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Empiree:
Sorry I got this this notification late but I believe my sister has done justice to this thread to the best of her ability. If there is any contribution from my part in the future I wont hesitate.

Thanks for this thread @cococandy

Alennsar:
The one i know of is Islamophobia. Don't know if that's correct.
But it should not be a surprise to the Muslims because the Prophet (peace and blessing be upon him) has told us that a time will come when Islam will become a strange religion and that is one of the signs of the end time.

Xixtie:
I am unsure of my faith actually.
That's why I have got to follow this thread.
Nothing is clear anymore.
I hope some knowledgeable persons proffer good and reasonable answers to your questions.
I would be helped by that too.
Good luck.

Xixtie:
Is Coco now unsure of her faith ni?
#ReadingAndFollowing.

pocohantas:
Stay there and be doing mumu love. Men always looking for fixers like you.

After moving upandan like evil spirits in their youth, when they are old and broke- they will now come back to that virtuous woman. Same thing you see in marriages. Womanize in youth, come back to their wives with Nigerian used penis and damaged internal organs. Your work will now be to cook vegetable soup without pepper and spices. You will also learn to turn wheat and pound unripe plantain for him.

Ndi virtuous women. I don’t blame him, na you I blame. 8 fcking years... Pfftttt!!

KingsDisease:
So I should give her the phone back?

KingsDisease:
Hmmm...you mean I should watch her call boys and chat strangers while my younger sister sees it and learns....C'mon, I know you women won't even condone such

Explorers:
Thank you o, only fried egg

Explorers:
Thanks bro. After morning service madam is tired, so i decided to help toast.

Hmmmmm....If you see bashing wey i receive for this.

Se na like this your mate dey toast, you will eat your burnt sacrifice alone

Ive been eating it alone since morning.

bukatyne:
It is easier for me to answer all mentions in a post that type similar thoughts four times. [b][/b]

Misogyny is defined as dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women

I am yet to see where the OP expressed a case of dislike, comtempt or ingrained prejudice against women in his OP. He said Government should regulate jobs women get. The next question is why? So that:
1. Men would get better jobs so they can effectively cater for the home financially;
2. Women would have more time for housekeeping which is their forte.

What in the above reasoning expresses misogyny?

Or is this is case of everything looking like a nail because all we have is a hammer?

Or is the notion that women are the housekeepers in a marriage prejudiced?

EVERY system has its merits and demerits. EVERY! With that in mind, humans 'ideally' pick whatever system poses the least demerits (due to the information they have or life experiences).

[b]
1. If you agree that traditionally, a man wins the bread while the woman keeps the house, what model do you propose to tackle the OP's observations?
2. You obviously did not understand the competition I referred it. You can re-read that portion of my post;
3. Your point 7 is a demerit of the OP's proposal which I expected posters to bring out in an objective manner;
4. In a marriage setting, women are naturally equipped to keep the home which is different from doing chores. To break down, home keeping is strategy while chores is the tactics. Men do chores; women do chores and keep the home.
4. Your point 10 is back to my introduction; where did the OP's post state selfishness/disdain/envy for women?

[b]
Government enforced jobs (which would be better executed at university stage {You can't read certain courses} although sounds like a nightmare in a capitalist economy) means some men are also not getting the jobs they want. I heard of a teacher who was so passionate about teaching that he did not get married. When he died, his students buried him in an elaborate ceremony. Some fathers ensured their sons went to that school so they could be mentored by 'Mr. X' In a society where Govt assigns jobs per gender, Mr. X would have missed out on his calling. It is not always about women in an individualistic manner.

[b]
Follow the discussion. In traditional setting, If a man is to fend for the family, then it is implied that the wife (if earning) would use the money for personal needs. Hence the saying 'His money is our/my money and my money is my money.'

[b]
I struggle to understand the direction of your post. This is not about 'my generation'. I guess it is a 'gift' these days to discuss a topic objectively, acknowledging the merits and demerits and chose what works for you at each stage of your life..

I remember in Primary School when we had to debate 'Lawyers are better than doctors' or 'Mothers are more important than fathers'. Both parties (for and against) managed to marshall their points with the concluding (Hope I was able to convince and not confuse you that bla bla bla).

I hope that skill is not lost and all parties (for and against) can bring their points objectively to the table.

pcguru1:
If that's your outlook on life, then you going to need to work very hard and stop fantasizing and re-orientate yourself. Companies need smart people, your sex has nothing to do with it, if a company could train a monkey to do your job and can pay the monkey less, oga you dey out of job.

Hathor5:
Women and men do not only work to survive/make money so women's motivation to work can't be solely the result of men's reluctance to provide, which I don't even think is a problem in the Nigerian context because my impression is that most men are eager to provide. Not having enough opportunities to do so is not the result of them being lazy or reluctant to provide but the result of poor leadership.

Women (and men) are strongly motivated by the need for competence which is the desire to reach high levels of competence in different fields. In Maslow's pyramid of needs there is the need called self-actualization, which means achieving one's full potential. Confining women to the kitchen, which OP calls for when he asks for government regulations, is the destruction of the various talents women have apart from home running skills. It is a war against human resources and causes many women to wither as the opportunities to develop oneself in the house are extremely limited relative to what a woman can create outside the home. My and many other women's need for self-actualization does not begin and end in the kitchen.

Amorprincesa24:
It's so draining making different stuffs and seeing their uninterested look.

I ended up eating that food. I wish they could say exactly how they want the food to look. The content and all.

How do you get your baby to eat? Please don't say adding colours and shapes like.

I was like see those sausages, they are round and round like a circle and she said same ewwwwww like when i cut them square like.

Herdamorlar:
Happy weekend,I have noticed this since last year that any office I enter it is only female that I encountered also any interview i went to we men are always plenty than women and at last we all know what we end it. I think this is why we don't have happy home these days because we all know that breadwinner wife will not be able to manage home with unemployed husband also unemployed men don't also want to get married which lead to many single ladies roaming the street and those men working also don't want to marry second wife because instead of promoting the male employee,most employers prefer to promote female counterpart especially in sales and marketing company.
Also our children nowadays lack home training because most of our wives these days doesn't stay at home to train them instead they are at their different offices closing late in the night. To solve this I think Government should be involve to regulate the job women can do e.g teachers,traders,marketers,newscaster etc not because of anything but our children and homes. What do you think?

bukatyne:
Where is the misogyny in the OP's post?

How did he display hatred for women?

You can accuse the OP of being too 'traditional' or 'cultural'.

His premise of discussion is not new: I first encountered it on foreign forums.

Traditionally, a husband should win bread while a wife cares for the home.

If the husband has to compete with other women/wives for bread, how would he effectively win the bread and perform his financial duties?

Also keeping in mind that the wives getting the jobs are not using the resources to care for their families: so their husbands have to 'hustle' harder to maintain the 'financial' frame in the family.

If the wife who should care for the home is out winning bread (which would not be useful at a family level), who takes care of the some?

Some school of thought have further processed to say women shouldn't study some courses in college because it is a huge investment without returns at that end.

What everyone should bring to the table is the merits and demerits of the current/proposed system.

Amorprincesa24:
Noodles for my picky eater.

Sixfeetbelle:
This might sound crazy but I think it's sort of a mechanism for making maximum profit off unsuspecting customers. Going to their DM for price means A doesn't get told the same price or given the same discount as B.

pocohantas:
Why do they do this? What are they hiding? It is annoying, stressful and scares clients away. Maybe I am wrong and it actually works for them. Any of them here should please explain to me the idea behind this.