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obj had told us to tolorate and manage adedibu because he is too old to be reformed.
my disappointments are from the great critics of our country all from yoruba and they are just there watching. i am calling on gani to talk no more on national issues until he moblize the yoruba people towards a lasting solution on the side of adedibu.
what do we expect from a man in whose house six inec machines were found and nothing happened?
we need just to organise a national wake-keep for both obj and adedibu for what they represent in nigeria

mamajama,
i will bet my life in argueing that u live in the usa.
you post all sorts of shits here.
i saw u post the pic of ibb's house asking where he got the money to build the house.
is obj living in a mosque or church?
is ibb's house more expensive than obj's transcrop, library, uttah farm and his hotel or is it not possible that the same bank that gave obj loan might have given loan to ibb to build his house.
if you are talking about employment, are u saying ibb is not employing anyone in his house even gardners and cooks or are u saying all those people efcc are arresting did not employ anybody?
you have justifications for obj's loots while u believe ibb shld be killed.
impossible, ibb and obj are birds of a feather and efcc knows why they cannot go to him.
how many times did obj sent ibb on international assignments as an elder statesman.
the simple truth is that in the past eight years from obj to the last ward councessellors, they all looted and if there is any sure war against corruption in nigeria, people will still not be fighting and killing to become leaders especially in the pdp but for the simple fact that they still see leadership in nigeria as the easiest way to wealth, the story continues

this is another divertion of attention from the ruling class. a total deciet

debosky,
i hope u are still there. such nairlanders as tonia and tkb are all women and u can read their posts on this thread.
what u call allegation is exactly what made anambra what it is till date.
i am surprised to see u are from onitsha, u can tell us ur experience in the past 8 years.
maybe all what we read about chris uba are still allegation because no law court have convicted him?
open ur eyes to the truth of life. let any newspaper write now that obj is the best thing that happens to nigeria and u will see the editor been honoured by fg but when the report the third term agenda, wow! sss and everyother security agent will beat the hell out of them.
madam speak is nothing but a criminal but the education standard of nigeria will give names to the action and the story will just die.
ribadu is not just silent but he is waiting to address the nation on the matter embelishing the situation and circumstances sourounding the woman but all in all. we know the truth.
if anyone covers a criminal, it means he is a criminal too - i beg for your permission to call ribadu a criminal here.

yar adua shld emulate his predecessor (obj) and end the matter.
oh, our dear obj, how wonderful was thy days, we really miss u as u would have ended this matter without raising ant=y security dust.
obj, u ended andy uba's matter without problems, u ended adenuga's issue without stress, u ended adedibu's inec machine issues without questions, u called off chris uba's issues without minding.
wow! i am begining to regret why we did not give u the third term which u asked of us.
but the big question here remains, were all these thing happening in the midst of the war against corruption?

mamajama,
if u actually posted this pic to ascertain the source of funds, it means u lack all those things that make a human being.
obj rushed a 250 hotel room to the standard of a five star hotel. trasncrop, obj library, utah and renewed utah farms, all these and everyother thing obj has got in his life are from nigeria's wealth.
i am really surprised that you that believed that obj fought corruption in his eight years on seat, was able to recover loots from abacha but found nothing wrong with ibb.
in some other of your posts, you and afam mentioned the importance of evidence, why are u then turning back to condem ibb or have you now gotten enough evidence to nail him? if your answer is yes, then u have to proceed to your efcc since they are waiting for evidence otherwise i will suggest that you shut your fucking mouth.
i have said it and i am saying it and i will continue to say it, any war on corruption that overlooked the relevance of ibb in the corrupt nation of nigeria is something else.
we have highly rated criminals in the history of nigeria and at federal levels and a normal person will overlook them for alams, kalu and tauraki which is simple deciet.
what happens to everyother past president if such amount can be recovered from abacha alone, what happens to our federal parastatals that are going down on daily bases? what happened to our roads within the eight years? security at its worst. we had a tony annenih who preffered to use national funds for pdp problems yet nobody called him corrupt.
we had a an andy uba caught in the usa for moneyu laundary yet ribadu called that a civil matter. mamajama, u are a disgrace to ur parental linage and nigeria as a whole.
what could be more corrupt than the third term approach? how much money was lost in the game? whose funds are that? what could be more corrupt than the april polls? who is saying money does not excahnge hands in the melo-drama? ribadu has done is best and shld quit now that the ovation is high before they humilate him out of office.
a critical analyses of yar adua's admin will show u that ribadu has less powers now than what he used to enjoy then.
he was used and since there is a legal institution in nigeria called court, someone outthere shld go ahead and challange ribadu is his selective justice.
he shld make the game free for all. he shld use the same law on every leader. imagine adedibu asking yar adua to emulate obj and save the speaker. what a shame

the sun newspaper of 18 sept has this to: Lawyers fault Gani Fawehinmi on AGF.

so he has said his mind and others including fellow learned men have their minds to say.

he is expecting yar adua to emulate obj while obj wants oyo people to emulate adedibu.
that is the end of the story and this goes a long way to show how pdp and efcc and obj are fighting corruption.
na the same people. only such speach is worthy of 100 years in jail.

gani is an educated elite in nigeria but it is very unfortunate that his words or actions have never been considered useful in the past so what i really do not know is how relevant yar adua will consider this call.
again, the arttoney general seems to be working in line with yar adua on the rule of law moves of which i personally support the idea because there is no way the decisions of ribadu can overtake the constitution of nigeria.
during obj's regime, it is the sole responsibility of ribadu to say who is corrupt or not not minding the constitutional implication which is absolutely wrong with many calling his actions as selected justice.

yem,
u are just late to school on this issue of security.
these people that are been killed are the ones who import these guns just to get to their inordinate ambitions of been rulers by force as baba may have it that it is a do or die affairs.
is it not surprising how tauts who barely feed three times a day can have access to machine guns and other sofisticated weapons that the police do not have.
all the obj products are corrupt, imagine a country where siezed vessels can vanish without trace.
Ettah the speaker is a crook. ribadu is fighting corruption and adedibu according to obj is too old to be reformed hence nigerians shld manage and tolorate him and today they are saying adedibu is crying for the lost of a fellower and the gov is offering such a chicken change of 10 million.
nemesis is the name of the game and the law of karma is at work

Debosky,
for the first time in my life am hearing this.
please if he did not confess to fraud, what was the reasons for the checks he presented to the committee.
do u still remember that the first panel in the house indicted atiku alongside obj while the second indicted atiku and find no fault with obj and that was when the mamajama of nigeria came here to ask us to joing him in praising the lord that obj was finally let off the hook - please find further details from mamajam as he is still alive.
maybe u did not follow the case, his case was that the floating account have been there since 1999 and have been serving as a joint account for himself and obj. who is here that was not aware of this? pls visit this site: http://www.thenewsng.com/modules/zmagazine/article.php?articleid=14197,
http://www.saharareporters.com/www/interview/detail/?prevpage=0&startpage=10176&x=2&id=33, http://www.saharareporters.com/www/report/detail/?id=220, http://www.nigeriavillagesquare1.com/Articles/Sowore/2005/09/obasanjo-and-atiku-war-fasawe-is-first.html

by the way, can u tell me why efcc wanted atiku's name out of the presidential candidates list of inec? you can read this as it is efcc site: http://www.efccnigeria.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1242&Itemid=2

you can as well read a vanguard news of april 8 2007; http://www.vanguardngr.com/vanguardupgrade/content/view/27/1/

another news from efcc showed that the case of atiku was gazzeted as it is shown here; http://www.efccnigeria.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1047&Itemid=68,

INEC stops Atiku, Ngige, clears 477 candidates, friday march 9, 2007,
http://nm.onlinenigeria.com/templates/?a=9599&z=12


PTDF: Senate clears Obasanjo, leaves Atiku half-way free, friday may 11 2007;http://nm.onlinenigeria.com/templates/?a=9906&z=12
Senate panel on PTDF recommends indictment of Atiku and Obasanjo ;http://www.saharareporters.com/www/report/detail/?id=238

if actually u did not know before now then continue reading; http://www.elendureports.com/index.php?Itemid=33&id=265&option=com_content&task=view,

please if u still need information on any of the outlined issues, i will be here to link u up, wishing u a happy reading.

do not follow the likes of afam as he is far from the truth and he will be the last person to link u up to issues as to clarify his stance.

Afam,
i have on several occassions urged you state points on any topic you choose here in this forum.
i am telling you and i will say it to ur ribadu and he knows that too well and every normal person in nigeria knows that our problems are not with state govs.
how come in a country fighting corruption, all the ministers that served under obj are clean because obj appointed them all. how come all his aids are clean? how come all senate member and house of rep members are clean? they all left office may 29 and today is sep 18 and nothing yet.
if ribadu wants to tell nigerians the truth, he shld tell us his findings in the nigerian ports authority(npa) of which we all knew bode george was indicted. adenuga was looked for and we knew he left for ghana and all those matters died like that.
bola ige's death remains a drama yet we are fighting corruption.
we were all witness to the pdp convention which revealed the high volume of funds transfered to abuja by odili. the matter ended with odili accepting to withdrew his presidential ambitions. so tell me had it been that orji uzo kalu withdrew like odili, will the efcc still be here to tell us how corrupt kalu is?
we saw how hot it was handling the case of atiku but the peaceful end of the matter is never a surprise to any nigerian.
it will be fine for you to mention among other things, a federal contract awarded and completed by obj and his administration.
there is this rummour that the easterners are now contributing money to put the onisha - owerri express way in order yet the contract was given to different contractors and payment was made to that effect- no one even the efcc sees that as a corrupt practice.
why is yar adua revoking most contracts of the previous admin even the sales of gov houses to aids.
afam, let us know ur points name them and i will challange that.
u have seen at least a few points from me let us hear u.

na waa for all of u here, 7 wives and drinking in a joint means what? is he not a taut? he used to be one of adedidbu's hitmen. on normal elections, he wouldn't context but for the almighty selection of obj and adedibu, an agbero (taut) with 7 wives turned to a house member and one can imagine what such person will offer nigeria as a country.
the man from all indications, is grossly irresponsible.
pls someone shld help me tell the nigerian police that i am suspecting adedibu and akala in the death of their partner.
in the modern world, partners could be named suspect but in nigeria the real suspects will be the ones to tell police who to arrest and who not so at the end of the day police cannot make a head way because the man they are searching for is in the search team.
if actually the gov wants the killers to be caught, he shld increase the reward knowing too well that the killers must have charged more than that amount to kill the drunk.
the guy must have stepped on so many toes such that even in his grave, he would be confussed on who must have attacked him.
i think what we should be talking about now is how to share his juju among his children so that they will continue from where he stopped but juju pass juju so his juju don fail him.

mamajama,
we have an anti-corruption organisations able ones for that matter so if you are sure that ibb is corrupt and you have your evidence as you and afam will ask us if we have evidence why not forward them to efcc because i am well convienced that efcc is not aware of any wrong doing by ibb.
you must remember that among every other past presidents, abacha is the only one decleared corrupt by ur efcc.
in the case of govs, only five or six are decleared corrupt, my brother what are we saying here?
how come non of the ministers have so far been investigated by efcc or does it mean non was corrupt.
when will all these take place?
how come atiku's case was investigated and gazzeted within five days while everyother thing had to wait?
how long time is efcc asking from nigerians?
why and what are the basis for which kalu is of the most importance to nigerians?
what is another name for illegal contracts and illegal sale of government houses that yar adua is revoking of late? if the other name for this is corruption, it means obj is corrupt then if it is not corruption, it means yar adua is wicth hunting those that benefited from those contracts and assests purchase.
we all know the truth and it is only the truth that can set us free.
how come thieves are shouting thieves even when we all know how they all came to power.

i am not surprised that she wants such amount or more for renovation but my surprises are coming from the fact that the committee is saying the house was vandalised so by who and what is the government saying about such a terrible vandalisation that is coursing the country such amount of money?
another area of surprise is the amount of meeting been help by the pdp caccus to make sure the woman is not removed from the seat and this is a pdp that is doing everything possible to eradicate corruption in nigeria.
when are we going to start telling ourselves the truth?
efcc and other anti-corruption agents i know are also waiting to get evidence from the citizents before they will get involved.
it is obvious here that as long as the woman belongs to obj, it will still be a do or die affairs and efcc in her usual manners will tell us she is cleaner than she came on earth.
if you want to know how good our anti-corruption agents are now, just grant them interview on this scam. ribadu will make a national call on the nigerian public to bring their reports to efcc on every crime as they are out to make nigeria clean and he will reffer you to the only criminal he knows( orji uzo kalu) who made abia state his personal business. what a shame?

please let us not talk about obj and pray that yar adua will not be like him

arresting 100 people is common in nigeria so nothing to jump up about.
the dead guy in question knows the rule of the game of killing because he has been the game.
to me, my prayers has been that God to fight for the poor masses so if the big boys will be falling like that i think our prayers are been answered on that.
how many people have lost their lives in the mayhem of adedibu's oyo reign and no one is even regarding those deaths.
i think God did a wonderful job on death as even one has a must answer call - death otherwise nigerian politicians would have used all our money to buy live everlasting for theirselves and that of their families.
i know he must have died again over there in the hands of his victims who died long ago and have been waiting for him there.
i suggest the gov increase the reward to 100 million because of the guy's position in the state and i suggest the FG make their own reward 200 million plus a state burial for the guy who has contributed positively to the political and economic growth of oyo and nigeria as a whole.
adie brother. may your radical soul rest in perfect trouble.

buluti,
u can help in answering the question right especially now that the question is not mearnt for anyone in particular.
afam,
must u contribute in every thread? u are not in the usa and u are not going there tonight so why worry?
organisers,
pls tell the woman that we need light in nigeria so that she will tell her husband in case the husband is not aware

pls tell the gov to remit the 10 mil in my account as i know the person who killed the guy.
that gov is the biggest idiot of our time. he is insisting it is a political killing and then?
how many political killings have been going on in the state.
a man is down on his side now and he is about using the state's funds to look for the killers what about the opositions that have been dying.
from the way, the gov and adedibu are crying, i am suspecting the duo because u cannot trust the mafian business.
maybe the guy bleeped up so they decided to Bleep with him so close pals shld tell the son of the dead killer to stay away from the gov and adedibu so that they will not fall him as well.
the good news here is that all those guns pdp imported for elections thugry are working so i know we are yet to see the end of this pdp mafian business.
in fact, i want to mention the killers so the gov shld be ready to pay 10 million to me - AND THE KILLERS ARE THE THUGS HE HIRED DURING ELECTION BUT DID NOT PAY ACCORDING TO THEIR AGREEMENT.
agents shld tell them to pay my 10 million bcs i want to be a millionaire nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

those who live by sword must surely die by sword.
i will reffer efcc to approach the gov for offering 10 million for whosoever fish out the killer of the house member. how many people died in the same manner before him and how much was spent to get the killers?
is he more important than others.
please, nigerian robbers and killers shld concentrate more on our leaders because they are the ones who send them into the streets.
it is possible that the gun that killed this man was bought by him maybe during his campiegn.
bye - bye my brother at least u have gotten your share of the national cake.
i think ghana revolution shld have serve nigeria well if we can arrange such so that at the end of the day, people will be afraid to be leaders intead of killing others to rule as our obj will say it is a do or die affair. how can serving the people be a do or die affair?
shame unto u pdp

Iyke - D,
where is it that efcc  has gone that people have not been going?
were u not aware of the bamiyi's in nigeria? their time was too hot to compare with this ribadu issue. their crack down on drug dealers in nigeria had international welcome yet we suffered loss because of selective justice.
please tell me why pdp is doing everything possible to save Ettah the speaker on her renovation scandal? she is a loyalist to obj so nothing about her is evil.
a country that is fighting corruption has a case in hand, efcc shld take her armoud tank to the house and wait for her impeachment and arrest as it was in the case of alams.
but what do we have here, meetings upon meetings just to save her job yet we clap for the fight against corruption.
Mr. please everyone as you call him is confused because he is one of the products of corruption. yes, he wants a new nigeria but he is quiet clear a round peg in a square hole.
Iyke, mark today's date and quote me any day, as long as the war is not for all, corruption in nigeria is going to multiply by 100 in few years to come because the nigerians i know will only follow the leaders and remain loyal to get to their promise lands to the detriment of the masses.
i really do not know where u are from but in my local gov area in imo state, local gov chairman and word councellors were mearnt to be selected by the anointed person of the rulling cadre who stood as their representative in my local gov area and that is the benefits of the war we are all fighting against corruption.
usually we operate with a local zoning system but the same man in question overlooked that and made it open that he will not allow people who will ask questions before signing documents so he wants loyalists and that is our war on corruption which obj has left for us as he did in the natioanl and state levels.
please tell me, in your opinion, is obj and his administration corrupt?
if for no other thing,let us think of his reasons for holding tight to powers.
i know from the day one, there are people he will not touch otherwise his time will come to a stop. why will efcc till date drop the case of atiku after confirming him guilty. what kind of war on corruption is this. let them go ahead and threat atiku like a thief that he is instead pdp is finding a way to make peace with him and bring him back to pdp.
this is madness. i hate thinking about ribadu because he has ignored our major problems for the minors.
the speakers house which requires billions to renovate served as a resident to the past speaker and no one is asking what happened to the properties in there or is the current speaker entitle to everything in the house at the end of her tenure?
we can't be fighting this kind of war that we claim when every past leader in nigeria is a billionaire and efcc knows that too well.

this is not surposed to be a news. even if dies, he will be treated like one of those who die on daily basis on our roads because of the good nature of the roads.

Aisha,
i am sorry to disappoint u here as i am yet to see any sweet wind of change.
our roads are still getting worse on daily bases, our electricity supply has not shown any improvement, security is going down, education system is not yet a good news, basic armenities are still things of news so in which areas are these wind blowing?
we have been rejoicing that abacha's loots were recovered to the tone of billion billion dollars and so what? in which areas of our lives have the recovered loots affected positively?
billions were recovered from balogun, the question remains how does that improve the lives of the police community and improve the working standards of nigerian police. billions were recovered from alams, how did the bayesa people benefit from that?
we can't continue this way, even abacha took on some people is his own war against corruption, ibb did but the most important thing will be to what extent did this war or fight improve the lives of a common man?
who is not sure that these group of people are robbing peter to pay paul?
it is high time we began to enjoy the benefits of these recovered loots.
ribadu is arresting ex-govs - how many of them?
etteh, is under fire but ribadu will turn back tomorrow to ask us if we have evidence against her, yes she belongs to obj so no charges against her.
it is obvious here that ribadu is a member of the same nigerian police that will tell you to go and buy a typing sheet if you want to report a case as long as they have nothing to gain from your report.
as long as obj is indirectly fulfilling his third term agenda by holding to power, i see no wind as they are all the same

he mean utah chimpanzeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

mckren,
what is criminal case pls? how do u clasify the case of money laundary committed by andy uba in the usa? have you ever asked yourself what happened to the taiku's case after the april polls?
if efcc is not a tool how come they stopped puursuing the atiku case after the april polls.
they were just there to disrupt atiku on the presidential election.
in a normal constitution, 48 hours will be enough to charge someone officially beforew a law court.
do u know how many people dying both innocent and guilt in our detentions?
we are not making use of the constitution because ribadu and his boss can say who will be detained and who will be set free not minding the constitutional rights of the individuals.
it is a shame on a country so if yar adua will appoint another person tomorrow, he will come with his own excess powers to punish people who insulted him while they were in primary school.
we are not here to fool ourselves.

let us pray that the big boys are not involved in the game otherwise nothing will come out of it.
like the case of atiku, obj was involved and till today nigerians are no longer interested is asking what is going on with atiku.
by the way, is efcc no longer in the case of atiku?
has efcc finally find atiku innocent or has the war on corruption come to an end with atiku?
we can't stop foooling ourselves.
what on earth can make a no 2 citizen of a country confess to a fraud and nothing has happened to him while an organisation is shouting on how active they are and their readiness to wipe corruption.
the emergence of efcc has reduced the popularity of the nigerian movie industry (nollywood).
i am still looking at a situation where efcc will add this matter to that of NPA(bode george), adenuga's issue, atiku's matter,andy uba's case and a host of others to enable them concentrate on Orji Uzo Kalu, nigeria's main problem.

afam,
i have told u before, Jim nwobodo and alex ekwueme in their fight for supremecy, ojukwu and zik/ono, chris uba and ngige, we have mbadinuju, all from the former anambra state. an extention of supremecy came when evan enwerem was made the senate president, the most educated man of our time convienced nigerians on the state of incapabilities on the side of enwerem hence the peaceful removal of Enwerem giving chance to the man with much capacity. his emergence brought light to senate, pdp and nigeria as a whole but what happened?
the man with too much vocabulary was humiliated out of office and , so always watch your back and learn from your fathers.
in you i have seen a jack of trades and master of non. u know english and politics even mathematics yet u can't link me to any of your arguements where you have outlined points one after the other.

afam,
life itself is a learning process. instead of wasting time why not go straight to the mistake and we will be here to sort it out.
be careful not to expose your ignorance in your efforts to bring someone else down.
i know to some extent, i can always lecture on you things so am waiting,

mamajama, consider how many replies to ur posts here and compare and contrast the for and against and then place urself to ur position.
obj can make money money for media houses if it were to be the ones dealing on cartoon.
he will sell more if the use him in cartoons.
he is a piece of shit.

football is very important in nigeria so if yar adua will bring luck, then so be it because those who did not bring cup never bring good roads, power supply, security and other basic armenities of life so make we manage the one we get.
one cup to his credit is three months in office while the utah man never bring us anything.
thanks to yar adua

afam, pls we are waiting for answer so that we will be in a better position to judge who is introducing corruption in nigeria and who is fighting it.
we want to know the rationale behind third term, the selling of refinaries, government houses and the illegal contracts of which most of them have been revoked.
we want to know how obj will not be a witness in the petition over april polls. we want to know how andy uba's money laundary case in america was tagged civil case while alams was a pure case of money laundary.
we want to know why in a country of 36 states just less than 5 are on trial so far? what timetable does efcc have? how long more are we waiting for the rest of the govs? is nigeria surposed to be controlled by a single man or the constitution?
are we in democracy of emergency rule? how do u compare the idea of charging any arrested individual within 48 hours of arrest and that of keeping them till infinity like ur efcc and the obj factor?
we are waiting for a yar adua who has confessed to coming to power by fraud but working to put the wrong things right. if yar adua accepts the accusation of malpractise in elections, then who is behind these mal-practises and what punishments have been giving to them?
how are we calling kalu as if he is a factor in the country.
in his business life, he is not that succeessful compared to dangote and adenuga so why is he always the case. is his progress a treat? in politics has just been a gov and nothing more.
we have a nigerian that is 47 years and we want to accuse an orji uzo who is just a boy for the failures of nigeria at this age. if one will be ready to answer, how old is kalu and how old is corruption in nigeria.
if there is issues to talk about, let us look at the federal levels and see why our opec revenues are not enough for us to have electricity and good roads, security and other good things of life.
yar adua shld learn to put projects on ground and work towards finishing them at the expiration of his legal terms instead of everyday party politics only to end up on constitutional amendments that will make him a life president.
finally, afam, you have insulted in many ways but u praising me twice have changed my feelings for u so i remind u that the praises are: when you said upon my level of education and the latest been u saying that i may be a rich man.
i am here to claim them, i am educated and am rich in Jesus name-Amen but do me the greatest favour of answering pending questions.