₦airaland Forum

Ikinternational:
So what do you call Uzodimma relection results🤔

What do you call Rivers voting 88% apc in the last general election 🤔

Ezigbo dey play

Try to use your brain (you do have one) and remove emotions when commenting.

Hopes first term Election had nothing to do with writing election results. His second term election the fraud (writing results) was detected but he still won even after they are cancelled. Which is my point that with BVAS and EC8, you cannot sit down in a room and write results without leaving evidence.

As for Rivers, please show where APC got 88% in Rivers presidential election. Last time I checked he got 44%.

ibechris:
What the north is cooking may not be too sweet for Tinubu.

The coalition would be unbreakable.

This mythical Northern vote and the idea that a small subset of the North determine the fate of Nigeria will be demystified once and for all in 2027.

Below is the reality of Nigeria.

seyigiggle:
very myopic comment

When you see a handle on Nairaland with yoruba in it. Just know it is an IPOB member. So myopia is not his behest problem but lack of brain cells.

He deserves to be impeached! Heaven will not fall! Though I can understand why they may decide not to.

Maxymilliano:
See who is talking ... This same Tony Okocha that confessed how they normally write election results

Everybody wrote election results in the past. Even Awolowo was not immune to writing results.

I stress “in the past”. It is almost impossible for you to write elections today without leaving evidence that’s why all those fictitious million votes from Akwa Ibom, rivers, Borno etc have disappeared.

Mynd44:
These politicians and their personal quests don't learn. You don't beat an incumbent by dividing yourself, you do so by coming together to fight.

SDP will not do anything but divide PDP and LP votes

This is how I see their plan:

Obi will remain in LP
Atiku will remain in PDP
ElRufai will try to pilot the affairs of SDP.

The 3 parties will present a consensus candidate for president. That candidate will be Atiku.

They will fail! Atiku as presidential candidate is why they failed in 2023 and it is why they will fail in 2027. Atiku as presidential candidate means every Northern PDP governor has no path to the presidency for 16 years so already there is a problem for Northern PDP governors like Bala Mohammed. Atiku as presidential candidate means loss of support of southerners PDP governors. So Atiku will again split PDP votes.

SDP has little influence politically and is merely a platform for ElRufai to leave APC and save face by not joining PDP.

So that leaves Obi and LP. Joining the coalition as a VP will alienate some of his supporters leaving him with mainly the core Ibo elements. Those non Ibos who naively thought Obi was different will now see him in partnership with Atiku rubbishes his constant efforts to seperate himself from the “culture of criminality”.

The long and short as relates to ElRufai is he neither removes votes from APC nor adds votes to the coalition. He is not a politician with followership. He is not a Kwakwanso!

aceman88:
They can never accept half of what they dish out

Hoelujohn:
Look at the way Akpabio was shouting like a street miscreant

They both commited the same offense. They were both wrong. The difference here is that Akpabio eventually realized he was wrong and apologized….Natasha still refuses to.

gigabyte13:
😅😅😂😂🤣🤣😂😅
🤣😂😂😅🤣😂😅🤣
PDP problem one Atiku
PDP problem two Wike
Remove those two from the party, PDP is safe as a political party.
If l be Wike lailai, l no go give PDP to Atiku after all the labour wey l put in for PDP
Atiku sef greedy
Take president
Give party chairman to the South, you no gree
Very very greedy and outdated politician.
May my enemies continue to be in confusion

PDP was always a flawed party. They are not inherently democrats. They are a creation of the military and they operate by via command and control, imposition, impunity and writing results. The minute there was a serious challenge to the status quo and they were compelled to aact in a democratic manner due to a new strong opposition, they fell apart and they cannot recover. The reason like I said is because they are not inherently a democratic party.

You can think of PDP as the political party of the pre 1999 military mafia. They have the military DNA. It worked while the opposition were weak and they were able to impose and rig. That’s the fundamental problem with PDP. As soon as it became difficult to rig, they started to implode.

The main difference between PDP and APC is that the typical PDP member will scatter things for the party if they don’t get their way whereas you are more likely to see the. APC man lick his wounds and work for the party……and before you mention ElRufai, ofcourse there are exceptions to every rule.

If you look at the core of APC, they have been in APC (AD, ANPP, APGA, CPC etc) even when they weren’t in power at the center. If you look at the core of PDP in their glory days, the majority have defected, are serial defectors, or engage in anti party activities. If you look at the few sources of strife in the APC, they are largely ex PDP members.

richiemcgold:
Somebody is not keeping to the initial agreement. He wants to play smart. That's all I see here.

Very likely events have overtaken the lawsuit but lawyers have not been instructed accordingly.

nairavsdollars:
Why not use banks and other good businesses? Why bend down select?

No worry yourselves about UK, they are fast becoming an inconsequential sheeeethole country!

Stolen:
AND U SEF CARRY SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNT GO GIVE THEM?


U PEOPLE WILL TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST BECAUSE ANYONE THEM CARRY COME, U GO JUST ACCEPT, NO QUESTIONS ASKED.


I FEAR THE KIND OF PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD PRESENTLY.

Typical exchange on Nairaland:

Me: Muslims have always been allowed to marry 4 wives. It’s not a new thing!

Daft Nairaland poster: U sef who told you to marry 4 wives?

Me: did I say to this eeediot that I am a Muslim or that I have 4 wives?

Abeg let us stop this experiment of teaching our students in English as it is clear they do not understand English and cannot communicate effectively.

This is not new. It has been required for ESTA to the US for Visa waiver countries eg UK for years.

The case is before the judiciary, it is now beyond what the senate can investigate, so the idea that Akpabio is presding over his own case is ridiculous.

Indigenous languages should be the primary language with English as a mandatory second language.


No nation has ever become great with another man’s language.

xpressionx:
This was what I was saying yesterday and one stupid idiot was talking rubbish.

Your disobeyed court order in order to punish someone who broke your laws.

Look for and Watch the interview of Cletus obum on Arise. He explained it so brilliantly that the 2 arise TV interviewers were speechless. And even I who thought they disobeyed court order realized one needs to be careful when listening to lawyers on TV. Just as in a court one lawyer will argue one way the other will argue the other, lawyers are merely giving opinions and often their opinions are not thorough.

nedu666:
Are all Nigerian leaders who bought dollars with stolen money not holding on to their dollars. Has those with Swiss, Monaco, Jersey bank accounts sold their dollars. Worry about your leaders with hundreds of millions of dollars not ordinary Nigerians with few hundred dollars

You people must always get emotional and situate every discussion outside its frame of reference.

If my my money is stolen and I take it abroad (assuming I can because it is harder to take money abroad) I won’t care because it was stolen money in the 1st place.

The reality is that with international money laundering laws, most looted money is in Nigeria sitting in dollars waiting for an opportunity to launder it either into Nigerian assets or for elections. When was the last time you heard about a Nigerian public official caught abroad trying to move dollars or buying property in Ghana, SA, London or Dubai? It’s happens but it a lot lot harder. Ordinary £5,000 international transfer, your UK bank will ask you to explain where the money came from. If you even attempt to pay in cash of £5,000, I can almost guarantee your account will be closed. So long as the intent is to use that money in Nigeria, one day they will have to convert at a loss.

As the the unpatriotic whose money was legitimate, same story, they will convert to Naira one day and take the L!

helinues:
Those who are hoarding dollars would cry bitterly soon

Imagine those who bought @N1900-2000. Some are still holding not knowing it was an aberration and we will never see Naira at that level again. When it gets to N1200, they will all panic and sell their
$s causing Naira to rise even further.

Fair value of the Naira is somewhere between N800 and N1200.

Anyone who understands finance and simple economics should have started to liquidate any cash dollar holding the minute Dangote refinery started functioning.

ufotunang:
... have investigation been done by the Senate to verify if she is really saying the truth or not

That’s a different matter. She was suspenders for breaching the rules of the senate and bringing the senate into oppobrium. She was not suspended because of the accusations of sexual harassment.

The matter of sexual harassment will be determined by the court.

109 senators, 50 senators from 7 different opposition parties, 37 from your own party, 3 other female senators! None supported you!

Sometimes you need to be able to read the room and realize you messed up!

EponObi:
Tor

With time, I believe the public with see who Natasha really is. The issue is many people are too emotional for politics. It's why people like Tinubu will continue using them and their proprietress (abi na principal) to wipe the floor. Lmaooo

The hate for this administration and Akpabio, men with ridiculous high levels of estrogen and weak men who operate without reasoning at the sight of women and p.unani, and emotional women thinking they are supporting their fellow gender are all reasons many people couldn't/won't see clearly on this matter.

Assuming Akpabio is guilty, he outsmarted all of them and Natasha right there on his seat without lifting a finger. Lmaoo. Natasha made it too easy for him.

Remember when Senator Cyril Fasuyi said Natasha wrongly accused Fayemi of selling Ajaokuta and a litigation is coming her way? Do you remember what she did? She said "she never accused Fayemi of sexual harassment" Lmaoo. That's the kind of person you are dealing with. I want to assume many manipulative beings eat a lot of you for launch out there, at work, in business, in social settings etc because I was shocked to read the opinions of many on this issue. Many of you are doomed if you operate in the real world with the brain you used to analyze this matter over the past few weeks.

The most irrational and funny bunch were those calling for Akpabio resignation because of an allegation that Natasha didn't/hasn't provided a single evidence. Una too mumu I swear 🤣

Edit: BTW, that Dr Funmilayo called OurFavOnlineDoc on Twitter, another jezebel hand go soon touch am again because him no get sense. False sexual allegation almost finished his life and career years ago; he battled for years to have his name cleared and get justice. But here he is now supporting this same Natasha over mere allegation without evidence. Darwin's law of evolution by natural selection will ever remain relevant in everything sha.

I said it in several threads that Natasha has done a disservice to women. People are too simple minded to understand the implications for women.

The man effectively said he is sorry he helped her get a position she did not deserve and wasn’t entitled to as a 1st term senator. Sensible men are going to be cautious helping women on the ladder and giving them opportunities as a result.

Adebishow:
Brother, I try to look at issues critically and carefully, with allowance for error, but I endeavour to be accurate.

I was almost certain that Natasha should face the consequences of her unruly, disrespectful and disruptive behavior in the Senate on that day.

However, I hope she has enough evidence to nail the Senate President in the court of law with respect to the sexual harassment. Because if she can't prove it, Apabio's wife already filed a case against her.

The court may also award damages against her in favor of the Senate president.

She will be in a deep mess

exactly, the court is the place to resolve the matter! i like what 1 senator said " the senate president is the 3rd most powerful person in Nigeria and any, any senator can find himself a senate president" so the conduct of senators is important. if a senator is guilty of sexual harrasment, they should throw the book at him by the same token a senator cannot be shouting and behaving in such an uncouth manner like natasha and if she cannot prove her allegations they should throw the book at her!

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Bigboytinz:
This is a very good lesson to her. She had clearly disgraced the senate and all Nigerians. If you have an issue with any one settle it outside the national assembly. The international community is watching. How do you want then to view Nigerians? She wasn't diplomatic in anyway and has not shown any form of intelligence. Nigeria has and had had way way more successful women than her. Doing well globally. She's lucky they ruled she can send in an apology.

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if you listened to what the members of the opposition said, what the senator from Kogi said, you will know it is herself and women she disgraced.

I am watching the whole thing on YouTube, forget whether you are a woman or a man, apc,PDP Labour or whatever.

This is a moment of shame for her! Your Kogi caucus apologizing for her behaviour and stating she has always been causing trouble amongst fellow senators, the opposition leader apologizing for her behaviour. Nobody speaking on her behalf.
All are not opposed to her suspension, one even saying he is opposed to any leniency.

the kogi senator even apologizing for lobbying Akapbio to make her a committee chairman when he said she was a rookie....saying he regrets it. He said she rained abuses him and his mother.

It is shameful! Dont be pushed by the devil!

She came first time and disrupted the senate because she failed to observe procedures. Then she tried to blackmail the senate by presenting a petition and could not even follow the procedures for laying petitions.

Like someone asked, even if she doesn’t know, does she not have aides?

Sobalim:
Failed country ruled by a drug baron

I hope you know the chairman of the committee and the person who recommended her suspension is a LP member?

Fantastic! She thought the senate is a place for social media skits!

Gudiza:
It's false regardless. It took only a google search to know that. Maybe someone should be sued.
Not trying to make an argument here but simple discourse. The point in my initial submission was that ur quote wasn't factual to which I think you've recanted...

My follow up was to acknowledge that we might have genuine reasons to be on either side of the divide. I mean, everyone has a lens through which they generally approach issues. Perhaps out of experience, you have been falsely accused by a female before maybe wife, girlfriend, employee etc. your path tends towards Akpabio. But if you've had a sister, cousin, niece go through the trauma of sexually harassment guess where you'd be? Then u add previous antecedents... So yeah, we just need proof.

Also, we'd be lying to ourselves to ignore the undertones in the broader Nigerian context (natural faultlines) to which this issue has played out, which unfortunately, carpets the need for a free/fair hearing and required changes to be done. You see North Vs South, North Central against South South play out, Niger Delta women go up in arms & Arewa do likewise, You see CAN ginger up, you might see MURIC, I don't know. So it becomes a regional/geo-political/socio-cultural/religious fvckfest! & that's naija for u.

My 2cents. Cheers

If there is one thing about me I verify before I post, I slipped up this time because like I said, this info was from The mouth of the deputy chief whip of the senate .
Oga I am not interested in emotion and not here to debate conjuncture. I have never been accused of sexual harassment because I am careful in my interactions with women.

The problem with Nigerians is they are always unable to seperate the facts on ground and introduce their biases.

I am simply interested in facts instead of trial by media.

You say you were sexually assaulted and you say you have evidence. Provide the evidence and let us have peace.

I am not interested in he said she said.

Gudiza:
100%. Any sexual harassment claim should be investigated. Yeah, On the current issues we cast ASPERSIONS on both Akpabio & Natasha following their track record but saying she has 6 kids from 6 diff fathers or whatever is JUST NOT FACTUAL! (actually defamatory)

She's a lawyer so she should know better.
If she says she has proof, then let court jurispudence take its full course. As they also say, it's not about what actually transpired, it's about what YOU CAN PROVE. I will also be disappointed if Natasha doesn't have the proof as she says. But, the slander on the woman's character or timing of lawsuit is just mehh... Would someone really kick all of this media storm because of a mere seat? Maybe, I think NOT.

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I am responsible for what I said and any errors in them, I am
Not responsible for you misconstruing what I said. Six children from different fathers is not the same as six children from six different fathers. In any event it appears, it may be 4 children (not six) from different fathers. However my comment was based on a fellow senator in no other than the deputy chief whip who came on AriseTV to say she had 6 children from different men.

Be consistent, she is supposed to be a lawyer but she clearly goofed in 2 weeks on basic parliamentary proceedure? Because someone is a lawyer doesn’t mean anything. I am a qualified civil engineer, I never practiced, a lot of what I learnt I have forgotten so if I make comments about road construction and you take it as gospel the joke is on you!

The only thing we agree in is he who alleges must prove and for me the book, the kitchen sink and all closely available materials must be thrown at whoever is wrong in this matter!

Gudiza:
Maybe nothing will come out of it, but this one, he would definitely regret in some other quarters.
This is the most highly profile woman he has played his card on and he will swallow a bit of sand.

Say no to Rumor! She is a mother of three adult children...I remember your principal when previously accused of sexual harassment by then NDDC Director, his rebuttal was She's had 4 husbands... ehmm, but how does that correlate with your professional relationship, Why invite them to your private lounges, Why ALWAYS YOU Well, we know the game...Is Called Slander! It goes without saying that we expect better from the Senate President to NOT patronize even a street hooker.

You say she is a mother of 3 adult children, she had a baby for her present husband recently so that is at least 4.

Akpabio is not my principal. You can’t on one hand be saying “say no to rumour” while at the same time pronouncing guilt on a man based on unproven allegations.

You can’t on the one hand pronounce guilt on Akpabio based on previous unproven allegations of sexual harassment and ignore that Natasha has a documented history of making false sexual allegation claims the most famous of which was against Reno.

If character and previous behavior is being called to question, it should be called to question on both parties.

If he is guilty throw the book at him but don’t destroy a man because you are a woman and you can divert attention away from your failings on the seating arrangements by bringing up trumped up charges of sexual assault.

He who alleges must prove!

Ojuntana:
The way you think sef
So a contractor knew that a commissioner had no legal right to sign a contract yet he signed for him and he collected the money. And that contractor is not guilty of fraud according to you

When you see my name just walk on by, I am only interested in engaging intelligent people. A trait you have shown you do not posses.

This is not a partisan statement but in a sane society, Fubara would be jailed for life and all his personal assets seized.

This is the kind of executive recklessness that exposes governments to future lawsuits like the pi&d, ogun state plane brouhaha etc.

However because of the strategic importance of oil to our economy and because he is an ijaw man he won’t even be impeached.

You can ignore any “official” communication from any appointee that was not properly confirmed that does not favour you because it has no legal backing. That person does not exist in the eyes of the law so the content of his communication is null and void! Can you imagine the implications?