₦airaland Forum

Princewell2012:
This is what you were told, but it is not the fact. However a lot of kids on nairaland don't know anything about the civil war.
We are trying to be diplomatic this time.

I wasn't told..

I have read Nigeria's history several times.

I have compared Igbo behavior of today to the behavior of Igbo leaders of the 1960s.

So don't tell me it's not fact..

Igbos have never been diplomatic and you can never be diplomatic so stop deceiving yourself.

GorillaApp:
You amuse me

You went to dig up war mermories. For your information, the Igbos fought against Nigeria, not yorubas. The Nigerian army comprises of several tribes in Nigeria - the middle belt, the Hausa, the fulanis, yorubas and southern elements. Go and read your history book.

The Igbos, against all odds, march towards Lagos ,( were stopped at Ore) not because it was a Yoruba land and they wanted it, but because it was the capital of Nigeria.
If that war was fought today, they would be marching towards Abuja.
In military campaign, opposing camps march against capital cities because it is the seat of power and once it falls, the war is won.
The fulanis that are systematically taking your lands, killing, raping and maiming are your friends while the Igbos are your enemies.
While you choke on your hatred for Igbos, your land is under threat and Ilorin is already in their pockets.
Pls leave the Igbos out of these your narrative. We don't want your Lagos. We only wanna do business, make money and retire to the east. period. Face your real threat.
I won't respond to any of these half baked sheet you guys are brandishing here
Bye

This is what you don't understand.. the moment Igbos decided to March to Lagos it became a Igbo vs Yoruba war and no longer Igbo vs North war..

Igbos never fought against Nigeria, Igbos killed mainly Hausa and Yoruba leaders so it was first Igbo vs Hausa war and then Igbo vs Yoruba war.

Authenticbiz:
We are saying thesame thing. No be person go clear the farm, plant crops, water the crops, weed the farm , before expecting harvest..??

No place on earth can develop itself no matter the amount of resources it has.

I don't know what you mean by resources...
If you mean human beings, then, mind you, the yorubas weren't the only ones occupying Lagos then.

If you mean companies,local industries,. and trade, no be human beings bring those things...

And there aren't any known record showing that only the original settlers in Lagos brought those developments.

Let's be truthful when discussing public issues.

Yorubas were the only ones occupying Lagos, Porto-novo and Cotonou which was one whole place before the e:uropeans invaded and created borders.

Thermodynamics:
You see the problem?
Which foreign land are you referring to?
Is Lagos a foreign land to an Igbo/Hausa man?
Lagos is in Nigeria, Igbos/Hausas are Nigerians, the Igbos/Hausas in Lagos are not in a foreign land, they are in their home country. You that is talking are you from Lagos or from Ekiti ?

Thermodynamics:
You see the problem?
Your identity has NOTHING to do with tribe or religion, those where things you were told when growing up, you are identified as a human, then as a black man, that's all, these are the only thing that came with you when you were born, tribe/religion are just things you picked up. The back Americans who were stolen from Africa years ago can tell that they were truly Africans because of their skin colour, the don't know if their ancestors were Igbo or Yoruba, they just know that they are human, and they are black because these are the only thing that cannot be removed from them, these are their intrinsic nature.


Which heritage are you referring to?
Is Lagos a foreign land to an Igbo/Hausa man?
Lagos is in Nigeria, Igbos/Hausas are Nigerians, the Igbos/Hausas in Lagos are not in a foreign land, they are in their home country. You that is talking are you from Lagos or from Ekiti ?

Nigeria is a bri:tish map which groups indigenous African nations/tribes into the location known as Nigeria so someone from a different tribe can never ever have equal stake in another part of Nigeria because that is not the person's ethnic territory.

So yes you're a foreigner in parts of Nigeria you're not indigenous to.


If you say you're Nigerian then it means you were created by the br:itish and started existing in 1914.

There is no ethnicity called Nigerian.

Sacrosanct12:
goat, have you ever heard that Igbo and Yoruba clashed in Lagos or anywhere. If e just reach election time una senses go over reboot to another thing because money is involved. If you pursue Igbo comot I guess it from your own people you will be collecting junction money make dem swear for your generation. By that time you sef go loss the small job wey dey give you chop money. Think bro you no get sense.

Other tribes are not bringing anything to Lagos that is not already available in Lagos or other Yoruba states.

Lagos or the SW can never be affected or be a shadow of itself if other tribes leave Lagos.

the SW will trade with Benin Republic, Togo, Ghana and Siera Leone..

Freebills12:
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Are you just stupid or ignorant? How many sea ports are there in the east? How many of them are working? Who are the business men and women in Lagos? How many goods have your entire generation imported in Nigeria? Let other sea port be functional then let see how there won't be mass exodus from Lagos... Igbos are business people wherever there is a conducive atmosphere for business they cite their tent there... As for now Lagos has the only functional sea port courtesy of civil war betrayal of Awolowo, sea port as a parting gift.

There's a port in Rivers state called "port Harcourt".
There are also:
Calabar port
Onne port
Warri port..

SE and SS have 4 ports

while the SW only has 2 ports.

Princewell2012:
We even needs the agenda much more than he is saying it, at least the one that will be enough to call for a referendum.

The reason why the Yoruba's are doing all this to the Igbo's is because we have never engaged them in a battle before, so they think we are Coward. They are respecting the northerners now because those one have show then little things before.

Biafran wanted to exit peacefully that's why they are behaving like a fool to achieved their arm, but this people are taking it as an act of cowardice.

You came to where election is taking place and you have the effrontery to the Igbo's if you can't vote for APC disappear from this place. And yet we still called it one Nigeria.

I personally don't advocate for trouble but sometimes it is good to fight back.

Yorubas and Igbos fought each other during the civil war..

the civil war was Yoruba vs Igbo war.


in the 1960s , nzeogwu exhibited such hatred towards Yorubas.


"According to a Nigerian Police Special Branch Report, nzeogwu executed at least 4 army and police security personnel including one of the men on his team (Sergeant Daramola Oyegoke). nzeogwu also participated in the execution of Col. Raph Shodeinde, his superior officer at the Nigerian Military Training College and is reported to have shot indiscriminately at fleeing women and children.."..

the statement above shows pure hatred for Yorubas and a lot of igbos all have this similar behavior towards Yorubas.

The Igbos also tried to attack the SW but we're stopped at Ore.

Before the civil war, Nnamdi Azikwe was also fighting the Yorubas politically because he wanted to be premier of the Yoruba region.

Ishilove:
The hard truth is it is majorly non-indigenes that developed Lagos. They can argue with their keypads all they want, but it won't change the hard, cold facts

Is it non-yorubas that are signing road construction contracts in Lagos?

Is it non-yorubas that are signing rail construction contracts in Lagos?

Is it non-yorubas that are drafting the development plan of LGAs in Lagos?

Is it non-yorubas that foreign investors will set up meetings with in Lagos?

Stop saying nonsense..

ThiefnubuBandit:
SHUT UP!!! YOU DAFT FELLOW! IS LAGOS A FOREIGN LAND? IS LAGOS NOT PART OF NIGERIA? MOST OF YOU CLAIM TO BE EDUCATED BUT YOU ARE TOTALLY EMPTY UP THERE!

Nigeria is a bri:tish map which groups indigenous African nations/tribes into the location known as Nigeria so someone from a different tribe can never ever have equal stake in another part of Nigeria because that is not the person's ethnic territory.

cococandy:
What ignorant crockshit

But let me indulge you and say you’re correct. So then a split country is best don’t you think so?
Because last I checked igbos aren’t ruling. Who are the ones ruling now and refuse to give other regions a fair chance. Igbos?

Because y’all project your crimes onto us doesn’t make it true. The facts speak otherwise. But I doubt your bigotry will let you see it

Yes, splitting the country is the best. But even Igbos themselves don't want the country to split because if they wanted it then they'll invest mainly in their region.

When Igbos ruled Nigeria from 1960 - 1966 the only thing that they could think of was subjugating other tribes in Nigeria.

Igbos have had their chance in Nigeria and they messed it up themselves.

Mensch86631:
So you mean as a Nigerian Lagos is a foreign land to me. You are nut honestly. You are affected by your stupid emotions. So I'm a foreigner in my country, you are insane

Nigeria is a bri:tish map which groups indigenous African nations/tribes into the location known as Nigeria so someone from a different tribe can never ever have equal stake in another part of Nigeria because that is not the person's ethnic territory.

So yes you're a foreigner in parts of Nigeria you're not indigenous to.

GorillaApp:
I'm truly disappointed this is coming from you. You know better bro. I don't reside in Lagos but I visit occasionally. the lame excuse that Igbos call Lagos no man's land does not hold water.
Everyone knows Lagos belongs to the yorubas. I haven't seen any Igbo man or group laying claim to Lagos.
I first heard the Lagos is a no man's land on nairaland made as fun to poke you guys.

The Igbos adore their heritage and will always return to it at every slightest opportunity.

It is baffling how the yorubas forget the real ominous threat knocking on their door- the Fulani expansionist agenda taking over lands in the middle belt, Benue and Yoruba lands.
I was happy when Amotekun was floated to tackle this issue, yet it is the Igbo man who goes about his business peacefully and has never even raised a stick in an act of aggression towards grabbing your land that is the threat.
It is mind boggling how you denied your son Gbadebo and Brandon him Ipob because he declared under labor party. This is really shocking.
I'm beginning to see some Yoruba folks in a new light. I still respect some of them because I have them as friends here and even my tenant who live free in my house in the village is Yoruba.

Yorubas and Igbos fought each other during the civil war..

the civil war was Yoruba vs Igbo war.


in the 1960s , nzeogwu exhibited such hatred towards Yorubas.


"According to a Nigerian Police Special Branch Report, nzeogwu executed at least 4 army and police security personnel including one of the men on his team (Sergeant Daramola Oyegoke). nzeogwu also participated in the execution of Col. Raph Shodeinde, his superior officer at the Nigerian Military Training College and is reported to have shot indiscriminately at fleeing women and children.."..

the statement above shows pure hatred for Yorubas and a lot of igbos all have this similar behavior towards Yorubas.

The Igbos also tried to attack the SW but we're stopped at Ore.

Before the civil war, Nnamdi Azikwe was also fighting the Yorubas politically because he wanted to be premier of the Yoruba region.

BurialGround:
Is Lagos a foreign land to Nigerians from other states?

What's the sin of GRV?

Lagos is in Yoruba territory so yes it is foreign land to non-yorubas.

GRV is a descendant of returned black people from South America who the en:glish favoured over Yoruba people.

Descendants of returned black people are not indigenes of the land they are imposters who bare first names similar to the indigenes so that they can benefit from what the indigenes are supposed to benefit from.

micflo28:
I am a Yoruba man, if igbos leave lagos, yorubas may all die because we are inordinately lazy...

Other tribes are not bringing anything to Lagos that is not already available in Lagos or other Yoruba states.

Lagos or the SW can never be affected or be a shadow of itself if other tribes leave Lagos.

the SW will trade with Benin Republic, Togo, Ghana and Siera Leone....

cococandy:
Okay.

So referendum and a split sound okay? Otherwise I don’t see another solution. Can’t force a marriage you don’t really believe in because it favors you even though you loathe your partner. That’s what y’all sound like when you hate iPobs for wanting a separate country but refuse to acknowledge igbo people as fellow and equal citizens. Can’t eat your cake and have it.

There’s no way you’re taking resources from other parts of the country to develop another part and then tell them they have no stake in it because of their ethnicity. Their ethnicity should have been considered before they became improved with the collective commonwealth.

Ethnicity was considered before the 1966 coup.

It was Igbos that truncated the system that protected ethnic economic interests due to the fact that they wanted all the revenue and resources from other regions to themselves only and also wanted to govern the other regions and this was because other regions were better than their region.

Authenticbiz:
That west you think is flourishing didn't reach that level by our respected Yoruba brothers ....you know I am saying the truth. Check the facts well. The people that developed Lagos state aren't the original dwellers...it was strangers, of which the Igbos were at the fore front.

Lagos, just like fct was lucky to be made Nigeria's capital back then because of the ease of trade with the colonial masters and other parts of Europe, largely due to apapa warf.


Just thesame way KARU LGA of Nasarawa state is being named the fastest growing LGA in africa. Before El-Rufai demolished parts of Abuja and people were forced to relocate to the neighbouring Mararaba, masaka, new Nyanya, uke, etc (all are the major parts of this KARU LGA), these places were just bushes with scanty houses.

Those who are there now and fair enough in their judgement will know that I am saying the truth.

The influx of people from fct due to demolition by El-Rufai into these areas has caused a rapid growth , thus KARU has retained that title of "the fastest growing LGA in Africa since then"

This LGA now generates the highest amount of IGR for nasarawa state, But do you know what's happening now, the politicians have refused to construct good roads and plan the place well. Their major reason is the KARU LGA is occupied by non-indigens , thus it can't attract attention from government.

But they collect revenue like someone going to his business area to collect money from his sales boys (I know this because I worked there during NTAX, in the days of VAIDS). And presently, one of my factories is there.

Let me ask you one question.... If these non-indigens revolt now on thesame grounds that the politicians are claiming, and stop paying tax, won't thesame government will call them ingrates....and label them with a bad name...??

That's what is happening in Lagos.

So, you see....you can't beat a child and ask him not to cry.

If our politicians won't tolerate other tribes in their states, in the so-called name of "ONE NIGERIA", let them agree to secession and let every region walk their way, and let's see which region will develop faster than the rest.

I rest my case.

Lagos was called Oko ( farm )... So it already had all the resources to develop on it's own even before the Po:rtuguese and en:glish ever stepped foot in Nigeria.

Alezy:
this is the mentality of an average Nigerian, why? Because tribal sentiments have eaten deep into your minds.

You are First of all Nigerian before Yoruba. Irrespective of your ancestral home, someone who has lived with you for a good number of years becomes like you as co owner of the land that's why u can see Sunak as PM in the UK today and Obama ruled the US. There was no racial stunt against him why? He is/was more American than those who are from there because he grew up there and spent more years than many of them.

But No, you all have used a word of one or two people to judge a whole tribe asking that they live you. Whereas without that tribe, your town would be far backwards than it is now.

In PH I know areas dominated by Yorubas, some where born here and this is their home. No one would ever ask them out of here because they are first Nigerian before Yoruba. That does not mean one or two of them haven't done or said bad things to indigens here. You can never hear anyone say leave PH.

You guys should stop this foolish tribalistic behavior.

Wrong.

You are first of all your ethnicity before you're Nigerian.

Nigeria is a bri:tish map which groups indigenous African nations/tribes into the location known as Nigeria so someone from a different tribe can never ever have equal stake in another part of Nigeria because that is not the person's ethnic territory.

If you say you're Nigerian then it means you were created by the br:itish and started existing in 1914.

There is no ethnicity called Nigerian.

cococandy:
There’s no place on earth that’s no man’s land. That’s just nonsense. Lagos is a major city in Nigeria so belongs to Nigerians.

Remember it used to be the capital of Nigeria. And was obviously developed with resources sourced from the
collective wealth of the country. The international sea ports and airports in Lagos were not built by one single tribe’s income only. You can’t expect to be built up by collective wealth and then tell those whose wealth have been invested in the development that they have no stake in it.

I don’t know if that makes sense to you or not.

Obviously no one is going to come to your personal house and tell you it belongs to them. So I’m not seeing what the issue is.

Nigeria is a bri:tish map which groups indigenous African nations/tribes into the location known as Nigeria so someone from a different tribe can never ever have equal stake in another part of Nigeria because that is not the person's ethnic territory.

gidgiddy:
US and Europe? Do they own us? We can all agree to our separate ways peacefully. Anyone who decides to fight after that is on his own

What do you think the likes of GRV are planted there for? To heat up the polity and create toxic animosity between Yorubas and Igbos.

In a sane country, GRV would have been pressured to withdraw from contesting due to his anti-yoruba comments and due to heating up the polity and his political career would have ended but in Nigeria GRV is still contesting...

If the guy wasn't contesting and Igbos had kept quiet and allowed things to play out.. the election won't be this heated.

gidgiddy:
And that is why we should put an end to Nigeria, disintegrate peacefully and go our seperate ways

Can't you see what's happening between r:ussia and u:kraine?

E:uropeans and u:s will never allow peaceful disintegration because they will want to sell weapons and make profit for themselves and their economies while destroy ourselves and our economies using e:uropean and u:s made weapons.

Timmi:
You are correct saying other tribes should build their own nerve center but wrong on Lagos just been the nerve center of the Yorubas. Lagos serve both the Yoruba and entire country as the nerve center.

No. Lagos only serves the Yoruba nation. It doesn't serve the entire country.

Ogaonos:
put port in rivers state nd see let this rubbish stop.

Ogaonos:
put port in delta ,rivers nd akwa ibom connect railway go inland port in anambra,imo,nd abia state make this nonsense tribal bigotry stop

There's a port in Rivers state called "port Harcourt".
There are also:
Calabar port
Onne port
Warri port..

SE and SS have 4 ports

while the SW only has 2 ports.

mikelopez:
What have Yorubas done for other tribe

Is it Yorubas that are giving Igbos money to buy land or buy houses

Is it Yorubas that's giving Igbos money to rent N50,000,000 per annum shop

Is it Yorubas that's giving Igbos money to import goods

Mention what Yorubas have done to other tribe

Bunch of tribalist

Yorubas gave Igbos and other tribes in Nigeria access to the Yoruba market and Yoruba consumers who patronize the businesses of other Nigerians who in turn make money from Yoruba people and that helps to improve the other Nigerians living conditions.

So yes, Yorubas are the ones providing all the things you mentioned above for non-yorubas.

gidgiddy:
Then that means that 'one Nigeria' is a fraud because Nigeria is supposed to be one big house everyone has equal stake in. If some have higher stake than others in any part of Nigeria, then we should dissolve Nigeria

You again..

You're just realizing Nigeria is a fraud..

Even in your family you and your siblings don't have equal stake so why should Nigeria be different?

Nigeria is a bri:tish map which groups indigenous African nations/tribes into the location known as Nigeria so someone from a different tribe can never ever have equal stake in another part of Nigeria because that is not the person's ethnic territory.

sukkot:
WHY IGBOS ARE NEEDED IN LAGOS

See many of you yorubas don’t have a ruling class mentality . You can’t see beyond your nose. You are getting into petty unnecessary beefs. You have to understand that in this life there are pim-ps and there are hoes. If you are not a pi-mp you are the hoe. And you know who the biggest p-imps are in Nigeria ? The biggest pimps are the Yoruba elites. Most especially Tinubu. The biggest pi-mp in the history of Nigeria is Tinubu. Now before Tinubu the whole Lagos was a slum. The commerce was dead. There would be just one supermarket called leventis in the whole of ikeja for example. And so the tax base was low and so no money to do projects or to upgrade infrastructure. All the big yellow transport buses were dangerous and rickety. There was poverty everywhere. So what does a p-imp like Tinubu do ? He went to the southeast to look for hoes. He knows these people are traders and business people and he enticed them to bring all their moneys and businesses to Lagos and enticed them with lekki land but behind the shadows the henchemen like MC Oluomo were hiding in the covers waiting for the hoes to set up shop. As soon as the hoes brought in all their money and businesses and abandoned their region to decay, the p-imp set his henchemen mc oluomo on all of them and started collecting heavy taxes. Just to have any billboard advertising your business on any house in Lagos alone you pay like 50 thousand naira a month. Imagine like 5000 signs in Alaba and ladipo , not to talk of other levies and taxes. Now the broke p-imp now has many hoes making him very rich and he is using the money for blue line, brt buses, Oshodi bus terminal, those blue taxis, some of the money he is using for politicking etc etc . And all these edifices are enjoyed by all of us as you sit inside An air conditioned brt bus as opposed to those yellow molues of the past. All these luxuries courtesy of the p-imp and his many SE hoes lmaooo. And you have to understand that on this issue of buying land, there is no freehold land in Lagos. It’s all leasehold of 99 years. And so no foreigners owns the land. They just borrow it for a while . The land will always belong in the Yoruba family but you can give outsiders the illusion of inclusion by leasing it to them , what many call buying land, for 99 years so that they can live here and bring all their money here to Lagos. Just imagine the billions of dollars pouring into Lagos that could have been taken to the east to develop the east ? Now you get the mindset of the ultimate hustler aka pi-mp aka Tinubu . lmaoooo. See the biggest pimps on the planet know that you need to attract different hoes from all over if you want to be rich which is why the richest states and cities in the world have an open border policy aka London, New York, Berlin, Dublin etc while the poorest are the ones who are closed off to the world like the south east of Nigeria is. And so you have to view this thing with a ruling class mentality and not from a pleibean mentality
https://www.nairaland.com/7604080/why-igbos-needed-lagos

Stop saying rubbish.. there was Mr. Biggs, Tantalizers, double 4, mega plaza, TFC e.t.c. and thousands of Yoruba owned markets and stalls before T:inubu became governor..

Timmi:
Mr Aloy Ejimakor, you got it wrong, it is the Ibos/igbos/IPOBs that want to leave Nigeria, and Lagos, the last time I check is the nerve center of Nigeria. So Ibo/Igbo/IPOB should leave Lagos and Nigeria, these people are the animals that make Nigeria a zoo and the rest of us wants our country back. We will roll out the red carpet for them and no one will miss them.

Lagos is the nerve center of the Yorubas.

Lagos is not the nerve center of Nigeria.

Other tribes should go and build their own nerve centers.

BJanta:
Must Ibos live in Lagos to have one Nigeria? The way these people think ,you never see wisdom in their thinking. They reason unintelligenly . Let everyone leave his city ,town, hamlet, and village and relocate to Lagos then ,so that we can have one Nigeria.

They want only the SW and Yorubas to practice one Nigeria while other tribes protect their own indigenous lands.

Tee2027:
Yoruba don suffer oo see as idiots are challenging you in your own land.

So all these bitchs don't have a state of origin or what? So Lagos is now every igbo excluding me headache ba?

How does that Omo Ale jatijati called Makaroni feel when people from other region are saying this to his own fathersland and same Kenneth, Psquare, Obi slowpoke etc can never even allow Delta Igbo talkless of Yoruba or Edo or Hausa has such effontry in any of the Eastern state.

Makaroni's mother is Igbo so don't expect him to be pro-yoruba.

sniperr007:
Firstly, you don't know history.

I work with facts not common sense because busing common sense, you will understand that Akure has similar cultural link with bini people than Oyo people.

Iso before you reply me, go and read your history books.

Shalom

You don't have common sense so how can you work with something you don't have..

You're delusional..

Rybnyk:
Lol. You think the Europeans invaded Africa? It seems you need to read more on the real history on Africa and slave trade. Africa sold their own people to as slaves. That roots documentary was a lie. The creator even said so. Go and read on the history of Dahomey. They were fierce slavers. There was a trade. African tribe sold their "enemies"(conquered tribes) as slaves. They also kept slaves themselves. The lie of an invasion has been a very convenient one to believe. That was why people were mad she that silly movie,woman king came out. It was a total inversion of history. The Dahomey people were really bad,especially to their fellow Africans. Dont read history with a closed mind that the Europeans were so bad and Africans were so good and were the afflicted ones. Look at our elites. This quest to dominate didn't start today or 10 years ago.

https://www.thespectrum.com/story/opinion/2018/07/14/elder-facts-slavery-not-taught-my-high-school/785432002/

https://slate.com/culture/2022/09/woman-king-movie-true-story-dahomey-amazons-slave-trade.html

Africa never ever sold slaves that's a divide and conquer strategy the eu:ropeans use. Dahomey warriors protected their lands from eu:ropean invasion...

I don't read or believe any version of eu:ropean or their African lackeys history about Africa.

Eu:ropeans will never admit that West Africans built ships and sailed and found the American continent..

They always portray ancient Eg:yptians as eu:ropeans. So I can't believe anything they write..

You are free to continue in your mental slavery. I am beyond that level..

SeunDAssLicker:
Yoruba did not fight any wars, Intertribal conflicts were normal pre-colonialism.

You have a phone and data, Benin has the most warriors pre colonialism. Read and stop making the rest of you Yorubas look like scoundrels.

I’ve taught you history you never knew today, start with that. Maybe you will finally stop making a fool of yourself.

Benin still the Great Wall ever made by man till today, they didn’t do that because of communal conflicts.

Yoruba wars were intra-tribal not inter-tribal, they were wars not conflicts.

You're the one making Binis look like scoundrels and you're making a fool of yourself by insisting people with a smaller population had more warriors than people with a larger population whose women were warriors..

Binis built a wall because they knew their neighbors have stronger and war-hardened warriors than them.

Just like your username you're an a:sslicker..

only an olodo can use such foolish username.

SeunDAssLicker:
🫢🫢😂 didn’t think you were daft until now. Enjoy your Day Mr

Mentally enslaved olodo...

Enjoy your olodoness.