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Islam › Re: Conversation With An Atheist by Cheers01: 3:08am On Jul 18, 2012

I just keep laughing every time I read this thread. Tbaba is like a wise snake and Majaze is like a young rat. The snake sets traps, while the young rat in his youthful exuberance and overconfidence, tries to run around the traps set by the snake. The rat keeps falling into different traps while the snake watches in amusement.

If Majaze had listened to me in the first place, he would not have been debunked by Tbaba. The very fact that we do not understand Arabic is a handicap which limits our ability to argue on this issue. It also gives Tbaba the freedom to say what he likes about the Quran in Arabic without us catching him.

Tamil language cut and paste? Kai. Tbaba really set trap for my guy!

Islam › Re: Who Is Marmaduke Pickthall? by Cheers01: 11:55pm On Jul 17, 2012

tintingz: do you think the english translation will just be publishd out just like that? without consulting the Islamic commity or board going thru letters by letters, words for words before its published out. Your atheism thinking is decieving you

Really? Have you read Pickthall's Surah 4;34?

Pickthall: Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great

Let's see if I get banned for telling the truth on Pickthall

Islam › Re: Is Islam A Religion Of Peace Or Violence? by Cheers01: 11:51pm On Jul 17, 2012

LagosShia: i have seen many of his replies to my posts and threads,when they are not even directed at him.he is trying hard to seek attention.for now and so far i have decided to ignore him.he deliberately spreads nonsense to seek attention and feel.he is best dealt with by ignoring him.he'd get tired on his own.an atheist that is more interested in Islam than his atheism and he still doesn't want to give up and take the shahada.

https://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/239/d/f/forever_alone_by_foreveraloneplz.png

Islam › Re: Is Islam A Religion Of Peace Or Violence? by Cheers01: 11:50pm On Jul 17, 2012

tintingz: you're fooling yourselv mr. is like the english lagoshia wrote is writn in chinese english abi?, early monkey atheist sorry artist

Did I lie when I said that there are more violent verses in the Quran than the peaceful ones LagosShia put up? See how you embarrass yourself when you are faced with the truth?

I am waiting for you to deny before I put up the verses.

Islam › Re: My Missing Keys- Last Ramadan Story by Cheers01: 3:24pm On Jul 17, 2012

Salaam.

The problem here is that there are people who misplaced their passports during hectic travel times for festivals or holy holidays. Negates your story.

(No derailing intended, just a differing thought)

Islam › Re: Is Islam A Religion Of Peace Or Violence? by Cheers01: 3:22pm On Jul 17, 2012

LagosShia: HOLY QURAN 5:32:
whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely.

HOLY QURAN 2:190:
Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.

HOLY QURAN 7:55:
(O mankind!) Call upon your Lord humbly and in secret. Lo! He loveth not aggressors.

HOLY QURAN 8:61:
"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in Allah: for He is the One that Heareth and Knoweth (all things)."

HOLY QURAN 5:2:
" , and let not the hatred of some people in (once) shutting you out of the Sacred Mosque lead you to transgression (and hostility on your part). Help ye one another in righteousness and piety, but help ye not one another in sin and rancour: fear Allah: for Allah is strict in punishment."

HOLY QURAN 41:34:
"Nor can Goodness and Evil be equal. Repel (Evil) with what is better: then will he between whom and thee was hatred become as it were thy friend and intimate!"

HOLY QURAN 4:135:
"O ye who believe! stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest ye swerve, and if ye distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do."

HOLY QURAN 16:90
"God advocates justice, charity, and regarding the relatives. And He forbids evil, vice, and transgression. He enlightens you, that you may take heed."

HOLY QURAN 16:126:
"And if ye do punish them, punish them no worse than they punished you: but if ye show patience, that is indeed the best (course) for those who are patient."

HOLY QURAN 21:107:
"And we have not sent you but as a mercy for the world"

Wow, arent there more violent verses than the peaceful verses you put up? You're not fooling anyone

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Islam › Re: An Atheist's Attempt to Classify Muslim Women! by Cheers01(op): 2:54pm On Jul 17, 2012

fellis: So what happens to the Muslim gf now? Heartbreak?

First muslim girlfriend = heartbreak over a year ago thanks to the muslim bigots.

2nd muslim girlfriend= was always going to fail from experience. was just for fun

Islam › Re: Conversation With An Atheist by Cheers01: 1:47pm On Jul 17, 2012

Tbaba, I need you input here as most muslims i know are not really scared of the dark;

https://www.nairaland.com/992457/atheist-afraid-dark

Islam › Re: An Atheist's Attempt to Classify Muslim Women! by Cheers01(op): 1:43pm On Jul 17, 2012

My latest thread;

https://www.nairaland.com/992457/atheist-afraid-dark

Islam › Re: An Atheist's Attempt to Classify Muslim Women! by Cheers01(op): 1:41pm On Jul 17, 2012

fellis: Hahahaha. Whatever you say.

I see your point. The sad thing is that those 'westernized Muslims as you put it, are the ones that actually like playing and goofing around like me.
I don't know if it's cos I am still sort of young. Maybe when I get older I'll be interested in more serious things like the non-westernized Muslims and probably marry one in the end.
I don't know, maybe.

We shall see. As for me, I am guessing that I would get married to an atheist or bhuddist. Many of my friends are Asian.

Islam › Re: An Atheist's Attempt to Classify Muslim Women! by Cheers01(op): 1:10pm On Jul 17, 2012

fellis:
lol, even satan.
You don't appear to be dangerous/harmful to me but I can't say the same for others. Besides you might have unwittingly caused harm to people, emotional or in any other form.

Emotional harm? Do you have any idea how it feels to be continually told that you're immoral, spawn of the devil and a fool? If someoen can dish it, the person can also take it.

However, in summary, you would either fall in love with a westernized muslim or a non-muslim. I say this without a doubt.

Love is not something you control. Lets try a hypothetical situation (disclaimer, I am in no way toasting you);

-You meet someone like me; a rich and handsome guy that is not muslim
-You find out that you have many things in common. You play videogames together, like the same food, like to travel to many countries.
-You find out that most of your muslim male friends do not understand you like he does.
-You miss him even though you dont want to be close to him since he is not a muslim
-He makes you laugh
-He respects your religion but he can give good debates with you on religion. He makes you even think about some things in your religion which you havent thought about

This is what happened between me and my muslim girlfriend. This happens to many religious girls around the world.

Islam › Re: An Atheist's Attempt to Classify Muslim Women! by Cheers01(op): 12:43pm On Jul 17, 2012

fellis: Not completely harmless. Words can also have negative effects on the reader.

I have been writing articles critical about religion. How harmful have I been to you? Remember that I have been described many times as a "militant atheist", "nuisance", "evangelical atheist", "hatetheist" etc on Nairaland

Islam › Re: Conversation With An Atheist by Cheers01: 12:33pm On Jul 17, 2012

mazaje: Have I been banned here or what?

What is with the hidden comment?

Islam › Re: An Atheist's Attempt to Classify Muslim Women! by Cheers01(op): 12:32pm On Jul 17, 2012

fellis: There was militant everything there, both theists and atheists. This is what I understand militant to mean by the way;

So I don't really support it whether from Muslims or non Muslims, I don't support any form of extremism.

Nope, the meaning of the picture is that religious militants of today will kill while atheists and agnostics are quite harmless on the computer.

Islam › Re: Conversation With An Atheist by Cheers01: 11:53am On Jul 17, 2012

tbaba1234: The Quran is the standard for the Arabic language; Even a honest arab christian will tell you that.... The Quran took ownership of the language.... Trust me, you will never in your life read anything that would affect you psychologically as the Quran if you understand it, NEVER!!... sometimes even when i read casually, i am mesmerized, stunned, amazed or in tears. This is coming from someone who has read various kinds of books from many fields of knowledge.

Alhamdulilah (All thanks and praise to Allah), Allah has helped some doubtful muslims clear their doubts from my posts... I have also been fortunate to speak to a few non-muslims who have developed a better understanding of Islam- Some who might even be close to becoming muslims if Allah wills... Different things appeal to different people,...Anyone with arrogance, pride or just a stubbornness to reject will reject, no matter how clear the proof is...

I try to use common sense in all of my discussions with disbelievers....

It all goes back to the point of xenophobia. As someone that is learning my local language after realising the damaging effect on my local tradition and culture from accepting European language of English and religion of christianity, you have to be kidding me with Arabic. Your argument is not logical. You are saying that for me to be closer to God, I have to learn Arabic? That my local language and English are quite limited in fully understanding Allah in the the Quran? You praise Arabic language when your country is neither of Arabic heritage or an Arabic speaking country.

Islam › Re: Conversation With An Atheist by Cheers01: 6:43am On Jul 17, 2012

tbaba1234: I just read parts of Mazaje's story to atheism....

I feel sad that he could have been a muslim;

I hope you find your way back and you find what you need to convince you of the truth.....

I watched a film in which a british man was teaching some native indians about Jesus Christ. When, the British man said that Jesus christ died for people's sins, the Indian chief said that Jesus was a fool because Jesus death showed that he was powerless on earth and reinforced the might of the Roman government.

The moral of the story is that when trying to convince people about your religion, try to use simple logic and believable stories. You have not one day ever made a good case for Islam to a non believer. Yes, you know how to inspire the muslims here on Nairaland but you offer nothing to the unbeliever or the doubtful muslim.

Do you really expectme to believe that the Quran miraculously improved Arabic language?

Islam › Re: Conversation With An Atheist by Cheers01: 6:07am On Jul 17, 2012

tbaba1234: ^hehe ... Give me one in your local language sef....

The best palindrome in arabic before Islam means

'The whale mouth is open"...... and it took them months of trial and error to come up with one......

Arabic palindromes are as senseless as english palindromes..... I am not hiding behind anything ..... Arabic palindromes also make little sense...

Tbaba, you're very lucky that I can not speak Arabic. Keep hiding behind Arabic

However, what does this say about your religion? Not to be rude but isnt there some sort of xenophobia involved here? Are you telling me that Arabic is a holy language compared to others?

A real miracle would be that the English translation is also a palindrome. Furthermore, "palindrome" as a word was coined by an English man in the 17th century.

Islam › Re: An Atheist's Attempt to Classify Muslim Women! by Cheers01(op): 5:57am On Jul 17, 2012

@ Fellis,

Remember this picture you put up?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/754141_Militants_jpg1b27d824229527725a40f3f58a6d151a

Can you explain how this is not a swipe at religion?

Islam › Re: Conversation With An Atheist by Cheers01: 5:43am On Jul 17, 2012

mazaje: Here are some palindrome i got from wikipedia. . .

1.Was it a car or a cat I saw?

2. "A Toyota's a Toyota.

3. Step on no pets.

4. "Eva, can I stab bats in a cave?"

If compared to the ayah that says "declare the greatness only of your Rabb" you will see that they are at par. ..

Ah, you fell for the invincible strawman attack!

Did you not notice that the English translation of his verse is not a palindrome? Tbaba is hiding behind Arabic.

Islam › Re: Conversation With An Atheist by Cheers01: 12:40am On Jul 17, 2012

tbaba1234: ^ Palindromes in any language hardly make sense ... It is not peculiar to english... Even in Arabic...

The discussion is about palidromes... It is simply enough challenge... Give me a palindrome in any language with as much content as the one above...

Why all the grammar? Logicboy is a clown...

Why are you hiding behind Arabic? Are you saying that palindromes in Arabic do not make sense?

Or are you saying that the Quran puts sense into Arabic?

Islam › Re: Conversation With An Atheist by Cheers01: 10:25pm On Jul 16, 2012

tbaba1234: I will not go too far, i will give you just one included in the write-up.... Then you will tell me something that a human has made that is even close...

Palindromes are sentences and words that spell front and back the same way like wow, race car... The Quran has palindromes... One ayah (usually translated as verse) is a palindrome as a sentence on its own...

Surah Muddathir ayah 3 is a palindrome

the sentence is:

رَبَّكَ فَكَبِّرْ

look at it more closely:

رب ب ك ف ك ب ب ر

It means

'declare the greatness only of your Rabb(Lord)'

Your challenge is simple, provide a sentence palindrome from all of what humans have created in any language, that makes as much sense as this one ayah..... Thank God we have Google..

Some famous palindromes include:

T. Eliot, Top Bard, Notes Putrid Tang Emanating, Is Sad. I’d Assign It A Name: Gnat Dirt Upset On Drab Pot-Toilet

No, Mel Gibson Is A Casino’s Big Lemon

Swap God For A Janitor; Rot In A Jar Of Dog Paws

Read more: http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-palindromes.php#ixzz20opi7uG3

As you can see they make little sense.... This is just one ayah....

Tbaba, you and Hamza Tzortis keep making this claim about the unique literature of the Quran but it can only be understood in classical Arabic!

Tbaba, how many western atheists understand Arabic?

However, from a skeptical point of view, languages are different. Palindromes in English are just anomalies and would hardly make sense. "Madam sees pop"
Arabic might have more sensible palindromes because of its sentence structure or syntax.

A good example in the difference in languages is "double negatives" that hardly make sense in English but makes sense in Portuguese.

eg " I havent never done nothing to nobody". ---senseless

I havent done anything to anybody------ makes sense

Another Quranic miracle debunked by Logicboy. grin

Islam › Re: A Female Model Embraces Islam And Leaves Christianity by Cheers01: 10:10pm On Jul 16, 2012

You couldnt find a respectable person to put as a convert?

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Islam › Re: An Atheist's Attempt to Classify Muslim Women! by Cheers01(op): 10:08pm On Jul 16, 2012

fellis: I don't know about this, because the person that introduced me to Naruto was actually a serious Muslim.
That followed the show very ardently, had dvds upon dvds of the seasons.
Dude, Naruto is just interesting. I think anyone can like it, theist or atheist.

Calm down, I said "open". A muslim or christian can be open. Open means that you are ready to learn new things- it doesnt mean that you have no religion.

fellis: Really? I don't remember saying anything skeptical about religion . . . . are you trying to play mind games or something?

Play mind games? Even the very fact that you are commenting on this thread shows that you're comfortable with what most muslims will see as haraam. We are here discussing pre-marital relationships between muslims and non-muslims.

Furthermore, I dont have time now to show you your past comments that are quite skeptical. I will do when I have time.

fellis: Good. Please don't convert any of your Muslim girlfriends, leave them as they are. Thank you.

Okay. What about putting doubt? A muslim with doubt about the religion?

Islam › Re: An Atheist's Attempt to Classify Muslim Women! by Cheers01(op): 8:48pm On Jul 16, 2012

fellis: No, you probably peeked in order to compile your list.

Why do you say this? Because of Naruto?

Well, from talking with you, you dont sound like the "Aisha" type. You know, girls that actually act like they are married to the prophet.

Also, anyone that is into naruto or videogames has to be an open person. Technology knows no race or colour or religion.

You are also a skeptic. You said certain things about religion that shows that you can think for yourself.

I guess, i will be a bad influence on you because clearly, I'm a funny guy that can really argue against religion. I almost converted my first muslim girlfriend. I loved her too much to make her an atheist in the midst of her muslim family. grin

Islam › Re: An Atheist's Attempt to Classify Muslim Women! by Cheers01(op): 7:58pm On Jul 16, 2012

fellis: All this is nothing

The first thread on my profile is tech related, that's probably why you wrote this.

Well obviously, I have said it over and over on this section that I am in the university

Go and sit down you didn't guess anything.

Lmao, do you think that I check your profile or something?

But were you seriously thinking that I was going to reveal something personal? I am not some guru or prophet! grin

Anyways, I can say something for sure, you seem the type of girl that can date a non-muslim.

Islam › Re: An Atheist's Attempt to Classify Muslim Women! by Cheers01(op): 5:53pm On Jul 16, 2012

fellis: Cool.

I'm intrigued. What can you guess?

A girl that watches Naruto;

-is very likely to be open to new things. (Ehem japanese?)
-is very likely to be a geek or at least, technology savvy
-is young.

I am too good at this grin

Islam › Re: An Atheist's Attempt to Classify Muslim Women! by Cheers01(op): 4:51pm On Jul 16, 2012

fellis: Very funny. Using naruto as criteria for determining who is your type and who isn't.

They seem to be nice guys, taking their online personalities into consideration.I just assume they are mature men, married with kids.
Besides I am not on NL to find 'my type', so that is irrelevant.

What university were you talking about if you don't mind my asking?

What are old men doing on nairaland? Seriously? Anyways, I was just joking about Tbaba and MAC. Of course, Nairaland is not a dating site. If you notice, I dont toast females here unlike some pervs here. "sweetie" "darling", "luv" angry

. I am an equal opportunity basher- I debunk both men and women.

Anyways, I am sorry but I cant give you the name of my university. While I like to talk about my life in general, I dont give specific details on Nairaland.

As for Naruto. Once a girl watches naruto, she falls into a certain category. Sorry. I can guess some certain things about you.

Islam › Re: An Atheist's Attempt to Classify Muslim Women! by Cheers01(op): 4:25pm On Jul 16, 2012

fellis: Lol. Na you sabi.

Ok. Why the ~~obsession~~fascination with them? Prior to this you used to almost always talk about your Muslim girlfriends . . .

Calm down. I am not obsessed with muslim girls. Rather, it is people (muslims) that are obsessed with my muslim girlfriends when I date them.

Look, I wouldnt be talking about muslim girls if people did not forbid me from dating them. This is what I use to bash islam. Have you ever heard me talking about my christian girlfriend? No. This is because it is normal (christian v atheist) unlike when my life is in danger because non-muslim men are not allowed to date muslim girls.

BTW, I am guessing that Tbaba and Big Mac aint your type. They wouldnt watch Naruto just because he eats ramen with pork or Shizune has a pig. grin

Islam › Re: An Atheist's Attempt to Classify Muslim Women! by Cheers01(op): 4:03pm On Jul 16, 2012

@ Fellis,

Dont lie, you probably have a non-muslim boyfriend at school. grin

On a serious note, I just wrote this as a joke. I mixed some of my personal observations in there as well. So, please dont be insulted as a muslim girl, I am not an authority on muslim women. grin

Celebrities › Re: Ikenna Beney Amaechi Mistaken For Whitney Houston On CNN by Cheers01: 3:59pm On Jul 16, 2012

Good for him/her.

There is nothing much to say. Ikenna is enjoying his/her life as a celebrity. I cant say the same for many on Nairaland

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