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"Paul Twitchell brought out the teachings of Eckankar in their modern form in 1965.

He used to say how important it was for children to have a pet of some kind—if at all possible. It was very important for him to have a pet when he was young.

"A pet gives complete attention and devotion to the owner. Some people need this, especially children.

"A pet teaches children how to love, or at least it doesn't shut off the loving which is normal and natural for children.

It gives them an outlet. It's a very important foundation for the future."


—Sri Harold Klemp, "Animals Are Soul Too!"

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If you love, then all things will come to you. At some point love will begin to direct all your actions and thoughts. Then you can accept life.

—Harold Klemp
The Awakened Heart

The quickest way to put your state of consciousness in the heart of God is to sing HU. Just sing HU-U-U-U to yourself a few times. You’ll notice that something changes.


—Harold Klemp
The Awakened Heart

A Grandson Sees the Light of God by Chanting HU

Sri Harold Klemp, Spiritual Leader of Eckankar



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9nDK_WD2jU

Realize that as you give love to God, God’s love has already been given to you. Now all you need do is accept God’s love and return it to life.

For in returning it to life, to your fellow man and other creatures of God, you are returning it to God.

—Harold Klemp
The Awakened Heart

gameova:
Bro I need money to buy foodstuffs and also transportation to come visit. Kinda broke. Won't mind a token.

"When there is a need, you find that Spirit will bring help if you just stay open and remain patient."

—Sri Harold Klemp, "How to Find God,"
Mahanta Transcripts, Book 2

Hello bro, just stay open, opened to the reality that help is available. This is not that empty promise thing...

You don't need to come to be blessed, it's an online service by the way.

Try to learn how to contact the Holy Spirit yourself as suggested by the teachings of Eckankar. You will find that God is an everyday reality.

Remain blessed and stay tuned...

"When there is a need, you find that Spirit will bring help if you just stay open and remain patient."


—Sri Harold Klemp, "How to Find God,"
Mahanta Transcripts, Book 2

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There are four levels of dreams in daily life. Although we consider daily life not to be a dream, I’m saying that it, too, is part of the dream of God.
First there are the images or pictures, such as on the TV news, that are part of our everyday reality.


—Harold Klemp
The Awakened Heart

"Now what is the answer to this question, What's it all about? It's all about spiritual liberation. That means unfolding to the state of being a clear channel for divine love and service.
"That's all that it's about."


—Sri Harold Klemp, "How to Survive Spiritually in Our Times," Mahanta Transcripts, Book 16

You're all invited folks. Sorry I earlier stated it was 15th. It's Today 16th actually. Link below:


You may attend any or both events Online via zoom by clicking on the link below. The Online Platform opens at 7.45am:
Join
https://us06web.zoom.us/j/83702197399?pwd=WE1TYUZDMmpmZHhNaDdNUk8ycDU5Zz09

Thanks.

*INVITATION TO ECK LIGHT AND SOUND SERVICE*

Dear Blessed One,

ECKANKAR Nigeria, Abuja Centre cordially invites you to an *In-Person* and *Online HU Song* and *ECK Light and Sound Service* scheduled as follows:

Date : *Sunday, April 16, 2023*

Venue (In-Person): *11 Femi Kila Street, off Obafemi Awolowo Way by Lento Aluminium, Life Camp, Abuja*

Time:
i. *HU Song: 8.00am to 8.30am*
ii. *ECK Light and Sound Service: 9am to 10.15am*

Theme of ECK Light and Sound Service: *Being a Channel for God*

Officiator: *Ene O. Nduka-Nwagbo*

You may attend any or both events Online via zoom by clicking on the link below. The Online Platform opens at 7.45am:
Join
https://us06web.zoom.us/j/83702197399?pwd=WE1TYUZDMmpmZHhNaDdNUk8ycDU5Zz09

You may also log in using the following details:
Meeting ID: *837 0219 7399*
Passcode: *654216*

Please, you may forward this invite to anyone who is interested in attending these ECK events.

For further inquiry, please contact any of the following:
Tel: 0803 746 2100
Name: Tonbo Akobo
Local Director
or
Tel: 0806 262 3978
Name: Afulenu Ibegbu
Spiritual Services Coordinator

*USER GUIDE:*
*1. Remember that your comments are public. ECKANKAR is not responsible for any use that may be made of personal information you share.*
*2. Please do not share anything that may be viewed as inappropriate, offensive, or defamatory.*
*3. This discussion does not necessarily reflect the views, beliefs, or ideals of ECKANKAR.*
*4. To any international guests: This event is not intended for anyone who is barred by the laws of their country from attending. Please follow the laws of your home country.*

This event is sponsored by ECKANKAR Nigeria Satsang Society, a Chartered Affiliate of ECKANKAR.

Copyright (c) 2023 ECKANKAR. All rights reserved. The terms ECKANKAR, ECK, EK, MAHANTA, SOUL TRAVEL, and VAIRAGI, among others, are trademarks of ECKANKAR, P.O. Box 2000, Chanhassen, MN 55317-2000, USA

*INVITATION TO ECK LIGHT AND SOUND SERVICE*

Dear Blessed One,

ECKANKAR Nigeria, Abuja Centre cordially invites you to an *In-Person* and *Online HU Song* and *ECK Light and Sound Service* scheduled as follows:

Date : *Sunday, April 16, 2023*

Venue (In-Person): *11 Femi Kila Street, off Obafemi Awolowo Way by Lento Aluminium, Life Camp, Abuja*

Time:
i. *HU Song: 8.00am to 8.30am*
ii. *ECK Light and Sound Service: 9am to 10.15am*

Theme of ECK Light and Sound Service: *Being a Channel for God*

Officiator: *Ene O. Nduka-Nwagbo*

You may attend any or both events Online via zoom by clicking on the link below. The Online Platform opens at 7.45am:
Join
https://us06web.zoom.us/j/83702197399?pwd=WE1TYUZDMmpmZHhNaDdNUk8ycDU5Zz09

You may also log in using the following details:
Meeting ID: *837 0219 7399*
Passcode: *654216*

Please, you may forward this invite to anyone who is interested in attending these ECK events.

For further inquiry, please contact any of the following:
Tel: 0803 746 2100
Name: Tonbo Akobo
Local Director
or
Tel: 0806 262 3978
Name: Afulenu Ibegbu
Spiritual Services Coordinator

*USER GUIDE:*
*1. Remember that your comments are public. ECKANKAR is not responsible for any use that may be made of personal information you share.*
*2. Please do not share anything that may be viewed as inappropriate, offensive, or defamatory.*
*3. This discussion does not necessarily reflect the views, beliefs, or ideals of ECKANKAR.*
*4. To any international guests: This event is not intended for anyone who is barred by the laws of their country from attending. Please follow the laws of your home country.*

This event is sponsored by ECKANKAR Nigeria Satsang Society, a Chartered Affiliate of ECKANKAR.

Copyright (c) 2023 ECKANKAR. All rights reserved. The terms ECKANKAR, ECK, EK, MAHANTA, SOUL TRAVEL, and VAIRAGI, among others, are trademarks of ECKANKAR, P.O. Box 2000, Chanhassen, MN 55317-2000, USA

My job is simply to make you aware that there is such a thing as the Light and Sound of God and then help you become aware of your own divinity.


—Harold Klemp
The Awakened Heart

When you are having the hardest time, you are probably unfolding the most. This is because life in the lower worlds needs a balance.

—Harold Klemp
The Awakened Heart

Without humility, all forward progress on the path to God is stopped.


—Harold Klemp
The Awakened Heart

"Children at an early age often remember past lives, and they'll tell you about them, if you're their parent. Just ask them a question like, What were you last time when you were big?
They'll come up with some very interesting answers. If you just listen and make believe you are the child listening to a great sage, you can learn a lot from children.

"Children have the wisdom of God and are closer to it than many people who hae spent years in this world gaining all kinds of knowledge about the nature of religion. Children have it naturally."


—Sri Harold Klemp, "The Secret of Love," Mahanta Transcripts, Book 14

In a sense, this life is a dream. If the so-called dreams we have are figments of the imagination, then so is this life.


But on the other hand if this life is real, then perhaps there is more reality to the dream life than we have been able to recognize or accept in the past.

—Harold Klemp
The Awakened Heart

triplechoice:
Of course, Muslims take their religion more seriously than christiains do theirs.

Eckists on the contrary don't do blind beliefs. I have told you this severally.


They rather confirm things for themselves. Eckists know and not belief. As you confirmed, there is a difference when someone beliefs what they not have personal experience..



True believers are never aware that what they believe in is not real or true, and this why it's not uncommon to hear them talk almost exactly the same way you have talked.

You often hear some Christians announcing that Jesus is real because they have a personal relationship with him.

Believers elsewhere also rely on personal experiences as proof that their religion is real.

But unfortunately, personal experiences within religious circles are not enough for determining truth because ones mind can be easily tricked into experiencing an illusion as if real.

And this usually happens to those whose minds are susceptible to experiencing such delusions or fantasy.


There's enough evidence out there if you're interested in knowing the truth, that Paul Twitchell at the beginning actually created the Eck masters which some persons have been experiencing as real beings. Shamus , Lai tsi, originally Laozi, and others where real individuals in history which Paul had superimposed his fake version of history on in order to create the impression that Eckankar is not something new but had been existing in the past. Some other religion and esoteric groups have also done the same thing . .

So for somebody like me who's aware of all of these,, there's nothing that can convince me otherwise that those Eck masters are real.

However, I would like to say that inspite of this obvious deception in the rellgion , Eckankar still has something to offer its members or anyone else interested following the part. I can attest to this from what I know personally about the religion.


Heck more Eckists have met the departed Jesus than his supposed followers. Eckist use the tools which everyone else is scared to use.
The so called meeting with departed Jesus is an illusory experience brought on by the 'tools' those eckist are using.

I am not sure where you get the idea that the man believed and and so he had an experience from "how the mind works". If anything, his response was that of someone who didn't have the slightest idea. That's if you understand what you read.

I don't think you understand very well some of the truths your religion teaches despite some of the obvious deceptions it contains. I will remind you;

Thoughts coupled with strong emotions are the tools for creating effects in the lower world's . If you don't know how to protect your mind you can be easily drawn in to experiencing the good and the bad which others anywhere in the world have created using their imaginative faculty.

Your Mahanta, in one of his books I have read, understands very well how this works, hence he strongly advise eckist to avoid people and places where black magic is practiced so they don't get drawn' into experiencing the illusory negative mental creation of others that can wreck havoc in one's mind.

But what happens to those who not fully aware of what goes on in the environment in which they live in? I'm sure you can guess the answer?

I am posting next the experience of a Nairalander with the Eck Masters.

You free to post them maybe for others but not me. I had once read a book written by an eckist, Phil moritmusu, not sure if I got that name correctly, it was long time ago, about his encounter with the Eck masters.

And even, my friend's wife who's a Christian and still is, once shared a story of how Eck masters kept appearing , disappearing, and moving about in parlour where an Eck meeting she attended with her husband ,who at that time was an eckist, was being held.
According to her, each time the eckist in the meeting closed their eyes to sing the Hu the masters will appear and start to move around. She saw them because she didn't not close her eyes or join in the singing.

If there's anything that would convince me it was her experience. I know her very well to know she's not the kind of person to conjure anything that never happened.
But, I know better now, and my friend, her husband, is no more an eckist.




I am actually watching the game too and Arsenal are doing well



The coach made the team drop two points. Fear of losing the match actually made the team lost. Second half they were afraid to play.

Can you cut to the chase and tell me how Paul Twitchel manufactured the ECK master Gopal Das who I met in my dream as a Sunday-school-going kid?

I like how your Christian friend saw Paul's-invented ECK Masters as a neophyte ( Someone who hadn't been brain-washes to see fake things as real).

Shamus I Tabriz is another Master I told you is popular in Iran. He even has a Wikipedia page and statue built in Iran. How did Paul Twitchel do it?

Have you heard of Francis of Assisi? That one is popular with the Catholics. He is a Master as well. Hello Paul...?

Sheik Bayazid Bastami is another Master popular in Iran. Paul...?

I think to end this, let's just agree to your logic that everyone else who met them was crazy and mental, or they have very strong faith and believe in the ECK masters like your Christian friend's wife.

Cheers!

ayserose:
Yes, I agree.

Thanks a lot for understanding.

Templee333:
The difference between chieveboy and benodic is that the later does not leave his topic to argue with those who ask questions to triger argument. Whenever you are sure that what you are saying is true, don't bother to try to make people believe you. Anybody that will know will know.

Lol.

Benodic operates on high spiritual principles. The law of economy, silence and such.

The lower side of these things perhaps needs attending to at times. The rule however is one must do that with detachment and for the sake of God alone

There is a teacher for every kind of consciousness.

TheManPregnant:
Your response seemed like you were trying to defend yourself when it was just a simple conversation. Besides, I mentioned you because I have seen your invitation threads before and attended several services through them.

I get this. That antecedence (of you following the Sunday Service) would expect that you won't for a minute assume from your earlier angle that I was being belligerent.

I merely was explaining what Eckankar does based on your questions about the subject, considering that giving rules about what members eat, marry, etc equals to controlling them.

If the tone seem harsh and defensive, I believe that would not be from the semantics or grammar, so kindly pardon that please.

Perception is key. Angle of perception changes things.

If one wishes to follow Eckankar for investigative, pleasure, informative or any other reason, that is always welcome. This is what I was trying to tell you. There is no controlling of people.

Infact there are some that in this life time are only destined to window-shop religions. They would in time settle for one. This is all part of life and is necessary and important to window-shop, we have millions of life times to try things out.

Experience remains the best teacher and the Supreme Deity knows that too well, hence the putting of us in this simulative atmosphere.


I also explained that even if one does not know that life demands responsibility for actions, they will always reap it anyways. In case you are wondering why I stated that, it is why Eckankar does not control what people eat, drink or how they should think or dress. It's one's life and their lessons.


The person marrying ten wives would only have to deal with feeding many mouths and other circumstances surrounding that. During this or in the next life, the person will learn first-hand the law of economy.

If he was controlled into not marrying several wives, he may never learn the law of economy encased in the freedom to marry wives. Denying someone a vital experience to learn is a flouting of spiritual law. You can further see why...and also why we are here.


If anything, this is what I meant by "Eckankar teaches you that..." .

If this sounds like a defence still, please this is not the purpose.

Thanks you very much for understanding

TheManPregnant:
Is BetterChurch your alternate moniker?

This would be taking us to another instance of "defenc/attack".

I responded because you mentioned me earlier. After my response, you went all accusative. Any way Sha...

I maintain a single handle here. Cheers!

Lai Tsi gave me an invaluable lesson about life and death, and to this day I try to live life as fully as possible.

I have my proof of life after death, as taught to me by the great spiritual ECK Master Lai Tsi, and that's something no one can ever take away.

Excerpted from "Earth to God, Come In Please" . . . , Book 1, copyright © 1991 ECKANKAR. All rights reserved.

Instantaneously, I was transported back into my physical body.

The heaviness of my physical shell was immense after experiencing life as Soul, and I cursed myself thoroughly for what I had done—weighing the five more weeks in the Marines against a blissful life in heaven.


After I was through cursing, however, I opened my eyes to pitch darkness, and Lai Tsi's voice said to me, "Did you think we would let you die when you had decided to live?"

As his merry laughter trailed off into the ethers, I regained my vision to see a worried nurse standing over me, giving an injection. You should have seen the strange way she looked at me when I opened my eyes and started laughing!


Cont'd

Lai Tsi emerged from this circle of great love and communicated to me, "As you know, your physical body no longer functions in your previous world. But you have a choice.

You can remain here with us and continue your experiences, or you can go back to your physical body and live out the life you planned. The choice is yours."

Before I continue with this story, I must confirm that, as it is said in the Eckankar teachings, thoughts manifest instantly in the higher worlds.

As Lai Tsi and the others hovered over the grassy knoll, I clearly remember thinking, Well, I only have five weeks left in the Marine Corps.

Cont'd

Throughout his literature, Paul Twitchell describes the Soul experience in very vivid terms. All I can say is that no words do justice to the experience, as he also points out in his various books.

As Soul, I was a 360-degree viewpoint, traveling through a tunnel of light. It was incredible! I arrived at a grassy knoll, overlooking a yellow sea and felt a tremendous presence of love surround me.

I remembered being taught to send out love as soon as someone crosses over the threshold of death, and as soon as I did this myself, I was surrounded by hundreds of beings, all of whom I had known in previous incarnations.

Cont'd

TheManPregnant:
This is not an attack. Why are you on the defensive?

Anyway, don't bother again

This is very very interesting.

"Attack", "defence" .

Please where did you see such?

Amazingly it began with a "Hello" and ended with a "Thanks".

I really am lost here.

TheManPregnant:
You have not addressed my enquiry

Hello,

Eckankar does not control people. They are given the freedom to do as they please in terms of sex, marriage, lifestyle and any other life endeavor.

Eckankar teaches you that you have every right to do what you want, but then you must take total responsibility for your action s. After all, we are always held accountable by life wether or not we know it.

The Eckankar website has a FAQ section:

https://www.eckankar.org/explore/faqs/

Thanks.

7:12 p.m.: A cold numbness starts crawling up my feet. Uh-oh, I've experienced this before in my dreams. As soon as the coldness reaches my chest, I find my consciousness has shifted to the inside of my crown chakra, located at the top of my head.

It is a strange sensation to look down at the interior of my body. An instant later, I find myself being pulled right out through the top of my head!

The title of Paul Twitchell's biography, In 'My Soul I Am Free', takes on new meaning. I later found out I was clinically dead at that moment. Happy birthday!

Cont'd

The rest is a blur of action: walking next door to the gas station; calling the paramedics; passing out in the driveway; regaining consciousness in the ambulance; the paramedic trying to be funny by asking, "Having a good birthday?"; being taken into the emergency room.

It is now 7:00 p.m. Just as the doctor is about to see me, a man is wheeled in who has been kicked in the head by a horse. Since I am no longer considered at risk, I am taken into a side room while the doctor treats the injured man.

I look up at the clock; it is 7:10 p.m. Two more minutes and I will be twenty-two years old.

Cont'd