₦airaland Forum

bonga60:
thank you Eiregirl really appreciate your imput this is madness, pure madness i need to put all my energy into raising my lovely son it is not easy but, david u re entitled to your opinion

i dunno why you are fretting. . . . .you have got absolutely nothing to lose if you sync with this man.
if i heard you correctly, you said he's getting his british passport next month - so he doesn't need the papers. you are not paris hilton so he doesn't need your money.

if i were you, i'd give it a chance!

babski56:
You're welocme.
I take it I'm right as there isn't a proper response.
Stick to talking about football.

it's tedious haggling with an undergraduate.
in the next 3-4 years when you get shafted in the job market, you'd come back here to tender a belated apology to me(i'm assuming you possess the decorum to do so).
for now, keep enjoying your exeter blues!

nateevs:
Absolutely abysmal form. I dey go sleep.

get lampard as far away from the starting xi as possible.

when he starts - chelsea lose
when he's on the bench - chelsea win.

once again, he was obliterated by liverpool players. jay spearing destroyed the credibility left in frank lampard.
if he has any decorum, he should retire tomorrow morning.

fergie better make sure he obliterates crystal palace tomorrow.

i want city in the semis. not in the final!
the home/away fixtures in january should be a cracker.

babski56:
An interview would not be based on where one has gone to university, I doubt that would account for anything, surely any respectable employer would want to understand your character, thought process etc Your C.V is what gets you the interview so by extension your employer already knows where you've been too school. Therefore if two people, one from MIT and one from Kingston university are called for an interview, they are more or less on a level playing field in the eyes of their prospective employer and so it would be other factors which would decide who gets the job?
As this is Nairaland, I mentioned Nigerians. Also, significant Nigerians are easier to point out, There would be no point telling you I am friend's with Justin King's son as there is a higher chance you haven't heard of him. Also, it's a bit ignorant to assume that dangote's kids and adenuga's kids are all going to go back and work for their parents,

Looking forward to your reply 'mate'. It's a decent break from revision.

level playing field?
thanks for making my day at least!

MRbrownJAY:
is that not what we all looking for?! someone REALLY REALLY into us. as i said, if y'all want to settle for less, then go ahead, i know i wont.
i want her to look at me and BELIEVE that i am special, BELIEVE that i am a great man, BELIEVE in me, but most importantly BELIEVE in US!
if she is only there for the money then you as a person are irrelevant!

don't play smart, mrbrownjay.
she is only there for you and the money. it's not like she would choose a stark illiterate over you because the former has more money!
simply put. if an average naija woman is really really into 2 men - she's more likely to choose the one with more money. the best of both worlds.

bro, go ask your grandpa about tradition, and see if within that "tradition" (you are quick to talk about) women had any right to open their mouth when MEN talked, or if women had any say in the union, or if they were not regarded as commodities. if ANYONE wants to use tradition in today's world, then they should take EVERYTHING about tradition or nothing.

it's a gradual process but the trend won't just stop in this generation. the abject poverty has stagnated the whole orientation process.
women want to be pampered, women want to be taken care of by the stronger s[i]e[/i]x. do some women overdo the pampering to obscene levels, yes. at the same time, some of them don't!

so your aim is to get her home as fast as possible? i know of many such babes, and if/when i get them home, the minute i am finished with them i ask them to quickly leave (ak a discard them). the fact that ANYONE would want to even date/marry such women is where my beef/shock is.

who is talking about marriage? stick to the topic!

again, there was more than just paying bride price involved, these women were bough t and paid for and the man could do WHATEVER HE WANTED with wifey. . . . . . .  even beat the hell out of her into submission.

really? wives were slaves then?
are you sure?

doesnt matter where the r/ship has reached, if there are many richer man in your area then there IS many places she can go. what you get with honey, you will lose with honey!

loads of them keep their dignity after marriage. the playing days are over as far as they are concerned.
they simply move closer to their God.

again, if you want to marry for the WRONG reason then go ahead and take that sort of gamble, BUT, if you want to find someone who is in this union for the RIGHT reason then you should never enter such marriage. our forefathers had perfect unions because women were obedient like dogs, never open their mouths and would say yes to whatever their "master" required.

we are not talking about marriage. the op simply asked - can you woo a woman without spending?
she never mentioned marriage.

ok my bad, but then why not simply go to the who.re house, its even FASTER  to get to the promise land  and CHEAPER!!!
unless you want a who.re BUT pretend that you guys are dating?!

there's a thrill in chasing, catching and nailing.
lions don't eat corpses! they leave such to vultures/hyenas.

exactly, and her affection/commitment is simply BOUGHT. how hard is it to see, come on man, at least let's be honest here.

she considers personality too. there are many other things they consider. let's not tar this women with a nonsense brush.
they consider religion, tribe, age, educational level and of course, money!

no no, they stay faithful to the GIFTS/MONEY since thats the only reason they are with you. YOU as a person is irrelevant to them, so long as you can provide for their immediate needs.

this is where you are wrong. most of these women are educated. some of them graduates. you don't expect them to date a stark illiterate over you because the uneducated chap has more money. they don't work that way(at least to the best of my knowledge)

you never lose hope and keep searching, giving up and settling for less is surely NOT an option!

some of us don't have time on our hands. time is money!

what burden?! many of these guys will NEVER eat in such places to begin with, they only do because they want to impress these gals who have NO FUKCING CLUE about the difference between a Chardonnay and a Sauvignon Blanc.

well - i dine/wine in such places. this is why this subject on the whole is a bit subjective. a man who normally wines/dines in sheraton hotel wouldn't take his date to mamaput. so whether the girl thinks she's smart or dumb - dining out at sheraton is certain. nothing to do with the size of her b00bs or the shape of her arse. many on the outside generally get the perception the dude is pu[i]s[/i]sy-whipped but the man is just having a normal meal.

who cares what these broke begging women want? WE men are the only solution to the problem because its in our human nature to be lazy. wouldnt you also refuse to change if someone wanted to stop giving you money for doing NOTHING?!

educate me, your highness!
how are men meant to provide the solution. there's hunger in the land. some of these women are underfed.
some of them save for months to buy 2nd-hand undies - how exactly are you going to stop them from taxing the male in the society.

don't force these innocent women into armed-robbery - please, i beg of you. i can live with what they are doing at the moment.

good riddance to bad rubbish!!! let her sorry a[b]s[/b]s go and settle with a rich guy, and YOU will have the last laugh. now if you are thinking with your balls rather than your brains then i say:"settle with such animal"
RESPECT is everything, if there is NO RESPECT then you have NOTHING. . . . . . . .however you want to look at it. now, PLEASE, do not mistake RESPECT FOR MONEY with RESPECT FOR YOUR PERSON.

money brings respect in nigeria!
don't even pretend you dunno this. look at how uneducated tools are ruling in nigeria and commanding the professors and the learned folks.
when someone is rich - it's generally perceived he's wise and intelligent. the poor man is a tool in the eyes of the naija society. his opinion means f@ck all!

LMAO!!!! these men are the ones doing the same things over and over expecting a different results. many think that they can buy LOVE with their brainless spending but, more often than not, the realize down the line that MONEY was the attraction. . . . . . . . .  and that these gals heart is/was with someone else who was probably chopping the toto (free of charge)

it's a bit of both - there's a balance.
you cannot woo a woman without spending and @ the same time, you cannot woo her without your charm/personality. to think you can win her with charm/personality alone in nigeria is a pipe dream!

i also love coochie with all my heart, BUT, i love MYSELF even harder, THEREFORE there are some things i am not willing to do . . . . . aka lower myself to some ideology that would have me hate the guy i see in the mirror every morning.

the thing is what these girls actually consider christmas gifts are normal things around most guys. the girls think they are milking the guy but the guy cannot even feel the pinch. he would have done the same for his pet dog anyway. it's the struggling naija men i pity. the ones who spend their wages saved in 2 months on a single date with a chic.

the irony again is i don't think they are idiotic. the women they want do not want them.
and they have discovered the way to a woman's heart is a bit of spending. the method works for them - i think.

the fact that you even believe that it is women's game and you cant disagree with them is the reason why many are gladly taken for a ride. whatever a gal asks/says, you would do it just because of coochie?! please!

meat-pie? fruit drink?
taken for a ride? oh please!

like most game, their are two (or more) participants and therefore it is OUR rules. our desperation for coochie has made women take over the rules but there are still REAL men like me out there who are fighting for the resistance, lol!
coochie comes a dime a dozen bro!

french resistance!

the reason it cant work is because there are men (like yourself) who are coochie whipped (no offence). thats the sad truth. the fact that you believe that its THEIR game, THEIR Rules, THEIR choices, shows me that you have been bamboozled and need deliverance. if we bring MORE to the table than they do then it should be OUR game, OUR rules, OUR choices! lol

their game does not hurt me! i don't even notice their game.
it wasn't until i heard gnashing of teeth from the other men i started noticing the things i consider normal are christmas hampers.

how ironic when knowing than in YOUR rainy days, you KNOW that this gal would simply move to the next big boi available

i am ready to take such risks.

well if you know AND believe that most people in 9ja live in poverty then i am safe to say that their demands are unrealistic due to the situation of the country they live in.
again, if you are just looking for a hole to dump your load, then go to ashi joint, its cheaper and less hassle.

their demands are not unrealistic. blame the government of our country.
i mean - a plate of rice and chicken shouldn't be a steep price in a normal world.

you said it yourself, Aristo biz is one of the fastest growing biz in 9ja, shouldnt you be CONCERNED like me?!

there are other things to be concerned about.
armed-robbery, boko haram, removal of oil subsidy, etc.
aristo business? how does it affect stock exchange?

think ahead for the generation to come, and ask yourself if you would like your daughter(s) to be involved in such acts. i know i wouldnt!

the previous generation didn't fight for us. if they did, nigeria wouldn't be so shitty.
why should i fight for the next generation. let them fend for themselves.

if i sire a daughter, i would send her to the abbey!

musKeeto:
you'd pay more than the iphone cost to deliver it to my place. Got you some cheap brains on black friday

and the homoerotic nuisance is still bleating. . . . .
it would cost me nothing to have the device delivered to your hamlet. . . .

i'm giving you this fone as a gift so you can borrow siri's artificial intelligence as your natural intelligence has failed you - woefully!

milehigh06:
wow! so much bile,wel for your info,there was a time german football was going through a sort of recession,when they did not have the players to take ver from lothar matheus and co,their football suffered a great deal and then they decided to work inwards which as a result you have the klose and podolski,marco reus,ballack,thomas kuranyi and co which formed the 1st level of german resuurection and then led to this present crop of german players with their 1st outing at the last WC and now they have added the likes of mario goetze,thomas reus and they might not win the next WC but i bet the germans will win 4 of the next 10 WCs

german football going through which recession - are you people living under a cave?

the germans have always been a football giant.
they were in the world cup final in 82 and 86. . . . they won it in 1990.
they won euro 96. . . , bayern munich was in the champs league final in 99, they won the euro champs league in 2001.
they got to another world cup final in 2002. unlucky to lose against italy in 2006 semis. . . .
got to the final of euro 2008 and they finished 3rd in south africa 2010.

and you are saying their football went through recession?

Horus:
This lady represents most English people.

this is the most ignorant statement i have read on this forum.

the action of one crack-head slapper babymama should not smear the goodwill of the other english people.
as you can see on the video, a white girl was giving another black dude a hug just to show her solidarity.
the other white woman stood up for the black female that was being racially abused. she's not nigerian by any means. . .the original poster is just trying to create a mass hysteria.

anyways. . . .stop making ignorant statements like this.
there's racism without a doubt but to say the crackhead LovePeddler represents most english people is wrong.
she's there swearing in the presence of her little kids - that should tell you the kind of upbringing she had and her level of illiteracy.


in another news, the woman has been arrested and she will now appear at croydon magistrate's court.
her name is emma and she's 34 yrs old.
hopefully, she'll get 5 yrs!

[quote author=Jenifa_ link=topic=812479.msg9652863#msg9652863 date=1322531161]then I would want to avoid such a guy anyway. sound like a guy who approaches 10 girls a day.
onila, you missed nothing. tell yourself that  [/quote]so which guy doesn't approach 12 a day.
if only you knew the number of babes your boy/f considered before deciding to settle for you. . . .

onila:
I am a pretty and nice girl
he missed me

#coughs coughs#

[quote author=Jenifa_ link=topic=812479.msg9652786#msg9652786 date=1322529033]that's why I advice her to be friendly towards him.
ie smile at him, make friends with his friends, etc. stuff like that most sensible/interested guys should appreciate. if he doesn't then he probably wasn't interestd in d first place or had an ulterior motive for approaching her. then good riddance because she just saved herself a headache.

i'm trying to cheer our "shy" OP up. not encouraging her to play games or any of that senseless stuff.  [/quote]conveniently forgetting he could have found someone else when the op won't stop fronting.
when one door closes, five new ones open.

[quote author=Jenifa_ link=topic=812479.msg9652669#msg9652669 date=1322526679]if he's really interested he will approach you again.
just be friendly towards him that's all.[/quote]it really amuses me when girls think a guy is coming back to approach them.
if you have one opportunity, grab it. there's no promise of another.

MuyiGL:
It's either you didn't see the 2010 World Cup or you don't follow the German league to see how well it's doing now. Or maybe you've not been following the Euro qualifiers or you're unaware of Germany's current ranking. Either way, you don't know what you're talking about

you are the one talking rubbish.
germany have won 3 world cups. . . . plenty of euros and you are disgracing yourself germany is now doing well.
when have germany failed to make an impression in any tournament? you then compare them to nigeria who have never won a world cup and who's only won nations cup twice!

may the gods shrivel your c[i]o[/i]ck!

MuyiGL:
Pardon the long epistle. But that's the point I'm trying to make, you say the league is crappy. Once we can tackle it form the grassroots, make the league good, more players will get exposed at earlier ages. Why do you think Germany is doing so well now?

when have germany not done well?
you want to compare germany to nigeria in the amount of money their fa spend on football?
surely, you can't be serious!

naijababe:
I bet a lot of us commenting on this thread had fathers that were married at 24. @ OP, he's your child and what you do is up to you; I am a mother and I have a son and I'll tell you in very certain terms that if my son tries this he'll become a mechanic or vulcanizer apprentice.

things were different and easier then. completing secondary school alone guarantees a job of a clerical officer in a bank. and by the age of 16-18, most of those folks completed their secondary school with mouth-watering jobs to take. i doubt there were 40 million jobless youths in nigeria then.

these days, it's a different ball game. asides the private universities, the average age of a university graduand is around 28. years and years of strike from the lecturers, unpaid salaries, different student riots, etc have stagnated most students and have turned them into babies.

A single kobo of mine will not be spent on sending him back to school to pay all over again for something I've already paid for.

easy for you to say.
many of you mothers don't even know if the child fails, the parents have also failed.

if i were his mother, i will not give up on him. . . . . . .until he gets it right.
i wouldn't care how long it would take. my son is my son - will not let him rot away because of what the society thinks.

MuyiGL:
Until we can tell ourselves the truth, refuse to celebrate undeserved and unrewarding victory, and accept that we really have a problem; I don’t think Nigeria can ever win the World Cup.

that long epistle to prove a point?

what do you expect nigerian players to do? if they don't lie about their ages, how would they get contracts from the big clubs?
you want wenger to pay for an untrainable 29 yr-old striker @ enyimba? don't be ridiculous. it doesn't work that way.

first off, our league is horrendous and the age-grade competitions provide the opportunity for the players to showcase their talents. it is in these international tournaments that scouts of the big clubs poach these young players. sign them on contracts and their rough edges are straightened!

Goldieluks:
##Falls out of pawpaw tree##

ouch!
you'll need a pair of crutches after that. . .

debosky:
I'm bored with the same old nonsense - if Utd don't win, it's excellent goalkeeping. If Chelski don't win it's wasteful strikers.

if utd don't win - it's excellent goalkeeping.
if chelsea don't win and they lose games they actually dominated - then the strikers are wasteful.

if you cannot see the glaring difference between the two then go for an eye surgery
i will pay the fees - you homoerotic nuisance! calculate the ratio of number of shots on target to the total shots taken and come back here.

Moronic double speak.

idiotic comprehensive skills.

Anyways, so why didn't Utd win after Rooney played? I thunk Rooney was the missing element?

united didn't win because they got robbed. newcastle was never going to score. . . .it was actually rooney's shot that got deflected into the net.
rooney was the missing link against benfica. . . .

pendo89:
If a man can do that without spending? I honestly salute him cz that to me is the mark of a real man.

not applicable in nigeria. . . . .except if the babe is really really into you!

MRbrownJAY:
we have to evolve from such traditions if it doesnt fit the era we live in. back in the days WOMEN didnt work, didnt fend for themselves and were simply regarded as baby poppers. now we live in an era where ANY woman can buy herself whatever she desires. why would you want us to regress and keep them enslave to us like our forefathers did?!

they want to keep themselves enslaved. the men are not responsible for this ish. . . . .the men just found themselves in this quicksand and the chics are not letting go of the tradition. a man must prove himself to be a man in their eyes before they can be swayed! if it's not working for naija men, they won't be doing it!

so, are you saying that if a guy pays for the restaurant, ON THE FIRST DATE, he is serious about the r/ship with this stranger he barely knows?! BWAAAAAH!

in their eyes, yes! and i go with the method that works fast for me without hassles.
did you not read about a girl on here who met a total stranger at mr. biggs? the man paid for her meal and invited her to his place the next day.
there was no hesitation from the chic. she got there pronto the next day with the thoughts of more meals to come. if the man had approached her without buying. . . . .she wouldn't have paid him any iota of attention!

although i do lay some blame on bride price for such mentality, there is a HUGE difference between the gifts that must be offered during marriage ceremony AND gifts that must be handed on the first date (in order for that person to show interest in you).

it should be the same thing in principle(at least in the principle of equality). why should i pay bride-price for marrying a woman? who is doing who a favour? why should the man pay? what does the girl pay? that is your principle - isn't it?

and thats the point, anyone who goes into a r/ship and thinking that, "maybe", his partner MAY leave, IS NORMAL(focus on MAYBE). . . . . . .  but it is a CERTAINTY that if you do not continue paying these broke begging gal (who is with you for your "ATM" abilities), she will leave your broke a[b]s[/b]s.

it depends on where the relationship has reached - if it has entered marriage, she has nowhere else to go!

believe me bro, there are many ways to take a gal to dizzying heights, handing over gifts is the worst of them all.
i want to bring emotions from her that MEAN something to our r/ship. if her emotions are only based on how much i spend on her then it is worthless in the long run.

tell that to the birds - tell that to naija men!
in igboland, you don't even have to speak to the chic directly to get her. just drive to her father's house. state your intentions for their daughter.
peel some wads of pounds. sit back & relax and watch the power of money: within few days, the girl would develop natural love for you instantly!
trust me - it's the tradition!

you are simply a wannabe 100metres sprinter while i want you to be a marathon runner. you wanna reach the promise land as fast/easy as you can but, when getting there, you will realize that your victory will be short lived not appreciated.
how can you value something you didnt work/sweat for? just like the thieves and their proceeds of crime.

maybe i didn't even plan to stay there in the first place. have you taken that into consideration?

oh lawd!!!!! and what is HER commitment, if i may ask?!

her commitment commences after the she agrees to be your girlfriend.

what makes YOU feel special in that said r/ship?
no doubts that offering a gift to someone makes them feel special, BUT, when they want to feel special with every Tom Dikc and Harry, thats when you gotta say ENOUGH. i want a woman to feel special for the RIGHT reasons, buying her gifts every damn day, paying her school fees and feeding/clothing her IS NOT one of these reasons.

you are not getting this.
it's not like they want to feel special with every tom dikc and harry - at least not in most cases. once most of them are hooked to a guy, they stay faithful to him. it is when she is single that her suitors would have to be at their best. the biggest spender with the best composure usually wins the race. the moment she chooses him - then the race is over!

and this is why i said that MEN should aim for women who demand for NOTHING material. they are out there, SEEK and you shall FIND!

how do you find a needle in a haystack?

again, if a lady has been eating lobsters every day and i want to date her, i will have to raise my standards to (at least) buy her lobsters, or accept that she is above my level (unless she pays for all our dating financial needs). . . . . . .  the problem is when BROKE BEGGING women believe that they should be treated to lobsters everyday when they have no fukcing clue how it taste. unless you COME from the good life, you shouldnt expect anyone dating you to treat you as such, each and every time (especially NOT on the first date).

but isn't that the normal naija attitude. the moment they see you are dining in a 5-star hotel, they heap that burden on you. because you are paying, they automatically become a fan of what you are eating. babes do it and sadly, the men do that as well.
you are their life-saver!

i am not in California, i am presently in Rio de Janeiro.

a land of plenty! the land of exotic women.

who care if/when it applies with 9ja babes? the facts remains that we men are killing our women with our reckless spending, so we men have to fix the problem at hand. sweeping the issue under the rug because most have blue balls is NOT helping.

the men can't fix it cos the babes don't want to be fixed.
aristo business in nigeria is the fastest growing industry! be warned!!

and your reply should be:" yes i am! are you a woman? then act and respect yourself like one, instead of selling yourself like a common 2000Nairas Ashewo!"

and then she feels insulted. she takes her yeye bag and she leaves. then you move to the next asset - and you get the same result.
what do you call a man who tries the same method and expects different result? i don't even have the time to find a needle in the haystack.

for the good of the generation to come, i hope you are wrong about the above in bold.
also, if women are quick to label me "great" while i am the worst men on earth (but rich) then i REPEAT, these women views are IRRELEVANT!
if thievery is what they look in a man, will you suddenly accept to indulge in the act (because of desperation for coochie) or would you stand for your belief that what they do/ask is WRONG?!

i love coochie with all my heart. whatever method that brings it is fine by me.
if that's the rule of their game - i cannot disagree with them. their game - their rules - their choice!

again, we cant expect to live today just like they did in the past. we cant judge women today as if they were living in the past. MUCH have changed regarding the status of women in society, anyone who want to believe and act like it aint is seriously deluded. so as much as women couldnt do poo for themselves back in the days, TODAY IS DIFFERENT!

you are making this sound as if the men are forcing these chics to act this way. men aren't. matter of fact, most men want to save their money towards other stuff. i welcome your idea but it's not just applicable in nigeria.

there is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with that, so long as it was done because you GENUINELY wanted to, not because of the desperate belief that if you dont, you cant be with her.

she needs to be impressed. she needs to know you will be there in the rainy days.

who in this position would want to be "saved"? you raise someone above you and now expect them to give up their position of power? ask any Nigerian legislooter to give up their seats and there answer will be a clear understanding of what you are up against.

if they don't want to be saved then let them burn!
seriously - most times, their demands don't bother me. it's nothing off my skin. you want this - you want that? no problem!!
i am only after canaan! the end always justifies my means.

thats my point, we need to educate these gals and educate the men who pay for these gals. i am doing MY part, i hope you do yours someday!

damn it, mrbrownjay! don't make this sound like substance abuse.

yes you are right, many dont have money for their immediate necessities and therefore they are selling themselves to the highest bidder but it is WRONG, IMHO, so therefore i have to "try" to change the minds of the little few.

i hope they listen to you for the greater good.

we gotta start somewhere, give some pride back to our brothas/ sistas who are engaging in the act, vote for better gov officials so that the needs of the common people are met etc the important point is the START!!!!

hehe - freedom fighter.
i can only pray - that you don't join hands with stephen biko in the belly of the beast by the time you embark on this journey!

MRbrownJAY:
lol, bro Coogar, you are indeed a hard case to crack. now from the wifey stealing money thread, you come and debate with me on THIS issue, lol. ok let's get it on:

it's on!

i am simply saying that these women are no different than the ones anywhere else, the only difference is that WE (men) have gotten them used to begging, which in return they are now believing that it is the ONLY way to date.

it's the tradition from the days of mungo park to now. nigeria is a patriarchal society - men are expected to hold positions of power and prestige.
these women grew up watching their fathers giving handouts to their mothers, etc. that's the way the society is designed and this is why naija chics have it in their heads that a man must spend for them to show he's serious!

MY POINT IS: yes, to many, r/ships in 9ja are about giving BECAUSE THATS WHAT THEY ARE MADE TO "BELIEVE".
shiiiit, if you had s[b]e[/b]x on the first date with ALL the gals you met in the past, wouldnt you expect that from EVERY FUTURE WOMEN (whether right or wrong)?!

"beliefs" forged by tradition! a cursory glance at list of things to bring with the bride-price in a traditional marriage is a pointer.
i am sure you would ask why a man needs to produce those to marry a woman.

so long as they are paying, yes, but we can all understand what she will do the minute you cant act as her "ATM" any longer.

maybe, maybe not!

and you, sir, believe that the only way to take her there is through heavy spending? lol!

this is where we differ.
whenever i get on a task, i always follow it through. so my spending or not actually depends on the kind of girl i meet. if it's a girl worth pursuing, i must follow through and i will keep at it till i get to the promised land.

yes, we ALL choose based on level. . . . . . . .  and if any guy is willing to date or marry a beggar/who.re then fair enough. the same way THEY want security, WE want to be with the RIGHT person. now, if she is willing to date anyone, simply because they have money, THEN i am safe to say that SHE AINT THE ONE. . . . . . .but again, that are only MBJ's views.

she's not willing to date anyone because of money. she wants you to be committed. the amount you throw at her is commitment!
of course, we want to be with the right person and at the same time we want that right person to feel special. my guy, gifts make them feel a bit special.

so are you saying that ALL NIGERIAN WOMEN will cheat?! ALL NIGERIAN WOMEN are attracted to money? i hope you have a little more respect for your sistas/mother/aunts etc and say SOME will, NOT ALL. now i dont know about you but when i chose a long term mate, thats because she is SPECIAL, UNIQUE, DIFFERENT than most of the ashis that are easily available if you flash some cash, or/and the ones doing runz all over 9ja.

i didn't say all nigerian women will cheat - but a far majority would if they think they are not getting what they should be getting. little did you know that some of these girls actually come from wealthy homes and they don't really lack anything. they just want to be treated to nicer things in life.

you DO know that these women you are referring to are simply the same person as these guys: broke naija gals with high standards. so if YOU think it is ok for them to sell themselves to the highest bidder, then you should also think that it is ok FOR YOU to do the same. whats good for the goose, is good for the gander. sadly, it is DESPERATION that will have many just pay up to be with these gals who dont give a damn about them.

like i have said earlier.
nigeria is a patriarchal society. men and women ain't equals in nigeria.

yes, sadly, thats what women want us to believe AND thats what many men fall for. this is as stoopid as saying that: men with no money SHOULD NOT date, or that a women's love cost money. wake up bro, its time this shiit stop. a REAL woman's love dont cost a thing, the love that costs money is the love of the broke begging gals that are so desperate, that they decided to sell their bodies (AND WE MEN PAID UP). WE are the problem, some men are so desperate for coochie that they are ready to even settle for an ASHEWOS!!!!!

you better remain in california with this attitude of yours. this is not applicable in nigeria by any means. your seriousness to date is gauged by the amount you are willing to throw at a girl. i am not saying this is right/wrong. i am telling you what applies 99% of the time.

btw notice how EVEN when men DONT have anything to give, they are stingy evil wicked, but when have NOTHING TO OFFER, it is ok.

patriarchal society. this is why you get to hear: "are you not the man?"

that should CLEARLY tell you that THESE women's opinion about us men are WORTHLESS, since you can be the biggest gorilla looking he-goat (with the worst attitude) and still be referred to "angel, godsent, serious bf etc" if you simply BUYS THEIR AFFECTION. lol
how ironic that you are taking women words to value yourself as a man, while their words mean absolutely NOTHING (or the price of a meal)

because that is the tradition in that part of the world. statements like "money for hand, back for ground" didn't just materialize from nowhere.
it's a tradition that has been around for hundreds of years and it's not going to change.

no i dont. i understand what we are up against, i am just telling you that we (men) are to be blamed, we (men) are the solution AND that what these babes believe are WRONG!

why should we be blamed for the tradition my forefathers actually had to cope with? i'd rather be blamed for being nigerian.
think about it - there's a chic in your neighbourhood that ticks all your boxes as a man. then you approach her and she's nice, friendly, etc? then you ask her out on a date - which she agrees to. so what is wrong if i decide to spend $$$ on this date? does that make me a mugu? considering the fact that men actually take their mates to a bar to drink and they pay(sometimes more than when taking a chic out).

it's for THEIR own good that we have to become REAL about the situation, because many end up as leftovers when they reach an older age. abi, who will even settle for such old babe when plenty plenty younger ones are ready to pros.titute themselves for BB?!

the fact is they don't want to be saved!

i dont know about you, but i wouldnt want my sista (if i had one), my daughter or anyone else that i care for, to think the way these today's babe think. . . . . . . .so therefore i am just making MY job to make sure that we bring a generation that value themselves and that can think in a positive manner. but as i always say: to each their own!

the society is largely responsible for this. many of the so-called ashis we see in nigeria come from good homes, responsible parents.
they go to school and mix with the bad eggs. the bad eggs are flossing, they rarely lack money or material things whilst the good chics are just there having to depend on their parents for pocket-money(some of their humble requests get denied too). so what would an average chic do?

of course, she would join the bandwagon!
now imagine a society where students can work and make money for themselves without having to rely on their parents for handouts - won't the level of this indirect prostituti[i]o[/i]n be reduced to a bearable level? i blame the patriarchy and the seeming abject poverty in nigeria for this.

babski56:
I still don't think you understand, I WAS right in picking Exeter over Manchester.

you're flogging a dead horse. i said since you are studying economics, you may be right cos i was thinking sciences/engineering when i said manchester is better.

[qute]
Your point about MIT and Exeter is also invalid as even Sagamite states that Exeter is full of posh rich kids which is completely true. The ratio of public to state school undergraduates at Exeter, is one of the highest in the country. Check.

[/quote]you'll find posh rich kids at this level so you are hardly proving any point here, my friend.

[quote]A first class degree holder from any top 30 university in England will ALWAYS be better than a pass out of MIT. In this day and age, much to my disappointment, I assure you, 95% of university places are given on merit, so you are more likely to find the sort of people one would want to network with at Oxford Brookes and not MIT.

i strongly disagree. . . . .a first class degree holder in exeter is not better than a pass out of mit! that's erroneous. the standards are different, mate!
the pass degree holder would probably cop a first class degree in exeter and if you are unlucky to be applying for the same job in an interview, he would take you to the cleaners - don't even sweat it!

I really can't believe you think the certificate isn't as important as the people you meet, you'll just have to explain that one a lot better to my 'dumb' self. I should also add that I'm a product of one of the better schools in West Africa and in England so if networking is the issue, then I could say I know people. Dangotes and Adenugas were in the schools I went to #just saying.

it's the networking and the references and the fact that he actually passed through mit.
we are talking about global networking, you are talking about dangotes//adenugas kids who would all return back home to workk for their parents.
mit networking will get you into ftse-100 without hassles. forget the fact that you made a pass!

MRbrownJAY:
no, r/ships in 9ja ARE NOT about how much money a man has or how much car he has. this is what women have turned to because of their poor financial state and greedy mindset (coupled with desperate Nigerian men).
here are the options to choose from:

so which is which, mrbrownjay?
on one hand you are saying relationships in naija are not about how much a man makes and on the other hand, you are saying that is the case because women have now turned into gold-diggers caused by their poverty and greedy mind-set.
surely, these 2 cases cannot co-exist. it's either you agree relationships in nigeria is powered by cash or it's not.

- OPTION A flash your cash, spend money, buy a gal's affection, be immediately in a contractual arrangement with her ( i cant possibly call that a r/ship), she will do whatever you ask if you pay her the right price (probably even sleep with your dog), and you will "think" that you are happy. your "nig.ga wake up call" will happen when you either have no more money to spend on the she-goat or  someone with deeper pockets decides that you aint shiit and he will take her over from you. . . . . .  . . . either way, that's when you will start THINKING that i may be right.

many nigerian men met their partners this way and they are happily married.
nigeria is a habitat - survival of the richest. it's either you are wealthy enough to date and take a girl to dizzying heights or you are not fit for purpose. there's no way you can tell me girls don't choose based on "levels". even if the girl is blind to such, her parents would want to know the status of the man she's bringing home. totally ignoring this fact from your point of view is erroneous!

-OPTION B be honest about who you are, dont try to pretend to be who you are not, dont fall for cheap tricks by she-goats, it may take a while to find the RIGHT woman BUT, when you finally find her, the r/ship you will have/enjoy will be second to none. the time invested in this r/ship will MEAN something and the day you either gain or lose everything, she will STILL be there for you to support and go the long/hard road with you.

and in no time. . . . . . this same girl will be sleeping around with richer men and she'll eventually break the heart of this man after the long-arse wait! you are likening an average nigerian woman to women in the western world. they are worlds apart.
one thing you forget is this. there are millions of broke naija guys but with high standards! the women they are attracted to are not attracted to them so they spoil and treat women who are physically out of their league to the finer things in life.

in nigeria, money = love!
when you don't have to give, you are stingy, wicked, evil, unserious.
when you have to give, you are an angel, a godsend , a serious boyfriend, etc.

you really overestimate the morals of the present generation of naija-based chics!

i blame the nigerian university system for this. . . . . it's epileptic. the access to information is zero. students don't even have school accounts where parents can log in and see their progress in the schools. the posters blaming the parents are a tad idiotic. many of these children school out of state. when exactly are these parents meant to travel hundreds of miles to the school to find out how grown-ups are doing?

parents have to work everyday to bring money home to pay fees and handout pocket money to the kids. most parents also have junior siblings they have to attend to all the time. parents cannot be everywhere and any one older than 18 is an adult who must take responsibility for his/her own actions.

iice:
[color=#9900ff]I think Gannicus is only better because of experience in the arena and training. He's cocky which sometimes leads to downfall of some powerful men. Sometimes reflex is what saves him but that is again because of the experience and training.
Spartacus has seething rage but more importantly the indomitable spirit. It's what saved him despite his lack of experience and training. [/color]

i quite agree. . . . .
i think boils down to if gannicus can be sober or not. he is highly skilled and has shown to be an excellent fighter even when under the influence of alcohol, s[i]e[/i]x and hangover.

debosky:
But this useless sharon will go on the Chelski thread and blame strikers for being profligate?

Double speaking confuzzled twit.

you are a consummate tool!

united failing to score in a game and chelsea failing it to put their opponents down in several games is now the same thing?
wait a minute! were you born a vegetable? united were not wasteful on saturday. they had shots on target that actually beat the goalkeeper but was rescued on the line by defenders. they did exactly what they had done to arsenal(8-2) on saturday but the ball didn't just go in. it's quite different to chelsea who squandered chances in several games and lost those games as well.

BCuZiMBlaCk:
Gannicus anytime

why do you think so?

[quote author=Mr_TA link=topic=716327.msg9644202#msg9644202 date=1322423477]Very sad news about the death of Gary Speed. [/quote]very depressing news. gary speed at 42, dead!
sometimes you have to think if life is worth living.

on other news, liverpool got a draw playing city. how? loading their midfield with 5 players.
if we play them again, fergie will still play 4-4-2 and leave carrick and giggs to battle it out with 4 city midfielders.

babski56:
you rejected manchester to go to exeter?

i rejected beyonce to go for mercy johnson. i hope you don't regret your actions when you start looking for jobs.
manchester? rejected? it's either you are lying or you are just dumb!

Lol, I am not lying and I am not dumb. Exeter for Economics is a lot better than manchester and also has one of the highest student satisfaction rates in England, I liked the idea that it was a small university based on teaching undergrads. It is also a growing uni, 250 million pounds has been invested in the uni in the last three years and it received one of the higest govt endowments last year. Campus is absolutely beautiful, but that goes without saying as it is in Devon.

At the end of the day, where you went to uni doesn't matter to much, it's what you get, and I don't plan to waste my fathers money. A 2.1 or better from here and a masters at an ivy league university should land me whatever job I want.

I also rejected reading which was my last choice, manchester was my second to last choice but they were the first uni to grant me admission. Also with the grades I got, Exeter was a lot harder to get get into, Manchester is a BBC to ABB uni whereas the minimum grades for any course at exeter would be aab.

If anything, I'll regret not going to nottingham but thats just because I did a levels in that area and my friends are there. What have you got to say about that?

the circle of friends/classmates you meet in these schools play a bigger role than the certificate. it's called networking.
if i make a pass out of m-i-t. i should be better than a first class degree holder in exeter!

economics? hmmmmm not too sure about economics in manchester - lse should be the best in europe.
manchester is better in science/engineering. so you might be right choosing exeter over manchester.

iice:
[color=#9900ff]Spartacus [/color]

why do you think so?

gannicus won a sword fight blindfolded!
he actually fought to get freedom. the first of his kind.

i think he's the best gladiator from the house of batiatus. i may be wrong though cos spartacus is no slob either.

overwhelmd:
My gratitude for the response. Before the discovery of the truth (2009) he was seriously talking of wanting to go to India for the "cisco-computer networking" but we didnt allow that because we are of the believe that "that comes after 1st degree graduation". Is that certification course possible without the 1 st degree? If he gets "cisco" does that qualify him into the labour market of "computer science" requirement?

all the certifications listed there are possible without a degree certificate. i don't know about nigeria cos we worship certificates there a lot. my superiors here(united kingdom) in the engineering field have no first degrees and they are doing very well. they got to this position via certification courses. it seems the boy likes computer science - encourage him and let him start ccna or sap!

i also think the reason he doesn't want to go back to school is the shame surrounding that particular move! it's not like he doesn't want to be responsible. if he finds himself in a new environment with a stern warning that this is his last chance - i doubt he would make the same mistakes. i am quite sure he will do very well if sent abroad where he can do his studies without having to worry about gossips.