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MaxInDHouse:
Where you go to doesn't count like telling us why everyone has to be there!

Very simple: you should be there to see things for yourself so you prove beyond even reasonable doubt itself. Seeing is believing they say, though we say "if you see, you no longer "believe", you know"!

Maynmann:
How then can you say what you don’t know?
What if “god” means poo? Who taught you otherwise?

If IT means "poo", the joke would be on you. Remember IT is not concerned if you acknowledge ITs existence or not, neither does IT seek validation from anyone. Just focus on love. That's all. At Least that one is tangible.

Maynmann:
Where were you taught? Who taught you?
From which religion? Abrahamaic religion? Hindu? Greek religion? different concept of “God/god”.
God/Deity is a title not a person, the deities of Abrahamaic religion are numerous but the popular ones are Yahweh and allah. In yoruba religion their god is “aloof”.
Let’s know the particular deity you were taught?
Why are you cherry picking and plagiarising different parts?

Let's make it easier:

"Without being taught..."

Maynmann:
Where were you taught? Who taught you?
From which religion? Abrahamaic religion? Hindu? Greek religion?
God/Deity is a title not a person, the deities of Abrahamaic religion are numerous but the popular ones are Yahweh and allah. In yoruba religion their god is “aloof”.
Let’s know the particular deity you were taught?
Why are you cherry picking and plagiarising different parts?

We're taught God can only be love at any given point in time and nothing else. IT (God) is not concerned with acknowledgement of it's existence, praises and austerities. IT knows what IT is. IT simply is an Ocean of Love and Mercy...

Wouldn't you rather Love someone, animal place or thing then? In doing so, you are actually doing yourself a lot of good and service [/b]beyond striving to get a place "at the right hand of God", [b]belonging in an religion, "believing" and all that. There is actually nothing more beyond Love!

Maynmann:
Your master is a desperate forger with no intellect of his own, plagiarising other people’s work, just like the early Chrestians bwahahahah


Yes stay on the topic and don’t bring your eckankar traveling and hiking BS.

We're taught God can only be love at any given point in time and nothing else. IT (God) is not concerned with acknowledgement of it's existence, praises and austerities. IT knows what IT is. IT simply is an Ocean of Love and Mercy...

Wouldn't you rather Love someone, animal place or thing then? In doing so, you are actually doing yourself a lot of good and service beyond striving to get a place "at the right hand of God", belonging in an religion, "believing" and all that. There is actually nothing more beyond Love!

elated177:
You sounded there like chieveboy. Are you him? Could you throw more light on the emboldened?

LoL I Function here as this handle only. To corroborate on that quote, instead of trying to investigate practitioners of a religion why not investigate this deities yourself? Any one can do it. The major problem is thinking you cant.

The taste is usually in the eating, not someone eating for you. Eckankar had made public means and tools you can use to explore any plane, planet or destination without having to use spaceships.

Eckankar says you are a spaceship of sorts that's billions of miles more fantastic than a man-made spaceship or even the ones the gods built (chariot of fire)

Maynmann:
All paul needs to brainwash you with is “scientists” , even with no name or evidence as soon as you hear “scientists” your head go stand.

What’s the origin of the word “science”

Fact that Paul Twitchell and “scientists” taught you
Seems in eckankar religion, “scientists” mean different things, whiteman ooo bwahahahah

You will make several attempts to no avail in making me point you in a direction where this scientific work is made available.

I will however bring you back to the point of this thread. Be advised that's only what I will be pasting in response moving forward:

We're taught God can only be love at any given point in time and nothing else. IT (God) is not concerned with acknowledgement of it's existence, praises and austerities. IT knows what IT is. IT simply is an Ocean of Love and Mercy...

Wouldn't you rather Love someone, animal place or thing then? In doing so, you are actually doing yourself a lot of good and service beyond striving to get a place "at the right hand of God", belonging in an religion, "believing" and all that. There is actually nothing more beyond Love!

Maynmann:
Yes keep mentioning the unknown “scientists” that Paul Twitchell taught you
Is it not to mention without evidence? Who can’t do it?
Keep mentioning

Spiritual travelling and hiking bwahahahah

Paul "teaching me about scientists"? Scientists o? Do you know the meaning of Science?

You even sound like you want me to point you in the direction of this fact

Me? Feed a hyena vegetables? Do they even eat that now?

Maynmann:
Lol, You only need to see the look in your face when you realize you’ve been scammed by a white man, Paul Twitchell

But I just mentioned scientists proving and working with that scam and rendering it as a service, so Paul is your problem all this while

Maynmann:
You only know what they teach you in eckankar.
Spiritual travel bwahahahah

Lol you need to see the look in your face when you find out this is even an established scientific fact so much that this is even rendered as a service to government and security agencies...

Maynmann:
Where did you learn “spiritual travel” from?
You also can’t prove that zeus is a myth.

Hope you know “god” comes from theos.
Which theos are you talking about?

Hope you know “jehovah” is a greek TRANSLITERATION of YHWH and it was coined by a monk and added to the first English bible by willaim tyndale that’s also coincidentally a Jehovah witness

I know Spiritual Travel by nature and default just like everyone else, this however is accentuates by the teachings of Eckankar especially the Spiritual Exercises.

About Yahweh, Jehovah ,Elohim etc, please I am not referring to them. Thanks

MaxInDHouse:
Do you have any question or you just feel like saying your mind like everyone else?

I would have loved to ask if I am sure you know anything beyond what is written in your book.

Someone who had been to Aso Rock villa and participated of it should not come asking someone who only reads about Aso rock--a discombobulated account of Aso Rock at that, right?

Maynmann:
God/god/goD/gOd/GOD whichever way you’ve been conditioned to write it is a title not a person.
Substitute “deity” for “god” in your statement and see how you sound.
Everything you know about Deity is from religion. How did you know “god” is a being? And this being asked to be worshipped? You even know his will?
This being seems human to me.
And you are even talking about “satan”, are you sure your deity is not from middle east?
Where are you getting all these terminologies from? Hope it’s not from tanakh and Chrestian books, cause the name of their deity is called yahweh, the Israelite god.

This is were Spiritual Travel comes in. Both of us can't prove anything here, we however can if we are able to traverse this physical domain to to dimensions where whatever point we're trying to confirm exists. If we do, we actually do not need to 'travel' as it were. We merely project our awareness into these places and we would have 'travelled'.

After all is done, we would then place "GoD", "god" ","deity" etc in their rightful places.

None of the beings worshipped today are humans. They however are advances beings from other planets who function Inan chain of command and authority to execute the plan of the ruler of the worlds of creation know as Jehova.

Maynmann:
Worshippers of allah also claim this.
Or is the Israelite god, yahweh the same as allah, the arabic god?

Yahweh, and all of that are not the Supreme Deity. A lot of founders of religion actually presume that must have been God when the see the majesty of the Yahweh's and Jehovas.

The spiritual travellers who know better let people who care know that these beings are actually agents and school masters doing an assigned duty by the Supreme Deity and one of such duty is to keep souls trapped in the School Worlds till a soul is purified enough to bypass them. This means they present themselves as the one and only true God in a bid to keep souls entrapped.

One of the deities in worship today doubles as Satan. Whatever he does, he is merely doing his duty. NO creation or entity can go against the will of the supreme deity. You are actually not wrong or right if you worship any of the deity posing as God.

MaxInDHouse:
Let him continue perhaps he can gather his kind for worship since he's been posting in all the threads on the religious section calling for his kind.
Please don't call anyone "clown" each person is calling for their kind: Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Judaists, Traditionalists, Christendom and of course JWs. We are all calling out for our kind each religion will get their kind, that's what Jesus said:

Let both grow together until the harvest, and in the harvest season, I will tell the reapers: First collect the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn them up; then gather the wheat into my storehouse. Matthew 13:30

The bundles in this parable refers to different sects all claiming schools of thought!

In your camp, I can let you know I know subliminally in your heads is this 'assurance', pleasure and satisfaction that the someday, a lot of you will gain your VALIDATION (called "rewards) when your counterparts are

collect (like) the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn them up[/color]; then gather the wheat into my storehouse. Matthew 13:30[/b]

right? It's like some people will get their vengeance finally when the rest of us burn .

See, why not try to visit this heaven while alive to validate instead, or even that particular day in the future when the burning will be done to VALIDATE? It is possible and ordinary people including your kids at home have been doing it--visiting heaven daily until when the start to read those stuff that tells them it's evil or such. Everyone does it albeit unconsciously, tland then they will act and look like drunks on the streets of the Astral plane aka First Heaven...

It is being done since the existence of flesh and blood and before scriptures were written and religions made, so much that our redesigners and "makers" have to find ways to keep us permanently inside the body because we are spirits and we tend to 'vamose' too fast for their liking. It is our default nature or God-given skill like the ability to formulate words and speak it. .

If you think it's impossible, it's impossible only due to your mind and things you've read and accepted as "de word of de lordu". In the past, some folks believe it's impossible for mankind to fly in the sky. We literally do it today. They called the pioneers of flight "clowns" just like your church boy calling both of us clowns

Please feel free to paste scriptures that further bottle up your spiritual gifts and abilities...you are OYO.

The point...

litigator:
It’s possible

Good to see someone with an open mind. It is not just possible. It has been going in for a long long time.

Cool and not cool.

One day, sleeping humanity will learn about a galactic council and guardians who ensure the trajectories of these meteors are tilted off on our behalf.

One day I said...

MaxInDHouse:
Which you success in your endeavor!

Thanks

MaxInDHouse:
You are talking about which of the Gods?

The supreme deity. The one that is neither male nor female. The one whose quality is only LOVE. Nothing like momentary anger or any Satan trying to overthrow IT and all that.

Nameless, indescribable, unquantifiable. Omnipotent, Omnipresent and Omniscient-LOVE ITself (to say the least).

Back in the day, I did all that "rightousness, Following and Obeying God" thing and though well, "one has to do these things else, one may risk not enjoying the promises of God" in their life or getting something worse like risking being burnt eternally if one does not play by the rules...that kind of stuff...and God to me was something else...

I could not 'look at God in the face' (so to speak). It's a do-or-die, obey-or-be-damned thing.

I'm somewhere else now in life now where this God-via-love is all is done. It feels safer to do the 'God' and 'heaven' thing this time.

Down here, we're made to understand that this 'love' we have for our girlfriends, pets, family, vocation, food and so on is actually a sacred faculty of ours touching the very garment of God that we are all part of and we feel it as 'Love' or a sweet feeling...

We're taught God can only be love at any given point in time and nothing else. IT (God) is not concerned with acknowledgement of it's existence, praises and austerities. IT knows what IT is. IT simply is an Ocean of Love and Mercy...

Wouldn't you rather Love someone, animal place or thing then? In doing so, you are actually doing yourself a lot of good and service beyond striving to get a place "at the right hand of God", belonging in an religion, "believing" and all that. There is actually nothing more beyond Love!

Guilt, self-pity, fear of God and such, are actually spiritual crimes we do against ourselves and God (by extension). We suffer the consequences like like timidity, low IQ, and so on.

Sing any religious song you know with all the love or gratitude you can muster to God or even another person. This may be more powerful than a 40day fast for you. This is the key that unlocks you to realize the sea of Love/God you are presently floating in...

Blessings...

ayourbamie:
I am the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the father except through me... Unless there's another father somewhere.

My opinion though.

Heaven actually not "father".

If you want to meet Jesus' father, you talk to him. That's what that statement implies perhaps.

The however OP is concerned with heaven that he is already part of but unaware of.

Dear OP,

I can let you know for free that you visit parts of heaven daily and you call it "dream".

People who die gravitate to a part of heaven they have earned while living the earth life. There was no moment when you are completely isolated from heaven and you need absolutely NO religion or belief in a deity to visit or go there after you die.

The difference is in the quality and which part of heaven. This is determined by how much love you have given or not given.

Your baby at home cannot make much difference between heaven and earth. The baby plays with friends from the other side, speak with them and sorts. They start to lose this ability after starting school most of the times or when adults chide them from that "fantasy".

fman:
Are eckist christains?

No they are not, even though Christians and others do register for the ECK teachings. Thanks.

Dear lovers and seekers of God, you are once again invited to watch, participate or spectate today's live Sunday program via zoom. Remain blessed!

Dear Blessed One,

ECKANKAR Nigeria, ...TEMPLE Centre, cordially invites you to an In-Person and Online HU Song and ECK Light and Sound Service scheduled as follows:

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Venue (In-Person): TEMPLE OF ECK, RUMUIGBO, PORTHARCOURT.
Time:
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Theme of ECK Light and Sound Service: … SEEING THE HAND OF GOD IN THE EVENTS OF EVERYDAY LIVING…..

Officiator: .... EVELYN WOY ......................

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Move to groundnuts

MaxInDHouse:
My guy there are just two roads one is broad and spacious the other is narrow and cramped according to Jesus you can switch lanes on the broad road but on the narrow road you can only find the path that few are passing through it! Matthew 7:13-14

So if you've left a religion and you can't confidently say the religion you left is not good then you're still on the narrow road switching lanes!

The problem here is that of crystalises. A spiritual/mental crystalises. This is spiritual death. It is a state where the sufferer fails to catch the spirit of the letter but is fixated on the Letter. They can't move beyond the experience of others written as Bibles and Quorans. The box is closed and sealed. I cringe at the prospect of that.

The nature of the Holy Spirit however is dynamism. Dynamic in the sense that it can never be static or dormant where no change occurs or no room for change. This is what is meant by "where the spirit is, there is liberty". This nature of God/Holy Spirit has it that no thing is ever static (bound, imprisoned, boxed).

The more closer in nature it is to the original state (Holy Spirit), the more it becomes liberal (unstoppable, permeable, or omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient) as in gases, spirit etc. This is the state of being light. It brings happiness, allows people to be what they chose (freedom, wisdom, knowledge-Love!).

This feature (of dynamism) further creates infinite states of consciousnesses that creates the condition whereby no two people can be alike or be in the same state of consciousness even if being fed from same book, pastor, church and even the Holy Spirit etc, and so can never walk same path. Everything is tailor-made. Books are for references to lead one into their distinct universes that is their unwritten, unspoken and unseen word of God. When they experience God personally and not read about IT, they KNOW and not believe.

So the statement that there are only so and so number of roads or path to God is a huge statement characterizing the ignorance of the speaker about the actual events of reality and it's behind-the-scenes.

Sorry I know I am wasting my time. You have one text ready to be pasted to show I am lost or from the pit of hell

As said by someone here, this may not necessarily be for you.

As usual, today's session commences with a 30min HU Song by 8AM followed by a 30min break. Thereafter, Main Session holds 9-10AM. Today Sunday September 4th.

Lovers of God are invited to watch participate or spectate. Enjoy.

Dear Blessed One,

ECKANKAR Nigeria, ...TEMPLE Centre, cordially invites you to an In-Person and Online HU Song and ECK Light and Sound Service scheduled as follows:

Date: .... SEPTEMBER 04 2022 .............

Venue (In-Person): TEMPLE OF ECK, RUMUIGBO, PORTHARCOURT.
Time:
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ii. ECK Light and Sound Service: 9am to 10.15am

Theme of ECK Light and Sound Service: ....... SEEING GOD”S HAND IN EVERYTHING ……………….

Officiator: .... ERNEST AZUKAEME ................................

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Wisdom.

Looks lively

Rozross:
Eckanker na church?

Wetin be church?

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