₦airaland Forum

Richie0974:
It's not stated anywhere that the 30,000 applications started with this administration. You just sought another way to haul blames at the present government. When has the unemployment rate ever been low?

If the unemployment rate is high, what is government doing about it? Is N-power or trademoni a sensible idea to you? What happens to the factory owner and potential employer in Nnewi, Anambra whose business is suffering because of epileptic power supply? Isnt the Commonwealth of a nation meant to provide things the people share in common? What is the wisdom in using a criteria that can be faked - poverty to share trade-money?
Do you guys think at all. Can we hold the past admin responsible? is a bad performance from past admin a valid excuse for govt to waste our time? Do you guys think at all?

Sad but true.
The problem I have is with the nonchalant and selfish populace who can't ask intelligent questions.
If as a oil producing and partially refining nation we can employ 100,000 hands in refining less than 20% of our oil, why can't we refine it 100% and employ 500,000 gainfully? Nigerians hardly understand how nations utilize wealth.
Don't be surprised most of those applicants have one or two low paying job like n-power.
Why can't we produce refined petroleum and gainfully employ millions.

MathsEconomics:
I'm proud of the Chinese. A country determined to rule the world someday.

Religion has already dragged us below 6 feet in Africa, while university students in advanced countries engage in research even at undergraduate levels, our students are busy starving themselves and asking a useless God to use them, some do nothing but speak in tongues every evening, anytime I look at them, my hate for religion grows stronger.

We cannot reach the level of U.S, China, Russia and other top countries simply by buying their products and employing their scientists and engineers for that would only enrich them .

1, What have less religious ones among our students researched? That's one.

2, why is one of the two major religion always having better result educationally? The pattern is consistent across all regions, so why?

3, Why are church dominated regions where people pay tithes and offering always not the region housing the poorest?

4, what did our religion-less forefathers achieve in absence of religion?

Please answer these questions directly and let's see what you have against Christianity (A. K. A. Religion)... lol

HappyPagan:
Well done China. All your Oyedepos and Adeboyes are engineers. No wonder you are building our bridges and railway, and airport, and pencils, and phones, and .....


China is God o...

What are you as a pagan or atheist doing? Must it be the Adeboyes and Oyedepos who you claim are only reaching out to non existing God?

comcorn:
1,it appears you've forgotten that those Afghanistan people you just mentioned are mostly terrorists, who will go there and waste people's lives. 2, may be you don't know that many of these man of God suffered a lot when they started their ministry, so, what's wrong if they ride in jets, after all, the children of God are supposed to be the richest in the world.

The men of God don't ride jets the way people paint it on Social media. They are very busy people.

asuustrike1:
How did you get these?

Most of these are available on the school website and departmental page within the sites. It is like a standard practice. Even foreign schools too do it.
It is just like ICAN professional exam will openly list a breakdown of areas their curriculum cover in order to inform intending certifiers.
Most school have these thing on their website and that is why I don't like the idea of student condemning their course work schedule after admission or graduation.
As a prospective Comp Sci student I should be able to decide, before accepting admission or applying for one, which school offers the best Course Work for my chosen carrier path.

asalimpo:
c++ is far from dead. Fortran is dead but still used in niches- the scientifc community. I think it handles numerical computation better than c++ and matches it or exceeds it in speed! Most theoretical physicists swear by it.

I don't think all the languages there are meant to teach them the language itself but to help familiarize them some programming concept as well as prepare them for other packages.
MS Excel for example is a program that allows VB script to help make it robust and it won't be out of place to be taught Visual Basic in anticipation of MS Excel integration.

frankosivue:
Lol... it should be for introductory courses in Computer...

So they should keep busy with biology and chemistry.

In China, they’re closing churches, jailing pastors – and even rewriting scripture

In late October, the pastor of one of China’s best-known underground churches asked this of his congregation: had they successfully spread the gospel throughout their city? “If tomorrow morning the Early Rain Covenant Church suddenly disappeared from the city of Chengdu, if each of us vanished into thin air, would this city be any different? Would anyone miss us?” said Wang Yi, leaning over his pulpit and pausing to let the question weigh on his audience. “I don’t know.”

Almost three months later, Wang’s hypothetical scenario is being put to the test. The church in south-west China has been shuttered and Wang and his wife, Jiang Rong, remain in detention after police arrested more than 100 Early Rain church members in December. Many of those who haven’t been detained are in hiding. Others have been sent away from Chengdu and barred from returning. Some, including Wang’s mother and his young son, are under close surveillance. Wang and his wife are being charged for “inciting subversion”, a crime that carries a penalty of up to 15 years in prison.

Now the hall Wang preached from sits empty, the pulpit and cross that once hung behind him both gone. Prayer cushions have been replaced by a ping-pong table and a film of dust. New tenants, a construction company and a business association, occupy the three floors the church once rented. Plainclothes police stand outside, turning away those looking for the church.

One of the officers told the Observer: “I have to tell you to leave and watch until you get in a car and go.”


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[color=#999999]Wang Yi, pastor of the Early Rain church, who was arrested and detained three months ago, along with his wife. Photograph: Early Rain/Facebook[/color]


Early Rain is the latest victim of what Chinese Christians and rights activists say is the worst crackdown on religion since the country’s Cultural Revolution, when Mao Zedong’s government vowed to eradicate religion.

Researchers say the current drive, fuelled by government unease over the growing number of Christians and their potential links to the west, is aimed not so much at destroying Christianity but bringing it to heel.

“The government has orchestrated a campaign to ‘sinicise’ Christianity, to turn Christianity into a fully domesticated religion that would do the bidding of the party,” said Lian Xi, a professor at Duke University in North Carolina, who focuses on Christianity in modern China.

Over the past year, local governments have shut hundreds of unofficial congregations or “house churches” that operate outside the government-approved church network, including Early Rain. A statement signed by 500 house church leaders in November says authorities have removed crosses from buildings, forced churches to hang the Chinese flag and sing patriotic songs, and barred minors from attending.

Churchgoers say the situation will get worse as the campaign reaches more of the country. Another church in Chengdu was placed under investigation last week. Less than a week after the mass arrest of Early Rain members, police raided a children’s Sunday school at a church in Guangzhou. Officials have also banned the 1,500-member Zion church in Beijing after its pastor refused to install CCTV.

In November the Guangzhou Bible Reformed Church was shut for the second time in three months. “The Chinese Communist party (CCP) wants to be the God of China and the Chinese people. But according to the Bible only God is God. The government is scared of the churches,” said Huang Xiaoning, the church’s pastor.

Local governments have also shut the state-approved “sanzi” churches. Sunday schools and youth ministries have been banned. One of the first signs of a crackdown was when authorities forcibly removed more than 1,000 crosses from sanzi churches in Zhejiang province between 2014 and 2016.

“The goal of the crackdown is not to eradicate religions,” said Ying Fuk Tsang, director of the Christian Study Centre on Chinese Religion and Culture at the Chinese University of Hong Kong. “President Xi Jinping is trying to establish a new order on religion, suppressing its blistering development. [The government] aims to regulate the ‘religious market’ as a whole.”

While the CCP is officially atheist, Protestantism and Catholicism are two of five faiths sanctioned by the government and religious freedom has been enshrined in the constitution since the 1980s. For decades, authorities tolerated the house churches, which refused to register with government bodies that required church leaders to adapt teachings to follow party doctrine.

As China experienced an explosion in the number of religious believers, the government has grown wary of Christianity and Islam in particular, with their overseas links. In Xinjiang, a surveillance and internment system has been built for Muslim minorities, notably the Uighurs.

Xi has called for the country to guard against “infiltration” through religion and extremist ideology.

“What happens in Xinjiang and what happens to house churches is connected,” said Eva Pils, a professor of law at King’s College London, focusing on human rights. “Those kinds of new attitudes have translated into different types of measures against Christians, which amount to intensified persecution of religious groups.”

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[color=#999999]Catholics wait to take communion during the Palm Sunday mass at a ‘house church’ near Shijiazhuang[/color]


There are at least 60 million Christians in China, spanning rural and urban areas. Congregation-based churches can organise large groups across the country and some have links with Christian groups abroad.

Pastors such as Wang of Early Rain are especially alarming for authorities. Under Wang, a legal scholar and public intellectual, the church has advocated for parents of children killed in the 2008 Sichuan earthquake – deaths many critics say were caused by poor government-run construction – or for families of those affected by faulty vaccines. Every year the church commemorates victims of the 4 June protests in 1989, which were forcibly put down by the Chinese military.

“Early Rain church is one of the few who dare to face what is wrong in society,” said one member. “Most churches don’t dare talk about this, but we obey strictly obey the Bible, and we don’t avoid anything.”

Wang and Early Rain belong to what some see as a new generation of Christians that has emerged alongside a growing civil rights movement. Increasingly, activist church leaders have taken inspiration from the democratising role the church played in eastern European countries in the Soviet bloc or South Korea under martial law, according to Lian. Several of China’s most active human rights lawyers are Christians.

“They have come to see the political potential of Christianity as a force for change,” said Lian. “What really makes the government nervous is Christianity’s claim to universal rights and values.”

As of 2018, the government has implemented sweeping rules on religious practices, adding more requirements for religious groups and barring unapproved organisations from engaging in any religious activity. But the campaign is not just about managing behaviour. One of the goals of a government work plan for “promoting Chinese Christianity” between 2018 and 2022 is “thought reform”. The plan calls for “retranslating and annotating” the Bible, to find commonalities with socialism and establish a “correct understanding” of the text.

“Ten years ago, we used to be able to say the party was not really interested in what people believed internally,” said Pils. “Xi Jinping’s response is much more invasive and it is in some ways returning to Mao-era attempts to control hearts and minds.”

Bibles, sales of which have always been controlled in China, are no longer available for purchase online, a loophole that had existed for years. In December, Christmas celebrations were banned in several schools and cities across China.

“Last year’s crackdown is the worst in three decades,” said Bob Fu, the founder of ChinaAid, a Christian advocacy group based in the US.

In Chengdu, Early Rain has not vanished. Before the raid, a plan was in place to preserve the church, with those who were not arrested expected to keep it running, holding meetings wherever they could. Slowly, more Early Rain members are being released. As of 9 January, 25 were still in detention.

They maintain contact through encrypted platforms. On New Year’s Eve, 300 people joined an online service, some from their homes, others from cars or workplaces, to pray for 2019. Others gather in small groups in restaurants and parks. One member, a student who was sent back to Guangzhou, said he preaches the gospel to the police who monitor him.

The church continues to send out daily scripture and posts videos of sermons. In one, pastor Wang alludes to the coming crackdown: “In this war, in Xinjiang, in Shanghai, in Beijing, in Chengdu, the rulers have chosen an enemy that can never be imprisoned – the soul of man. Therefore they are doomed to lose this war.”





https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/china-christians-religious-persecution-translation-bible

frankosivue:
Don't you think since most of these non CS course are in 100 and 200L level there is nothing wrong?

Is 100L and 200L roo early to start doing real CS.

Tejiriseth:
Government obviously
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and how does the government get their money back?

I saw a Fulani looking man crying but didnt see any Fulani looking kid among the bodies. The closest thing I saw suggesting Fulani was cow.

frankosivue:
Why would NUC not allow them to improve? Curious.

If i understand him well, I think NUC is overdoing the regulation of curriculum in schools. Foreign schools have little restriction and are free to remove some of those biology and mechanical inclined courses to help accommodate more computer science related courses. Cc : asalimpo

raphieMontella:
wow bro..you really need to read and be educated

About what?

Adakintroy:
A wicked and ignorant generation seek after examples. I will not show you any. But your pastors who have commite to affluences and materialism. The church is a means to an end (helping the poor) but your kind will judge it as an end in itself.


Funny how you were quick to call me selfish.

I was hungry and you did not feed me, was in the hospital and you did not visit, I was homeless and you did not provide me with shelter.

I am the poor... I am christ.

the scripture cannot be broken. This are the days of his spirit. Young men will see visions and prophesy. They will reminds the church of his duties again before his coming.
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you have seen in your laws donkeys giving advice to prophets. So also in these days Presumably foolish things will be use to advice so called gods generals. So that the scripture may be fulfilled that he uses the foolish things to confirm the wise.

He who has ear let him hear what the spirit has and is saying to the church.





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I hope u not trying to quote Jesus ?

obstead200:
story

So says a doubting Thomas.

wanger50:
The much ostracized TB Joshua does that. I see thousands of poor people being materially blessed in that place all the times.The good news is that they don't own any of this exclusively for the rich universities. I've heard though, that a university strictly for the disabled and poor is in the pipeline.Happy Sunday

You are even more ignorant than I thought. If Oyedepo, for example, should publicize his charitable deeds like TB Joshua does, then people may be tempted to stone TB Joshua.
Google DavidOyedepoFoundation.com and cure some of your ignorance.

Tejiriseth:
Free has its terms and conditions..
But basically the students dont pay any form of tuition but sometimes, the classes Held are in their native language..... Or the scheme is open to only citizens
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So how are the lecturers paid?

Alexk2:
It is my business first because I'm a Nigerian and secondly because I'm a Christian with good knowledge of the word of God.....consequently, I can't understand how the Bible can justify a church building universities with or without members contributions and members/christians can't attent such higher institutions; I don't see how God can be happy with such arrangement. The common justification is that of "spreading gospel" but we know practically speaking, it's either not entirely true or the products are not significantly different from public institutions after all we have campus fellowships and churches in our public institutions too.

If you read my line of thought very well, you'll understand I just don't see why it's necessary for churches to go into building universities that won't have direct benefits to her members and Christians at large. As far as I'm concerned, there are so many other beneficial ways churches can help build the educational systems some of which I've highlighted above.
Finally, I want you to know that almost all public institutions in Nigeria are heavily subsidised so that it can be affordable to more nigerians. If govt can do that, churches are expected to do more with her universities. If the running cost won't allow them, then starting it all together seems to me as a wrong priority. Shalom!

Please how is the above possible?

eyinjuege:
Many people in the UK are not going to university again because they cannot afford it, and dont want to be indebted with loans after finishing school. This is a fact.
These private universities have benefitt3d a lot of Nigerians and they are meeting a need. If not for these unis, many more Nigerians wouldn't have had access to tertiary education, so I believe they are meeting a need. Afterall their members are also Nigerians, so what are your saying?

There was a report on timeshighered some times back indicating that as high as 70% of tertiary education in some European countries are non-university education. They take technical colleges and polytechnics very serious their and it is working for them. Here people don't even know what polytechnic are meant to achieve.

eyinjuege:
But many church members still send their children to these universities. Or are you saying members of winners don't have their children in Canaan land university? Not all members can have their children there because they dont have the capacity for that in terms of space and facilities. I doubt they can cater for more than 50000 students ( I may be wrong though).
I've always wondered why a person that pays 5K monthly tithes will comfortably expect her 4 children to go to Cannanland on account of free education things . How does that add up? The maths isn't adding up at all for me. Because you pay 60k yearly doesn't mean your children should benefit from an education of at least 3million per child for their period in uni. That's 12milla for 4 children.
I know that sounds like a good investment, but there's really no free lunch in Freetown.
Everyone loves awuff, but its also good to reason things na. I'm sure these same people would not agree to clean the schools for free or lecture for free, or do anything for free in these schools in order to make free education work. There's really nothing like that to be honest- free education. Someone else is paying for it

Sometimes in 2016/2017, Winners Chapel built a new secondary school in Delta state and I heard first hand from the resident pastor of that state, that the school cost in excess of N1 Billion. Now if you add up all the fee they charge for all student there and try to repay the cost of constructing the school it will take decades.
People who don't know jack about how the church runs will see the school fees and out of jealousy or whatever will start lamenting about some contributing church members not being able to afford the school. they expect the church to make it free so that every church member can afford it but is that really feasible? No it isn't. Now multiply the secondary schools the church subsidizes and add universities and then add primary schools also and Imagine what it takes to run the church schools alone.
People dont even know how finances work in a open society and it explains why they always expect the govt to do everything for them.

ejimatic:
. Thank God there are public schools and private school graduates are not better than public school products....

Thank God.

Tejiriseth:
Tertiary Edu is free in some places in the world
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You mean the lecturers lecture for free or somebody subsidizes the school ?

wanger50:
More privileged members put money together to pay for the poor. For example, u had the Church Missionary Society(CMS)which mobilized those monies for the benefit of the less privileged.With us here and nowadays, the poor contributes towards building universities only the rich can access.This makes it looks like the poor are providing for the rich

You are very ignorant sir.

Those churches that used to provide free services have either stopped those services totally or have vvery high fees today because the previous method was killing the church financially. How do you expect a church to take tithes and offerings or #5,000 and #500 and flip them into #500k of free school ? it is commonsense that the church cant afford such at this time. show me one church still doing that and I will take you serious.

Originakalokalo:
Yes sir....

And how was it ?

obstead200:
Bros, Ur reasoning is twisted. Anyway, I recognise Ur Monika as a well known praise singer of the money churches and their deeds, whether right or wrong. Arguing with u is totally pointless.
But the dude u replied is right. It does not make sense to build universities that can't impact on the lives of many because of the high tuition costs. I am convinced that 90% of these church universities are built just to stroke the ego of the church leadership. It has become a status symbol for big churches to own universities. Nonsense

You are barely making sense.

Covenant University for example wasn't built to stroke church leadership ego, it was conceived VOA a divine vision from God as long as 2 decades back and the visioner - Oyedepo never hid it but told the whole world from his small auditorium back then. The vision for a 50,000 seat church was also given. same thing too for the live transmission of messages to nations of the earth before satellite devices became commercially available. These are divine mandates and not ego massaging stunts.

wanger50:
Ask the white missionaries how they were able to afford free education and free living costs to the indigenous peoples. Church members who were better off paid the bills.In those times u didn't have all these tithes of a thing

So where did the missionaries get their funds from or betters still, tell us why they aren't maintaining that free school system today.
Please keep it simple and straight.

CptCharlesVane:
what makes it outrageous? Don't come and rant like a poor man here. If you cannot afford it, go somewhere else.

Some people have their poverty planned out for the next 20 years. just observe them closely. They are sure of poverty.

TrueNigerian300:
When you say something be very sure of what you are saying. This is a public domain bro good quality education is available in some part of Europe I mean you dont pay a dime. Although, tertiary education is really expensive in most part of the world but there are still free schools in some part of Europe.

I hope you are not offended for the correction.

If you claim totally free schools education exists, then who pays the lecturers? or do they lecture for free also?
Please before you parade as a knowledgeable person, know there is a difference between subsidized education or education on scholarship with strings attached to free education. Free in the meantime does mean it is free totally. Is a bank loan without collateral free? No of course because you bound to pay back and even with interests.
Same logic applies for those so called free European schools.

ArchAngelos999:
Great idea, but will they ever reason like that? They seem to just want to make a name for themselves and building a school is very appropriate for that purpose unlike giving bursary etc

They already give scholarship to those they can. Google DavidOyedepoFoundation for example. That's his own personal foundation oh. others exist.
That Alexk2 guy is just being plainly illogical and selfish here.

The school fee is a direct function of the chosen standard of the services the school offers and this standards were borne out of the vision of establishing the school ( CU ).
Do proper research and know how much govt spends on public uni to help bring the school fee down.

Adakintroy:
The church is a parallel government to the world. If the world think this way, the church ought to think otherwise. Dominion mandates if they understand it well Ought to consider the poor giving they are in their majorities... If they can win more poor over, The church already have more members. But I guess am senseless

Instead of giving selfish advice why not show us one church that does that and still survives? Show us an example or be the first to do it and stop poisoning peoples mind against innocent pastors and churches.