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PoliticsRe: Jonathan Cannot Contest, Says Babangida by chyz(m): 3:42pm On Oct 04, 2010
I thought that not too long ago it was written into law that in order to be president you had to have a college degree. Is this law still in effect or is it being ignored like the rest of the laws? Also, if I'm not mistaken I don't think IBB has a degree.
PoliticsRe: Jonathan Lobbies Ex Militant To Denounce Abuja Bomb Blast by chyz(m): 3:37pm On Oct 04, 2010
It still baffles me how the so-called ex-militant leaders are allowed to walk the streets freely after admitting involvement in attacks that took the lives of many. They are even allowed into Aso Rock.
PoliticsRe: Bomb Threat In Anambra by chyz(op): 10:52am On Oct 04, 2010
Since when have Igbos began bombing their own people.Let whoever sent the text go sit down.
PoliticsRe: Bomb Blast, The Cia And Nigeria! by chyz(m): 10:50am On Oct 04, 2010
konami001:
THOSE OF YOU CLAMOURING FOR IBB IN POWER, PLEASE DIGEST THIS,

The CIA may want Ibrahim Babangida standing as the presidential candidate and Orji Uzor Kalu as his running mate.

General Ibrahim Babangida ruled Nigeria from his coup against Muhammadu Buhari in 1985 until his departure in 1993.

Allegedly, Babangida is a CIA asset.

"The CIA cut a deal with Babangida, where Nigeria was used as a major drug transit and money laundering center for the proceeds of the CIA drug trade." (CIA Agents & Nigeria.)

Orji Uzor Kalu was a candidate for President of Nigeria in the April 2007 general election. [1]

(Maryland police cleared Orji Uzor Kalu of involvement in the death of a woman, Chinwe Masi at his residence in Maryland, USA.)

"Reports say, Kalu drives into CIA Virginia Headquarters freely, with little on no clearance required of him as expected of visitors at CIA headquarters; sources told RR that only CIA agents and its operatives can have such access in that CIA Virginia facility, others pointed that Orji Uzor Kalu is in proximity to CIA Virgina headquarters, ‘he is their boy’ another commentator who spoke on condition of anonymity added." (CIA Agents & Nigeria.)

<http://aangirfan..com/2010/10/cia-in-nigeria.html>
Of course the CIA is behind all of this. why do you think the US and Britain had intelligence about a bombing that happened in Nigeria? Obviously they are working undercover in nigeria as well. But just to let you know now, Get ready for NLers to come on here calling you a conspiracy theorist, F.O.B. africans usually do that.
PoliticsBomb Threat In Anambra by chyz(op): 10:45am On Oct 04, 2010
[size=18pt] Bomb threat in Anambra[/size]
•Fear grips residents
From Geoffrey Anyanwu, Awka
Monday, October 04, 2010

https://www.sunnewsonline.com/images/peter%20obi.jpg


Anxiety and fear have gripped residents of Awka, the Anambra State capital following the alarm raised yesterday by the state government over a threat by some unknown persons to bomb the state in the next 60 hours.
This is coming barely 48 hours after a bomb explosion in Abuja, which claimed over 10 lives.

The threat came in a text message, warning that explosives would be detonated in Awka if Governor Peter Obi, who is the chairman of South- East Governors Forum, failed to resolve the issue of the strike embarked upon by the lecturers of the state owned universities in the South-east.

The text message, which is being circulated within Awka and its environs, warned that the Government House, Awka,  would be attacked within the next 60 hours if the Anambra State University (ANSU), which  had been closed since the strike was not re-opened by the governor.

It reads: “The bomb blast that happened at Abuja yesterday will explode in Government House Complex, Awka, in the next 60 hours from now if ANSU strike is not called off. Tell Pita Obi.” Since July 22, 2010, the Academic Staff Union of Universities (ASUU) South-east have been on strike, following non implementation of agreement between Federal Government and ASUU by the South-east governments.

South-east governors had been urged by students and prominent personalities to implement the agreement reached between the Federal Government and the national body of the Academic Staff Union of Universities (ASUU) over welfare matters, but the governors had insisted that the Federal Government had advised lecturers in state and private universities to negotiate with the individual states.


http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2010/oct/04/national-04-10-2010-019.htm
PoliticsRe: Goodluck Jonathan Says Mend Is Not Responsible For Abuja Attacks. by chyz(m): 10:23am On Oct 04, 2010
Princek12:
Mr President should name the culprits responsible for the attacks, then, since he hastily stated that MEND had no connection to the attacks. Since he concluded that MEND is not responsible, I am sure he should have known, or at least have a list of suspects, who the responsible parties are.
I guess GEJ is was involved in the bombing he seems to know who is who now.Although i think the two guys being bombers is a load of BS, how did he know so that they weren't connected to MEND. Does he himself keep in contact with mend?
PoliticsPresident To Meet Govs, Security Chiefs by chyz(op): 10:17pm On Oct 03, 2010
[size=18pt]Security beef-up in Aso Rock[/size]
•President meets Govs, security chiefs
•North not using us – MEND
By Daniel Alabrah
Sunday, October 03, 2010





Security within the Presidential Villa in Abuja has been beefed up following Friday’s bomb blasts near the Eagle Square venue of celebrations marking Nigeria’s 50th independence anniversary.

The explosions claimed no fewer than 15 lives, including State Security Service (SSS) and Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) operatives. Scores were also critically injured and are receiving treatment at various hospitals in the federal capital city.

Consequently, President Goodluck Jonathan would this week be meeting with the country’s security chiefs and state governors over the disturbing anniversary gift to the nation by the Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta (MEND), which claimed responsibility for the blasts.
But, the group dismissed claims that it had become a willing tool in the hands of disgruntled Northern politicians trying to scuttle President Jonathan’s bid to contest the 2011 presidency election.

Sunday Sun learnt yesterday that the Presidency quickly moved to tighten security in Aso Rock on Friday evening just as President Goodluck Jonathan gave marching orders to the security agencies to track down the perpetrators. A Presidency source informed that there was an “unusual security movement” on Friday evening, which caused panic among workers in the Villa.

It was also learnt that movement within the fortress has been restricted as workers now have to obtain permit from the office of the National Security Adviser (NSA) before they can access the residential area.
Hitherto, staffers wearing the Villa’s identity card were allowed access to the residential area, which has the President and Vice President’s lodge.

MEND has, however, said the bombing was not politically–motivated as being insinuated in some quarters.
In an electronic mail response to Sunday Sun enquiry, the group’s spokesperson, Jomo Gbomo, said the attack was not meant to embarrass Jonathan nor had political undertone.

Rather, it said it had to do with the issue of injustice in the Niger Delta that is “being swept under the carpet.”
“It (bomb blast) has nothing to do with the dirty Nigerian politics and more to do with the injustice in the Niger Delta, which is being swept under the carpet. “Our fight is not about a Jonathan presidency and has more to do with addressing the injustice in the Niger Delta, which includes fiscal federalism,” Gbomo stated.

The South African connection
Sunday Sun investigation revealed that although the group was planning to strike, it had to fast-track it after Thursday’s early morning raid on the Johannesburg home of its leader, Henry Okah, by a combined team of about 100 heavily armed South African soldiers and policemen. The security personnel had stormed Okah’s home about 3am on Thursday, reportedly acting on a petition from the Nigerian government to the South African authorities that the MEND leader had a stockpile of explosives and other dangerous weapons in his home.

Although Gbomo said the attack had nothing to do with the raid on Okah’s home “because such a delicate operation requires careful planning to execute,” Sunday Sun learnt that the group was particularly angered by an alleged deception on the part of the Nigerian government.

It was gathered that on the eve of the raid on Okah’s home, a presidential aide and former commissioner in Bayelsa State (name withheld) and a top official of the State Security Service (SSS) had phoned the MEND leader to assure him that the government was doing something about addressing the group’s grievances.
The group was therefore shocked that a few hours later, South African soldiers and policemen led by a Colonel raided Okah’s home in a Gestapo manner and held his wife and children hostage for about 10 hours.

The law enforcement officers, reportedly acting on a petition by the Nigerian government, were said to have stormed the residence with sniffer-dogs and heavy equipment used to destroy the main door leading to his living quarters and guesthouse while a helicopter hovered around the area. Okah, who confirmed the raid in a telephone interview on Friday evening, said he initially thought they were assassins because of the way they stormed his residence.

“We were sleeping when we heard a loud noise in the premises. The initial suspicion by my wife was that the attackers could be hired assassins. So I had to quickly bolt my bedroom door. “But less than two minutes later, I heard a loud knock on the door and I bolted out of the room. Before my wife could even respond, they had broken into the room and for one hour they were searching for me in the house.

“They also broke into my children’s room and held my 15-year-old and seven-year-old daughters at gunpoint. My daughter is still in a state of shock following the incident. “My wife later informed me, because I left with a phone, that they were security personnel. I came out from where I was to meet them and wanted to know why they raided my home even without a warrant.

“The man, who led the operation, a Colonel, told me that they were acting on a petition by the Nigerian government that I had weapons in my home, which I was using to prosecute fresh violence in the Niger Delta.
“I told them that the Niger Delta crisis had to do with injustice, the type suffered by South Africans during the days of apartheid and that it had nothing to do with me. I also told them that the agitators were freedom fighters like South Africans and were risking their lives to end the injustice and economic strangulation being meted out to the region. At the end, they found nothing incriminating in my house but that was after ransacking and destroying my apartment,” Okah said.

He added that he knew nothing about the Abuja bombing as he was sleeping when he got a phone call from a correspondent of the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC). “I was taking a nap when a BBC reporter called to enquire about the Abuja blast. I have no knowledge of it. I do not live in Nigeria and the government should look inwards to solve its problem,” Okah said.

Gbomo also tried to defend Okah’s purported role in the blast, saying: “If Henry Okah’s home was not raided on the eve of the attack, the government would have put the blame on him and even insinuated that he was spotted in Abuja like they did after the Warri attack.” The presidency is however said to be unhappy over the way the South African authorities handled the raid on his home, his purported arrest and release. A security source informed that the government would explore diplomatic channels to get the South African government to revoke Okah’s residency.

In 2008, Okah was arrested in Angola by the Angolan authorities acting at the request of the Nigerian government. He was deported to Nigeria where he was held in solitary confinement for 18 months and secretly tried on a 62-count charge bordering on terrorism, illegal possession of weapons and treason among other capital crimes before a Federal High Court in Jos.

In July 2009, the government under the late President Umaru Yar’Adua filed a nolle prosequi and withdrew the charges against Okah before granting amnesty to several Niger Delta militants and groups.

Security lapses
It was further learnt that the incident could have been averted if the country’s security agencies had taken the information on the bombing seriously. Sunday Sun gathered that the Nigerian government had been reportedly alerted by the British intelligence that an insurgent group was planning to strike on October 1.
According to a source close to one of the security agencies, the information was however treated with levity and that effort was concentrated on securing only the Eagle Square, where the President and other dignitaries were to be present.

Gbomo also claimed that the government was given enough warning on the bombing even as he expressed regrets that innocent lives were lost in the incident. “The avoidable loss of (lives) is deeply regretted. The government was given ample time of five days and a further one hour before the first blast. Any responsible government would have evacuated the public and used the public address at the venue to calm people and follow the instructions to avoid milling near vehicles and trash bins,” Gbomo said.

Our national security porous – Ekiyor
In his reaction to the incident, immediate past president of the Ijaw Youth Council (IYC) and convener of the Nigeria Youth Integration Summit, Dr Chris Ekiyor, described the attack as “barbaric, on a day Nigerians were celebrating their nationhood.” “Those who carried out the bombing are unpatriotic and wicked. They deserve to be apprehended and summarily brought to book.

“However, what the incident showed was that our national security is very porous. In other climes, security personnel would never allow a stationary car near the venue of such an important event. Can you imagine the American security allowing an immobile object, camera or bag near where President Barack Obama is attending an event?

“It is equally unacceptable that on a day our president was hosting other world leaders, bombs could explode close to the Eagle Square venue of the celebration. “We should begin to take the issue of security seriously in this country otherwise we will be endangering the lives our leaders. We must take steps to beef up security around President Jonathan. If this could happen in Abuja, which is the seat of government, nowhere is safe anymore in the country, and this should be a matter of concern to all Nigerians,” Ekiyor said.


http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2010/oct/03/national-03-10-2010-001.htm
PoliticsRe: Police In Nigeria Name 2 Suspects In The Dual Car Bombings by chyz(m): 9:56pm On Oct 03, 2010
Dis Guy:
if they are from 'abroad' surely the government will show us their picture so we know not to approach them at least they will be on a national database somewhere- electoral list, student i.d card, previous criminal record, airport tickets??
GBAM!
PoliticsRe: Police In Nigeria Name 2 Suspects In The Dual Car Bombings by chyz(m): 9:54pm On Oct 03, 2010
one mopol:
Are you not being ST. U.PID for making a statement like this? You guys can go to hell with your useless SE votes which is fast turning a blackmail tool.

Your warrior Ikemba already promised the evil genius igbo votes anyway.
Like i care what you type woman. grin
PoliticsRe: Police In Nigeria Name 2 Suspects In The Dual Car Bombings by chyz(m): 9:50pm On Oct 03, 2010
netotse:
ehen o. . .

people have been complaining that GEJ didn't name ppl when he said it wasn't MEND but now that the govt has released names, people are turning around to complain. . .
The thing is how do you get the names that quick? It just happened 2 days ago. Its been years and nigeria still doesn't have the real name of Jomo Gbomo!LOL shocked huh
PoliticsRe: Police In Nigeria Name 2 Suspects In The Dual Car Bombings by chyz(m): 9:39pm On Oct 03, 2010
The bombing just happened 2 days ago. He said he already knew who they were the next day. Hows that possible? And now they happen to give non-ijaw(MEND)  and non-northern(boko haram) but and Igbo and fake english name.Wow! GEJ better have the media tailored because it is going to be the cause of him losing SE votes and also othe southern votes as well.
PoliticsRe: Why May 29 Handover Date Is Bad For Nigeria, O’odua Groups by chyz(op): 8:16pm On Oct 03, 2010
This matter should be taken very seriously and I hope that they make enough noise so that the president may hear and change this May 29 date.
PoliticsWhy May 29 Handover Date Is Bad For Nigeria, O’odua Groups by chyz(op): 8:11pm On Oct 03, 2010
[size=18pt]Why May 29 handover date is bad for Nigeria, O’odua groups[/size]

Adewale Adeoye, Lagos 03/10/2010 00:00:00





THE Federal Government has been urged to change the handover date to any other date in the fifth month of next year except May 29.

In a release on Saturday, a coalition of ten South-West based groups led by the Oodua Liberation Movement, (OLM) and the Yoruba Cultural Global Foundation, (YOGCF) claimed that the May 29 date has negative "material, moral, spiritual and physical implications" for the future development of the country.

The two groups in a statement signed by Mr Dele Daramola stated that the May 29 date was imposed on the Nigerian people by the "spiritual leaders of the Hausa-Fulani stock" adding that the date was picked as a symbol of Northern domination over the entire ethnic nationalities in the country.

He said the idea of picking a green-white-green flag out of the various flags designed for Nigerian independence was also a form of "spiritual conquest of the other ethnic nationalities by the Hausa-Fulani North, the flags being of the same colour with the ones handed over by Uthman Dan Fodio after the conquest of many indigenous territories in Northern Nigeria during the Jihad."

The groups stated that "the Uthman Dan Fodio-led Jihad which subjugated the entire indigenous communities in the North began on May 29, 1804, the attack on Yoruba territories of Ilorin bagan out on May 29 1835, the date of the self independence of the Hausa-Fulani North was May 29, 1959, while the pogrom of the Igbos began on May 29, 1966.

The idea of handing over to democratic government on May 29, 1999 was deliberate. It was a calculated attempt to keep Nigeria in physical and spiritual bondage and to tie the future of the people to the apron of the Hausa-Fulani Northern hegemony."

The group stated that the Northern establishment had made request for the granting of Nigerian independence on May 29, 1960, but that the move was countered by both Muslim, Christian and traditional institutions from the South West who knew the implication of such a move.

"Every country has its own spiritual and physical dynamics. The choice of May 29 has a powerful implication and symbolizes the conquest of ethnic nationalities in Nigeria which must be changed by President Goodluck Jonathan," the groups stated.

The claims of the two groups regarding the sequence of dates could not be confirmed as at press time. However, a politician of Northern origin who does not wish to be named said the claims of the groups "are likely to be untrue."


http://thenationonlineng.net/web3/news-update/15060.html
PoliticsRe: Early Morning Shooting In Owerri by chyz(m): 7:17pm On Oct 03, 2010
Theres no such thing as Aba boys or girls or whatever they call themselves today coming to Owere. The kidnappings in Aba are sponsored by Abia politicians, if there is going to be any of that nonsense in Owere it will be Imo politicians getting Imo indigenes to do the deeds.
PoliticsWe Know Those Behind Abuja Blasts, Says Jonathan by chyz(op): 12:50am On Oct 03, 2010
[size=18pt]We know those behind Abuja blasts, says Jonathan
[/size]
03/10/2010 00:30:00





CONTRARY to claims by the Movement for Niger Delta (MEND) that it was responsible for the Independence Day bomb blasts in the federal capital, Abuja, on Friday, President Goodluck Jonathan yesterday said the incident was a terrorist attack that had nothing to do with the militant group.

"We know those behind the attack and the persons sponsoring them; they are terrorists, not MEND. The name of MEND association that operates in Niger Delta was only used. I grew up in Niger Delta, so nobody can claim to know Niger Delta than myself, because I am from Niger Delta," he stated.

According to Jonathan, "What happened yesterday had nothing to do with the Niger Delta. People just use the name of MEND to camouflage criminality and terrorism. This is just similar to the kidnappings that have been taking place in the South-South and South-East parts of the country by people who kidnap for money."

President Jonathan spoke yesterday in Abuja during the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) Parliament international colloquium marking the 50th independence anniversary of African countries. He said the release attributed to MEND, claiming responsibility for the blasts on the grounds that the Niger Delta had been neglected, was not tenable.

According to him, " For anybody to work with terrorist organization and try to use the Niger Delta as a camouflage is totally unacceptable and I have informed the international media that it is totally a camouflage and it has nothing to do with the Niger Delta."

He also reiterated the Federal Government’s commitment to improving the security situation in the country, saying: "I am assuring Nigerians that government will take care and deal with the issue by redoubling effort in the security section."

The president who was at the National Hospital earlier to see victims of the bomb attack also assured the victims of government assistance, saying that the Federal Government will pick up their bills and also assist the families of the dead ones.

"Surely, Federal Government will take care of the bills and we are going to reach out to the families of those who have lost their lives and see the little the government can do to cushion the effect of the loss," he said.

The colloquium was poorly attended by Heads of State and Government of ECOWAS, and President Goodluck, who chaired the event, was the only head of state present. Burkina Faso president, Blaise Compaore, who was the patron of the colloquium, could not attend the meeting because he returned to Ouagadougou and was represented by his Minister of Integration, Minata Samata.

More than 200 dignitaries were invited by ECOWAS parliamentarians including current and former Heads of State, Speakers of National Assemblies, but only few attended.

The reason for their absence could not be ascertained as most of them attended the country’s 50th independence anniversary celebration but did not wait to attend the colloquium.

The Speaker of the House of Representatives, Rt. Hon. Dimeji Bankole, former military president, Gen. Ibrahim Babangida, ex-Vice-President Atiku Abubakar, Kwara State Governor Bukola Saraki, and ex-Chairman of the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) , Mallam Nuhu Ribadu have condemned the attack.

In a statement issued on behalf of Bankole by his Chief Press Secretary, Idowu Bakare, he described the blasts as "wicked and unfortunate action," and urged security agencies to fish out the culprits.

Babangida, who spoke through his Director, Media and Communications, Prince Kassim Afegbua, asked Nigerians to avoid actions capable of drawing the country backward.

The statement said: "At this moment of our national history when we have come a long way despite all our initial tribulations, differences and perspectives, issues such as armed robbery, kidnapping, and the latest, car bombing appear very frightening to us as a nation.

Babangida said: "The Niger-Delta militants should embrace the beauty of the amnesty programme as a platform to further the collective aspiration of the Niger-Delta people in order to find solutions to the peculiar problems of the region."

Atiku, who admitted that his heart bled over the incident, urged the Federal Government to carry out a thorough investigation. "My heart bled when I heard the reports of the bombing incident on Friday in Abuja. The serenity of Abuja has been violated irretrievably. The multiple bombing incidents were unprecedented in the 30-year history of the new federal capital city and called for vigilance on the part of security agencies to avert a future occurrence," said Atiku.

On his part, Saraki expressed shock and condemned the bombings, describing them as senseless.

In a statement by the Director, Media and Publicity of Abubakar Bukola Saraki Campaign Organization, Garba Deen Muhammad, the governor said: "On a day when all Nigerians and our well-wishers across the world were celebrating 50 years of freedom, words cannot express my horror at the senseless deaths that occurred in Abuja; the taking of innocent lives for no just cause.

"My thoughts, prayers and condolences go out to the families of those who have tragically had their lives cut short as well as to those that were wounded."

In a statement he personally signed, Ribadu said: "I am gravely saddened by the gross security lapse today in Abuja, where a number of compatriots were killed and wounded in two bomb blasts on a day we were observing our nation’s golden jubilee.

"I empathize with the families of the departed and pray for the repose of the souls of our lost compatriots.

"Coming few days after the shameful kidnapping of 15 school kids, these events draw attention to the desperate security situation in our country today.

A former National Chairman of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), Chief Solomon Lar also condemned the bomb blasts, urging President Jonathan not to be intimidated by the act of terrorism. Lar, who spoke yesterday in Abuja at a press briefing inside his Maitama residence, said those responsible for the acts should be investigated, prosecuted and punished.

Aare Musulumi of Yoruba land, Alhaji Abdulazeez Arisekola Alao described the explosions as inhuman and condemnable.

Also, in separate statements, both the Nigerian Bar Association (NBA) and the Afenifere Renewal Group (ARG) expressed sadness over the explosions, saying they were unfortunate.

According to the statement by NBA President, Mr Joseph Daudu (SAN): "NBA views as tragic and lamentable the fact that the explosion occurred at a time when the world’s attention was beamed on Nigeria… This unfortunate incident is yet another sad event in the socio-political chronicles of this country which portends greater challenges in the times ahead."

In a statement signed by the National Chairman, Afenifere Renewal Group (ARG) Hon. Olawale Oshun, he expressed worry that the incident was capable of disrupting the electoral process. Oshun said: "If there are Nigerians who wish to continue with voters manipulation as had occurred in 2003 and 2007 and/or who wish to cause distractions to the electoral transition process so as to continue to perpetuate the misrule in Nigeria, then we say it may be time that we started talking to one another as to whether we wish to remain as one single country or wish to renegotiate our existence and the terms of co-existing in this country."


http://thenationonlineng.net/web3/news/15080.html
PoliticsRe: Goodluck Jonathan Says Mend Is Not Responsible For Abuja Attacks. by chyz(m): 6:44pm On Oct 02, 2010
His message should have been subliminal. He's a politician he should know this. My conception is that he wanted to let the politians involved know that he was on their trail;however, this wasn't a smart way in doing it.I guess thats why he keeps quiet most of the times. You never know how ignorant a person is until they open their mouth.
PoliticsRe: King Wasiu Ayinde Arabambi For Senator by chyz(m): 11:33am On Oct 02, 2010
I blame Arnold and Wyclef grin grin
PoliticsRe: King Wasiu Ayinde Arabambi For Senator by chyz(m): 11:19am On Oct 02, 2010
The dumbest move that retard could ever make.Loser.Fuji music?LOL. i guess next in line is Ayuba. grin grin
PoliticsRe: Henry Okah Shocked - Nigerian Officials Knew Of Plan To Bomb Abuja by chyz(m): 11:05pm On Oct 01, 2010
Beaf:
Now for the serious questions. Was this really MEND or was it, as Okah claims, rotten hands in the government?
A few things trouble the mind, such as;

[list]
[li]How were the miscreants able to smuggle bombs so close to a tightly secure area in which the President was speaking?[/li]
[li]Why was the area not evacuated even though warning was given?[/li]
[li]There have been threats of untold mayhem from politicians, was this a manifestation of such a threat?[/li]
[/list]
all of the occurrences within such a short period of time are too coincidental. Definitely politicians are the once responsible. Also, isn't the 2-week ultimatum up that was given by that half-dead northern dude?
CultureRe: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by chyz(m): 9:53pm On Oct 01, 2010
ChinenyeN:
This isn't a "delta issue". This topic has little to nothing to do with regions. It's a general social topic of identity. It can occur anywhere.
Peace. cool
CultureRe: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by chyz(m): 9:46pm On Oct 01, 2010
ChinenyeN:
Do you have acute memory problems? How can you ask me such a question?
Exactly.why are you even discussing delta issues.should you be worrying about your aba people?
CultureRe: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by chyz(m): 9:42pm On Oct 01, 2010
ChinenyeN:
Please, it's glaringly obvious that I'm speaking for the situation and not anyone in particular. Here's why. . .

1. You stated that the debate is only continuing because things like 'linguistics' and 'culture' weren't or aren't properly addressed. You then went further to give a comparison with other groups (Yoruba, Itsekiri, etc.), asking why they don't have a similar story as Ika.

2. Your statements basically imply that the reason(s) for this on-going debate hinge on perceived characteristics (linguistic & cultural affinity).

3. Now, if we take your reasoning of this situation seriously (the hinging of the debate on linguistic & cultural affinity), then what we can expect is that the debate should actually have long since ended. Why? Because Ika's general linguistic and cultural affinity with other Igbo types is glaringly obvious. So obvious that the Ika themselves cannot deny it (and they haven't). So, according to you, this debate should not even be happening.

4. But what do we currently witness? The debate continues. Apparently, the issue of linguistic or cultural affinity hasn't brought anything to a close. There are still those who are arguing their Igboness.

5. Why? The issue was never about linguistic or cultural affinity, in the first place. It was about perceived identity. Perceived identity is the only thing that can effectively interfere with all of that, because it isn't based on any of that, to begin with.

6. So, your implication is wrong, because this debate still goes on, and if you insist on continuing to take the rout of linguistics and culture, without addressing the real issue, which is identity, this debate will keep going on, because identity is not entirely concerned with linguistics or culture. It is largely an independent entity of its own.
Are you from delta state?
CultureRe: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by chyz(m): 9:33pm On Oct 01, 2010
agbotaen:
ON NAMES NO ONE IS TWISTING ANY ONES NAME , IKAS HAVE BOTH BINI AND IGBO NAMES AND THE BINI NAMES IS OLDER IN IKA LAND THAN THE IGBO ONES, THE BINI IS USUALLY OUR FAMILY NAMES LIKE NDUKA OBAIGBENA .
NDUKA IRABOR .
IRABOR AND OBAIGBENA ARE THE FAMILY NAMES.
I wonder what makes some of Ika so easily to accept any thing that deals with history that is not Igbo.when it comes to igbo it always has to be the less of. How is the Bini names older when you speak igbo? LOL. My last name is also a mixure of Bini and Igbo. And Bini is not usually the family name so stop lying. You name a couple bini names to prove what? what happened the the many Igbo names? I guess those dont matter right? I bet your last name is Igbo too, infact i have no doubt of that.
CultureRe: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by chyz(m): 9:25pm On Oct 01, 2010
agbotaen:
LETS LOOK AT ITSEKIRI TRIBE IN DELTA STATE,- THEY ARE A PEOPLE THAT CLAIM,TO BE FOUNDED BY BINI AND YORUBA MIGRANTS AND IT IS EVIDENT IN THEIR CULTURE WHICH IS SOMETIMES A MIX OF YORUBA AND BINI CULTURES .,BUT TODAY THEY HAVE DEVELOPED CHARACTERISTICS THAT MAKES THEM DIFFERENT FROM YORUBA AND BINI , THEY ARE ITSEKIRIS , EVEN THOUGH THEIR LANGUAGE IS HEAVILY INFLUENCED BY OLD YORUBA WITH MANY BINI WORDS .HISTORY OF ITSEKIRIS TELL US THAT IGINUWA THE SON OF OBA OLUA OF BENIN , MIGRATED TO ODE-ITSEKIRI AFTER COMMITTING SOME OFFENCES IN BENIN , SO HE WAS SENT AWAY , AND HE CAME WITH MANY SLAVES, SERVANT AND WIVES AND WARRIORS,SO HE MET SOME IJEBU PEOPLE AT THE WATER SIDE WHO MIGRATED THERE YEARS AGO, AND TOGETHER THEY INTER MIXED AND THE ITSEKIRI TRIBE WAS FOUNDED AND IGINUWA A PRINCE FROM BENIN BECAME FIRST OLU OF ITSEKIRIS .SO WHAT IS DIFFERENT IN IKA CLAIMS , TO BEING A MIXED GROUP OF PEOPLE FIRST BINIS, THEN IGBOS AND OTHERS .
EVEN UHROBO AND ISOKOS , SAY SOME OF THEIR TOWNS WERE FOUNDED BY IGBOS,OTHERS BY BINI AND OTHER PEOPLE .AND IJAWS. SO WHY ARE IKAS DIFFERENT ? .
I AM FROM DELTA AND THERE IS HARDLY ANY COMMUNITY IN DELTA THAT I CANNOT GIVE YOU THEIR BRIEF HISTORY .
As far as your history about itsekiri it seems like a fraud of the Yoruba history of Oduduwa. Infact it is the same story but with different names. The Itsekiri trace their ancestry to the Ife kingdom which is yoruba land.I dont know who told you that story you typed. Oba "Olua" is definitely false. Its sounds like a fabrication of "Oluwa" in yoruba so its not adding up. Go read about Oduduwa and learn how the story that you posted about it is fabricated.The Itsekiri came under Bini rule just like the urhobo,Ijaw, Igbo. But can you please answer my previous question so that we all can get more clearification of the Ika issue?
CultureRe: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by chyz(m): 9:14pm On Oct 01, 2010
ChinenyeN:
No, not necessarily. That won't bring anything to a close, because this issue is not so much about linguistics or culture, but identity.
Speak for yourself.People gain closure by knowledge and research if need be.you can only speak for yourself.

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