₦airaland Forum

janeedema:
Who cares what men wants? Save the epistle for your wife.

I’m sure Natasha knows what her hubby wants. That's all that counts. Thankfully, she is married; else your lot would have claimed her “drama” is why she isn't.

Natasha represents her people at the senate. Hence, your mysogynist epistle about what men wants is irrelevant.

Like the senate president with an obvious mouth diarrhea, Natasha deserves to be heard inspite of her “drama”

Gender is irrelevant. Like Akpabio, she was duly elected to serve. Men don't need to like her “drama”. Her people do.

And in my opinion, that's all that counts.

You are clearly very daft. If she is suspended like she will be or avoided by her peers, sent to unimportant committees because she is seen as difficult to get along with how does she serve her constituents.

It is not about her being a woman it is about her being a drama queen. You women may love drama we don’t. And if you are surrounded by men you need to understand how men operate.

You say gender is irrelevant but when a woman misbehaves you pull the gender victimization card. I agree gender is irrelevant but women make it relevant when you pull the gender card to mask bad behavior.

Is she the only female senator?

YouAreNobody:
How will anyone want to be like someone from a tribe whose name was given to them by their fulani conquerors?

The funny part is, you guys live up to the name

At least we know our history, what is yours? Every tribe in Nigeria can trace their roots in the land called Nigeria except you. Every tribe in Nigeria has a history of kings except you…why? Why because your history is that of captured slaves settled in a transit slave camp prior to shipping to the new world and with the abolition of slavery that transit slave camp became your permanent home.

AdeYORUFAFO:
You really are a d*ft child. The moniker is a derisive term

we live rent free in your heads.

AdeYORUFAFO:
Why would I want to be like you? I don’t know you, but I’m very sure that I am better than you in all ramifications and I’m just a regular Joe in Igboland.

cant you use an ibo name why use a yoruba handle? inferiority complex haunting you.

AdeYORUFAFO:
Typical Yorubas are always propagating propaganda

We don’t need any propaganda, you all want to be like us.

Says somebody who is hiding behind a yoruba moniker. Why if not for deceit and propaganda?

Typical Ibos, never acknowledging their wrongs, always finding a scapegoat to pin for the consequences of their self made problems..

Antoeni:
Nice One, Sue That Irresponsible & Indisciplined Nuisance, Who Have No Respect For Women.

People who want respect should honour the golden rule of respect which is ... first respect yourself.

The truth is that this woman hasn’t represented womenfolk credibly. Too much drama! Women like her block opportunities for other women with their conduct.

Men don’t like drama, if your wife gives too much drama we find a side chick, if a female colleague gives too much drama we avoid her and become wary of employing or giving opportunities to other women. I wont be surprised if some senators have gone behind the scenes lobbying to not be included in the same committees with her or to have her not included in their committees. That’s what we do as men, we avoid dramatic women and the best way to avoid them is to ensure they are not in your immediate space and any interaction with them is at arms length.!

Eriokanmi:
Elrufai is one of the key northern politicians that carry weight. By the tme he begins to attack you, he'll not stop until he brings you down. I remember GEJ time. The latter first ignored him. By the tine he realised it, kaduna and some northern states had been lost to the apc.
Elrufai is a strong figure in the apc, as far as northern politics is concerned. He doesn't know how to talk and that's my problem with him. His bodybag statement has denied him the US Visa till today. Their mega party will work and unaeat Tinubu. Elrufai is a spoiler, he's a termite in politics. You loud speakers, you'll be shocked.

He does not carry the weight you think he does. It’s like saying Okupe, Osinbajo, Obasanjo or Adebanjo carry weight in the SW. Go and check the last results they all lost their polling units and none was able to deliver their states talk less regions.

Being vocal and noisy is not the same as having a political structure. Political base and structure delivers votes. MC Oluomo will deliver more votes in the SW than any of those 4. ElRufai cannot win an election in Kaduna today, he could not deliver his party for APC in 2023. Even Obi got almost the same number of votes that ElRufai as a sitting governor was able to deliver for his party. So what exactly are we talking about?

El Rufai is a technocrat, he thinks like a technocrat, he is not a true politician he hasn’t got a political base! His public exposure and his victories in the only elections he has contested was on the back of existing Godfathers (Obasanjo, Atiku, Buhari) or party structures like APC. ElRufai does not port to any political party with a flowership or votes because he is not a real politician. When a real Nigerian politician moves, he moves with followers and votes. When Tinubu went to Buhari and said we will support you, the votes of the entire SW switched from GEJ to Buhari. Yayi controls Ogun west, he is why Amosun’s candied ate lost and why Abiodun won in 2019 and 2023. These are politician with a base and a structure! These are politicians that determine the outcomes of elections.

Politics is not about granting interviews and making noise. Your relevance in politics is about your ability to deliver votes. Peter Obi is far more relevant and influential politically than ElRufai…..far more! The true power brokers of Lagos politics 99% of Nigerians have never heard of them. These are the men that when they told Tinubu we don’t want Ambode anymore, Tinubu complied. That is true political power, people who can deliver or withdraw votes with one meeting. Not by making noise up and down.

It is because ElRufai knows he doesn’t have that power that he is panicking and running his mouth up and down. If you truly had the power what would you do? You would keep quiet and put in motion the machinery for the defeat of your opponent….no be so? If you had the power to make a few phone calls and cause the voters to switch votes, why would you bother to appear on TV to an audience that are irrelevant? Do the typical northern voters watch Arise TV? So clearly his interview on Arise was not aimed at Northern voters…..so what was the point? It was a cry for help! Listen carefully to what he said I won’t join PDP, I may not suppprt for Tinubu but I may if he does ok by 2027, the party has moved away from me (as in I am not the one who abandoned the party o)….. Nuru and Uba Sani are after me (as in reign them in) A blatant cry for help

LegacyB:
I’m a Christian and I know you are one. Be at least proud of your identity. This makes you belittle yourself to yourself.

He is not Even Yoruba…. see my above post or check his profile. He is a IPOB supporter. This is what they do all over social media, pretend to be Yorubas and deliberately foster hate. Scumbags!

Yobabad:
We Yoruba Muslims no longer like Elrufai,

Says a self confessed IPOB member who created a thread to declare his support for IPOB



We know your tactics of trying to disguise as Yorubas…it won’t work.

Adblg0610:
El-Rufai is not like that, he is either with you, to swim or sink and if he is not with you, he doesn’t pretend. I believe he is still with Tinubu when he said the following statement:
“PRESIDENT TINUBU NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT HIS LOPSIDED APPOINTMENTS. IT’S STILL NOT TOO LATE TO CORRECT IT, BUT THERE IS A PALPABLE ANGER IN THE NORTH.”
I perceive this statement as an olive branch which he has extended to the President for reconciliation. I urge the President and the leadership of the APC to reach out to him for a truce, before it’s too late.

I have said it in 2 threads already, all this noise from ElRufai is a cry for help. His problem is that he is a baby politician and he has always been in power on the strength of the political power or structure of others. All his public offices were appointments standing on the shoulders of giants and his governorship election was won on the strength of Buhari and APC.

The mistake technocrats in Nigeria seem to make time and time again is they get high on the positions they occupy and start to think of themselves as politicians and disrespect the game. It is the same error Osinbajo made.

ElRufai is a baby politician and he will learn politics by force if he says he wants to remain a politician.

He said it himself in the interview that he is a technocrat not a politician. Well if you want to be a politician in Nigeria he needs to stop thinking like a technocrat! To start with he revealed his hand too early….big error! a true Nigerian politician would bid his time before making his move.

chidiokay:
@least now we know why Tinubu avoided interviews and debates

The same El rufai Tinubu took to chatham house to answer question, now fails security test in Nigeria under Tinubu

Incase you are naive, Tinubu is the only candidate that went round Nigeria in 2023 election .. if thats not running, kini

IBB is on a wheelchair, how do you expect him to run

I am clearly dealing with an eeeediot here. This is not campaign season. You don’t see any powerful politician sure of himself running around making noise outside campaign season.

chidiokay:
hmmm - mmm ! was Tinubu not running up and down in 2015,

as at 2023 ! was Tinubu not running up and down criticizing Buhari and emefiele

will you say Tinubu is insecure

Nope! Was it not the same Tinubu you chastised for avoiding interviews and debates?

There are 3 people in Nigeria today that dont run up and down….people run to them…that is real power. Tinubu, Buhari and IBB!

The deal that swung the votes of the SW and made Buhari president was done quietly behind closed doors not in a TV interview…..that’s true political power and might!

You will do well in life to imbibe this life lesson: A man or woman who is loud and always courting attention and audience is not standing on firm ground!

Odin13:
Yoruba don’t just know the weight the man they call midget carry for Arewa


E go play like film

Power to the people … make Nigerians sing am loud

Which weight? You know the strength of a man whether power, money influence etc by how much noise he makes. The people who flaunt wealth the most are the ones who don’t really have money or as much as they portray, the truly wealthy hide their wealth because they know it’s the fastest way to go broke. The woman calling herself diva, beautiful or queen is the insecure woman. A truly desirable woman does not need to tel you because she knows and you can see the quality of men that pursue her. The politician running up and down is the politician who is insecure.

True wealth, beauty, power operate in silence. If he really had the might you claim he would just make his moves quietly in the background. These are classic signs of insecurity and panic and those with real might know it! Who is he coming to TV to appeal to if he truly had powerful people behind him? Is it that he can’t access them personally? It is precisely because he is stranded that he is granting interviews and speaking at every opportunity.

In fact if you watched his interview and are discerning, you can tell it was a cry for help.

CharleyBright:
Wrong conclusion.
Peugeot had been the ideal Nigerian cars for decades. The brand is known for Efficiency and Durability and also Stability. Though Toyota gradually took over Nigerian market due to influx of Tokumbo cars and recently Bolt using it, but Peugeot brands, 406, 307, 407, 301, 408 and recently 508 still have a good share of the market especially with the Arm Forces and Para Military.
Go to any rich man's home, you will see at least a Peugeot because the cars are dependable.
I have owned 3 brands of Peugeot and I still want to acquire the 508 because they brand is a reliable brand.

Go and ask anyone that owns a Peugeot.
In terms of durability, can you compare a Toyota to Peugeot.
Till today, 406 brand remains one of the best cars to be produced. One of the best cars to travel with and enjoy stability on speed.

Some of you who haven't own a car and only know of Toyota brands because of Bolt will come and be ranting your mouth.

What a load of trash from a poorly educated ignorant millennial. We drove Peugeots when their keys opened each other….when Peugeots were Peugeots, when their engine numbers was the same as their chassis numbers! The number of Peugeots I drove just as a university student between the ages of 16 and 21, I am sure you haven’t in your entire adult life. As an adult, I never owned a Peugeot myself but as a child at least 25-30 Peugeots from 404 to 504 to 505 were in my house as my parents official official cars growing up and I drove at least 8/9 of them. In addition, my Uncle was the local content supplier of the acs for all 504s assembled by PAN. I never drove a 406 in Nigeria but I once rented one in the UK and I thought it was a pile of manure though I know people liked it in Nigeria. You cannot school me on Peugeot! I was obsessed with Peugeots as a kid, I grew up with them. I can tell you every minute difference between every Peugeot 505/504 model year from the mid 1970s to the late 1980s. Just by looking I can tell you this is 1981, 1980, 1979, etc. From the difference in the grills to the fabric on the seats, to the year they changed the door cards to the year they changed the headrests, to the year they changed the gear stick, to the year they changed the door lock! To which years had green or brown window tints, to which models had chrome window frames, to which years or models had disc or drum brakes, which models had independent rear suspension, which had live axles. etc etc. you can’t school me on Peugeot!

First fix your English, it’s “models of Peugeot” not “brands of Peugeot”…Peugeot is the brand, 504,505, 406 etc are models! It is “have not owned” not “haven’t own”!

Bush boy!

ElRufai is merely seeking relevance. He knows he is about to go into political extinction.

It’s a cry for help!

Peugeot once owned the Nigerian market. They became complacent and lost their market share to Toyota, Hyundai etc. they are now attempting to come back with cars that are not attractive and don’t have the reputation of the rugged 504 and 505s of old. Their cars will have to be very very cheap to gain regain even a fraction of their lost market share. Toyota has locked down the Nigerian market they vacated for so long.

Dangote should have partnered with Toyota, I don’t see Peugeot making headway among Nigerian consumers except they are using Nigeria as an assembly base for exports.

Like I said in a previous thread o. The subject yesterday. It is not so much whether It was an Ibo coup or not.

But just like the Ibo reaction since 2015 when Buhari became president, it’s the constant insulting at every other tribe and becoming IPOB supporters, the real problem was their celebrations after the killings, the waxing of a song to mock the Northerners, the mocking of Northhern officer’s wives by wives of Ibo officers etc etc. we are seeing the same thing today!


You add that to the fact that no Ibos were killed either civilians or military and the so called coup speech made no mention of Awolowo and specifically stated that the country will be run by the military!

bigpicture001:
Me, I believe naija will still b great and better economically than the west... So I didn't even bother to Japa....

Instead I want to buy enough land to own more if naija earth space wen it will happen, the only p is that I am getting old ND the day keeps going father and father away....

God bless you!

Wahabfuture:
Nobody will stop us from having sharia law all over Yoruba land, you can relocate to another region if you don’t like it, respect our right

The problem with Nigerians educated as many claim to be is they are ignorant despite their education.

Sharia law cannot be implemented in any state without approval of the state assembly.

Sharia arbitration panel is not sharia law. It has no force of law is not binding on even the Muslims. A Muslim must voluntarily agree to appear at the panel and he can reject the outcome of the panel. Sharia panels already exist in Lagos state since 2002. It is not sharia law.

You cannot implement sharia law anywhere in Nigeria without the approval of the state assembly and the governor. If you read the attached below, they tried it and it was rejected by the governor and th assembly. On that basis sharia law can NEVER (I repeat never) come to the SW! The first people that will reject the introduction of sharia law in yoruba land are the yoruba Muslims themselves.

So if you want sharia law, I suggest YOU RELOCATE to Zamfara or otherwise!

datola:
Germany is a strong country who should not putsource her security to America

The decline of Europe is well under way and too late to stop. They were sleeping on duty. They got caught up in wokism for decades only to wake up one day to find out they have an aged population, they let in to many immigrants whose orientation and culture are incompatible with theirs, they are no longer leaders in any industry, their manufacturing base is shrinking at an alarming rate and they are not relevant in the tech race. They have huge social security burdens they can’t pay for. They are the grass underneath the elephants of China and the USA. They’ve made an enemy out of Russia that is still a growing economy because it has natural resources.

They don’t want immigrants but they cannot do without immigrant workers. They’ve been lazy for decades worrying instead about woke issues like climate, same sex nonsense and being puppets to the US.

Europe is forcked! Believe it or not Africa is more relevant today and has a brighter future than Europe.

OfoIgbo:
Awolowo, the alleged coup beneficiary spared

Awolowo was in jail

Believeintruth:
Hold on it is clear that it is an assumption. That's the fact here leave the bible quotes on Jesus wept.

An assumption is not a fact. The man states he is speculating and he may be wrong. He states he was not in the know so how can he know for sure?

Damn you are daft!

Believeintruth:
Your bolded too is justifying what I said that it is an assumption. Because you just jumped into conclusion

The bolded is from Babangida himself in page 40 of his book…Jesus wept can’t you read?

Oga good night!

Believeintruth:
Oga I have asked you again why are you dodging the last statement made by IBB that there was lots of rumors and conspiracy theories that led to the counter coup.
Why are you avoiding it?
Oga you are not that smart in pushing a false narrative.

It seems you just want to prolong your thread?

I have answered your question…read again…and again if you can’t find your answer and keep reading until you find it.

The point is Babangida gave an opinion not a fact and he was at pains in page 40 to say he may be wrong as he had no real insight.

BTW this is my post from Jan 15th.

casualobserver:
I actually believe the coup was not an Ibo coup as such. I sincerely beleive they were a bunch of overzealous immature, deluded misguided but sincere young men who saw themselves as patriots. The problem is that it failed and as a result of its failure, all we witnessed was the unintended effects.

I also believe there has always existed and still exist a band of Ibo expansionists whose views are represented by the Dady Onyeama declaration at the Ibo conference and unfortunately for the coup plotters, they are the ones who took over after the failed coup and started to act in an Ibo centric manner for instance by not trying their coup plotting kinsmen and enacting laws that suggested an Ibo supremacy/conquering agenda.

1: Whether by commission or by omission, the major actors in the coup were Ibos.
2: whether by commission of by omission the major causalities were non Ibos.
3: whether by commission or omission those who got away were the Ibos. Not only were Ibo politicians spared but the Ibo coup plotters were not tried.
4: if my brother kills your brother and I do not offer my apologies for or distance myself from his behavior then it is natural for you to conclude he had my approval.
5: the nature of some of the deaths/murders are unconscionable.
6: the fact that Ibos have never dissociated themselves from the coup but more importantly apologized and also carry on today like a people intent on conquering others only serves to perpetuate the idea that it was an Ibo coup.
7: I draw parallels with the Obidient movement, where you have probably sincere naive young non Ibos who genuinely think Obi will bring the change they desire but haven’t thought it through. IMHO if they succeed they will unleash probably the worst regime in Nigerias history because the real agenda of the Obidient movement will take ove but they will be blamed. The only difference between the Obidient movement and the coup plotters is 1) the coup plotters were in the army and controlled weapons and 2) the failure of the 1966 coup brought negative consequences while the failure of the Obidients is a blessing.

Like I said, with what I know now. I have 98% certainty it was not an Ibo coup. It was just a series of unfortunate coincidences by young revolutionaries and Yorubas at the time looked down on joining the army, so naturally there would be more Ibos involved.

It was not who staged the coup that continues to be the problem but the actions thereafter.

Believeintruth:
Oga why are you avoiding his comment that there was a lot of rumors and conspiracy theories that led to the counter coup? This is the cherry picking to spin a narrative that is what you are doing.

I am not ignoring anything. Whatever he said he has stated clearly

“I may be wrong here since this view is speculative. I admit here that my views may be the views of a naive officer who viewed things from a distance”-IBB

If you search my post history, you will see where even I gave my reasons why I don’t think it started as an Ibo coup. But these are just opinions. They are not fact!


Let me explain something to you. Whether it was an Ibo coup or not is irrelevant for most Nigerians today. The real problem Ibos have is their current actions not whether 1966 coup was an Ibo coup or civil war. All that na story! Nobody cares, I certainly don’t! The problem is not what happened in 1966 or 197-70, the problem is what happens today and has been happening since approx 2015. The insulting of tribes, the Biafra agitation is a bigger problem for Ibos today that whatever May have happened between 1966-1970 or not. I wasn’t around in 1966, the concept of Ibo coup was never in my consciousness till recently. I grew up a Nigerian. I couldn’t care less whether it was an Ibo coup or not. What I care about is the vitriol from the Ibos and IPOB since 2015. That is a bigger hinderance for the Ibos in Nigeria than whether or not 1966 was an Ibo coup or not.

I am merely stating on record that Nabangida never stated these things as a FACT. Again he was clearly at great pains to say he was wrong, he was speculating and he was far removed from the events.

I can assure you most non Ibo Nigerians don’t care about whether it was an Ibo coup or not. What we care about is the stuff that has been coming out from the Ibos non-stop since 2015. That is what is fresh in our memories.

Believeintruth:
And also he stated that there were lots of rumor mongering and conspiracy theories which led to the counter coup.
Stop trying to spin a narrative

You are the one trying to spin a narrative. A man specifically says he is only speculating, he goes on to say he may be wrong. He then goes on to say he was distant from the planners of the coup.

His words are in black and white except you are saying I fabricated the images of the book below?

Are these my words or is it that you can’t read?

Believeintruth:
Guy you are just cherry picking parts to suit a narrative you are desperately trying to spin. IBB stated clearly that the coup was not an Igbo coup and he sited the killing of Lt Col Arthur Unegbe who was a senior army officer at that time by a fellow Igbo officer Maj Chris Anuforo in the presence of his pregnant wife.
On the allegation that igbos made jest of northerners calling then cowards, his book didn't substantiate it, he said that there was lots of rumors and Conspiracy theories at that time, and it culminated to the counter coup.

Oga cherry picking parts is pretending page 40 doesn’t exist. The man said clearly he is speculating, he said he may be wrong, he said he was distant from the events and the planners of the coup.

I am simply telling you the complete picture of what he said in the book

Believeintruth:
He said it was not an Igbo coup. He mentioned the killing of Lt Col Arthur Unegbe in the presence of his wife at Point road Apapa by a fellow Igbo Major Chris Anuforo

He said he was only speculating but that he could be wrong. Read the book.

“I may be wrong here since this view is speculative. I admit here that my views may be the views of a naive officer who viewed things from a distance”…IBB“

People are hanging on to page 39 and conveniently ignoring the conclusion in page 40.

Pages 39 and 40 are produced below. If you stop at page 39 without reading page 40 or deliberately ignoring page 40, you will conclude or deceive people into thinking he said for definite it wasn’t an Ibo coup.

That is not what he said. He specifically said he is expressing a view which is speculative and MAY be wrong! He never claimed it as a fact!

Babangida never said it wasn’t an Igbo coup. He said he was a naive young soldier far removed from the planners and events and that he was just stating his opinion and not as a matter of fact. In fact he said clearly he may be wrong.


Many of those claiming Babangida said it wasn’t a coup refer to page 39 of the book but they hide the conclusion of what he said on page 40.

JuanDeDios:
I don't think IBB is being honest. There were personal reasons bordering on the criminal for removing Buhari. He knows his motives were less than nationalistic.

I dont know how old you are but if you were old enough and aware enough of events during his reign you will know IBB is fundamentally incapable of honesty. he is deceitful by nature!