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HUGE_S: The answer seem difficult because we wrongly define destiny. Do you think when God is creating a man He has 'billionaire' or 'pauper' in mind? No, material things are too worthless to be the reason why God will create a WHOLE MAN.
Riches or poverty, success or failure, etc, which ever comes your way is as a result of the choice you make, and it is in no way related to destiny. A poor child suffering from malnutrition in a refugee camp can become wealthy tomorrow if he is DETERMINED in his heart.
The ultimate destiny ( end point/destination) of every man when he was being formed/created, is to live forever in the new world which God has prepared, wherein there is no sickness or death, or poverty and pain, but full life and unfathomable/ unspeakable joy, worshiping and loving God forever. This, of course, was predetermined to be so (only that we use our own will power to change this course of this preorination). Whether you remain poor or rich in this 'doomed' world is a function of your own choice.
However doing good to all men is the will of God for every man, and when you do that you are on the way to your 'eternal' destiny.

Why do you guys just love to spew so much fuckery in defense of this god of yours. Isn't it obvious to everyone your god is doing a shoddy job but you simply can't bring yourself to say it because you've been imbued with so much fear you can't even see the wood for the trees.Let me reiterate,we can all agree god doesn't exist,or if he did it would have been better for his reputation he didn't

greatgenius: what's your point really. Humans are forever shifting the blame...are you insinuating that a God somewhere is responsible for the plight of these kids?..The question you should be asking is what did these kids do to deserve this cruelty from mankind..

Unless we can all agree that there's no such thing as god,skydaddy,supreme being or whatever anywhere,then we can conveniently shift the blame to man. But until then i lay all the blame at the feet of a god who not only brought these children to this world but failed to protect & cater to their needs. I would do a much better job

RockMaxi: Waiting for you here. This is a clear case of the issue of destiny being more spiritual than what you can actually understand with scientific interpretation. The picture below is a result of circumstances and event that alters fate.

I call bullshitt! Didn't your god claim to know the plans he has for us is for good & not of evil? Sorry your god lied. What have these children done to deserve such suffering from a loving god? I'd strongly suggest you stop defending the indefensible. Your god is more or less irrelevant in the grand scheme of things

Jehovah Shalom: Much as I can say, DESTINY is WHOLLY PRE-DETERMINATED. Let's take for an Example the life of Our Lord Jesus Christ. He had a purpose for Coming into this world, and out of all the prayers Jesus prayed on earth, it was the prayer as regards Destiny that was unanswered. Jesus himself prayed for a change in Destiny (Lord, let this cup pass over me, not my will but your will be done). Yet, becuase of Predestination, the prayer remained unanswered. Similalry, the reasons why Oracles, Prophets, Dibians, Spiritualist etc could readily predict the course of a man's life is because DESTINY is PREORDINATED. When Christ himself was born, the three wise men saw stars and they knew instantly that it was the birth of a great person.

Yeah,his destiny was pretty much determined by a loving God. What an awesome God!
Besides,i created this topic 2 years ago[url] https://www.nairaland.com/682432/believe-destiny#8453805[/url]

So Purgatory first,then onwards to heaven. Bishop own don better be that. Have a safe flight bros,extend my regards to God & please can you remind him we're still waiting for the second coming or has he forgotten?

RockMaxi: I still pray that your eyes will be open beyond selectively chosen what will benefit your warped understanding of the Bible, you can't mock God and I still repeat it! What do you understand about sacrifice? The utmost sacrifice have been done by Jesus on the cross and the whole essence of your quote have been nullified by Romans 9:1-32, I believe you will have patience to read and understand.

Bro you scared? Stop referring me to verses. If you want a proper discourse,put the verses up here like i have done & i'll be glad to trash it out. Quit throwing clichés like 'God can't be mocked' around cuz it don't faze me one bit

The struggle to be funny.

yuzedo: BOSS! I was looking for your comment on here. You are the REAL GYM Iyke! Your muscle can deflect a nuclear missile. If you say i should leave NL i will pack my bags and go. Cold, bro, your muscles give me nightmare since the first day i saw your profile. I bet you can kill a goat with slap.

Professor D, that picture (if you) looks good. (#AbsolutelyNoHomo).. Your muscles and ridges are moderate, nothing out of proportion. Just the way i had aspired to look if i had continued my work-out routine.

chai work no gree me follow this thread as i for like

Professor D.:
Sumtin like this

You try but you still got some ways to go

Gombs: An good definition for atheism

Oh well,if you put it like that...

The name Jesus is a relatively new concept in Christian mythology

The truth is the story of Jesus Christ is nothing but a plagiarised version of the Isis Horus god that lived 5000 years before the story of Christ was concocted. Everything about Christianity was drawn from ancient pagan beliefs that existed at the time. Sadly,95% of Christians would never know this because they don't even read their bibles not to talk of other research materials. Whilst some know the truth but remain quiet or in denial for their own selfish reasons. Slowly but surely the truth will unravel itself.

Gombs: What message? What God does for a living?

BTW are you an atheist or agnostic?

Let's just say i'm a man with no invinsible means of support.

Gombs:

Your opinion is duly noted

Cool. Finally someone is getting the message

Gombs: Ever heard of the noun SATAN or DEVIL?

Well, God does not legally have a right to this world, remember he casted down Satan n his cohorts down here from heaven for their rebellion, so Satan ruined the earth God wonderfully created and he still is. God ONLY interferes on Earth matters through man. So if man don't pray, satan keeps wrecking havoc and make you blame God.


Well, I knw you don't really need answers nor truth, I just typed the above for those who'd view this page to learn.

Meanwhile, why ask what immortals do for a living?
Immortals live outside time, they don't need food or work or business or monies or such to survive/live

I must say, that's a very intelligent question

So God just sits his backside & watch his creation go to pieces because he is incapable of checkmating Satan,Lucifer or whatever nomenclature he goes by. Yeah makes perfect sense. Then he shouldn't be regarded as all knowing,almighty etc. Because he is clearly impotent & incapacitated to stop anything.
Or on the other hand, he could be the cause of everything evil in the world today & only looking for a bogeyman..referred to as the devil to blackmail for his actions. Remember it was God that said this...not the devil

ikekings1: Nice family!! Jack's arms though... I bet it's 25inches plus...

25 inches? Lool..not even close. The largest arm on record is 29".Those arms are no more than 18-18.5 but still cool

▲▲▲ And why should i spend the rest of my life pretending to pay obeisance to an imaginary friend just to make a group of people happy. This god has done absolutely nothing to earn my respect,& if you're totally honest with yourself you'd agree your god adds no value to your existence. But out of fear,you resign yourself to fate & make excuses for your imaginary friend..'God cannot be questioned'.'God works in mysterious ways'. And so on & so forth

anonimi: Did anyone else see TB Joshua on the pitch that day
Anyone remember the position he played- defence, midfield, winger, striker
Bunch of primitive, over-religious people- that is what we are!

You dey mind them. Arrant nonsense! God this,god that yet,the country remains a cesspit...mcheeew!

God is so petty. Why is he more interested in football than saving dying & starving children from the jaws of death. Please god,get your priorities straight

RockMaxi: Could you be so daft just to select passages in the bible to buttress your warped psyche without making a recourse to the purpose and intent of the verses.
Jephthah was the one that made a vow and God did not request it from him, check Ecc 5:4-6 and compare it with Gen 22:9-13, what do you come up with?

Get bitter all you want.But the truth is your god is one sick,twisted creature & this is not a statement I make lightly.The proof is right there in your bible but i'll forgive you because like 95% of Christians,you don't read your bible.
1 Kings 13:1-2
King James Version (KJV)
13 And, behold, there came a man of God out of Judah by the word of the Lord unto Bethel: and Jeroboam stood by the altar to burn incense.

2 And he cried against the altar in the word of the Lord, and said, O altar, altar, thus saith the Lord; Behold, a child shall be born unto the house of David, Josiah by name; and upon thee shall he offer the priests of the high places that burn incense upon thee, and men's bones shall be burnt upon thee.

2 Kings 23:20-25
King James Version (KJV)
20 And he slew all the priests of the high places that were there upon the altars, and burned men's bones upon them, and returned to Jerusalem.

Leviticus 27:28
New International Version (NIV)
28 “‘But nothing that a person owns and devotes[a] to the Lord—whether a human being or an animal or family land—may be sold or redeemed; everything so devoted is most holy to the Lord.
29 None devoted, which shall be devoted of men, shall be redeemed; but shall surely be put to death.

Fuel for fire
As for you, son of man, prophesy: Thus says the Lord GOD against the Ammonites and their insults: A sword, a sword is drawn for slaughter, burnished to consume and to flash lightning, because you planned with false visions and lying divinations to lay it on the necks of depraved and wicked men whose day has come when their crimes are at an end. Return it to its sheath! In the place where you were created, in the land of your origin, I will judge you. I will pour out my indignation upon you, breathing my fiery wrath upon you, I will hand you over to ravaging men, artisans of destruction. You shall be fuel for the fire, your blood shall flow throughout the land. You shall not be remembered, for I, the LORD, have spoken. (Ezekiel 21:33-37 NAB

God Commands Burning Humans
[The Lord speaking] "The one who has stolen what was set apart for destruction[b] will himself be burned with fire, along with everything he has[/b], for he has broken the covenant of the LORD and has done a horrible thing in Israel." (Joshua 7:15 NLT)

Burn Nonbelievers

"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

You need further proof?Or you're just going to carry on with the bile,bitterness and insult?

Ogbeche77: And this mofo is still the governor of a state in Nigeria How about resigning honorably & taking good care of himself....

Don't blame the governor. He's in a vegetative state and knows nothing about the goings on around him. It's his his wife,advisers & greedy politicians that are clinging on to power for dear life on account of a vegetative man

Fela the great

comradestalk: Jephthah's prayer of thanksgiving was accompanied by the fulfillment of a vow, and the offering of a sacrifice for his victory over the Ammonites. As some hearts feel, Jephtah's fulilled vow seems to be inhuman and some cannot understand why God should be pleasd with it. For this reason, perhaps we should consider it briefly, Jephthah was a worshiper of the God of Israel and one of the heroes of faith (Heb 11:32). Heathen nations of Palestine did offer human sacrifices to their false gods; but Jehovah repeatedly warned Israel not to engage in such sacrificies. Seeing Jephthah was a God-fearing Judge, and knowing that human sacrifices were an abomination to God, He could not be likely to countenance them.

It is therefore possible... that Jephthah offered his beloved daughter as as a spiritual burnt offering unto the Lord, in the sense that she was set apart for His service, forever as a virgin (11:37-40). God's approval, which Jephthah evidently received, could not have been given for any other kind of offfering. While zealous to express his faith in Gods' ability to deiver him from his foes, we feel that Jephthan's vow was a foolish one to make. source .... All Prayers of the Bible pg56.

'Jehohavah had warned Israel not to engage in it. Are you kidding me? Genesis 22 1-2
22 Some time later God tested Abraham. He said to him, “Abraham!”“Here I am,” he replied.2 Then God said, “Take your son, your only son, whom you love—Isaac—and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on a mountain I will show you.
I'm sure you would argue that god didn't let him go through with it eventually just a test of Abraham's faith. But it further butresses the point that the jewish god relishes human sacrifices like other gods of his time

pankere: YOU ARE SO FOOLISH! THIS IS HOW YOU PEOPLE MISQUOTE THE SCRIPTURES! SHE WAS NEVER BURNT FOR SACRIFICE! SHE WENT INTO THE SERVICE OF THE LORD N WAS NEVER MARRIED! WHY DO U THINK SHE WAS MOURNING HER VIRGINITY N NOT HER LIFE?

Typical christian way of twisting parts of the bible that make christianity and god look bad. It states their quite clearly and unambiguously that Jephtah VOWED to offer the first thing to come out of his house as a burnt offering to the lord.And eventually fulfilled his vow to his god. Do not take away or add to the scripture Proverbs 30:6. I might as well add,do not be a moŕon either.

Dewze: he did with her according to ''his'' vow and not according to God's instruction. The moral of that message which you have wickedly refused to see is that you do not make rash vows and careless statements like you are doing.
Do not allude a man's carelessness to God.

A vow is a vow and should be fufilled whether it is good or not.

In other words,it is ok with you that he sacrificed his only child to fulfil a vow he made to his god.And god didn't deem it fit to stop him at any point in the act seeing that he was sincere with the vow he made. You guys are truly sick. Sicker than your god. Religious drug is more deadly than cocaine

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Mudley313: The question to be asked here is what would almighty yahweh need burnt food and animal sacrifices for just like our traditional juju gods?

oh i forgot, in leveticus he declared his insatiable love for burning flesh; dude is one disturbed sick minded freak

https://i.imgur.com/ricLBZw.gif
>>>>>runs away before i get crucified by his followers like their crazy god crucified his only begotten son

Not just animal sacrifices,children were also offered to Yahweh as burnt offering. Seriously the mind boggles

Judges 11:29-40

29 Then the Spirit of the Lord came upon Jephthah, and he passed over Gilead, and Manasseh, and passed over Mizpeh of Gilead, and from Mizpeh of Gilead he passed over unto the children of Ammon.30 And Jephthah vowed a vow unto the Lord, and said, If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands,31 Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the Lord's, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering.32 So Jephthah passed over unto the children of Ammon to fight against them; and the Lord delivered them into his hands.33 And he smote them from Aroer, even till thou come to Minnith, even twenty cities, and unto the plain of the vineyards, with a very great slaughter. Thus the children of Ammon were subdued before the children of Israel.34 And Jephthah came to Mizpeh unto his house, and, behold, his daughter came out to meet him with timbrels and with dances: and she was his only child; beside her he had neither son nor daughter.35 And it came to pass, when he saw her, that he rent his clothes, and said, Alas, my daughter! thou hast brought me very low, and thou art one of them that trouble me: for I have opened my mouth unto theLord, and I cannot go back.36 And she said unto him, My father, if thou hast opened thy mouth unto the Lord, do to me according to that which hath proceeded out of thy mouth; forasmuch as the Lord hath taken vengeance for thee of thine enemies, even of the children of Ammon.37 And she said unto her father, Let this thing be done for me: let me alone two months, that I may go up and down upon the mountains, and bewail my virginity, I and my fellows.38 And he said, Go. And he sent her away for two months: and she went with her companions, and bewailed her virginity upon the mountains.39 And it came to pass at the end of two months, that she returned unto her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed: and she knew no man. And it was a custom in Israel,40 That the daughters of Israel went yearly to lament the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite four days in a year.


How Christians read this & flip through to the next page without feeling any tinge of guilt is really baffling

I think the Holy Spirit is God's private organ. Remember the 'virgin' Mary was impregnated by the Holy Spirit. More so,i believe God was talking about himself in this verse..of course,only a supreme being can have gęnitals that big & emit propane gases of such magnitude. In any event,why is this even in the bible? God must be really hoŕny

And someone would come & tell us the death penalty is not the appropriate deterrent . Hang em high!

You don't want to die,don't kidnap. Simple as! Don't commit a crime & come lecture us on how the punishment is not proportionate to the crime. If you kidnap in Edo state & you're caught,prosecuted & convicted. You will be hanged! Perfect! I urge other states to follow suit