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MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ the organization never ever invested on WEAPONS jàre.
I've come across so many atheists and the links they will present aren't TRUSTED links so they're just lying to their own souls!

At least if they could bring the evidences that JWs are profiting from companies, that would be convincing enough.
Oga o

Ken4Christ:
Jesus wasn't talking about Holy Ghost baptism or water baptism in this context.

He is talking about the word of God and the work of the Holy Spirit in the miracle of the new birth.

No one can be born again unless you first here the word or the gospel of our Lord Jesus. It's your response to the gospel that saves you.

And, how do you respond to the gospel?

First, according to Romans 10:9-10, you must believe in your heart that God raised Jesus from the dead.

Second, you must confess with your mouth what you already believe in your heart and also declare that Jesus is the Lord of your life.

This is how you can be saved or born again. They mean the same thing.

They don't mean the same Baba.

When you confess and believe, your no doubt saved. But you need to be baptized by the holy spirit to be born again.

John 3:5
[5]Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

There are many cases where people heard and believed the gospel first before getting baptized later through laying of hands.

The only way the people in the early church received the holy spirit was through laying of hand.
People didn't get saved through laying of hands.
Peace.

MaxInDHouse:
You don't know how far apostates can go to blackmail God's people.
The simple fact is that his story doesn't have a soft landing, an organization is gathering people in millions throughout the earth and ERASING POLITICS, MILITARY SERVICES and HATRED from their hearts, and not only that but making them preachers and teachers of the message of PEACE. And at the same time investing billions on the production of WEAPONS!

Haba even if you tell a King on his throne this story such a king will fall down without a push.

Who go buy weapons after turning away from WARS and MILITARY SERVICES?

"Mo gbọ, mo jábọ́, ikòkò ìdí mi ré lulẹ̀ ó fọ́"

I know the companies can't let them spoil their market na. It's not feasible.

oteneaaron:
Come again?
So you're fine with the FACT that your CULT are major Investors in not just one, but in up to to three different companies who produce weapons of mass destruction?
Wow.
It is you who should be pitied.
You say you support peace, but at the same time, you invest in a company making weapons of mass destruction.
Do as I say, but not as I do?
Is that not blatant HYPOCRISY?
Is this what is expected of God's Organization?

I'm not arguing the fact that they invested in those companies in the past.

Where are the evidences that they're still the major shareholders and are still making profits from those companies now?

achorladey:
Evidence ko future tense ni?
After another evidence e go be past participle. Go and ask oteneaaron for more. The one placed before you first what is the move you have made about it?
Oh I remember the move is past or present tense things.

Your not reasonable really.

achorladey:
Baba fe dehin. Before that who said this....
I tested mine, it worked, you find it difficult to manoeuvre the potency of it.
Na to amplifier your works here. I don't go about insulting people or giving them names because they are not in agreement with what I said. I don't look for enemies where it is absent. Victim card game on PUBG almost activated
Allow me use my freedom. You always complain about others stifling yours
Na my fingers I use type am. You get your personal copy. Leave me with my freedom.
My concern is they say A and do B . You should understand the length and breadth of that.

"Allow me use my freedom"

achorladey:
Won ti fe da si nu dustbin pelu present and past tense things
Baba future tense ni eleyi oooo.

oteneaaron:
Is semantics the issue on ground?
Your Organization has major shares in companies that produce weapons of mass destruction and you're here asking me about present and past tense?
Interesting.

Where did you get this and are they still shareholders in the company?
Because if they are supporting a company producing weapons of war, that's bad.

Bring the evidences abeg.

achorladey:
Won ti fe da si nu dustbin pelu present and past tense things

Baba future tense ni eleyi oooo.

Bring the evidence na. Make I know my next move.

achorladey:
This is one is beginning to follow my lead later he will still go back to his you no go ever get sense peddling on nairaland
Very much relevant to me. Abi Jehovah’s witnesses don't create threads about Apostates? You think na seresere abi?
Like prominent members your religious organisation are involved in immoral practices
And you go about peddling irrelevant things. Oluwa gba mi oooo
Rather very relevant . Here is why it is. You said
You went ahead to jump into it with out me mentioning you. And your first point of call is to say....... you no go ever get sense peddling........ to me. I tire abi moto now ooooo
The reason the below is very relevant.....
Na your you no go ever get sense peddling cause this kind thing you post up there. Did I call you before you start your you no go ever get sense peddling. Did I? When he said apostates should be shunned completely, does that connote freedom to enter such threads created by apostates or follow it?
God airpus oooooo

Be my guest awon don't restrict my freedom people
Oga freedom freedom freedom. I can choose to help whom I desire. Abeg
Tag am anything you like, na you be the you no go ever get sense peddling peddler on nairaland. . Not my problem.
When I showed you you said you didn't see anything
Keep following my lead regarding irrelevant things. You are learning

It's not called following lead. It's called giving you a taste of your own medicine.

How many alias have you given me/us now

Otenearon is more in need Baba. Help your friend, be sincere with him.

So you can shout oluwa gbami when your about peddling 'you no go ever get sense', e no de tire you?

What's your concern with what the GB advice us about apostates?

oteneaaron:
I am done for now.
I'm waiting to see you debunk the evidence above.

Is this past tense or present tense?

Why are you Jehovah’s witnesses on nairaland always creating thread about those that you call workers of lawlessness?

These are your words and I hope they are relevant to you

What do I have here again

Your exposed lies!

I said you no go ever get sense peddling .

Irrelevant!

Na your you no go ever get sense peddling cause this kind thing you post up there. Did I call you before you start your you no go ever get sense peddling. Did I? When he said apostates should be shunned completely[/b]. Does that connote freedom to enter such threads created by apostates or follow it?

Very irrelevant!

Na your you no go ever get sense peddling cause this one too.

100% irrelevant!

I am giving him a reminder of what kind of medication he has produced out there. . He does not have to ask for my help. I can offer help free of charge

Sometimes freedom has boundaries.

That your "free of charge help", you can offer it to your perishing athiest friend otenearon. He really needs it.

Freedom freedom freedom to give it to you as reminders. I don't need irrelevant questions about it.

Reminder for what exactly? Or else I also tag this as irrelevant.

Another trouble for you and MaxInDHouse. Your God is a God of order. You can chose to give and follow conflicting advice. It just shows that your God is different from the Bible you carry.

What about your God? You don't have.

The problems related to you no go ever get sense peddling keeps piling up.

Irrelevant!

achorladey:
Irannileti pe you are the you no go ever get sense peddling peddler on nairaland.

Don't use your always divert my discussion.

Didn't you say always?

I hope I get you right. You dragged yourself in already. That's not my palaver.

Everyone has the right to follow the thread.
Stop complaining that JWs are here.
If you have issues with Max, face him alone.

Good, so what are you doing on this thread when you are asked to shun apostates completely? I don't want your you no go ever get sense peddling response like...... you want to correct misconception or help innocent ones . Abeg

What's your problem with that?
Are you working for the GB?

See how long he took him to get to the thread. Was quick to call people you no go ever get sense. . Apostates to you as defined by your religious leaders are ex Jehovah’s witnesses only abi?

It was there all along.
You know when you said always, it was a lie. He posted that once in last two years.
How did always come in?

It is you no go ever get sense peddling

Seriously? You gonna quote that forever?

Conflicting advice as it were. Open your eyes and see it again
1.You were never supposed.
2. Shun them completely.
3. But they actually respond to you guys

So what's your problem with it?
You want us to follow a conflicting advice?

Irannileti ni sir, Reminders ni sir just as dey give you during your religious gatherings

Irannileti pe "you no get sense"?

Pharmacists and herbalist do test their medicines to check it potency. Learn! Your brother in Jehovah cannot use his own medications. What does that tells you?

Let him test it on himself, he didn't ask for your help abi?

Or is it that your forcing ro test your own medication on him?

achorladey:

Hismasterpiece:
All you've said does not explain the parable rich man and lazarus. And the Scriptures about the lake of fire in the book of revelations being a place where people are tormented day and night. The Bible clearly says that they are tormented day and night and the smoke of their torment ascends forever. It also says that the rich man was being tormented too.

What do you have to say to that? The Bible is very careful in its description of the lake of fire and even goes as far as to say that death and hades were thrown into it.

Okay lemme ask you some few questions.

What is Hadēs/hell/grave can it burn in a literal fire or be tormented?
Is death something literal or abstract? Can it burn in fire?

When will the wicked started burning in fire? Immediately after death?

Hismasterpiece:
Ok, so you believe that once a person dies they cease to exist?

Sure bro. But God will raise people to life in the future when Jesus comes back.
Some are actually in heaven now ruling together with Jesus as kings. They already resurrected and part of God's Kingdom. Jesus is their KING.
These people have the zeal of the holy spirit and GOD is choosing them from every corner the earth. There are just 144000 in numbers according to the book of Revelations.

Ken4Christ:
Must I explore your website to know how I can become part of the kingdom of God? Can't you guide me with scriptures?

Na scriptures de the site.

Ibomrep:
God's kingdom is a heavenly kingdom that will replace all human Government. Daniel 2:44
2Thessalonians 1 : 6-8

It's a real government with all characteristic.

It's made up of the following :

(1) Seat of Power

Heaven is the seat of power of God's kingdom.

(3) The King

Jehovah God appointed Jesus Christ his son as the king of his kingdom.
Daniel 7: 13,14. Matthew 11 : 28-30. Hebrew 10 : 12, 13

(4) Co-rulers

Just like human government in which a king, Governor, or president doesn't rule alone. Some people will rule with Jesus.
Revelation 5:9,10. Revelation 14 :1-4

Jesus apostles were the first set of people that God choose from Earth that will rule with Jesus.
John 14:1-3, Corinthians 15: 42-44

(5) Subject

All others Christian on Earth will become citizens of God's kingdom. Psalms 37:29

(6) Constitution ( Degree)

Government make laws that are supposed to benefit and protect their citizens.
God's kingdom too has Superior Laws that it's citizens most follow.
Bible contains the law of the Kingdom.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11

What will God's kingdom Accomplish?

(1) Restoring Peace and justice to the earth

Jesus the King of God's kingdom, will destroy wicked people and government at the war of Armageddon.
Revelation 16 :14, 16

At that time Psalms 37: 10 will be fulfilled.

(2) The righteous will possessed the earth .
Psalms 37:29

(3) End of Human government

'Man has dominated man to his harm' . Ecclessiates 8: 9.

So for this reason and many more, God's kingdom will replace human rulership. Daniel 2: 44

(4) Earth environmental problems will be solved. Isaiah 35:1,2

(5) World hunger will be eliminated . Psalms 72:16

(6) Perfect health for all. Isaiah 33:24

(7) No more death !!!
Revelation 21:3,4 Isaiah 25:8

( Animals will be harmless to Humans.
Isaiah 65:25

(9) Accommodation for all
Isaiah 65:22,23

(10) The blind will see .
Deaf will hear.
Lame will leap.
Isaiah 35:5-7
Revelation 21: 4


(12) Many will be resurrected back to life !!!
Act 24:15

There are two hope for all Humans that is either living forever here on Earth under God's kingdom rulership or Going to Heaven to rule with Jesus over the inhabitants of the earth.

It's only Jehovah God that will decide for all.

You can live forever on Earth only if you exercise Faith in Jesus Ransom sacrifice !!!

Note, after Jesus Christ and his Co-rulers Rule and restore the earth for one thousand years he will then handover power to his father, Jehovah, and he will rule forever.

They many live triggered questions that the Bible provides satisfying answers to , do well to explore the world most translated and visited religious website - WWW.JW.ORG



A world without sufferings, corruption, Deaths, Hatred, poverty, Unemployment and sickness is near !!!

Be alert !!!

Vote for God's kingdom now !!!

Make sense.

Ken4Christ, you're a false prophet!

John 3:5-7
[5]Jesus replied, “I assure you, no one can enter the Kingdom of God without being born of water and the Spirit.
[6]Humans can reproduce only human life, but the Holy Spirit gives birth to spiritual life.
[7]So don’t be surprised when I say, ‘You must be born again.’

Jesus emphasized that only those are baptized with the holy spirit are born-agains.

All born agains are definitely saved but not all saved are born-agains.

People of Samaria believed when Philip preached about the Messiah and the good news of God's Kingdom. They were saved already cos they were already baptized in Jesus's name in water.
Peter and John later went to lay hands on them to transfer the holy spirit to them.

2. I am not complaining. I am giving MaxInDHouse a dose of his medication. You only need to ask for the dose since your eyes could not see the screenshots I posted earlier. The thread does not belong to me. It belongs to whom you and your likes call APOSTATES. Simple as A. B. C.

Was that why you said always.
Like JWs here always post about apostates?

If this was about MaxinDhouse, then don't drag me or JWs in okay?

The post wasn't even directed to you personally but to JWs warning them against the any apostates out there.

About the screenshot, that thread was created 2020 and I haven't really seen any thread about apostates since I'm back here.

Bring the lies here first make I see so I know what to apologise for the and the mistake made.

Shebi na always na.

I know I am not discussing with a toddler. You need to explain the below further...
1.You were never supposed.
2. Shun them completely.
3. But they actually respond to you guys

Good advice from the GB.

The many problems of your you no go ever get sense peddling.

É no dé tire you.
I said it once and you've reiterated that more than 15 times haa!
Ikan mi wa nbe ni?

So why tell me to get out of here? Mr cornelboy the sane and you no go ever get sense peddling peddler on nairaland. Isn't it a free world here?

No one is chasing you na. I didn't bring come in the first place.

Good, what did MaxInDHouse say about APOSTATES on one his thread created here? Time to get a dose of your medication. I will see if indeed nairaland is a free world to you and your likes or not. ;

Giving people dose of their medication makes you happy right? It gives you JOTL?

achorladey:

MaxInDHouse:
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm Cornelboy!

You're still learning but in the post you quoted the Apostate has short himself in the foot.
The question you supposed to ask him is:
Are both Saul and David doing the will of God that time or one is doing Jehovah's will while the other has become an apostate?

Answer: During the time Saul was at war with David he (Saul) has become an apostate knowing fully well that the same high priest (Samuel) who anointed him as King has anointed David and of course Samuel did Jehovah's will not his own so whatever makes Saul think of fighting against the newly anointed King of Jehovah is no longer appreciated in pure worship.
That is what Jonathan his son knew and stood upon as the truth. So Saul was no longer a JW by the time he started fighting against David he has become an Apostate just as Acholardey who is also fighting against the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses but can't present another anointed priests working for our high priest and King Christ Jesus!

My phone was about to die yesterday, so I just gave him that.

achorladey:
Sorry you really think I'll do that for you. I'm smarter than that man.
Common denominator


You are the you no go ever get sense peddler on nairaland. Being smart or not is not my problem




Until I see the evidence keep asking a question that is increasingly irrelevant based on your being smart or you no go ever get sense peddling.




I cannot start looking for enemies where it is absent. Na beg I dey beg make you understand that.



Oteneaaron never called for my help on anything called unbelief. I don't go creating unbelief where it does not exist.



I am not Jesus . Jesus I know don't look for enemies in places it doesn't exist.



Na you didn't see anything. . No where do I disclose to you that I didn't see anything.



Truth like TRINITARIANS who lived before 1950 made heaven while those living after 1950 won't make heaven.



Including people that said I am a Jehovah’s witnesses and I am yet to a baptized Jehovah’s witness




Atleast you have learnt something. Na me comot for the religious organization you now belong. You didn't help me to leave. Learn. Na my palaver to sort.

As one grabbing hold of the ears of a dog is anyone passing by that is becoming furious at the quarrel that is not his.

Should you see my leaving as a quarrel between me and that organization. Then it is my quarrel not yours. Keep applying your you no go ever get sense peddling here.

As you do keep clapping for yourself.

Whatever rocks your boat o.

achorladey:
It is called you no go ever get sense peddling on nairaland.

Wetin concern God's will with my question?

Nothing na.

You are trying to discredit JWs for applying Jesus's teachings in their midst and I'm trying to show you the practical benefits and how it aligns with God's will.

Oh I'm gonna see you reiterate "you no ever get sense peddling peddler" for long.

achorladey:
The war between the house of Saul and the house of David lasted a long time. David grew stronger and stronger, while the house of Saul grew weaker and weaker.
During the war between the house of Saul and the house of David, Abner had been strengthening his own position in the house of Saul.
Ask cornelboy
Are those involved in wars above Jehovah’s witnesses or not based on their teachings and doctrines?
Their response will be interesting

What is it called when a Christian Russian soldier kills another Christian brother in Ukraine, God's will?

OLAADEGBU:
You still don't get it. We love ourselves and our enemies with the love of Christ. We break the bread of life and share the gospel truth unlike the lies you share among yourselves.

You love yourselves in evil even as thieves and drug abusers love themselves, what's the difference?

This the same love going around in your church filled with pagan doctrines like trinity and burning people in hell fire.

tctrills:
So he came to save give or take half the world and the rest of God's children are beyond his saving? You really believe that God could not save half of his children?

Lol.
Even some people who lived during Christ time on earth and after his ascension till now won't be saved if they don't believe.

So Christ sacrifice can't work for them when they dead. The conditions is clear na.

You think everyone is God's children? Both the wicked and righteous ?

The discussion is: Should we love our enemies even during a time of war? I hope you address this.

We don't fight wars so that we could obey Jesus's commandments about loving our enemies, neighbours, friends.

The latter.

JWs are the only ones worshipping Jehovah in TRUTH dude.

The Holy Spirit governs the Church because He bought it with His own blood.

Yet the early church had human leaders.

You are not only brainwashed you've been programmed to parrot their heresies and you cannot help it unless you become heart washed with the blood of Jesus.

Speak for yourself that believes in a.... wait, pls is it 3 in 1 or 1 in 3 god?

See as ona turn god to yeye.

You've been brainwashed not to believe in the Triune God, the Only True God.

Eyah, no matter how you say it, three persons can't be one GOD. No be me talk am, na Jesus and Paul talk say only the Father is the one GOD there is.
Nobody believed in any triune gods before Jesus came and the early church didn't after he left.

Certainly not the faulty governing bodies who are leading you all to the pit of hell.

Hell means the grave.
Your pastorprenuers are carrying you to heaven abi?

For more on the subject at hand click on the link below and stop your distraction.

How would God feel when a Christian Russian soldier is killing another Christian brother in Ukraine?
Shebi Putin is fighting for the triune gods abi?

OLAADEGBU:
https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2022/april/russia-ukraine-war-evangelicals-orthodox-views-putin-prayer.html

The last time I told you to bring evidence of defending the trinity doctrine. Your you no go ever get sense peddling still look for it.

Sorry you really think I'll do that for you. I'm smarter than that man.
Common denominator

Don't tell me you don't believe in trinity and the JW belief about God, one person. You wanna stand on the fence again to save face?

I am Achorladey and not the person you want to go on social platforms or forums like nairaland to make ENEMIES of people for no reason.

Lol. For no reason huh?

What have been doing to helping otenearon from his unbelief?
Cos whatever you've been doing ain't working.

When Jesus enter one sinner house, salvation entered the house na.

It is on record you said you didn't see anything.

That means you're blind, you don't have eyes?

I remember and still remember you said you didn't see anything.learn!

Yeah you make your eyes purpose blind to the TRUTH.

The you no go ever get sense peddling peddler, I am not expected to report my activities to you here on nairaland and you already said you didn't see anything. Pele ti e. Others can see what I am doing

People that don't believe God exist right?

Oga cornelboy, Na me comot for that religious organization you are a member of

Really clap for yourself.
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That's why you need to apply the you no go ever get sense to where it is required.
Your brothers in Jehovah have many problems with it. The reason they call people who create threads like this workers of LAWLESSNESS or INIQUITIES. Get to infuse this into your memory.

Lol. You've lectured me many times that nairaland is a land of freedom. So why complain when JWs comes to a thread that didn't even belong to you?
Pls no dé take things personal. E no good for your health.

It is your you no go ever get sense peddling that cause you not to follow the discussion. Even after addition of screenshot as evidence. Go and ask your brothers in Jehovah regarding things pertaining to those you and your likes call APOSTATES here on nairaland. It is not complaining, it is simply giving you the dose of your medicine. It is a trap you have fallen right in it.

Rat trap or what clown?
So is that why you said always?
Like they always create threads bout you (apostates) and how often do they do that?
Your obviously lying. Just admit that you made a mistake and apologize.
JWs were never supposed to relate with apostates but they actually respond to you guys cos of innocent individuals that their heart yearn for the TRUTH.
If you can't do God's work, don't hinder it.

This is nairaland not cornelboyland

Every sane person here knows that.
It's a free world here.

Who is the HE? Answer that first.

MaxinDhouse
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achorladey:
Loooooooooool
Good you know that.
The assumption, speculations and suppositions remain. Lobatan.

The hard fact you don't want to accept is that the the JWs are still involved in numerous immoral practices that includes murder, death of their own members not to talk what they to others not their members. These practices involves prominent members paapaa.
Apply this your you no go ever get sense here. In simple terms, Jehovah’s witnesses don't go to war yet news of members killing one another exist.
It means terrence words is only on the realms of assumptions, speculations, and suppositions not reality.

Bobo laugh all the way you want, seems you couldn't comprehend simple English. Your palaver.
Nobody claimed that the whole world is JW.
But if everyone was a JW, there won't be wars cos JWs generally don't fight them.

Now do JWorg teach their members to kill, do they teach them to practice immoral acts?
No!
Did Jehovah or Torah taught David to covet Uriah's wife and kill him?
No!
Didn't Jesus warn Peter of denying him 3 times?
Did he later deny him?
Yes.

Make ona go figure the rest out.

OLAADEGBU:
I know that you are here to parrot the 'truth' your governing bodies brainwashed you with. Jesus said you cannot serve God and mammon and you have chosen who to believe as your final authority which is your governing bodies who cannot save your soul.

Face discussion na.

Do JWs worship JEHOVAH or the governing body?

Don't the early church have those governing them?

I wasn't a JW from birth bro. So there's no way I could be brainwashed.

I was only brainwashed to believe that Jehovah needs two other gods to make him complete as God.

Who do you want to follow, Jesus, the apostles, Paul, and the bible OR the uninspired old dead men of Nicene and the subsequent councils and the Roman Catholic?

OLAADEGBU:
The Church of Christ is not confined to a local assembly as you have been led to believe.

How do you guys love yourself in your church, any difference from the way thieves and prostitutes love themselves?

tctrills:
But you seem to be saying that his sacrifice cant save those that lived before him. Meaning he did not die for the whole world.

John 3:16
[16]“For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.

John 17:3
[3]And this is the way to have eternal life—to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth.

Christ sacrifice can't work for them when they are dead.