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Nigerians are tribalists. Deal with it. The Holy Ghost doesn't touch that part.

I personally know 2 people who died of breast cancer. They were eating sour sop and the leaves. If you're sick, go to a hospital. There's no scientific research or proof that sour sop kills cancer cells. Be wise.
Those guys just want to make money. They don't care about your ailment, they won't ask you to come for follow up to see if their soursop is working. Be wise

I personally know 2 people who died of breast cancer. They were eating sour sop and the leaves. If you're sick, go to a hospital. There's no scientific research or proof that sour sop kills cancer cells. Be wise.
Those guys just want to make money. They don't care about your ailment, they won't ask you to come for follow up to see if their soursop is working. Be wise

The last time this happened, Africans were brutalised in Russia and Ukraine as revenge. I see that happening again.

Explorers:
Freezing Experiments.



To investigate the most effective means of treating persons who had been severely chilled or frozen.

The victims were forced to remain in a tank of ice water for up to 3 hours.

Extreme rigor developed in a short time.

Numerous victims died in the course of these experiments. After the survivors were severely chilled, rewarming was attempted by various means.

In another series of experiments, the victims were kept naked outdoors for many hours at temperatures below freezing.

The victims screamed with pain as their bodies froze.

His works in this particular experiment became the drawing board for coming up with the treatment for hypothermia. He did it when nobody else would.

The impending antibiotics apocalypse in Nigerian Healthcare and the Malaria & Typhoid Diagnosis Debacle.

So, a patient came in with the test result of a Urine Microscopy/Culture/Sensitivity test, There was significant growth of a bacteria that was resistant to everything. I mean your Penicillins, Ceftriaxones, Ciprofloxacins, Azithromycins, Gentamicins, about 10 different antibiotics were tested, I just shipped the patient off to a Teaching Hospital. This is the 2nd time it's happening in 2 years.
This got me wondering. Why won't we have antibiotics resistance in our practice when they are as common as candy as is readily available to every Tom, Dick and Harry that wants one, without even presenting a prescription?
Just walk into any Pharmacy or Chemist (Chemists a.k.a Patent Medicine shops aren't even supposed to stock antibiotics to begin with) and ask for one, they'll gladly give you. You can buy any drug you want over the counter in Nigeria including Chemotherapy drugs (for treating cancer) which are supposed to be tightly controlled.
Antibiotics are so much abused to the extent that people don't even complete their dosage, They use 3 or 4 tablets and dump the rest. We all have unfinished packs of Ampiclox and Ciprofloxacin on our nightstands.
The Popular Ampiclox should be taken every 6 hours, people rarely do that.
I've seen people use antibiotics for a myriad of health issues that don't even need antibiotics for example
1) To clean the "system" after menstruation (as if your body is a V6 engine that needs oil change)
2) To clean the "system" after having unprotected sex ( I still don't know this system they keep referring to)
3) As emergency contraception after unprotected sex (Has Postinor and all his brothers finished in the pharmacy?)
4) For the almighty Nigerian "Toilet Infection" (Which is almost always vulvovaginal candidiasis, a fungal infection)
5) For a clean cut, injury or bruise.
6) For cold, cough and cattarh (Which is caused by a virus, unless it becomes cross infected with a bacteria, your actifeds and procolds and cough syrup will do the trick).
The Pharmacists who are supposed to be the gate keepers preventing us from the apocalypse instead of doing their jobs are busy trying to call themselves consultants and trying to close down pharmacies owned by doctors, Which brings me to the biggest abuse of antibiotics in our country.
7) The Malaria and Typhoid Diagnosis. Just walk in to any private or Primary/Secondary healthcare center and complain that you have Fever, body pain, bitter taste in the mouth, bla bla bla and mistakenly mention vomiting, abdominal pain and diarrhea. They'll instantly give you a diagnosis of Malaria and Typhoid which begs the question, since when did Vomiting, abdominal pain and diarrhea cease to be a symptom of Acute Malaria? Check medscape if you feel I'm wrong. A prescription for antimalarials and Ciprofloxacin(an antibiotic) is given to cure the non-existent Typhoid. It has gotten so bad that people now go to Pharmacies to buy Ciprofloxacin plus antimalarials whenever they have even the slightest symptom of Malaria because to them, it's Malaria and Typhoid. I can't even begin to count how many times patients showed me a pack of Ciprofloxacin as the antimalarial that they are using. It is that bad. To further solidify this charade, They'll ask for a Widal test which is the most useless test ever as far as I'm concerned, because a Single Widal test means absolutely nothing because anything that will give you a fever will give you a significant Widal titre including, you've guessed it, Malaria! A Widal test is done then repeated to check for Doubled titres in 10 to 14 days time to clinch the diagnosis, that is if the preferred diagnostic work up like Bone marrow and Blood culture isn't available.

The impending antibiotics apocalypse in Nigerian Healthcare and the Malaria & Typhoid Diagnosis Debacle.
So, a patient came in with the test result of a Urine Microscopy/Culture/Sensitivity test, There was significant growth of a bacteria that was resistant to everything. I mean your Penicillins, Ceftriaxones, Ciprofloxacins, Azithromycins, Gentamicins, about 10 different antibiotics were tested, I just shipped the patient off to a Teaching Hospital. This is the 2nd time it's happening in 2 years.
This got me wondering. Why won't we have antibiotics resistance in our practice when they are as common as candy as is readily available to every Tom, Dick and Harry that wants one, without even presenting a prescription?
Just walk into any Pharmacy or Chemist (Chemists a.k.a Patent Medicine shops aren't even supposed to stock antibiotics to begin with) and ask for one, they'll gladly give you. You can buy any drug you want over the counter in Nigeria including Chemotherapy drugs (for treating cancer) which are supposed to be tightly controlled.
Antibiotics are so much abused to the extent that people don't even complete their dosage, They use 3 or 4 tablets and dump the rest. We all have unfinished packs of Ampiclox and Ciprofloxacin on our nightstands.
The Popular Ampiclox should be taken every 6 hours, people rarely do that.
I've seen people use antibiotics for a myriad of health issues that don't even need antibiotics for example
1) To clean the "system" after menstruation (as if your body is a V6 engine that needs oil change)
2) To clean the "system" after having unprotected sex ( I still don't know this system they keep referring to)
3) As emergency contraception after unprotected sex (Has Postinor and all his brothers finished in the pharmacy?)
4) For the almighty Nigerian "Toilet Infection" (Which is almost always vulvovaginal candidiasis, a fungal infection)
5) For a clean cut, injury or bruise.
6) For cold, cough and cattarh (Which is caused by a virus, unless it becomes cross infected with a bacteria, your actifeds and procolds and cough syrup will do the trick).
The Pharmacists who are supposed to be the gate keepers preventing us from the apocalypse instead of doing their jobs are busy trying to call themselves consultants and trying to close down pharmacies owned by doctors, Which brings me to the biggest abuse of antibiotics in our country.
7) The Malaria and Typhoid Diagnosis. Just walk in to any private or Primary/Secondary healthcare center and complain that you have Fever, body pain, bitter taste in the mouth, bla bla bla and mistakenly mention vomiting, abdominal pain and diarrhea. They'll instantly give you a diagnosis of Malaria and Typhoid which begs the question, since when did Vomiting, abdominal pain and diarrhea cease to be a symptom of Acute Malaria? Check medscape if you feel I'm wrong. A prescription for antimalarials and Ciprofloxacin(an antibiotic) is given to cure the non-existent Typhoid. It has gotten so bad that people now go to Pharmacies to buy Ciprofloxacin plus antimalarials whenever they have even the slightest symptom of Malaria because to them, it's Malaria and Typhoid. I can't even begin to count how many times patients showed me a pack of Ciprofloxacin as the antimalarial that they are using. It is that bad. To further solidify this charade, They'll ask for a Widal test which is the most useless test ever as far as I'm concerned, because a Single Widal test means absolutely nothing because anything that will give you a fever will give you a significant Widal titre including, you've guessed it, Malaria! A Widal test is done then repeated to check for Doubled titres in 10 to 14 days time to clinch the diagnosis, that is if the preferred diagnostic work up like Bone marrow and Blood culture isn't available.
I am not saying that cases of Genuine Typhoid enteritis don't exist, but it is not as common as some Doctors and healthcare workers would want to make you believe due to their quest to bill patients higher for Malaria treatment and justify the billing. It is unjust to subject every patient wi

YUSUPH1986:
Good day, pls can someone help me out on this, i made some effort to withdraw from thinking bad about people, having feelings for woman. Now, everything does not attract my attention even those things i like doing before, as if i have lost my emotion. I am someone who used to be too emotional, it happens like 3 weeks ago, as if i am isolated, i used to feel extremely affected when am hungry but now, even if i am famished, i will jxt feel the pain small, even if i got annoyed by someone, i dont feel pain anymore unlike before, to the extent that if i saw frighten things i will feel nothing as against how i feel before, i have been to the health centre of our school, they seems not to understand me, 3weeks ago, i noticed i didnt have a refreshing sleep, that whenever i woke up in the morning it will be as if i had not sleep at all. Bt 3 days ago i took a drug that made the situation to improve but how i feel does not improve, as if i dont have any emotion, it is affecting my academics, and every part of my life, social , religion and the likes, i dont feel fulfil again pls someone should come to my aid.

See a psychiatrist bro. This is textbook depression

My fellow Nigerians, Artemisinin Combination Therapy (ACT)/Lumartem/Coartem is safe throughout pregnancy.
http://www.tropmedres.ac/artemisinins-should-replace-quinine-for-first-trimester-malaria-treatment-says-new-study
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4835584/
https://malariajournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1475-2875-13-197
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4835584/

DoctorsOfficeNg:
Quite blunt to say. Such attitude wouldn't solve the problem. Yes! It is still a burden but rome wasn't built in a day. Culture cannot be changed abruptly. Why not we see ways in which these TBA are better enlightened themselves. Like it or not, They handle hundreds of deliveries each day higher than hospitals or clinics.

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What do you suggest is the solution because obviously, sensitization campaigns and near free of charge child delivery at hospitals obviously isn't working.
The most painful part is that a nurse (University graduate, not the auxiliary ones) died yesterday while patronising these TBAs

Any educated Nigerian woman that dies at childbirth at a Traditional Birth Attendant's workshop thoroughly deserves it.
I'm done crying for women, friends and acquaintances who despite being educated and exposed still patronise quacks for childbirth. If they die, they deserve it.
I don't know why they run away from hospitals for childbirth, is there anything wrong with having the baby in a hospital? I don't even want to get started with the aversion to C.S and their favorite mantra "I shall deliver like the Hebrew women". The funny thing is that you'll see Masters &PhD holders, nurses, healthcare personnels, relatives and friends of healthcare personnels that die while patronising the Traditional Birth Attendants.
I've practiced medicine for 3 years in Nigeria and I've only seen one death at childbirth in that period.
I'm done crying. If you die, you thoroughly deserve it.

frosbel2:

It's a self fulfilling prophecy

So, punch use nairaland for their journalism. Who knew
http://punchng.com/2016-prophecies-off-mark/
The quote:
An anonymous person wrote, “It’s almost the end of the year and we are yet to see the newly minted sexually transmitted disease that Daddy G.O promised us. And no, Ebola doesn’t count. Ebola has been sexually transmitted in Africa for years.”

https://www.nairaland.com/3533126/new-std-pastor-adeboye-promised

Orikinla1:
Just remove Pastor E. A. Adeboye from the list, except you are ignorant and intellectually re-tarded, because new deadly STD was reported in 2016.



New Information about Antibiotic-Resistant Gonorrhea

Cluster of Neisseria Gonorrhoeae Isolates with High-Level Azithromycin Resistance and Decreased Ceftriaxone Susceptibility Conference Abstract
New Warning Signs that Gonorrhea Treatment May be Losing Effectiveness, Press release (September 21, 2016)
Addressing the Threat of Drug-Resistant Gonorrhea, Fact Sheet
2015 STD Surveillance Report (October 19, 2016)

Sexually Transmitted Diseases - Information from CDC

https://www.cdc.gov/std/

Brother, please, no vex. Since when did gonorrhea turn to a new STD? I'm sure you yourself knows someone that had gonorrhea in the past. SMH

Thank you. Later now, Nigerians will be shouting Toilet Infection upandan. They won't talk about phone, money, remote, door handle and steering wheel Infections. Mtscheeew

Sure, man.

LETTER TO THE SANCTIMONIOUS NIGERIANS
The Hypocrisy Of Your Silence Is Deafening

Do you know that DOCTORS in different Teaching hospitals, and Federal medical centers, across NIGERIA are being owed months of salaries?

In this critical times of economic hardship, on the backdrop of a recession!

Do you know that they have been doing their work diligently since then? In spite of!

Do you know they've been sending delegates ever since then, trying to DIALOGUE with the powers that be?



I bet you don't; I bet you don't care; I bet you don't give a rat's ass! You're too engrossed in your pretty, or ugly [as the case may be], little life to take notice; too engrossed to even raise your head for a brief moment in sympathy.

Well, I just hope that you will remain that engrossed if, and when, they eventually decide that enough is enough, and embark on a Nationwide industrial action to protest for their rights.

I hope so for YOUR SAKE! Because if at such a time you suddenly have some time to spare, to take to whatever media outlet is available to you [ including FB, Twitter, Instagram, Television and Radio stations, and newspapers], to rant about the "selfish" and "inconsiderate" Nigerian doctors , and remind them of the oath they took starve ; thunderstorms from Amadioha and Sango will incise your Peri-sylvian cortex with laser-like precision, giving you the GLOBAL APHASIA that is befitting of your hypocritical mutism.



When you see these things happen, know ye that it was a first class Wizard, in the order of Hippocrates, that made these pronunciations today.

Amen!


1. This is not directed to any particular person, and as such it is not a "sub," or whatever you children of anger call it these days. Elders like us don't do subs. We lay curses, and send the spirits to do our bidding.



2. The "curses" herein will only afflict those who are quiet now, but will raise a voice against doctors if, and when, they decide to embark on a strike.



3. For aversion of the curses, or redirection to your enemies, I will accept nothing less than a giant unicorn that farts the seven colors of the rainbow. A drunken elephant will suffice, as would 72 virgins whose bedmatics would rival that of the goddess Aphrodite [don't ask me how the virgins would know so much about sex; you go figure!]



PEACE to all men of goodwill
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felixomor:
Look at someone who didnt even know what certification is before this thread.

What were the 3 cases?
And why was it not certified?

And if u give me any long story, accept that you are foolish.

I've painstakingly replied to all your mentions, you still don't want to learn. What next will you ask me? The names of the 3 patients?

felixomor:
U r the one who derailed, for argument sake
Sticking with the topic.
A new disease described by one person, doesnt make it a disease. It has to be notified and certified.
Otherwise, we would all be arguing.

And then i used david as example because it suits.
A new king was already anointed and samuel (1 person) already knew. But that did not make David the certified King of Israel.
It took another prophecy to foretell the death of Saul and also the official certification of David as king, before David was officially certified.

If u want to argue further, continue.
I think this is already Overflogged.

Brother, 3 cases is the burden of proof in medicine. Prove 3 cases and you're certified. They've had more than 3 cases of sexually transmitted Zika virus before 2008. Take it or leave it. Your man goofed, accept and move on.

Greg007:
If you didn't experience economic improvement. My dear I did, most ppl think is when they buy a car is den dey Ve experienced economic improvement. Too many low thinkers in Nigeria. So many will still remain where dey are because they want God to feed them and nothing comes they will say Na fake prophecy. Sorry 4 u and if u follow d news this yr very well u will not be here talking nonsense. Don't let God keep u one place because of making front page with useless topic.

The thread was clearly about STD which you failed to address

KingEbukasBlog:
When was it discovered to be an STD ? Or are you like the rest of them who can't comprehend simple questions ?

For it to be isolated in patients with non gonococcal urethritis means it's an STD. From Chlamydia to gonorrhea alll cause urethritis which is an STD. All non gonococcal urethritis are STDs. And it was demonstrated in 1981

KingEbukasBlog:
And when was it discovered to be an STD ?

Here, if you are too lazy to read the whole article.
Mycoplasma genitalium was originally isolated in 1980 from urethral specimens of two male patients suffering from non-gonococcal urethritis in the genitourinary medicine (GUM) clinic at St Mary's Hospital, Paddington, London.[22][23] It was reported in 1981 by a team led by Joseph G. Tully.
If you want some explanations concerning some terms there, it would be my pleasure.

KingEbukasBlog:
There's a new STD called Mycoplasma Genitalium , does it count

Mycoplasma Genitalium was first reported in the '80s
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycoplasma_genitalium
Watch @KingEbukasBlog and the rest ignore this post.

shaqhead:
hahahahahaha...I greet u bro?

I greet you too.

felixomor:
My God.
So STds are not infectious diseases abi?

Chaiiiii.
Just rest bro.

Just read the link you posted from top to bottom. I take God beg you.

felixomor:
Get educated

http://www.abim.org/certification/policies/internal-medicine-subspecialty-policies/infectious-disease.aspx

How does the link affect the discussion? It's for infectious disease subspecialty for internal medicine consultants

shaqhead:
Son ur analogy doesnt stand a chance against the position of the World's medical community-even you wouldnt take ur analogy outside nairaland! So pls give it a rest!

I'm a medical doctor. Oya comman beat me

shaqhead:
@CatfishBilly @felixmor I guess this settles it!

Read my HIV analogy again. That the medical community just generally accepted it doesn't mean that it hasn't been sexually transmitted long before they chose to accept it.
Like Dr. Omalu's CTE, that it was just accepted doesn't mean it hasn't been in existence. The old name was Dementia Pugilistica cos they thought it happened to only boxers.

felixomor:
Tuberculosis can be found in body fluid, its not Sexually transmissible.

Simple question?
When was it found to be sexually transmissible?

If u cant answer,
Stop the noise.

Refer to the HIV analogy, if you understood it very well, You won't be typing this. And as for your claim that The sexually transmitted Ebola is different from the "Regular" Ebola, is just preposterous. As in a new Genus and Specie of Ebola came out or what?

felixomor:
"Zika have been killing for decades in Africa"

Hahaha, i laugh.
I can see the desperation.
Rest bro.
When was zika and ebola found to be Sexually transmissible?

I used HIV as an example. If you still don't want to understand, I can't go lower than that, I'm sorry.

felixomor:
There is some level of ignorance here obviously.

When was Ebola discovered to be sexually transmissible?

Did u hear of the Zika virus disease?

And then what was the need for prayer, if u still wanted the disease to show up anyway?

Some people are dull.

I knew this would come.
So, let me use HIV/AIDS as an example.
HIV was clinically proven to be the causative agent of AIDS in the 1980s. With every mode of transmission therein, it was published in the medical journals and was widely accepted, just like your Ebola and Zika. Was that the discovery/first case of HIV/AIDS? Absolutely not. HIV first appeared in medical journals in 1929, researchers tracing the origins of HIV traced it to the DRC in the 1900s. That was the origin of HIV. Same case with your Ebola and Zika. They've been in Africa killing people for decades, I'm sure there's an obscure journal somewhere written by an African Doctor that mentions that sexual route is a likely mode of transmission.