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carefreewannabe: Keep up the good work, no progress without women like you. Happy Sunday sis!

pickabeau1: Yes u do....just because...but wat the heck..its only an opinion..

Which show is that...

coogar: yes....in almost every case.
i don't see how a woman would generally assume a guy wants her to have their baby because he wants sex. if he wants a baby, marriage would be his first step, no?

the woman may not want a baby at first too. Infact that's the default position. But then the baby went in. They are both at fault for not clearly stating their stands in the beginning. So now the baby is here what next?


he didn't just remember - read the OP's post again. he had stated "no babies" before the sex. he's not ready for a baby and the woman still presses ahead to have a child. whose fault is that?

if we follow strict logic,the guy can be excused. But I'm guessing whoever made the laws looks at the infant kids and decides that whatever the parents agreed to flies in the face of the emergency that is the delicate needy infant. If we are thinking of the kids here then it makes sense too. Even though it's unfair to the man who didn't agree to that.but it's not made to spite any of the parents just to take care of the child. But what I'll never root for is men paying for kids that are not theirs. It's very unfair



there are thousands of such cases on the internet.



so you can understand my grievances but you cannot understand pickaboo's grievance? at least, we are getting somewhere - you are admitting the system is unfair abroad but it's needed in africa.

yes close. I understand your grievance. I don't understand his. But then Not all of it is unfair abroad. There should be steps taken to ensure that the system abusers don't manipulate it out of spite. So that fairness is maintained and balanced




because they don't want to be miserable like most men abroad. if there's an outbreak of rabies abroad, would you not take preventive measures before it spreads to nigeria? google the male suicide statistics abroad & you will understand the suffering of men.

that could be a reason. But is it a case of 'instead of men to be miserable. Let women be'?
It can't be better that way. And they need not be afraid of such occurence. It's highly unlikely


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carefreewannabe: Don't mind them, some people will call the oppression of women an African thing and feminsim un-African forgetting that Americans and Europeans were very much like Africans A HUNDRED YEARS AGO.

pickabeau1: OK..
You do need it...

What you r saying is you identify by an ideology that u know little about but heck.. In going to do it anyway

Similar to someone who just wants to go to a party for no reason than just wanting to be in d part

Lol

OK..let's leave it at that

coogar: that is if they both agreed to have the baby from the outset. can a man apply for mortgage in his wife's name even when the wife isn't interested in it.....he still goes ahead with the application till it was approved...and then proceeded to use the court to force her to pay monthly payments?

here's why each case should be treated according to it's own merit. Did they explicitly have the 'I don't want a baby conversation' before sex? If yes,I'm on the side of the guy. But if they had sex and then dude remembers he doesn't want a child after the lady is already pregnant,then that's bullsh1t.



why can't you see the unfairness here?what about the unfairness to the child he only remembered he didn't want after it was concieved? Here no one cares for mother and father but the welfare of the child in question



that's why it's called estoppel - it cannot be fought!
there's more to this than met the eye. I'd like to know more about it. Hmm


but you can understand why men can't stand it, right?

I think I understand why men over there can't stand it. If it's continually used to cheat them,they are human and I understand. Maybe if I was there and think women are getting it fair already,I wouldn't be passionate about it.
But What I don't understand is why men here can't stand it. Is it the need to keep their women perpetually shackled?


i kid you not! watch this video.....

can't watch the video at the moment. Let me take your word for it.

pickabeau1: You don't know much about western laws yet carry a western ideology

On the bright side you are amenable to discourse unlike many
I agree with review

However I still put it to u u don't know much about this ideology u profess

ask damiso who studied it academically

coogar: it should be scrapped!
if women know there's no money to be made from child support, they will make saner choices. of course, we are not talking about deadbeat dads who married & divorced and ran out of the marriage. we are talking about unmarried folks and in the extreme cases of paternity fraud.

no. If two people made a baby. Married or unmarried,they should bear the consequences together.they were both adults and knew what they were getting into



appeal which ruling? feminism brought equitable doctrine of estoppel into the equation. that doctrine states the court may hold that because i acted like a parent and permitted the child to rely upon me even though i'm a "stranger" to the child, i have adopted the biological or "real" parent's duty.

in other words, if i befriend a babymama and I was playing a fatherly role throughout our relationship, i could be held to keep providing child support for the child since the little boy has been made to rely on me. a very brilliant law except that it doesn't get enforced when a woman befriends a babyfather.

which is why it can be reviewed if you guys are serious about it



feminism is about equality? of course it is.

believe what you wish. As far as I'm concerned,it is needed here more than ever.




fight for what?
whenever men gather to hold these meetings about the sufferings they are experiencing from their partners, feminists go there and disrupt the meetings.

now you're making up stories

pickabeau1: Hahahaa..
nay... You are the one being indulged with your unwillingness to confront the issues and keep your head in the sand

So now u see that society should be better off and not one gender.

Humanism...

coogar: it's a widespread practise all over the developed nations, it's not an isolated case. hundreds of thousands of non biological fathers are paying child support for children they did not sire - why do you think we are saying the scheme should be completely scrapped?

pickabeau1: Reasonable?..u make me laff

Find out how the racket was born and those who pushed this legislation through

You are missing the forest for the trees

That man is one of millions...

The judge is also working within the system

Who made the system.

Enlighten yourself

pickabeau1: Not you...

pickabeau1: Why u dey open eye.....

That's the consequences of praising unbridled irresponsibility

They have destroyed marriage

They have deified abortion

They have ruined men's financially

They stopped men from seeing their own child

Now u r saying its unfair?... Very rich from u

sharubutu: What is beautiful about a home where the husband or wife cheats? You're a bad Person. No wonder there's so much evil in the land; Boko Haram, armed robbery, kidnapping, rituals, corruption, etc. "Evil only prevail when good men chose to be quiet"

CityNG: I was in class with someone from the state of Washington who had a real horror story.

He met a girl in a club and they hit it off. He took her out a few times and met her kids. Being a good guy he helped her set up a birthday party for one of the kids.

They broke up a few months later, mind you the guy never lived with the woman.

She sued for child support and got it because the Judge felt that he acted as a father figure for the children - from just one birthday party and a 3 month relationship.

And the US is littered with stories like this with Fathers paying child support on children which DNA has proven are not theirs but the system doesn't care, they want the federal matching grant.

I try to never judge a person until I walked in their shoes so when I advise my friends never to date a single mother there's a reason behind it. It's not the mothers themselves but the protected financial class that the government gives them.

EnlightenedSoul: I'm honest with myself. I have to be.

You're the same?

EnlightenedSoul: Religions are interesting to me, though none have inspired my "faith" so far. I come from a Muslim family, but I don't practice.

I have agnostic leanings. What I lack is conviction.

Still figuring it out.

pickabeau1: You ?.. trying to twist?... that u confessed you dont read posts but just the title...

You agree I have a point but dont want to admit

Lets agree to admit we each have points...


PS that word is english... not linked to US or UK eh?

pickabeau1: You ?.. trying to twist?... that u confessed you dont read posts but just the title...

You agree I have a point but dont want to admit

Lets agree to admit we each have points...


PS that word is english... not linked to US or UK eh?

EnlightenedSoul: Interesting discussion. Following

pickabeau1: My friend cococandy.... cococandy.. i love debating with you but at times...

i will only respond to two things in ur post

Try and understand others' posts before u just respond.. understand the nuances tooo

Emasculate is correct grammar...and the quotes are the killer\



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crackhaus: I guess you trying to pass a message to someone else other than me with the second part of your post huh?

I hardly ever assume, which is why my first post was a question for clarity....still, this doesn't negate the fact that the OP has a war she wages with all things male and African.

pickabeau1: cococandy
admit wetin.. which bias.. abi no this OP?
Instead of writing posts exhorting women to exalt their man, this poster is writing posts on how to emasculate
Note the word is even written in quotes,,, basically even bringing into disrepute and negating the feelings of the man - that he should 'suck it up' like a real man right?
Destroyers
Read up on the proverbs woman who uses her words to build up her man and home

pickabeau1: I had to laugh at the bolded... lets not make this a pro life vs pro choice
\you dont need to explain the merits of each stance to me
If u have been following the debate, i stated it was contradictory a self professing feminist equated abortion to murder
You cant murder a lifeless being

It just re affirms what i have always said.. our web feminists dont have a clue of the ideology they profess

However I agree with u on the stigma especially in lower income areas

pickabeau1: Sentiments
According to prochoicers and their scientists who have spoken and made it a fact
You need to learn more about this...

http://www.prochoiceactionnetwork-canada.org/abortioninfo/misconce.shtml

crackhaus: Well she's not entirely known to paint men in good light.

pickabeau1: is a woman atached to blood clots..... nah
Prochoicers call it blood clots..
No sentiment there

finis