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BusinessRe: Conoil Grows Profit By 176% To N2.3bn by clefstone(m): 6:52am On Sep 09, 2016
Apc must be involved in this company
IslamRe: The Reason Why Muslims Marry Under Age by Alhaji... by clefstone(m): 9:44am On Sep 06, 2016
parisbookaddict:
andersonbaba here is your answer
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Mary, the mother of Jesus was not 12 or a young girl when she got married.
Though the bible didn’t see it necessary to state an age, it is clear she was a mature woman.. here are the evidence.

Firstly, when she perceived that she has become pregnant, she went to visit her cousin, Elizabeth ,not aunt, not mother, her cousin. Now, being cousins means that though there can be some age gap between them, but they are contemporaries and friends(luke1:39-40). And Elizabeth herself has well aged and has even long entered
menopause. Hence, mary couldn't be a teenager, not to talk of 12.

Secondly, it was also written that on getting pregnant,she relocated from her house to Elizabeth's where she stayed with her for 3months before going back to her own house(see luke1:56). I don't think a 12year old or even a teenager will be having her own house at that time and even now.

Thirdly, her ability to independently move from her city to another for 3months clearly shows that we are dealing with a mature woman, not a teen or even less.

Fourthly, she was addressed throughout by both the angel and her cousin as a woman(see luke1:28,42)

Fifth, read her songs of exaltation from Luke1:46-55. It clearly shows the intelligence of a full grown woman who is knowledgeable in her ancestral history as she is of spiritual things.

As for Joseph, though no mention was ever made anywhere in the bible of his age, the bible describes him as a just man which modern scholars will refer to as a perfect gentleman.

Also, 12years after Jesus was born, his parents were still going to Jerusalem for their annual thanksgiving and this was a journey of days by road. That would have put Joseph's age at 111 if he married her at 99.

let me also add that when 12yr old Jesus went missing, Mary and Joseph turned the whole Jerusalem upside down searching for him until they found him in the temple.

If 12yr old was considered adult then, his parents wouldn't have worried because as an "adult he could fend for himself" But no, Mary and Joseph went searching for him till she found him, why? a 12yr old child is considered as a kid as it was in 2000 years ago and today... unlike Mohammed who sees a 6 year old child fit for marriage and 9 year old fit for sex..

All this evidence should tell you clearly that Mary wasn't 12yrs old at the time she was engaged to Joseph.

I want to add that the bible makes it clear u marry a woman and not a
child.. this is not even debatable. .

1 Corinthians 7:2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality,
each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.

1 Corinthians 7:1-40 ESV
Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife
does. Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. ...

Leviticus 21:7 ESV
They shall not marry a prostitute or a woman who has been defiled,
neither shall they marry a woman divorced from her husband, for the
priest is holy to his God. notice the use of the word woman and not girl or female..

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cc
WORDWORLD aka al taqiyya jihadist
Notruthatall
Deicide

muslims keep citing one silly site of unverified origin, claiming that mary was 12years in order to justify or draw comparison to mohammed who had sex with baby aisha at 9 years. the truth is that mary was a woman.
one of your best rebuttals yet
Christianity EtcRe: Non-Tithers Board: Church Publishes The Names Of Members Who Don't Pay Tithes by clefstone(m): 12:20pm On Sep 04, 2016
So wrong. Btw, do pastors pay tithe, if yes, who collects them?
EducationRe: Ethno-religious Cleansing Of Federal University Dutsinma, Katsina State by clefstone(m): 12:21pm On Sep 03, 2016
We hv a bigot as president so we understand
PoliticsRe: How 36 States Shared N156.2bn In Two Months- The Vanguard by clefstone(m): 8:34am On Sep 03, 2016
GoldenJAT:
what has dollar got 2 do with our currency?is it dollar we are using in nigeria?how u de even reason?
we have to use a stable currency to understand the true value and compare with previous ones to help us understand if we r progressing, regressing or static. The naira is unstable right now, constantly losing it's value so 200bn naira today is like 100bn naira last year implying that those figures mentioned can be decietful to gullible ones, the ones they call zombie here
PoliticsRe: Budget Padding: The Scandal That Refuses To Go Away- Daily Trust by clefstone(m): 8:29am On Sep 03, 2016
Call me when someone is convicted
PoliticsRe: Sheriff’s Faction Moves To Displace Ize-Iyamu In Edo Guber by clefstone(m): 8:13am On Sep 03, 2016
This sherrif guy smells of a planted apc agent
PoliticsRe: How 36 States Shared N156.2bn In Two Months- The Vanguard by clefstone(m): 8:07am On Sep 03, 2016
Convert that figure to dollars based on 425 naira to a dollar make we know d real value of that moni
PoliticsRe: Photos From Aisha Buhari's #GetInvolved Dinner by clefstone(m): 8:04am On Sep 03, 2016
See Fayose babe o
PoliticsRe: "Direct Your Anger To The Right Quaters"- Garba Shehu Tells Nigerians by clefstone(m): 8:03am On Sep 03, 2016
sheyguy:
100% right. Direct your anger towards a system that takes excess petrodollar and uses it to subsidize the Dollar-Naira exchange rate. What we have today is that subsidy becoming unsustainable due to petrodollar disappearance. I blame it on successive govt, CBN governors, state governors and lawmakers who maintained that evil subsidy. Let the Naira fall to its true value, it will encourage production as exported goods will command higher Naira equivalent.
but the then ACN and a certain Gen Buhari resisted the past govt's effort to remove subsidy
PoliticsRe: Crude Export To Increase By 380,000b/d In Days by clefstone(m): 7:48am On Sep 03, 2016
Maybe our geriatric president will eventually reverse his decision to end pipeline protection contract to ex-militant just as he has adopted the great GEJ's agricultural program. If u don't know what to write in an exam the next best thing to do is copy #copycatbuhari
CrimeRe: Fourteen Oil Workers Kidnapped In Rivers- The Vanguard by clefstone(m): 7:45am On Sep 03, 2016
Chibok workers. Very soon we will start hearing bring back our workers #BBOW
BusinessRe: When Naira Still Had Value! Just Imagine.. by clefstone(m): 4:37pm On Sep 02, 2016
1978, this was before Buhari's first coming. No wonder
RomanceRe: You Can't Get A Woman If You Have These Qualities by clefstone(m): 4:27pm On Sep 02, 2016
But people with those qualities still dey marry last last na undecided. The topic should have been, 'guys you cannot have multiple gfs if u have these qualities'
PoliticsRe: I Am Impressed By Your Simplicity, Buhari Tells Zuckerberg by clefstone(m): 4:20pm On Sep 02, 2016
Resign Bubu, resign
PoliticsRe: Why Nigeria Is Backward: Mark Zuckerberg Vs Nigeria's ICT Minister - Pix by clefstone(m): 4:18pm On Sep 02, 2016
Reno Omokri u r spot on. By d way, Omokri means goat in Urhobo but u get sense pass goat sha
PoliticsRe: Recovered Loot Inadequate To Revive Economy- FG by clefstone(m): 4:05pm On Sep 02, 2016
mrvitalis:
Ok
I don't know how to explain to Nigerian youths again.. . Theses government so far has being truthful and In most cases are quoted out of context by the Nigerian media just to sale and get traffic..

Over 9 billion dollars have been recovered.. but the one we can access is 78bn and 3 Million dollars.. The rest still have cases in court.. .. . What is deficult about this statement to understand??

Buhari keep doing ur best... If there is a God.. Then only him will judge u.. but if there is non.. History will remember your works
shut up Mr. How can u say money that is disputed in court is recovered money
PoliticsRe: Recovered Loot Inadequate To Revive Economy- FG by clefstone(m): 4:01pm On Sep 02, 2016
After all the trillions u guys mouthed? Oya you better produce those money or we assume somebori has pocketed them
PoliticsRe: What A Nairalander Wrote About Blame Game Before 2015 Elections by clefstone(m): 11:36am On Sep 02, 2016
sammhi:
see below what a Nairalnder wrote about how the new incoming govt will blame GEJ when they fail to perform:

[ Politics / Re: Ex-militants Make U-turn, Beg Nigerians To Vote For Jonathan by IbileIfe: 12:19pm On Feb 25, 2015

sammhi:
NOT to bore you, If APC WINS,....... Noting much will change I can bet that but they will blame it all on GEJ having destroyed the country

so in nutshell , CHANGE means to return power to the northern ruling class..no more no less...
]
you were wrong in a way cos things have indeed changed, albeit negatively
PoliticsRe: Kemi Adeosun Denies Making "Recession Comments" But Check This Video by clefstone(m): 11:27am On Sep 02, 2016
'Recession is a word'. Lie lie woman infected by a lie lie govt headed by a lie lie head of states from a lie lie party
PoliticsRe: If You Had The Chance, Will You Vote For Buhari Again? by clefstone(m): 11:17am On Sep 02, 2016
Didn't vote the dullard before so I guess the question is not for pple like me
EducationRe: BREAKING: Resumption Date For Pry, Sec Schools Changed by clefstone(m): 6:55am On Sep 02, 2016
because of sallah, abi?
BusinessRe: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by clefstone(m):
The last people to put money into the scheme will eventually be the ones to pay all the 30 percent interest the current subscribers are enjoying. Those last guys will lose all their money.
Christianity EtcRe: Paul Enenche's Sister Slaps Church Member For Crying During Sammoses Burial by clefstone(m): 11:44am On Sep 01, 2016
Anointed slap
Science/TechnologyRe: Nickel Discovery In Nigeria: What, Where & Why Nickel Is Used by clefstone(m): 1:36pm On Aug 30, 2016
Who nickel epp
CareerRe: Have Anybody Receive Salary Yet..federal Workers Only by clefstone(m): 7:07am On Aug 29, 2016
Op ur english bad sha
Christianity EtcRe: Pastors Reading From Ipad And Tablet Instead Of Holy Book. Right Or Wrong ? by clefstone(m): 7:29am On Aug 28, 2016
If Jesus came in the 21st century, the scriptures would most likely have been written in soft copies for easy dissemination. It's the spread of the word that matters not the platform used
SportsRe: Coach Siasia Quits Over "A Disrespectful System" by clefstone(m): 7:27pm On Aug 27, 2016
We should just go back to our precolonial way of ruling ourselves where our Obas, Igwes and Emirs were our rulers. This democracy and oyibo way of govt doesn't suit is at all. It's the reason why we cannot get the simplest thing right. Imagine common sport we cannot manage. We hv to create a system that works for us otherwise Nigeria will not move an inch forward
CelebritiesRe: Amin Moussalli Who Sacked Freeze As CoolFM OAP & Why (photos) by clefstone(m): 5:47pm On Aug 27, 2016
This one don turn celeb too?
EducationRe: New Stadium At The Delta State Polytechnic Ozoro (Photo) by clefstone(m): 10:32am On Aug 27, 2016
erico2k2:
Asaba is way off that grid.is in Ozoro that's Isoko .along the east West rd??
I saw it on the way to Asaba from , which means I passed thru Ozoro and Ozorod poly is along the road. The stadium is so big that u can c it from the express road
EducationRe: New Stadium At The Delta State Polytechnic Ozoro (Photo) by clefstone(m): 7:06am On Aug 27, 2016
Saw the stadium last time I went to Asaba, dont think its meant for the school's ise only cos its really big
SportsRe: Kano Pillars Signs Joseph Yobo by clefstone(m): 7:00pm On Aug 24, 2016
Yobo never reach 50years?

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