₦airaland Forum

Apolitical I am per se still. I give up on man's governmentz.

Allow the country determine who is an immigrant or not. There is hidden joy in minding one's business.

They used the boy.

I'm not expert at advising people on audio lifestyles.

I'm me.

ThreeBlackBird:
The little some people fought for is the freedom you enjoy today. kindly STFU if you can't be useful towards a better life for mankind.

You are wrong. I'm enjoying the gift of life from God. You are welcome.

A real man doesn't need codes. He needs maturity.

Unbelievable! This world is becoming unbecoming each seconds.

My friend says he prefers forgiving him seeing him behind bars weeping. So funny.

Both Nigeria and Biafra cannot solve mankind's problems.

Your harddrive needs to be flashed externally. Visit a repairer to flash it.

All I know is man's government cannot answer man's problems.

I wished people stopped waisting their time fighting for what is not worthwhile.

Man cannot solve man's problems.

Cool.

As if the show was any good.

It's okay o.

Cool. Well done.

Smiles

Dear foreigners, welcome to Nigeria.

I'll reserve my comments. I'll be tolerant.

Good move.

This life is so like a mist, appears for a day and disappears the next day.

One thing is certain; everything is political.

Like seriously, what's the difference between the priest and the woman? They both do the same work -- they both steal in the supposed house of God.

Investing in man's government is a waste.

Yawns

Yawns. It'll be looted as usual.

Okay.

franklytrue:
You have not answered the questions above. You are digressing.

"And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces." - 2 Kings 2:11-12

So what did the bible say or mean there? Elijah was taken into Heaven. Enoch too was taken away (Gen 5:24). You want to explain the bible away as JW's usually do? How can you witness for a God you don't even know (only head knowledge of) or have had any experience of?

Job 42:5-6 "I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.
Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes."

The letter killeth but the spirit giveth life

"Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life." - 2 Corinthians 3:6

The words the Lord Jesus speak, they are spirit and they are life (John 6:63). And Jesus said that He is coming quickly. He is coming very soon. (Rev. ch 3:11, ch 22:12-13, ch 22:20). Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.
If you keep taking away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away your part out of the book of life (Rev. 22:18-19). Beware! God is not a man that He should lie.

You should have just asked me how I came to a conclusion rather than being biased and cursing me. Well, stick to what you think is right. You are welcome.

franklytrue:
So what is your point? State it clearly. Is Jesus coming back for His pure "bride" or not? Is there not going to be a marriage supper of the Lamb (Lamb of God - Jesus) or not?

You see from the scriptures how Enoch was translated and was taken by God for he walked very closely with God; he did not die. Also Elijah was carried into Heaven by a chariot of fire right there in the presence of Elisah. That is how the saints, the "bride" of Christ will be taken also (translated or caught up, so to speak) supernaturally

You are just quoting from your JW book. Why do you not go further at Revelation 14:13 down to vs 20?

In Revelation ch 14, vs 14 - 16 tells about the rapture while vs 17 - 20 shows the believers who were not ready and others left behind in the tribulation and during the outpour of the wrath of God which was after the Lord had reaped (carried away/'caught up') His first fruits (saints/bride) at the sound of the voice of the angel which was a similitude of the trumpet. God's own are likened to olive tree, vines or its branches, etc (See Revelation 11: 1 - 4, John 12: 24, Luke 13: 6 - 9, John 15: 1 - 9)

It may surprise you to know Elijah didn't go to heaven.

When the apostle Paul said that Christians would be “caught up” to be with the Lord, what subject was being discussed?
1 Thess. 4:13-18, RS: “We would not have you ignorant, brethren, concerning those who are asleep [“those who sleep in death,” NE; “those who have died,” TEV, JB], that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. For this we declare to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, shall not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the archangel’s call, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first; then we who are alive, who are left, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.” (Evidently some members of the Christian congregation in Thessalonica had died. Paul encouraged the survivors to comfort one another with the resurrection hope. He reminded them that Jesus was resurrected after his death; so, too, at the coming of the Lord, those faithful Christians among them who had died would be raised to be with Christ.)
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Who are the ones that will be ‘caught up in the clouds,’ as stated at 1 Thessalonians 4:17?
Verse 15 explains that they are faithful ones “who are left until the coming of the Lord,” that is, they are still living at the time of Christ’s coming. Will they ever die? According to Romans 6:3-5 and 1 Corinthians 15:35, 36, 44 (quoted on pages 314, 315), they must die before they can gain heavenly life. But there is no need for them to remain in the death state awaiting Christ’s return. They will instantly be “caught up,” “in the twinkling of an eye,” to be with the Lord.— 1 Cor. 15:51, 52, RS; also Revelation 14:13.

franklytrue:
You will continue to be deceived if you are looking for just that particular word 'Rapture' in the bible. That word is coined by man to explain the taking away (caught up) of the saints (1 Thessalonians 4:17). There are several scriptures that point to the taking away of the saints of Jesus Christ and then His second coming to the earth.

First He will come to take His saints before the great tribulation is over and the Anti Christ fully revealed and before the wrath of God is fully poured out and completed and then He will come again and reign for a thousand years on earth before the new heaven and new earth is made. See these scriptures:
Matthew chs 24 and 25,
Matthew 24: 29 - 42,
Mark 13: 26, 27, 31 - 37,
1 Corinthians 1:7-8
1 Thessalonians 3:13,
1 Thessalonians 4: 14 - 17,
1 Thessalonians 5: 1-2, 23,
2 Thessalonians 2: 1 - 5,
James 5:8,
1 John 2:28,
1 John 3:2
Revelation 3: 11,
Revelation 14: 14 - 20,
Revelation 16:15,
Revelation 22: 7, 12, 13
Revelation chs 20 and 21

Heaven and earth shall pass away but the Word of God shall not pass away. Don't look on only a few verses somewhere and conclude on the Word of God. Study the whole Word and compare spiritual things with spiritual.

"Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." - 1 Corinthians 2:13-14

The Lord Jesus Christ is coming very soon, even in this our generation. The mark of the beast (RFID microchip) will soon be enforced and no buying or selling without it. That shows us how close the coming of the Lord Jesus is.