT ? NO ! RATHER it says Christ possess the fullness because " it PLEASED THE FATHER" (kjv) the GOD of Christ.

DEAR FRIEND, that is tellin you that he wont possess the " fullness" if it DIDNT PLEASE THE FATHER .

- ONCE AGAIN , that scripture again reveal the Authority of the Father over his son , Christ !!


> the same scripture also said, it pleased God to reconcile all things to himself THROUGH Christ, his son .

Christ whose blood is shed for mankind is the " mediator" between the Only true God, the Father and mankind whom the Father reconcile to himself.

"for there is ONE GOD, THE FATHER"

and one mediator between God and MAN, Christ Jesus. 1 Tim 2:5 , 1 Cor 8:6 .

wellmax:
OP you have confused yourself and is set out to confuse others. Who says there are no scriptures confirming trinity. How I wish I got time for folks like you.

Learn , Something important and profound:

GENTLEMAN .... Whenever someone tries to teach you a
doctrine that is UNscriptural, he will always
be forced to use words that are
unscriptural.

First of all, NOWHERE in the Scriptures
Is God referred to or called a "trinity." !

Second, the word "THREE" is never used
In reference to Who or What God is. !

Thirdly, God is NEVER described as " three in one" in the scriptures

I Could now go through all the Scriptures
that support the doctrine of the trinity,
however, there is a problem --THERE ARE
NO SUCH SCRIPTURES!

So let’s do something else. Let’s look at a
few Scriptures that Trinitarians claim add
credence to their theory. I will take no
more than a few pages to try and clarify
the Scriptural teaching on who, what, and
how many Gods there really are.

First of all we must dispense with I John
5:7 which reads in the King James Version
"For there are three that bear record
In heaven, the Father, the Word, and
The Holy Ghost : and these three are
one."
There is a problem with this verse. The
words that I typed in bold print are not
Scripture. They should NOT be in the
Bible. There are many Bibles that do not
contain these words. Here are a few:

The Concordant Literal New
Testament: "...seeing that three there
are that are testifying, the spirit, and
the water, and the blood, and the
three are for the one thing."

New World Translation of the Holy
Scriptures: "For there are three
witness bearers, the spirit and the
water and the blood, and the three
are in agreement."

A New Translation by James Moffatt:
"The witnesses are three, the Spirit
and the water and the blood, and the
three of them are in accord."
The Emphatic Diaglott: "For there are
three which testify; the Spirit, and the
water, and the blood; and the three
are of one."

The Emphatic Diaglott has a footnote:
"This text concerning the heavenly
witnesses [as found in some
versions] is NOT contained in ANY
Greek manuscript which was written
earlier than the 15th century. It is not
cited by ANY of the Greek
ecclesiastical writers; nor by ANY of
the early Latin fathers..."

The Holy Bible--New Catholic
Version: "For there are three that
bear witness [in heaven: the Father,
the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and
these three are one. And there are
three that bear witness on earth]: the
Spirit, and the water, and the blood;
and these three are one."
The brackets are supplied by the
translators. This version also has a
footnote:

"According to the evidence of many
manuscripts, and the majority of
commentators, these verses should
read: ‘For there are three that bear
witness: the Spirit, and the water, and
the blood; and these three are one.’
The Holy See reserves to itself the
right to pass finally on the origin of
the present reading."

The New Testament from 26 Translations:
Footnote, page 1183:
"The words between ‘bear
record’ (verse 7) and ‘the
spirit’ (verse 8 ) are now recognized
as not adequately supported by
original manuscripts."

As those words were hand written in a
copy of a manuscript as late as the 15th
century and do not appear in ANY Greek
manuscript, they have no place in the
inspired Word of God.

http://bible-truths.com/

Alone90:
So are you also saying that we should worship only one God? If yes, then is in it the real teachings of christ while He walks this earth? And finally, is it also tought by other preceeding prophets of God? Pls answer

Do u know that ?
" there is ONE GOD, THE FATHER " 1 cor 8:6

AND do u remember Jesus said:

" TRUE WORSHIPPERS will worship THE FATHER" John 4:23

Emusan:
This is the full verse 1 Corinthians 8:6 "yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; [size=14pt]and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.[/size] (NIV)

Good! Thanks for quoting the entire verse.

Whom is refferd to as the One God ? THE FATHER .

Whom is refferd to as the One Lord ? Jesus Christ .

IS JESUS THE FATHER ? NO !

Why is the Father reffered to as the one God ? " FROM WHOM all things came , and for him we live" .
Even Jesus " Came Out From the Father" Joh 16:28

Does the verse tell us why Jesus is called Lord? Yes, " through whom all things came, and through whom we live" .

Deuteronomy 6:4 we read "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. (NIV)

ERROR ! The tetragrammaton hebrew letters appeared in this verse NOT the fabricated capital " LORD" .

American standard version

" hear 'o Isreal, Jehovah our God is one Jehovah" Deu 6:4.

And Jehovah is the name of the MOST HIGH (Psalm 83:18)

vooks:
How LONG is 'long'? How many inches,centimeters?
Any scriptures on that?

YOU speak exactly the way a smoker will enquire : u told me not to smoke " which scripture? , chapter ?, verse" is smoking written in scripture ? !
NATURE NEVER CHANGE
ANSWER THIS :

1) THE PICTUREs UPLOADED by THE op contain a long hair ? YES OR NO.

2) test NATURE : WILL you not call such hair " long" if you found it on a man ??

TELL us if this scripture is a fabrication ! If its truth , the doctrine of trinity ( the word "trinity" itself is a theological concept, the word "trinity" neva appeared anywhere in the scripture) is UNSCRIPTURAL, 1 COR 8:5,6


New Living Translation
But we know that there is only one God, the Father,
who created everything, and we live for him.

New International Version
Yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom
all things came and for whom we live;

This scripture NEED NO EXPLANATION, BUT I WILL COMMENT .

1) this scripture tell us there are how many God ? ONE !

2) as this scripture explains, hw many persons are composed in this ONE GOD ? ONLY THE FATHER ! The FATHER NOT The FATHER, SON AND HOLYGHOST ! BUT ONLY THE FATHER.

Is dis scriptural definition not more clear and direct than the theological One God + One God+ One God = One God nonsense .

But wait , probably that scripture is a fabrication AND IF ITS TRUTH ..... TELL US !


Comments welcomed.