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Babateemd:
I need a pond for rent to start and learn catfish aquaculture. Any idea where I can rent a space.

where are u based?

KayDawodu:
Calm down chief. There's nothing wrong with letting the guy know his application is poor. Maybe he could have worded the criticism differently but it's all for the better. Trust me, he'll face a lot more of those in the future while trying to secure a job and also in other aspects of life.
As for your allegations, the world needs people like Chilan Farms to balance things out. As far as I know, he hasn't caused any troubles on Aquabren. Stop being paranoid

#kay tnx oooo... If this guy submit an application like this to my farm I will not give it a second thot. I believe we can correct each other. He has contacted me personally n hav been working on his case, I hav a farm in lagos where he can be absorb. Let whallers keep whaling...

fzero:
What is wrong with u , y do u like abusin and causin problem everywhere u step in. From aquabren to Nairaland. Everyone should watch out for this fellow, nothing good comes out of you. All ur plans will fail on this thread.

#lol... am here to make sure no 1 fall victim of scams like u n ur ogas, the guy in question contacted me n I promise to fix him up u fool. FZERO! Wat a name F9! Go back to school n get common sense. So many ppl hav deal wiv me here n on Aquabren n they didn't regret doing so but u n ur team only hav ursefish interest @ heart. Hav helped a lot and will keep doing so... I will keep bursting una bubbles SC ARMERs.

hankkk:
Does anybody need an extra hand with his catfish farm?I just completed my nysc and I'm looking for a fish farm to start working.. I have vast experience in fish farming business( from hatching to sorting to harvesting and everything in between). I reside around Isolo,if you're interested in my services you can contact me on 08126401351. thanks

# ur application is poor.

Smiles! Hope ya'll r doing fine? I pray you are. sorry most of us are always busy on d farm n only come online @ leisure periods. For fast response to ur question n solution to challenges chat Chilanfarms on 07065874135. I don't hav handout to give or sell. Am not an internet farmer.

eluyode:
to everyone in this trend say a BIG THANK YOU... bcus you have shed light on my heart aching issues. @pumppie pls is there a way i can contact you.... also is there anyone from ile-ife here.... my contact... temmytharyor@gmail.com / 08132618792(call nd WhatsApp ) i love to also bring a suggestion of creating a WhatsApp page so as to give instant help... thanks alot God bless our labour

# u can add chilanfarms on 07065874135 we offer free consultation to intending farmers n newbies. Goodluck!

lawstenie:
Pumppie/chilafarm, am grateful for your prompt response. Ok let me give a quick run down of the farm. I stocked 750 post fries per say though the farmer sold them to me as fingerlings cos they weighed 1.2g and less at the initially time of stocking. I want to raise to table size. Am giving 0.5mm coppens for now.


Pumppie/chilafarm, am grateful for your prompt response. Ok let me give a quick run down of the farm. I stocked 750 post fries per say though the farmer sold them to me as fingerlings cos they weighed 1.2g and less at the initially time of stocking. I want to raise to table size. Am giving 0.5mm coppens for now. I was advices to give 0.8mm next. pls what do you think? I really want to get a good result.

# 1.2g r not post fry ooo bros. Standard fingerlin sef na 1g of which most no deh even weigh 1g.

lawstenie:
hello everyone, pls how do i wash new tarpouline pond? I have fingerlings that are I still feed with 0.5 coppens. pls can someone tell me when to change feeds and to what. Thanks

after 2weeks move to 1.8mm skretting.

Ifedayour007:
You are really a genius sir. I so much love how you handled everything and God will continue to bless you. Please help me with the picture bellow, let me know if it's a right thing to do, I have some fish pond and I don't know if it's right to channel one pond into another. Please reply. Thanks..

yes u can but mak sure the fish in the l pond is bigger/older dan d one b4 it and so on till d 1st pond wic will be d smallest. Hope u code?

thompson1510:
125kg of powdered gelatin feed up for grab. @ a very cheap price. I have two 50kg bags and another 25kg. Shipping is free. Price is 8k per 50kg( NEGOTIABLE ). Thanks to all my ogas on this thread, I believe I dont need to say anything again concerning the feed since oga robonski don talk. All is well. Thank you all...@chilanfarms, abeg I wan buy juveniles, I need your contact.

aii sir 07065874135 or 08076515345.

The needful I believe have been done, big up to Robonski... let d aggrieved embrace peace. Shithappensgetoverit!

komakan:
Oga. I observed that you just opened account on nairaland today and u are antagonising people and also talking about 2013 issues on nairalabd. If you are sent I will advice you to fear God.

#smiles! Do u do dt witness against some officers of jonathan are disappearing small small? Komakan leaf d dude... na so 1 luck weh deh beg me to come n work on my farm deh post stuff like say him get any experience @all... Robo started this tread n has help a lot of ppl, so wen theirs a floop we should shot our mouth like say na one naira we deh talk about... well just like hav said over an over I belong to nobody I belong to every body. #Sensebeforeslogan!

onifadeayo:
Nobody said anything about 2kg in 4 months sir i am very satisfied as i have never achieved it using any other feed, mind you the vagabons are the initiators of the whatsapp group i meant to say. From 2013 this thread has been tackling issues in fish farming, we have seen quite a number of farmers burnt their fingers which feed where dey using.?

so u mean ur memtors Soft n robonski are vagabon cos they r d brain behind d whatsapp group inquestion. U hav 700g hmmmmm impressive wat qty of feed? Robonski is not d initiator of d said feed mind u he's just an associate. Be u anybody try trash u will be mentioned! D MD of of a certain bank is in EFCC custody today cos he involve himsef wiv Diezani... if the like of saraki can be facing all this challenges then soft n rob r small not to face d anger of ppl that trust dem n follow them to d whatsapp group. I personally fought wiv som ppl over soft, so na only u be their feed cus? Soft is not in da country mind u he has change his return date countless no of times.... wat bitters many r his lack of customer service skill, shit can happen but u knw how to manage d issue. @time I take d blame of a cus on ma sef just to keep dem n still maintain d relationships. I hav countless no of records of ppl that has been burnt I mean ppl who r not even on d whatsapp group... this ID; somebody is not on d whatsapp group. Mind u the whatapp group is not just a group is now an Association backed by the Law.

onifadeayo:
ordered juveniles from robonski and co there was a delay in getting my fish to osun state but finally arrived ,first used the gelatin powdered feed it was a disaster due to its preparation, switched to gelatin pellet and it worked like magic, sorted yesterday at exactly three month average weight is 700grms robonski did a constant follow up on their progress and made sure i did the right thing.
I was added to an unknown whatsapp group (clan)i exonerated myself from them they are forming group to sabotage robonski effort. i have some numbers and chats for proof.
Look at someone i know on this thread crying fowl about the gelatin feed, someone that made a loss on his previous stock using imported feed. Nigerians we are our own problem

Mr excelsior a word of advise exonorate yourself from all these its a trap its so glaring in the eye, cos you are also being targeted as well, dont let some vagabond spoil what you have created for years now, your name has gone far and wide, remember a lot of Nigerian are looking upto you and robonski dont jeopardize it, NIOMR , FADAMA has their eyes on this thread.

#peace

Smiles.

All is well that ends well. Not all that glitters is diamond! B4 u leap look very well.... do enjoy the rest of ur weekend great Farmers.

Nigeria is in the state it is because of our mind set. #OccupyNationalAssemble is on going to drive home some point to our leaders. We are here discussing in parables issue that hav cost some farmers a fortune, Stonedigital don't mince words with any1 on this issue again pls.

fzero:
sometimes i seem not to understand some folks, if u try out a feed without result stop using it and get the feed that better suit u.
Truth be told how many of us has taken it upon ourselves to test the so called foreign feed?Not at all because it is branded foreign. Excel said because a feed is cheap doesn't make it bad which i totally agree. Right from time immemorial fish farmers have been loosing their hard earned cash with the same imported feed like wise me. I remember i lost more than half of my stock using top feed who did i run to with all their CP i achieved nothing. From experience farmers tend to blame their shortcomings on a new feed most especially when it is cheap.

Cheap feed can be very good, most times that I don't hav time to go sit @ feedmill i buy a locally made feed here #160 per kilo but now #180 i hav result for that even without knowing the CP, wen u hav ur own ppl deceiving you it's a bad thing... do u knw wat Topfeed went thru cos of their bad feed production? U can't just produce trash and sell u will face the music. You think becos u don't or didn't speak up against topfeed some other ppl didn't? We hav SON, NAFDAC & NDLA if u don't knw they don't take things like this likely. No man is a island against justice. Let those with good testimony come up n talk. They can't cos they were all burnt.

pumppie:
I think there is more to this than what u have said. Well, if u decide to keep quite and not be specific no p. Its ur choice. As much as there are credible farmers, consultants and products around it pains d heart that a lot of people and products indeed lack integrity. This lack of integrity issue is d difference between most of our local feeds and d so called foreign feeds. My advice, if u cannot professionally prepare ur own feed which might not be cheap too to be honest, use any of d available feeds that have stood d test of time and with intergrity too. Its not about d numbers u stock, its about how well u can manage it. So stock only what u can adequately cater for instead of seeking cheap alternatives promising u high cp but a scam. Don't worry tho prosperity will surely judge all those scammers!

AMEN!

Today I will like to warn us all here from falling victim of fraud, alot has been happening lately and some farmers hav been defraud of their hard earned money by some ppl they trust here thru sales of seed and feed. Don't be deceived by face or sweet mouth find out about the company before parting with your money. In a sad mood as I drop dis little piece because some of my fellows are been hurt by ppl they became loyal to cos they were giving dem cheap solutions to challenges on their farm..... farmers open ur eyes n ears.

ennybiyi:
Good evening, am new on here but have read a lot on here, I waant to start my fish farm as well, I don't know if there is anyone here who has pond(earthing) for rentage in Apata side or ogbomoso, wiith access to water. Am interested please.

#which Apata are u referring to? Ibadan own? If yes I hav u can contact me on 07065874135

excelsiorfarm:
Zartech sells between 18-30 tonnes of fresh catfish every week with people coming from lagos & it environ,to as far as port harcourt,even abuja & beyond to ibadan to purchase from them. Showing that there's always room, if you can meet d desired quality & quantity

you work wiv zartech? How do u knw d qty dy sell per week? they can sell more dan dt.

Ttalk:
Good afternoon my people, i just want to use this medium to thank selfless member of this forum who have been generous with information to young catfish farmers and i have been tutored by so many of you despite being far apart but your advise has been the light that illuminate the darkness world of fish farming.

One of my resolution to produce 50% of my feed by myself this year [2016] has been achieved with the designing of a locally produced grinding and pelletising machine that i now use to produce my rich pelletised feed. The 2 in 1 diesel machine uses one motor to drive the grinding as well as the pelletising machine and it has been very efficient.

My thanks goes to our professor in feed formulation, our amiable Ab1x for his contribution and advice on feed formula. I am very proud to announce that my 2mm feed with 40% fishmeal, 45% animal protein and 54.7 crude protein is less expensive compare to coppens 2mm. It is an eye opener that our local feeds if well formulated is far richer than the so called foreign feeds.

Mr Robonski, Soft777, Oga excellesoir, Chilanfarm, Komakan, Phemmy, Mecylicious, Billy and my respectable Nuvemberz, you are wonderful people, you have driven the passion to take calculated risk into our lives and we would not disappoint you.

Thank you all

# you are welcome sire. All here for each other

belusconi:
Good Day Fishpreneurs,
We are a newly built, developed and equipped Nine Stars Hatchery and Farms located at Shagamu, Ogun State.
With Technologies & Ideas from India, Vietnam, Thailand, China and Nigeria our farm boast a monthly production capacity of about 500,000 or more fingerlings production as of now.
The fries are produced from a selection of hi breed and well taken care 3 to 5 years old Brood stocks. A well balanced diet is followed in taking good care of these parent fishes in which they are fed on high quality proteins for optimal & fertile egg development, B-glucans to support the immunity system, Extra Vitamins C and E to improve the general status and fertility, powerful mix of anti-oxydant and astaxanthin which make sure that the eggs produced are of a very high quality, sustainable and the fries produced would be grown at a greater speed with weight, body & immunity.
Our fingerlings at week 7 to 8 have an ideal size of about 3cm to 5cm weighing about 3 grams to 5 grams, These fingerlings when ready to be moved out of our farm are technically graded and sorted which gives them a uniformity to reach direct to table size level without being sorted or graded again, We have experienced farmers and specialist from India and Nigeria who take care of the well-nourished and nutritional diet of these fingerlings from day 1 of hatching.
We start our opening sales with a promo to encourage more and more local farmers to get into commercial fish farming, our offers as follows:
100 fingerlings with purchase of 1,000 hi breed, very active and fast growing fingerlings.
* 2 bags of 1.8MM/2MM imported fish feed with purchase of 10,000 hi breed, very active and fast growing fingerlings (booking open till stock last)
* 5 bags of 2MM/3MM imported fish feed with purchase of 10,000 hi breed, very active and fast growing juvenile (Only on pre-booking and waiting of max 2 weeks)
Kindly check out & like our page on Facebook - Nine Stars Hatchery and Farms for more details, information and new promo offers.
Contact: Mr. Seun ( 07053823433)

what a good offer. Hmmmmm!!! Which area in shagamu is ur farm located? 2weeks pre-booking? Hmmmmm.

olabakefish:
@Chilanfarms the budget is neither wrong nor right it is a model subjected various factors, do you know that you can use only either coppens, Ranaan, Aqua Aller vital or top feeds, alone bearing in mind they all have different sizes and protien requirements for different ages of catfish and you can decide to stick to one brand from start to finish. At the end when you check the total quantity of feed to total cost you get an average cost per kg.

Based on my pricing research on average cost per kg of some selected feed brands as at March 2016 in Alagbado area of Lagos
Coppens is N400/kg
Ranaan 335/kg
Vital 300/kg
Well constited local feed 250/kg

Mind you, some of the respected contributors of this page Oga Soft777 and Robonski15 are the architects of the feed I used as reference point which many of us are commending including you if am not mistaken. Made us understand that the Magnet Gelatin feeds with 62% cp of which higher % are animal protein can be applied to the fishes from Juveniles which was the fish age I used.

I used the newly produced floating Gelatin as a reference which is even more expensive than the powder and pelleted ones which are about N200/kg or there about.

Like I said earlier it's model in which you can slot in your peculiar cost elements.

Chilanfarms you are also a respected contributor, it will help baby farmers like us, if you can tell us the the Magnet Gelatin feeds in not fit to be used as a point of reference in account model, I took my intellectual knowledge and time to come up with to help us in this forum.

This accounting aspect of me speaking not the baby fish farmer.

Olabake fish 'More Fish Oil to your Elbow'
I rest my case

@olabake I like ur accountability sense n God bless d brain more. I understand u perfectly well. The feed I hav not use but I believe to a large extent d brain behind it are ppl that want d best for farmers thus the birth of the Feed...

olabakefish:
There is no straight way jacket to this in my humble opinion.

I have tried wrapping my head round this for a while and the following are what I deduced.

You need to first understand the major cost elements in relation to the peculiarity of reactions to other cost input given that they are constant.

What I mean is that there are different variables that can be held responsible when output is not as expected.

From the above, quality of seed (fingerlings or Juveniles), quality of water, quality of feed, type pond, management practices (feeding, change of water and diseases control) all play keys roles and are major determinants of output.

Given that you are able to get major variables right, which in most cases can't be 100%. The next thing is budget planning.

A lot of farmers seems to run into serious trouble with budget planning especially on feeding, I am a living example, I had to quickly dispose my stock aim at table size for melange with just 2wks to expected time. Why because I had underfeed them and with the wrong version of feed in a bid to cut costs.

I will talk about feeding first which usually deals farmers with the deadliest blow. By rule of catfish farming to get 1kg fish you have feed the fish 1kg feed some may take less to give save size I have seen fish take just 520grms and grew to 1.2kg.

The experts like Oga soft and Oga Robonski usually recommend at least 800grms to get 1kg given that all other variables are correct.

An accounting minded person will always exercise caution in budget planning by envisaging the highest cost possible and the lowest returns possible.

Let take rearing 1000 fishes to table size from juveniles for example.
Major cost to be considered are:
Cost of seeds (1000 x N 20) - N 20,000
Cost of feed (800grms x 1000 fishes) = 800kg x N240/kg (current price Magnet floating feed) = N 192,000
Cost of pond for the period- (to be determined by you i. e divide cost of building the pond by useful life period)
Cost of labour - (to be determined by you i.e you take care of the fishes yourself or you employ ppl)
Cost of medication- usually minimal if mgt practice is good
Cost changing water - depends heavily on type of pond and system you practice
Other miscellaneous costs.

After arriving that total cost for the production period,
the next thing is to determine your revenue, don't forget I said envisage the highest cost and the lowest revenue this will help to absorb unfavorable unexpected events.

Ask around in your locality what price do they buy your target production size. You will get different prices then pick the lowest price, it doesn't mean you sell at that in the end.

Also important, have it at the back of your mind that you will lose close to 15% of your stock before harvesting if not more. You can even raise it to 20% like oga soft told that if he want 5000 fishes for harvest he stocks 6000. You can do d maths. After that not all fishes will reach 1kg at harvesting time and will go beyond 1kg. That why important practice like sorting and adequate feeding should not be over looked. Oga soft they talk am try and sort your stock he told us that a farmer stock 5k fishes only to see 1k fish at harvest and fish don't dissappear.

Let's take lowest price N 450/kg in my locality AIT area Alagbado in Lagos and you get most likely 750kg at harvest i. e N450 x 750kg = N337,500 as your revenue

Then your profit for the production period will be
Revenue - Total cost
N337,500 - (20,000+192,000+ others to be determined) = N ?

Note the prices are prevailing prices as at March 2016 in my locality as mentioned above so in using this model you need to consider the environmental factors in your vicinity.

I rest my case in my own humble opinion.
My learnered Ogas at the top can help make corrections where necessary we are all here to learn.
Olabake fish 'More Fish Oil to your Elbow.

To table size ur feed budget is wrong, why stay on a particular feed frm juvenile to table size? They only need 36% animal protein frm fingerlins to post jumbo frm post jumbo to melange u cut animal protein to 28% and as d climbing goes up u reduce animal protein wic is d most expensive ingredient in feed production.

Good morning fellow future holder of our great Nation Nigeria...m Chilanfarms just wana wish u a great day ahead [size=8pt][/size].... DOAGRICITPAYS

[quote author=matrixme post=44670943]Many thanks sir. Here is the pics... I meant the pool can be drained externally by pumping machine but there is already a healthy plankton bloom in the disused pool. So I am thinking to drain such large water because of four frogs might not be worth it. Two are as big as a clenched fist and others are a little small. What do you advise sir?
https://i65.tinypic.com/kcea2b.jpg[/quote #Frog,toad or tadpole are predators that should nt be given any tiny chance of been close not to talk of entering ur pond b4 stocking ur fingerlins. This are 1 of d reasons u stock 2000 and @ harvest u only get a shock of ur life. Sorry ma contribution is always short cos time is short.#smiles!

We are here to help each grow... if some ppl comes here to fraud ppl they will not last talking frm experience. Just open ur eye and pray always.

manya:
the pics below shows my setup of hatchery. as i said i have two tanks as hatching vat the second attempt of my hatching yielded the result in this picture, about 300 eggs hatched out of about 100g of egg mass from 2kg of female broodstock. though i have not tested my borehole water, i have been using it fro fish farming for over a year, i have now taken some to a lab for test since i have no meter.
my coach kept saying the eggs would have hatched even if they are not matured enough but the fries would not survive. my problem is the eggs turn white twelve to fifteen hours after spreading them using spoon on the net.
On stripping my eggs are normally green is that normal? i used to add little water to the egg-sperm mixture before spreading is that ok? i also start flow through of water immediately after spreading and allow that to continue for the whole 30 hour or 24 hour period, is that ok? i do not cover my hatching vat after spreading the fertilised eggs as said by Robonski, could that be a problem?
the small fish are the 7 days old ones that have hatched.
please kindly help answer to save my endeavour. thank you.

from the pixs it's wrong for d tap to run directly on ur mesh. U cover d vat up not leave open like this, did u use salin water b4 H2O?

remros2:
I've waited impatiently to hear an elaborate detail on this issue. Pls I'm in Ibadan, and I'm a fresher who is yet to harvest my first crop of catfish. I've approached these mama elejas and d idea I've been given is that a kilo is for 430. Is this a good deal? Then d issue of a kilo is a kilo, should there really be a difference between kilos? Pls enlighten me sirs!

@Remros hw r u? Ibadan price ranges btw #400-470 depending on ur average weight n ur bargaining strategy... don't act like u are a fresher to dem. Don't allow dem pack ur fish into a sack n put on d floor b4 weighing.

vickifeanyi47:
Pls can I add 2 different fishes from different farm in the same pond? will they harm each other. they are of the same size..I don't have means of getting extra pond

# u can but theirs a chance dt fish frm farm a has a hiden infection or has grown resistance to a particular disease/infection and adding such to another stock wiv is infection free but of less/low immunity may become a disaster. But if u can condition d new fish to be add b4 adding to d existing stock then u r 80% safe...

manya:
Hello farmers, a very good evening to everyone,
I have started learning to hatch, i have done it four times but only one was successful. i dont seem to understand the problem because i have followed the rule given to me and what i read from agricnetwork. after injecting at about 8 pm i strip at about 6 am the following morning mix the egg and sperm and then spread on the mesh. i then allow my water flow through to start. after 24 hours i find my egg very white with no sign of any life in there. i gave up after 30 hours and washed the net and vat with disappointment.
i was suspecting my female broodstock eggs as they always appear green before i hatch. my coach told me that is not the reason for the failure to hatch as even unripe eggs do hatch but the hatchlings hardly survive. i also suspect the flow through immediately after spreding the fertilised eggs on the mesh for the whole period of hatching.
please gurus in the house should help me out as i am getting worried every day.
thank you.

# ehyah sorry about that.... ur coach should do justice to d problem. Wats d age n weight of d broodstock? Slight mistake could floop d own procedure up, frm ur explainnation here somtins r missing. Hw did u fertilize? Hw did u spread d eggs on d mesh? Wats ur water ph?