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PoliticsRe: Biafran National Team Winning The AFCON Cup by cfours: 5:23am On Feb 12, 2013
drnoel: my brother, some people in NL are really very very sick. There is something really wrong with some Nigerians
I concur
PoliticsRe: Can The United States Of Africa Still Be Created? by cfours: 5:20am On Feb 12, 2013
Rossikk: It is not a question of IF but WHEN the nations of Africa will unite under a single political nationality. The African nationality.

It is part of the AU Charter. All AU nations are signatory to it IN PRINCIPLE. Debates are only ongoing over the speed of the process.
Gaddafi is dead, bro.
United States of Africa was his brain-child.


I think we should focus our energies on making our individual countries work first. why put the cart before the horse?
PoliticsRe: The Little Known Mass Suicide Of Igbo Slaves In Savannah Georgia by cfours: 5:09am On Feb 12, 2013
Dudu_Negro: i believe redsun is talking about honor killings. in war, outnumbered and overpowered soldiers would fight to a dead-end but if their opponent seek to capture them to use for propaganda and humiliation then they would commit suicide first than be captured.

there is also family honor, where if a pedigree blood (restricted gene pool) has been tainted usually through sexual contact with a crossbreed, then suicide is commited to save family name and legacy.

now, which one of the suicide victims were armies of biafra and which ones were daughters of the biafran emperor?
this topic is not about war. look at the topic title, bro. it's about african americans.
many of them have igbo ancestry and apparently a few of them commited suicide. lol

besides, I stand by my belief. suicide is dumb. whether in war or not. The only exception I'll take are mentally ill persons. or people who are hopeless and despondent. aka people who have no hope in life or suffering from extreme depression. this goes back again to mental illness thing.
the "pedigree blood" stuff is cracking me up grin
Nairaland GeneralRe: So My Home Ip-address Can't Access Nairaland.....why's That? by cfours: 4:59am On Feb 12, 2013
you sound very paranoid.
go and check your internet bill like ileke-idi suggested.
and maybe your IP was banned. and so? you are not the first and won't be the last.
are you getting "Gateway 504" error? I get that when NL doesn't work for me.



Freewilly: You should be happy it's only IP they are targeting.You can never be too careful with those offemmanu folks, I'm just saying ohhhhhh!!
what osu forest did this ugly dog-meat eater appear from? why don't you get back to the bathroom and finish shaving your hairy brea.sts. FOOL
PoliticsRe: Ohanaeze Berates Lagos Over Ban On Eze Ndigbo by cfours: 4:48am On Feb 12, 2013
Eze Ndigbo Title Holders Face Arrest In Lagos
Anyone who parades himself as Eze Ndigbo in Lagos is now to be arrested as the ban placed on the use of the title is still in force.
The Lagos State government, which ordered the arrest of any Igbo chief who parades himself with the title, made this known at a recent meeting with representatives of Igbo speaking community in the state.
The State Commissioner for Local Government and Chieftaincy Affairs, Prince Rotimi Agunsoye, who addressed the meeting emphasised that anyone driving a vehicle with the inscription, His Royal Majesty, Eze Ndigbo, or poses as one, a title already proscribed by the state government, would be arrested for flouting the laws of the state.
“If you go to Rome, you live like the Romans. If you go to the United Kingdom where they have their laws, do you now take your own laws there and operate it? No”, he argued.
An Igbo high chief, Innocent Ohri, who spoke at the meeting, said the issue of Eze Ndigbo was beyond debate as they have dissolved all factions until an election was held. He continued that they were attending the meeting to get more clarification from government.
Said Mrs. Ifeoma Oguine, Women leader of Igbo Community, Lagos State: “We don’t support Eze Ndigbo, we won’t take the state government to court. Those fighting to retain the title are doing so for their own selfish interest. Their actions are now depriving us of what we should get from the state government”.

http://www.thetidenewsonline.com/2009/06/26/eze-ndigbo-title-holders-face-arrest-in-lagos/


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wow. how did I miss this?this is an overkill I must say. did they actually make arrests? huh shocked
PoliticsRe: The Little Known Mass Suicide Of Igbo Slaves In Savannah Georgia by cfours: 4:37am On Feb 12, 2013
redsun: And that is why you dont know it is honorable to kill oneself
LOL ok. suicide is NOT and can never be honorable.
suicide is for people who have lost their life's meaning and are hopeless and defeated. I am paraphrasing a Holocaust survivor. not my words tongue
PoliticsRe: The Little Known Mass Suicide Of Igbo Slaves In Savannah Georgia by cfours: 7:09am On Feb 11, 2013
it's past your bedtime. go to sleep kiddo.
PoliticsRe: The Little Known Mass Suicide Of Igbo Slaves In Savannah Georgia by cfours: 7:03am On Feb 11, 2013
Crayola1: Maybe he did. Ojukwu had a daughter from a relationship with a Northern lady, so obviously he didn't hate Northerners outright tongue

If you hate Igbo people are you going to give your child an Igbo name? Same for and group you dislike or are you going to pretend for the internets today?
LOL. what is this one saying. even the most putrid slave owners had kids with their black slaves.

I don't hate igbos. but I do hate biafrans. point of clarification.
and why would I give my chidren ugly names like Chukwuchibike when there are tons of beautiful yoruba names to pick from. Even Azikiwe couldn't resist.
how old are you anyway. you type as if you are no more than 16 yrs old. huh
I'm not really here to exchange sentences with a teenager. so chao
PoliticsRe: The Little Known Mass Suicide Of Igbo Slaves In Savannah Georgia by cfours: 6:54am On Feb 11, 2013
Crayola1: Lol see how these folks complain. You say Igbo people are tribalist, then an Igbo guy gives his son a Yoruba name and you are still not satisfied cheesy
If I say igbo people are tribalist, I am referring to something else other than giving your children yoruba names. duh did he also have a child with an Hausa name?
PoliticsRe: The Little Known Mass Suicide Of Igbo Slaves In Savannah Georgia by cfours: 6:50am On Feb 11, 2013
why did Azikiwe give his child a yoruba name anyway. that's weird
Bamidele Azikiwe. lol
PoliticsRe: The Little Known Mass Suicide Of Igbo Slaves In Savannah Georgia by cfours: 6:46am On Feb 11, 2013
Dudu_Negro: ibo was a derogatory name for a people despised by their more assertive and warring neighbors who captured and sold them into slavery. it was not a name or a group that people in the east wanted to be associated with.

the coming of europeans changed the local power dynamics between the ruler and the ruled. ibos were the ruled. this is why pre-europeans there is nothing in antiquity to give them parity to the great african kingdoms that ruled across many lands and took trouble to their rivals with decisive wins and domination.

the nigerian civil war was the first time igbo people raised arms against an indigenous african nation. the preparation and the outcome says plenty on how igbos view wars.

following their defeat, they acquired new knowledge in the value of nationalism. this new knowledge gave them a drive in the search for an igbo national symbol and tangible elements of greatness on which to stand tall and stand proud.

the yoruba and hausa models of great society was thus copied for domestic application. for its global representation and image the yoruba model was copied exclusively. thus today we hear stories of ibo greatness in exact same places around the globe where the dominance of yoruba culture, military and artistic achievements laid its footprints.

this is why the story of savannah and haiti and many other places around the globe are being re-written to donate dominance to a tribe that never had one. in the haiti story itself a lot of questions are yet to be settled and we should look at them.

first , let's look at igboland and its own finding. igbos claim nri as their progenitor. nri arrived (they claim he migrated from israel and was one of the lost tribes) to a land already under the rulership of aro. aro then subdued nri into subordination in his kingdom. in traditional african history and politics this is an aberration.......beside this occurrence there is not a people of black africa whose migrating progenitor was subdued by the receiving ruler. the arriving people end up changing the rule and the dynamics of the land and usurping rights and privileges to their own advantage. .....their own code and creed become the new law and authority on the land. the migrating nri failed to establish authority and rule.

if this haiti story of ibo dominating the haitianland is true then how is it that haitian culture and custom is yoruba and not ibo? remember, the dominant rules the culture and the customs. so where did this ibo dominance of haitian greatness dissapear to? it must not have been there to begin with. now, let's look at the slave stock of haitian people and why they ended up there to begin with. why were these people in haiti and not in africa? it's a simple answer - imperial wars! among them were warriors captured and sold off. so now we ask, were there ibo warriors sold off into slavery and which imperial power were they defending and who was the opponent power? those who rose up in mutiny and defended haiti against european firepower were the bloodlines of those warriors carted off from the african soil. to complete its story of haiti greatness and ibo led mutiny there are gaps in the ibo african story and relevance that need first to be filled.

the haiti mutiny, the brazilian mutiny and all the other mutinies in which africans are glorified in their enslaved land started long before those slaves departed africa. it is shameful to find pride in such a dehumanizing commerce but the morality of it aside, those that attribute greatness to the legacy of slave revolt must first tell us of their own revolt as free men on african soil.

this post is a call for truthful perspective on the abusive use and pandering of "bravery" as a badge of honor on a tribe whose track record on conflict is very sparse and none of which ever brought a measurable victory.........more like 3 conflicts and 0 win! bravery should be a reserve fort hose who have had 10 or more conflicts and 2 or greater wins.
GBAM!!!
PoliticsRe: The Little Known Mass Suicide Of Igbo Slaves In Savannah Georgia by cfours: 6:43am On Feb 11, 2013
Crayola1: If he went earlier why did Haiti wait until '69 to pledge support tongue You do know the war was from '67-70 right? You keep posting things but by this time Haiti pledges its support its March of '69, two years had passed. The entrance of several players on the Nigerian side was changing the outcome of the war, are you suggesting that Papa Doc thought his words would help Biafra?
LOL if Duvalier felt he was a biafran descendant, he would have pledged support right from 67. before 67 sef.
see how you are contradicting your own self.
google searches of biafran ties to duvalier only link to igbo websites. clearly the igbos are claiming duvalier more than the other way round grin hehe
Azikiwe's job was not well done.
PoliticsRe: The Little Known Mass Suicide Of Igbo Slaves In Savannah Georgia by cfours: 6:39am On Feb 11, 2013
Crayola1: By that time Azikwe was on the Federal side tongue So try again. Or did he go to school with Ojukwu too grin
you are a very dishonest person. chai
unless you truly were ignorant of the truth.LOL
PoliticsRe: The Little Known Mass Suicide Of Igbo Slaves In Savannah Georgia by cfours: 6:37am On Feb 11, 2013

PoliticsRe: The Little Known Mass Suicide Of Igbo Slaves In Savannah Georgia by cfours: 6:31am On Feb 11, 2013
Crayola1: Really you support a state you have no idea will survive to see tomorrow? Try again sir.
Especially in 69 when things were slowly going against Biafra, you now throw your hat in. Papa Doc was crazy but I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one instance.
LOL. apparently the only reason Haiti recognized biafra is because the tyrant papa doc went to school with an ibo man (Azikiwe) who became a biafran dipolomat.touring the world begging for support. rotfl
PoliticsRe: The Little Known Mass Suicide Of Igbo Slaves In Savannah Georgia by cfours: 6:19am On Feb 11, 2013
Crayola1: Most who? According to you?
The Africans who came from Africa into Haiti were mainly from the Bight of Benin. The Republic of Benin was known as part of the Dahomey kingdom. Dahomey was a powerful kingdom in the west part of Africa until it was taken over from 1894-1960 by the French. However, before the French took over completely the French were already buying slaves, trading for slaves and shipping them into the Caribbean to be used as slaves.
https://www.haiti360.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=30:african-origins-of-haitians&catid=4:our-blogs&Itemid=6

It is said that the ancestry of most Haitians can be traced back to Dahomey. The animist practice of voodoo, a corruption in name and practice of the Dahomean religion known as "Vodun," came by boat via slaves to the New World and is still widely practiced in its homeland.
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Republic_of_Benin

There’s a large group of them next door in the Republic of Benin (formerly Dahomey), where many Haitians can trace their African ancestry.
http://selaviayiti./2011/04/
PoliticsRe: The Little Known Mass Suicide Of Igbo Slaves In Savannah Georgia by cfours: 6:11am On Feb 11, 2013
c.fours:
Haiti was a pariah state under Papa and baby doc during late 60s. It was facing international isolation and under severe blockades.
it needed friends and of course their options were limited to other rogue/pariah states. that is the only explanation for why duvalier supported ojukwu.
of course I feel pity for the haitian people. but certainly not their crazy leader

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pariah_state#Former
here
PoliticsRe: The Little Known Mass Suicide Of Igbo Slaves In Savannah Georgia by cfours: 6:07am On Feb 11, 2013
Haiti was a pariah state under Papa and baby doc during late 60s. It was facing international isolation and under severe blockades.
it needed friends and of course their options were limited to other rogue/pariah states. that is the only explanation for why duvalier supported ojukwu.
of course I feel pity for the haitian people. but certainly not their crazy leader

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pariah_state#Former
PoliticsRe: The Little Known Mass Suicide Of Igbo Slaves In Savannah Georgia by cfours: 5:59am On Feb 11, 2013
Crayola1: So you are going to tell a Haitian their own heritage lol ok dear grin
Papa Doc was the nickname of François Duvalier, Haitian President during the Nigerian Civil war.

Haitian religion has several influences.
LOL.
most Haitians trace their ancestry to Benin. google is your friend.
besides if you have real life Haitian friends, you will hear them tell stories about papa doc/baby doc reign of terror in haiti.
and bonus points to you if you have ever had an exposure to their traditional religions.
PoliticsRe: The Little Known Mass Suicide Of Igbo Slaves In Savannah Georgia by cfours: 5:44am On Feb 11, 2013
Crayola1: So you think they faked the letter? Ok sir. I'm not saying Papa Doc was a model citizen but he said what he said and supported Biafra. I'm sure he would know about his countries history better than some site grin

Page not found by the way grin
LOL. I didn't even click on the link. Papa Doc is the guy who supported Biafra? buhahahehhehshahaha grin grin grin I don't expect any less.
you don't need any dictator "papa doc" or "baby doc" to tell you the history of haiti. Just look at their religion (dahomey) and language. Those are preserved history passed on from generation to generation for over 200 yrs!! infact the same papa doc was the one who tried to destroy the religion by trying to transform it into a personality cult and made himself religious ruler. contrary to the way the haitians had practiced it for generations.

PUHLEASE grin
PoliticsRe: The Little Known Mass Suicide Of Igbo Slaves In Savannah Georgia by cfours: 5:23am On Feb 11, 2013
hahaha I didn't even have to click on the link. just looking at it alone with "kwenu" and "biafra" written all over it is enough proof for incredibility.
you got jokes.

http://www.rnw.nl/africa/article/benin-voodoo-rituals-calm-spirits-haiti.
Most slaves from Dahomey (now Benin Republic), and the neighboring countries (Togo, and southern Nigeria), were sent to Haiti, Brazil and Cuba. They came from four (4) main tribes: Mahi, Yoruba, Goun, and Fon. This Black Trade persisted despite the abolition of slavery in Europe (France, 1848) and in the Americas (Saint Domingue, 1794). The last slave cargo left Ouidah, Benin, for Louisiana, in 1860!
PoliticsRe: The Little Known Mass Suicide Of Igbo Slaves In Savannah Georgia by cfours: 3:38am On Feb 11, 2013
Crayola1: According to history and one of the former leaders of Haiti, they attribute the Haiti revolution to people of Igbo ancestry tongue So does that count.
link your sources.
L'Ouverture has his origins in Benin (country not state). wink
PoliticsRe: The Little Known Mass Suicide Of Igbo Slaves In Savannah Georgia by cfours: 2:40am On Feb 11, 2013
redsun: You are a dead man walking.You and your tyoe dies several times in your miserable life time.
the joke is on you.
and if and when you do decide that you are hopeless, go and jump off the bridge. grin
good riddance.

i'm pretty sure at least 99.9% of African slave descendants today could care less about some lazy suicidal field workers. Toussant L'ouverture wasn't suicidal. what he had was "millitary genius and political acumen." These are the folks that get celebrated. bravery is more about using your brain.
go and learn from your masters.
PoliticsRe: Ohanaeze To APC - Field Igbo Presidential Candidate, by cfours: 1:26am On Feb 11, 2013
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PoliticsRe: Ohanaeze To APC - Field Igbo Presidential Candidate, by cfours: 1:17am On Feb 11, 2013
Onlytruth: Anyway I think that Ohanaeze has laid down the minimum condition for Igbo joining the alliance of evil. It is a take it or leave it condition.
I do not believe that Igbo lack options in 2015. We have many viable options.
hahah Shehu Shagari did not call Azikiwe an " old wrinkled 80yr old bride" for nothing.
lots of options you have there. dream on. grin

aribisala0: When a man has not asked your daughter's hand in marriage and you are already stating bride price does it not show weakness or desperation. Is it APC that should approach Ohanaeze or the other way round huhThe way I see it APC do NOT need Ohanaeze which represent at most 5 states that APC would not win anyway.
GBAM.
the bride analogy fits perfectly.
PoliticsRe: Ohanaeze To APC - Field Igbo Presidential Candidate, by cfours: 1:14am On Feb 11, 2013
Idi Amin: TNX 4 D COMPLIMENT BUT WE DNT ACCEPT IT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT YOU ARE SUPERIOR TO US
you don't want compliments. So is it abuses that you want?
ah I tire o
PoliticsRe: Ohanaeze To APC - Field Igbo Presidential Candidate, by cfours: 12:54am On Feb 11, 2013
kofoshi: jolosi!

Can your people sell spare parts like the Igbo people do?


Football you people can't play and you're here making noise.

Shish!
my ribs.hahaha
I concede. Igbos take the crown in those departments grin
spare part, football abeg. I throway salute
PoliticsRe: Ohanaeze To APC - Field Igbo Presidential Candidate, by cfours: 12:52am On Feb 11, 2013
Onlytruth: In the immediate: GEJ/Sambo.

After GEJ: Soludo/Ribadu. cool
we shall see. may the best team win PDP vs APC
in the immediate: QUIT WHINING tongue
PoliticsRe: Ohanaeze To APC - Field Igbo Presidential Candidate, by cfours: 12:49am On Feb 11, 2013
@COOLDUN,

If you didn't catch the sarcasm in her post about AFCON, then srry to say your IQ is low. The koko is that Nigeria won with a NIgerian team. The joke is on you. If you peform, the whole country will respect you irregardless of tribe. I am proud of the Eagles as a Nigerian. whether the team is comprised of hausa, yoruba deltans or igbos. grin They made us proud.

yea o course people will talk about you because you always give us things to talk about. Ohanaeze has came up with 3 statements in just this year alone. MASSOB as well- declared biafra and proposed tax collection hahaha grin. Abeg let us entertain ourselves jare. if you don' want to be talked about, then you need to shut up and stop making empty clownish noises up and down.
PoliticsRe: Ohanaeze To APC - Field Igbo Presidential Candidate, by cfours: 12:40am On Feb 11, 2013
Onlytruth: Okay o.
Just don't be shocked when you lose. . . again. cheesy
Issokay, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
Besides,the goal isn't necessarily to have a yoruba president. duh
ie what could be better than a buhari/fashola ticket under ACN... sorry I mean APC?
PoliticsRe: The Little Known Mass Suicide Of Igbo Slaves In Savannah Georgia by cfours: 12:38am On Feb 11, 2013
hahahaha clown. better go and hug transformer ASAP at least you will die "honorably"
ODE

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