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d light: The marriage bed is supposed to b kept undefiled that's what d bible prescribes. So for any christian wedding this is expected to be adhered to.

This marriage bed everyone talks about, is it before or after marriage?? And why will there be a marriage bed before marriage?

SELFWORTH: YOU ARE CONTRADICTING yourself. See below .

Poster @mathewalab said it all;

It is extremely sad that majority of those who have responded on this topic were fake christian who did not understand why they attend church services or being a CHRISTIAN.

A Christian is a little Christ( a follower of Christ, living and abiding with the principles of the word of God -BIBLE)
Please anytime we face with questions as regard our faith, the first question we should ask ourselves is - what is the position of the word of God - Bible?

Now, follow me to read: HEBREWS 13:4 "Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefilled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge"

PLEASE RE-READ THE SAME PASSAGE USING NIV VERSION AND YOU WIL HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING. THANKS.

Before I am criticized, I am not in support of pre-marital sex. However, I am of the opinion that once a man sees the parents of his intended wife and pays the bride price and fulfills all other traditional requirements for marriage, sex at this point is not a sin.

tete7000: Peter asked Jesus how many times must I be offended before I stopped forgiven, seven times? To which Christ replied 77x7 times meaning as long as people keep coming for forgiveness Gog is ever willing to forgive. Applied to this issue, even if people had engaged in premarital sex and are now willing to living as legitimate couple, God will never withhold his grace. [b]Problem most churches have is that they are manmade and as such their rules are men and not Gods. They are people Jesus said go one mile to get a convert only to make him worse than themselves. Vindictive, jugdemental, unforgiven and driven by desire to punish than show mercy. God does not desire that people die in their sins and will willingly join erred couples together pregnant or no pregnancy. [/b]Do these churches not accept couples with children into their churches as converts? If they do why do they now refuse to wed pregnant couples? Sheer hypocrisy and lack of scriptural undrstandng. No man has a right to condemn another. Let him who has not sinned be the first to cast a stone, Jesus is reechoing.

I like your post. It is the most sensible I have read so far, especially the bolded section (though I have not had time to read all the posts).

I however want to add a twist to the topic:

Twist 1- Couple A engages in premarital sex till the wedding day but bride was not pregnant and they were joined. Couple B engaged in premarital sex but bride got pregnant before the wedding and obviously were not joined together. So the question is which of the couples are justified in their actions as per church "rules"? Couple A or Couple B?

Twist 2- Medically, positive pregnancy test could be false. Those in the medical field can explain better (certain drugs containing some chemical substance could influence this blood pregnancy test). So the issue is this, if the bride is tested for pregnancy and it shows positive while she is actually not pregnant, is it justifiable for the church not to wed the couple as the pregnancy test from their renowned authentic hospital says it is positive?

So to me, this test could complicate things. LET CHRISTIANITY LEAVE MAN-MADE RULES AND DO THE THINGS OF GOD AS GIVEN IN HIS MANUAL FOR US.

Why are our entertainment people dying any how? What is wrong? They even die faster than they are replaced. Soon Nolly wood and the like will go to extinction. If its true story, RIP sir.

Ileke-IdI:
Your wedding night?

How can it be my wedding night? She no dey fear to answer me like that?

sawyerrola: hahahahahahahahahahaha...now i know you are following Xzhibits footsteps, not my own again..lol...how madam dey jare?

She is fine o. I will come with her to visit you. i will let u know when.

brokoto: Don't you guys think that before geneticists will give those 3 probable causes they must have been absolutely sure she didn't play away match?

The doctors dey follow her go every where she go? Na only God can answer that question o!

sawyerrola: Calculusx, I am still transforming you SUV....lol....some small changes again. took delivery of my Borla dual exit exhaust and i got them fixed almost immediately. thought it was a plug and play DIY job. most definitely wasn't, very minor mods anyway. now my SUV roars. shouldn't increase my fuel consumption i hope (i was actually told it wouldn't by the manufacturers), but would monitor its performance. for the kind of impressive sound i get from the roar, a few mpg off the expected wont be so bad after-all. lol...

My Oga Sawyerr, you got me thinking with your modifications on you SUV. As one following your footsteps, I think I will go further by mounting a DSTV dish on mine when ipurchase it. Calculus, can this be done from abroad? I want it to look custom made,

$25 million:
Away match. Bros take heart o. So much for 21st century feminine liberation apologist. But again a DNA testing less than $30 would serve as a silver bullet.

Maybe he does not want to go thru all the trouble knowing the child is not his, that's why he accepted the baby just like that.

Come to think of it, I wonder why the genetic experts did not analyse away match to be one of the causes?

A DNA result would reveal many things.

calculusx: Waoooo!!! Congratulations. May GOD bless your Union. Make i follow you apologize to Chief Sawyerr, oga sawyerr, pls accept our apology and we promise such will never happen again.

Amen and thanks. Hope there will be a freebie on the purchase cos of this? (madam is watching o)....and ogs sawyerr it will surely never happen again unless i choose to go for second wife.

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T-Cann:
Lol!!! ok o! I was expecting a full tank of fuel but you gave me a pair of spare keys! Anyhow, its still something sha. Thank you sir!

You seem to be greedy.

Calculux my man, sorry I never even look this thread. I don see a glimps of the picture. I was busy you know........ This weekend was my wedding (both trad and white) so it was very busy for me. I know some one here will chop off my head once he sees this. But make I apologies to am before him read am.

I am very sorry sir not to have informed you about the wedding. I put am for Facebook but maybe you no see. I am sorry again. Hope madam and the kids are doing well? This apology from me the apologizer goes to a certain particular apologist. oga Sawyerr I am on my knees o.

manalejo: No, they are not called that. Pray for understanding of the Scripture.

I think you need to pray for understanding. When is fornication committed? Is it before marriage or after one is married?

A married man cannot commit fornication like you said. So if the bible says put away your wife for fornication, how can you reconcile that? Is it not the married ma it was referring to? Who is wrong, you or the bible?

Hint: A married woman can be put away for having sex with another man other than her husband.

ProPastorChris: Now many castigators of this MOG are suddenly turning back to swallow their vomits cos of what he said, now they praise him, bunch of hypocrites

Furthermore, you guys - I mean castigators of MOGs be ready cos the affluence of the church is just about bursting forth and the world will not be able to comprehend or handle it.

Is it private jets that you guys are grumbling about you will soon see action cos the church is the richest individual in the cosmos

We are just about warming up, some of you guys will definitely comit suicide out of anger and frustration when you see and hear of what the church will do.

Which of the riches do you think is more important? Riches of the world of riches of the spirit?

taharqa: When you fight corruption, corruption fights back..

Exactly what is playing out. Corruption is fighting back. But the problem is corruption will turn out to be the winner as gullible Nigerians (in SEC) will also mount pressure on Oteh for small favors or out of "make the small money we dey see no loss" syndrome.

alexdidi: First comment! Where are de conspiracy theorists

small pikin behaviour.

Omo_Tier1: Any surprise why you are still looking for daily crumbs to live by? Get some wisdom ... Givers never lack and sowers are bountiful harvesters. If you think you give money to your pastor then you get a pastors blessing. But if you gave it to God for His kingdom to expand, you will experience the rains of heaven! Be a giver to the core and stop complaining.

Now the simple question for you is "how do you sow?

Do you do so only by just coming out to give $10,000 to your pastor when requests for it at the alter without any specific reason as to why you are giving out your money?

Very wrong move uncle Jona. Very wrong move. We may regret this very action in a couple or years or months from now.

If you ask me, I will say all these are pagan practice. They are not Christian. Pray in and out of season is what the bible says. God does not wait every 100years for such dates in order for you to pray for him to take out all your struggles, sufferings, poverty, sickness, kill all your pharaohs, etc.

I wonder when "Christians" will stop pagan doctrines.

dapsy4u2: Guy u no serious at all, fight for dream ke? at that age

You never see. Fight dey even start from mama bele sef. Jacob and Esau can explain better.

dapsy4u2: The joy of parenting is procreation i.e bringing babies into the world. But it becomes annoying sometime when the first noise that wakes you consistently for days/weeks/months in the morning is the cry of a baby.

I would like to ask my knowledgeable nairalanders the reason for this and one can stop it.

Thank you

If you know the fight them fight for dream in the night eh, you will understand that they need to cry in the morning when they wake up!

Chinekemeeee! So it's my little cousin who won it at last!! Wow! All thanks to God the giver of talents. She is really talented.

chiteny: My Oga, so you love-vendor the ride too? You too like better thing!

Nairaland na wa o. Which one be "love-vendor" the ride again? I meant p.imp my people.

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its a community of happy Calculusx customers which equals a happy driving experience.

My Oga, so you love-vendor the ride too? You too like better thing!

lollydyss: Your advice will help my friend

Am 32 years old dating a girl of 27years.I have been following this blog for a while now and am encouraged with some of the advices given here.Am sure you are all aware of the recent killings of the four students of UNIPORT in Aluu community.Am a native of Imo state.All this while,i never gave it a thought to know my woman`s village in Port-harcourt,but the recent killings of the student made me to be curious to know her particular village in Port-harcourt.She tried to cover the issue,but I insisted on knowing and she said it`s Aluu comunity.It really came to me as a shock,this is because,this same girl have threatened me with a knife few months back when we had a minor argument.Please my people your advice is greatly needed as am so confused at the moment.

Thanks

Children will always be children. Moderator please send this thread to children section.

Honestly I cannot vouch if this man is a true man of God, but I am falling in love with his simplicity and humanitarian gestures. Let me wait and see if he buys a jet later or not. Then I will conclude about him.

zumbigbo: A 37-year-old man, Malam Mukailu Naibi of Keke village, Kaduna, on Monday asked the Grade One Area Court, Lugbe, Abuja, to dissolve his two-year-old marriage because his wife had starved himm of sex for two years.

Naibi also asked the court to compel his wife, Maryam Suleiman’s parents to refund the dowry he paid to marry her.He further asked the court to order his wife to pay for his house which she allegedly set ablaze.

Naibi said his wife had refused to make love to him for two years since they got married, adding that she set his house ablaze so that he would be compelled to give her a divorce.

“Your worship, since we got married over two years ago, my wife has never allowed me to make love to her for once and all my attempts to do it always led to fighting.

“I married her out of love, and I still love her, but with this development, I have no choice but to ask the court to grant her divorce wish for the sake of peace. However, her parents must refund the dowry that I paid them before marrying her, while she has to pay me compensation for my house which she burnt down,’’ he said.

The 16-year-old wife, who has been living with her elder brother at Lugbe, Zone 9, Abuja for the past three months, however, denied her husband’s claims.

She told the court that her husband had made love to her once, adding that he did not impress her and so she wanted a divorce which he had long refused to grant her.

“I don’t love him, I don’t love anybody who bears his name and I hate anybody who loves him,’’ she said.

Responding to Naibi’s request that the court should order his wife’s parents to refund the dowry he paid on her and his burnt house, the judge, Alhaji Haruna Masanawa, asked Naibi the total financial claims.

Naibi asked for time to go home and calculate the total amount.

The judge adjourned the case to Dec. 12 for judgment. (NAN)

I wanted to comment but when i saw this i thought i should reserve my comment.

I done even comment sef. Mtcheeww. All these aboki people.

Corkydiosis!!!! You are back!!!

manalejo: He has not truly forgives his wife, if he does he will continue his role as the husband and this include sleeping with her again.

To you all, read your Bible very well with open eyes, the Bible did not say one should divorce his wife because of Adultery. But Fornication, and a married woman/man cannot commit fornication.

Matthew 5:32: "But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to
commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery."

Matthew 19:9: "And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another,
committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery."

Fornication takes place before a man and a woman becomes legal husband and wife

...and are they called husband and wife before being married?