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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester United Vs West Brom (2 - 0) On 29th December 2012 by cleric(m): 5:47pm On Dec 29, 2012
RVP! Goal!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester United Vs West Brom (2 - 0) On 29th December 2012 by cleric(m): 5:28pm On Dec 29, 2012
See as west brom players dey fear as the stadium went agog on RVP's entrance.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester United Vs West Brom (2 - 0) On 29th December 2012 by cleric(m): 5:26pm On Dec 29, 2012
RVP ! grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Oyedepo: The Church Last Paid Me In 1987 by cleric(m): 11:43am On Dec 09, 2012
keside: pls OP, I need to see the source of this information. cos I knw pple that contributed towards the building of that university at every Sunday service back in '02-'03. is it that the donations of the congregation is not even appreciated?
Please help me ask o ...I heard people say they contributed and now the Bishop is saying otherwise.
Christianity EtcRe: Oyedepo: The Church Last Paid Me In 1987 by cleric(m): 6:56am On Dec 09, 2012
X-factoria:
So the missionaries that brought free education and health services to as a tool for evangelism are also fools? Those that brought the gospel to us touched our lives and left us better than they met us. They didn't just tell us that Jesus loves us, they showed it by choosing to suffer our afflictions (the mosquito bites etc) and ignoring the comfort of their home country, gave us free education and health paid for by tithes and offerings from their parent churches in the West. That is christianity as defined by Acts of Apostles Chapter 4. There is no greater evangelism than actioning the love of christ to the world. Jesus was all about charity, so why should it be a problem for "men of God",the custodian of His mantle today to just be like christ?

If Oyedepo fasted on his knees, what were his prayers? To gain the whole world so he can glorify mammon with his wealth? So the fact that he was called means he would always be right? Saul, King of Israel was annointed, yet he derailed and the same God that annointed him over Israel deserted him. Oyedepo is not an angel, he is a human being.

Oyedepo is not a true christian by Bible standard. That much is clear and all those following him blindly should go and read Revelations 2 and 3 about the 7 churches which is symbolic of the last day churches. Many profess christ but have abandoned the essence of their calling and have been carried away by their worldly desire for wealth, personal glory etc.
X-factoria:
Some of you don't get it. What business does he have with building a business empire when God called him to feed the sheep? Please take clues from Jesus' reminders to his disciples in John chapter 21. When Jesus was crucified, his disciples mourned for a few days and went back to fishing. After resurrection, Jesus appeared to them by the sea and reminded them of their callings. He repeated three times "Simon, son of jonas, loveth thou me......feed my sheep".

You cannot abandon the gospel for business and still lay claim to doing the work of God. Check Matthew 6 vs 19-24. You cannot serve God and mammon. You have to leave one for the other. The work of a priest is a difficult one. It is a calling to a life of denial and service to the Kingdom of God. You have no business laying treasures here on earth.

I'm saying that Oyedepo has abandoned his calling (if he ever had one). And I'm yet to see anyone prove otherwise citing the Bible.
These are two of the deepest comments I have seen here. But let us not forget what Apostle Paul said in Phil 1:18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.
X-factoria:
Why can't you just make your point without being insultive? And thats coming from somebody "versed in the spirit". How old are you by the way?

You claim to be versed in the spirit, right? I'm alarmed that you didn't disprove any of the points I made from the Bible. You only showed that it bites you hard since its the truth. Anyway, support Paul's tent making business with references from the Bible, please. I would only argue from the Bible. I only know Paul was a trained law attorney.

I'm not a catholic. I'm a pentecostal christian who reads my Bible thoroughly. Nobody can bamboozle me with arrant doctrines.
X factorial, I must comment here that Paul actually worked and will back it up with scriptures but must emphasise here that he didn't live an extravagant life. Please pardon the rudeness of that poster.
1. 1 Cor. 9:6 Paul asks, “Are Barnabas and I the only ones who cannot refrain from working for a living?” This suggests strongly that he worked on the first journey, the only time the two men traveled together. They must have supported themselves as they went through Cyprus and Galatia, and continued to do so after they formed separate teams.
2. And because he was of the same craft, he abode with them, and wrought: for by their occupation they were tentmakers. (Acts 18:3 KJV).

If you read the whole of that 1 cor 9. You will see that he worked but never lived an extravagant life.
I hope I was able to shed some light into this.
God bless you.
RomanceRe: When Looking For A Potential Life Partner,what Are Your Top 3 Criteria by cleric(m): 5:34am On Dec 08, 2012
sanb: Lol...and what would you do if you find someone who is not 10 years younger but has all the qualities you require in a spouse?....
Well, so long as she can take me to heaven, i will marry her.
AutosRe: hi by cleric(op):
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Christianity EtcRe: Mountain Of Fire And Miracles 2012 Anointing Service by cleric(m): 12:09pm On Dec 01, 2012
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AutosRe: hi by cleric(op): 12:06pm On Dec 01, 2012
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Christianity EtcRe: Mountain Of Fire And Miracles 2012 Anointing Service by cleric(m): 12:04pm On Dec 01, 2012
Goshen360: Why are you people so low in comprehension of the bible even when it had been translated into English Even the context of the scripture you quoted DID NOT SAY IT IS THE OIL THAT HEALS, IT SAYS THIS,

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall deliver the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he has committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. - James 5:14-15

It is NOT the oil that heals or saves the sick even though the NT says anoint such sick with oil, it is the "prayer of faith". Again, keep accumulating anointing oil, it is not my business. I weary of all this your arguments. I'm not against the use of oil BUT the abuse of the use of oil.
I hope you have corrected Chris oyakhilome on m.a.s.t.u.r.b.a.t.i.o.n and his heresy that Christianity is not a covenant even though Jesus christ said "this is the blood of the new covenant which is shed for many for the remission of sins".
I don't understand the basis of ur argument concerning the annointing oil. Is it that those using it are not praying on it by faith? Because from what you were trying to lay emphasis on,you didn't deny that the use of annointing oil was recommended by the apostles but that those practising it are not praying on it by faith. So tell me brother what are they using when they pray :"that the Holy Spirit should incubate the oil/water/hankerchieves and dat as they use it on the sick, the sick shall be healed,the lame shall walk,the dead shall rise,etc." if that is not a prayer of faith. Please let me know what a prayer of faith is.
AutosRe: hi by cleric(op): 4:21pm On Nov 23, 2012
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Christianity EtcRe: Born Again Christians.pls Contribute by cleric(m): 12:32pm On Nov 21, 2012
Therefore speak to them, and say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Everyone of the house of Israel who sets up his idols in his heart, and puts before him what causes him to stumble into iniquity, and then comes to the prophet, I the Lord will answer him who comes, according to the multitude of his idols, (Ezekiel 14:4 NKJV)
The above verse simply tells us that God could show us things based on what we already have in mind. However, if u are praying to God without any one in mind, then all you have do is to wait. Most times when God says soon, it could be years.
RomanceRe: When Looking For A Potential Life Partner,what Are Your Top 3 Criteria by cleric(m): 11:55am On Nov 21, 2012
1.Deep Christian with virtues.
2. Beautiful
3. Age : about 10 yrs younger than me....I no want 'arugbo' wink but let God's will be done.
AutosRe: hi by cleric(op): 11:58am On Nov 20, 2012
Bump.
PoliticsRe: Niger's Governor Celebrates Birthday On A Private-Jet by cleric(m): 9:07am On Nov 15, 2012
modicum: Nigerians are setting new records. Over 65 private jets in Nigeria, but less than 20 commercial aircraft out of which less than 15 are operational to carry 160million Nigerians. You better start making arrangements for your pastor to get one because soon any pastor that does not have one will not be invited to speak where pastors are speaking as the genuineness of his calling will be in doubt because those who are genuinely called must prove it with a jet
These are all ridiculous. angry
Foreign AffairsRe: Secession Bid Of Texas And Obama's War Options! by cleric(m): 5:56am On Nov 14, 2012
Mgbadike80: ^^ thanks for explaining. Nice to know that american judicial system can equally be hijacked into perpetual adjoinments.
grin grin Perpetual adjournments are every where and is not peculiar to only Nigeria.
Christianity EtcRe: What Has Been Your Unique Experience With Long Fasting? by cleric(m): 5:42am On Nov 14, 2012
The dry fast (without water and food) reminds me to be holy cos hell fire will be worse. Just finished a 7 days dry but my brethren, it ain't funny. God manifested HIS power sha (which is the crux of the whole exercise).
I wonder how people like pastor Adeboye go without food and water for 40 days every year. huh
I must get to that level. angry.
I must have a private jet too. grin I believe that is enough motivation. grin

Now jokes aside, fasting is a very good spiritual exercise but it is advisable you do it under guidance. It also helps in body system purification. S medically and spiritually, it is very good.
AutosRe: hi by cleric(op):
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Jobs/VacanciesRe: Is It Proper To Reduce Your Age To Get a Job? by cleric(m): 12:08pm On Nov 13, 2012
Pidivine: It has become a norm for job seekers to reduce their age(s) to secure jobs no thanks to employers of labour. Please do you think it is proper either as a christian or moslem?.
Not for true children of GOD. Do not sow a seed that will be difficult to annihilate.GOD bless you.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Adeboye Maybe A Member Of Nairaland. by cleric(m): 5:18pm On Nov 09, 2012
Pastor Kun: How won't he be pro-tithing when he is a major beneficiary of titheshuh
pastorkun, if dem send u come meet me tell dem say u no meet me for house o°˚. grin grin
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FamilyRe: Conditions For Divorce In Christianity, and [Some Legal] Grounds for Annulment by cleric(m): 8:25am On Nov 09, 2012
otooro: [b]Summary of the whole matter: Based on Matthew 5, Matthew 19 and Genesis 2.

1. A good christian (or christianity) does not support divorce.
2. Any marriage instituted and committed to God can never experience divorce.
3. When challenges come in a marriage, there are biblical principles to tackle it so it won't resolve into a divorce.
4. It is good to forgive other than divorce your partner if he/she goes terribly wrong. Do not harden your heart.
5. If you must divorce due to infidelity, then you can't re-marry, hence it is adultery.
6. Do not marry a divorced person, when his/her 'ex-spouse' is still alive, hence it is adultery.
7. Any divorcee can re-marry when the partner is dead. It is not good to be alone.
8. Even when divorced, make sure you've forgiven your partner, and don't hesitate to continue your responsibility (e.g. children)
9. There's no 'perfect' marriage. Each party must work hard to make it work.
10.Do not have sex with anyone one you are not married to, whether you are divorced or not.[/b]

Here is my opinion:

The best time to avoid a potential divorce is when you are single.
If there's a threat to life in a marriage, please, run for safety, then seek counsel from men of God and divine intervention.
Beautiful....i couldn't have said it better. Let those who have ears, let them hear.
AutosRe: hi by cleric(op): 6:40am On Nov 09, 2012
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Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Adeboye Maybe A Member Of Nairaland. by cleric(m): 6:04pm On Nov 08, 2012
MacDaddy01: Lies. If adeboye was on Niaraland, he would have started an anti-tithing campaign.
Daddy G.O is pro-tithing and not anti tithing. He preaches tithe so do ur research well. wink
FamilyRe: Conditions For Divorce In Christianity, and [Some Legal] Grounds for Annulment by cleric(m): 5:29pm On Nov 08, 2012
I have heard a lot preaching and read a lot of books on this divorce issue. I am sorryto say but many men of God seem to miss it including kenneth Haggin (in his book - marriage,divorce and re-marriage).
As far as i am concerned, the bible allows me to divorce on condition of infidelity.
Some even say the adultery in matt 5:32 is not adultery but if ur wife claims to be a virgin and u find that she is not after marriage then u can divorce her. As far as I'm concerned, that is not what i understand by that scripture.




lawyer: What a load of tripe! Where is it written in the bible that they shouldn't remarry again if a woman is verbally abuses and they divorce? That's how you guys twist the bible to interprete it in your own daft ways and unsuspecting readers will be totally brainwashed due to your views? So it's permissible for a man to beat his wife senselessly for years and to divorce but not marry another person? Until they reconcile? People should be weary of you!
 Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth
adultery. Luke 16:18

Matthew 5: 32; But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for intimate immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.!


Can you please interprete the meaning of except in the above quoted passage? You are a lawyer so i await your analysis of that grammer. If i may ask, are u a christian? If so, what church do you attend?
Foreign AffairsRe: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by cleric(m): 8:15am On Nov 08, 2012
obadiah777: GOD IS AGAINST THE LAND OF ISRAEL
Probably.
Foreign AffairsRe: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by cleric(m): 6:52am On Nov 08, 2012
Ibrahim mr fish: U people are very funny.When Isreal attack Iraq and Syrian nuclear facilities,Isreal didn't give any worning to them.D fact dat,Isreal keep singing d soung of attacking Iran for years now,shows dat Isreal is afraid.They Know what Hizbula did to them in 2006 war.And Hizbula is just Iranian tool.Now if common group like Hizbula can win,a war with Isreal.Imagine what Iran will do to them.D fact on d ground is,Isreal can never attack Iran,without d big brother.D u.s.a.And stop making mistake and comparing Persian with d Arabs.There is a difference between those two.
Hisbula won israel in 2006? huh Is dat wat u were taught in your mosques? Please my friends go and read your history books and see how the whole world was begging israel to please stop. The fact is this, Ismael will forever be under Isaac. Take it or return it.
Foreign AffairsRe: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by cleric(m): 1:00am On Nov 08, 2012
tpapi: israel dey form like say him fit defeat iran unilaterally,if only US fit just dey neutral,make iran make life tire israel small
Have you done ur research properly? If you've read Israel's feat,u won't write what you wrote. Take a 'Q' from what they did to Libya (unilaterally) yet the so called Arab league could do jack. You know why? Israel fought a militarily bigger arab coalition and won on all fronts(the 6 day war). So brother please.........
Foreign AffairsRe: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by cleric(m): 12:59am On Nov 08, 2012
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AutosRe: hi by cleric(op): 12:27pm On Nov 07, 2012
Available.
HealthRe: My 'Pikin Syrup' Maker Is Dead by cleric(m): 11:32pm On Nov 06, 2012
Okay...RIP.
Christianity EtcRe: “I Am Sleeping With My Boss!” – KICC Bishop Bismark by cleric(m):
chiefo315: So powerful was his message, by the time this charismatic Zimbabwean son was through the 3000+ crowd was on its feet in riotous applause.
It is good for them to applaud but i would have preffered if they were wailing from conviction of their sins like charles G. Finney, John knox, the Wesley bros, John G. Lake and a host of others would have been used by the Holy Spirit.
Christianity EtcRe: Resilient Worshipers Return To Bombed Kaduna Church For Sunday Service by cleric(m):
I was a catholic till i saw the light so i do understand.
I don't want to go into too much details but the truth remains that what they are doing does not in anyway fit into the definition of matyr.
If they want to be matyrs, i know people who will sponsor their ticket to places where they will spill their blood for the gospel. You guys should call a spade a spade and not just hide it under some emotional religious sentiments.
As far as i can recall, boko haram has never bombed same place of worship twice.

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