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achorladey:
What is MaxInDHouse doing chasing those he called APOSTATES all over nairaland on their thread

Is he thirsty like the Rich Man?

What is he doing with workers of lawlessness?

You no go ever get sense. Why are you apostates always creating thread about those that call you workers of lawlessness?
Why are so restless on the JWs matters, ọnà dé seek revenge?
Why don't you guys just move on?

achorladey:
MaxInDHouse what are you doing on an APOSTATE thread?
Are you thirsty like the Rich Man?

Tell US to ask questions that suit your agenda so you can water your tongue and thirst. You respond to two monikers before I post anything here.

Learn!

Why do you come to JWs threads?
To eat the leftovers and crumbs like the dog at his master's table?

oteneaaron:
Lol

You ain't seen nothing yet.

Your already on your road to destruction already, leave person wey dé serve him Jehovah.

JWs the cult that is completely following Christ teachings and the pure Bible doctrines and honouring Jehovah's name.

That's the cult everyone should belong.

What are the Catholics and other denominations doing?

Even otenearon that is an athiest is talking

Na only Jehovah witness be Christians?
Why ona no dé talk about Catholics wey dé worship a mere woman Mary

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus is the commander in chief of all the heavenly forces! Matthew 25:31

So as the most experienced soldier in the whole universe Jesus knew that the best form of DEFENSE is ATTACK. But how do you attack an enemy who has kept his/her hatred inwardly without any move?
Jesus commanded us to go and me them in their homes to dismantle that seed of hatred Satan planted in their hearts {Matthew 10:11-13} by so doing we will conquer those with conscience among them and win them over to the side of the Prince of Peace. Such individual will no longer be interested in going to kill his fellowman again over worldly politics.
This is what Vladimir Putin noticed in the activities of JWs that made him labelled us as extremists (terrorists) he realized that with our preaching and teaching no Russian will carry weapons to go and kill their neighbours.

Now imagine if all the religions on the planet are Jehovah's Witnesses, how will this planet be?

"By their fruits you will know them"
Only JWs have these fruits as a whole. Peace, love....

Hismasterpiece:
Heaven for those who repent and believe the gospel

What about those that didn't hear the gospel? And those that existed before Jesus brought the good news?

What about those Jesus was referring to in John 5:28,29?
Why didn't they go to heaven or hell, why did they remain in their grave if they were spirit?

Lazarus Jesus friend, where was he that 4 days he was dead before Jesus raised him through God's power? The grave/hell, heaven or hell fire?

Lemme remind you again. There are two different words that were translated to hell in the Greek new testament;
Hadēs which simply means grave or She'ôl or hell.
Geenna/Gehenna which means something different to Hadēs. It's the name for a dump site situated outside Jerusalem. It was only used by Jesus like 11 times in the four gospel books.
It figuratively describes a place for the wicked and sinner.

You have a lot to figure out bro.

Hismasterpiece:
So you don't believe men are spirits? Who live in bodies?

Genesis 2:7 KJV
[7]And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Man is just physical body made with clay. Nothing more. The breath of life from God aka spirit gives us life.

Before JEHOVAH breath life into Adam, he was just a lifeless body lying on the ground, that was just him.

Job 33:4
[4]The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.

Ecclesiastes 12:7
[7]Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

For everyone both righteous and unrighteous, wicked and good, when they die, the spirit or breath of life from God that gave them life automatically leaves them, they become lifeless, dead and return to dust.

Think of it, if Adam didn't sin he would be living forever. He would be here today, all of us would be dancing around naked eternally here on earth.

Man was created with physical body to live on earth, nothing more.

Adam wasn't a spirit being and he died. He's not existing anywhere now. It's not different for us their descendants.

Yeah.

OLAADEGBU:
Should Ukrainian Christians love their Russian enemies, even while fighting against the Russian armies?

Now you see how the Jehovah witnesses are better than any other religion?
They were practically able to follow Jesus's commandments and teachings about LOVE.

I can proudly say that no JWs in the Ukraine and Russia war had raised weapons against his neighbours or enemies. Cool

No matter what, a true Christian must not kill. He must always depend and trust JEHOVAH for his safety even in the face if death.

Jesus never gave us conditions to love.

God bless every JWs wherever they are!

Emusan:
Nobody sees it as wahala except you
That's what the scripture says
You're welcome for your time.

Lol olodo ni é.

Just Genesis 2:7 is enough for your dummy brain to understand that Adam was just a physical lifeless body made of clay before Jehovah gave him life by breathing into him.

The breath is same as spirit. We all got our life from God's breath/spirit through Adam.

When Adam died, what happened?
The spirit/breath left him and he became lifeless, decayed and returned to dust.
This is same for everyone that died, even Jesus, but God raised him back to life. He didn't let Jesus's body decay before he did.
Acts 2:31
[31]He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left
(dead) in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

Genesis 2:7 KJV
[7]And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

When Adam died, he became a dead soul.
That's why God said that every soul that sins will die.
Ezekiel 18:4 KJV
[4]Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

Animals and human have the same life. I mean we got our life from the same source, the breath of God

Genesis 1:24
[24]And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature (NEPHESH) after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

The same Hebrew word NEPHESH was used to qualify both man and animals.

Genesis 2:7 KJV
[7]And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul (NEPHESH).

Ken4Christ:
The men of old had limited knowledge of the truth. Now Jesus is the truth. And he tells us that the dead are conscious. You can't believe the creatures more than the creator. Please update your knowledge and upgrade.

The story of the rich man and Lazarus is enough to let us know that the dead are conscious.

Besides, Jesus said they will be weeping and gnashing their teeth day and night in hell. How can an unconscious person be weeping?

The rich man and lazurus was one of the parable Jesus taught his disciples. It wasn't real.

Ken4Christ:
The dead are conscious. If they are not, how did Jesus got the keys of hell and death from Satan? Revelation 1:18

How did he descended to the lowest part of the earth? Ephesians 4:9

How did he go to preach to spirits in prisons? - 1st Peter 3:19.

Ecclesiastes 9:5
[5]The living at least know they will die, but the dead know nothing. They have no further reward, nor are they remembered.

The dead are not conscious.

Ken4Christ:
Who can stay alive under water for 30, minutes talk more of three days? Read Jonah 2 very well. Verse 2 said he cried from the belly of hell. Is there hell in the fish belly?

He was locked up in a cell with bars - Jonah 2:6. Are there cells in the fish belly?

Sorry Jonah was literally in the stomach of the fish.

Hismasterpiece:
Hell is a place of torment for sinners.

What about for non sinners?

Hismasterpiece:
Your watchtower has done you strong thing. When the Bible talks about the lake of fire it isn't being metaphorical. This is where God has caught you. You are able to wave off the doctrine of hell by saying that Jesus was being metaphorical when He taught about it and I can understand that.

But you can't use the same metric for the lake of fire because the Bible never talks about it from a metaphorical standpoint.

Also, spirits can't die. Think deeply about that. Annihilation-ism is never taught in scripture.

Spirit can't die? Funny question.
Didn't God really mean it when he said Adam and Eve would die and return to the ground?
Did their spirit continue live?

Okay can spirit burn in fire?

Can fire have any effect on Satan if he would be thrown into a literal fire?

Emusan:
Were you blind when you quoted my post?
because if you're not you should see this

2 Corinthians 12:4 4 who was caught away into paradise and heard words that cannot be spoken and that are not lawful for a man to say. NWT

Jesus went to heaven that same day, or wasn't He committed His SPIRIT to Jehovah?
Read Bible you won't.

So His spirit He committed into His Father's hand was where, in the grave with Him?

Lol. So the thief spirit was also in heaven with Jesus spirit that same day Abi?

So when Jesus was resurrected to life, his spirit was still in heaven with the Father?

Can spirit or breath of life live without a body?

See when a person dies, he dies completely. That's it. No part of him lives elsewhere.

Keep believing in fantasy.

Emusan:
Your opinion!



And it correlate with your wrong idea of life on earth



What is he saying here Mr Sense?



Ode.... comparing heaven and Aso rock



You said below that it's God who will choose the people will go to heaven, yet saying here now that, it's my pride that makes me think, I'll rule with Jesus in heaven and to crown it at you said "Na you then de find"

So if you claim as you don't know who will be in heaven earlier, how do you know I'm not the type God will choose?

Can you see how nitwit you are?



Thanks for let us know you're Jehovah to have known I don't have Holy Spirit.



So God will choose people from ALL CORNERS OF THE EARTH yet you can boldly say I'm not the type needed



How does correlate with my pist



Of course I'm doing which is the reason you here on this thread.



Your opinion

You have the holy spirit Abi, sebi your born again na? Na you go lead the kingdom don't worry foolish and arrogant people.

Holy spirit wey ona no get, ona go dè claim am. It's pure Satan deception sha. Na evil spirit fit de make person speak gibberish tongues not the holy spirit of the early church time.

God will choose only from bornagains i.e poeple baptized by the holy spirit.

Emusan:
Ask him he's your father
Anyways, you're not the first lying liar JWs
That's not where our discussion about Satan started.
Still jumping like kangaroo
Yes! You're not okay
The spirit of your father the Devil isn't in my so I'm not a liar like JWs
E pain am
Denying time has come
Lying liar, check from the beginning of our discussion.
I didn't! Since your brain is too dull to comprehend things, that what is causing you this body painment now
He is the leader of JWs
Me and your father the Devil have nothing in common.
Says Mr sense whose skull is full of dust

Your the liar here dude. I don't really have your time. The devil is practically your father cos he's the father of lies.

When God said Adam would die if he ate of the fruit, he lied and said they won't die.
Religion today is telling the same lies of old of their mentor and father Satan the devil. They would say if you die, you didn't actually die but continue to exist after death. Una dumb o.

MaxInDHouse:
You don't know OLAADEGBU, he will be running away from one point to another once he noticed you've exposed his ignorance.

Jesus died but before his death he begged the one who is able to SAVE him and he was heard due to his Godly FEAR! Hebrews 5:7

That is enough to tell any sincere person that Jesus was raised by someone who can SAVE Jesus from death!

It's been a while

OLAADEGBU:
I'll leave you with a post that has dealt with your objections for the sake of those who want to know the truth.


https://www.nairaland.com/2655453/jehovahs-witnesses-cult-exposed/5

Okay keep defending the uninspired doctrines of the old dead men of Nicene council.
Sebi you like the doctrines of men than the Bible pure doctrine no wahala na.

God himself;
Deuteronomy 6:4
[4]Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

Jesus himself;
John 17:3
[3]And this is the way to have eternal life—to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth.

Paul the spirit filled apostles of the gentiles;
Ephesians 4:6
[6]one God and Father of all,
who is over all, in all, and living through all.

1 Corinthians 8:5-6
[5]There may be so-called gods both in heaven and on earth, and some people actually worship many gods and many lords.
[6]But for us,
There is one God, the Father,
    by whom all things were created,
    and for whom we live.
And there is one Lord, Jesus Christ,
    through whom all things were created,
    and through whom we live.

Acts of the Apostles 2:36
[36]“So let everyone in Israel know for certain that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, to be both Lord and Messiah!”

Did God says he's three in one or triune?

Did the apostles and the early church believe in trinity or triune God?

Is it not blasphemy to say God the Father of all needs two other persons to make him complete as God?

OLAADEGBU:
The Triune God has no beginning.

Who's the triune God?

Emusan:
And what is your problem with that?
Imagine see nonsense talk.
But you claimed everyone will go to grave.

So what will God raise if the body has rotten and nothing survive it?
What fits this your description is RECREATION which Bible never talked about.
Your obsession with what RELIGION SAYS today is what is keeping you in perpetual bondage of slavery to those 8 lying old men in Warwick.
Yet religion is doing great for Jesus winning more souls than your demonic organization couldn't achieve for over 100years.

John 5:28
[28]Don’t be so surprised! Indeed, the time is coming when all the dead in their graves will hear the voice of God’s Son,

Dude does it matter if the person has died and decayed completely or he just died 2 days ago or died like 20 years ago or 2000 years ago?

Can't God raise him even if every part of him had decayed long ago?

Pls tell your have baked knowledge to someone else. Your just an empty barrel.

OLAADEGBU:
Do you believe the scriptures that say that Jesus created all things? If yes, when did He do this?

John 1:3 NLT
[3]God created everything through him,
    and nothing was created except through him.

Jesus created every creation for God.

Colossians 1:15 NLT
[15]Christ is the visible image of the invisible God.
    He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation,

Questions you should ponder on;
1. Did Jehovah GOD have beginning? Did God start existing or he is all there all along from eternity to eternity?
2. Did Jesus his son have a beginning, didn't he start to exist at a point in time?
3. Are they co-eternal like Trinitarians say?

immortalcrown:
I began to argue with you because your post says Jesus lied to the thief.

That's why I reiterate that you should read my post from the first post carefully and focus on the contents not the topic.

Most Christians don't want to accept the JWs view on that verse. But only the JWs interpretation is coherent.

Antiislaam:
Quran 19:33

Muhammad Ahmed & Samira

And the security/peace (was) on me (on the) day I was born, and (the) day I die, and (the) day I be sent/resurrected/revived alive

WHO IS SPEAKING IN QURAN 19:33?

A. Muhammad

B. Allah

C. Jesus

D. Gabriel

E. None of the above

NB: Choose the best answer from the options given, No super story.







Shey your father and allah has power to resurrects you?

Jesus Christ resurrected on the third day because he has the power, he is not a criminal like muhammad that was sent to òrun arèmabò

Ona no go kill me for this nairaland.

immortalcrown:
Instead of you to say various Bible translations have errors, you claim Jesus lied to the thief.

Sorry bro. Jesus didnt actually lie. It was error that the translators made.

immortalcrown:
I am sorry for my mistake. I have looked at the questions again. Each of them is correct. My own question now is, which of those statement did Jesus use? Between A and B, which one did Jesus use?

The early manuscripts of the Bible didn't have punctuation marks. It was later that punctuation marks were introduced into the Bible by Bible translators.

In that particular verse we are discussing, the comma was actually placed wrongly before today.
"I assure you, today you'll be with me in paradise".

Jesus didn't go to paradise that same day but was in the grave and even after resurrection, he spent another 40 days on earth with the disciples before going to heaven/paradise (let's say paradise is same as heaven)

Only the NWT Bible of the Jehovah witnesses put the comma after today. It only makes sense this way.

"I assure you today, you'll be with me in paradise".

It means that Jesus was giving the thief future hope that he will be raised up in the future and live forever in the new world that will be ruled by Jesus the King.

immortalcrown:
The B question is senseless if the comma where it is.

No it's not.
The A is actually senseless and incoherent.

Jesus didnt go to any paradise that same day but the grave or hell.

OLAADEGBU:
Jesus was begotten not created. He existed before He was begotten of the Virgin Mary. Give that to your Watchtower society to ruminate about.

God had no beginning. But Jesus has a beginning. First God beget/created Jesus and created everything else through Jesus. He's the first born of creation.
Jesus was created in his Father's image. It means that God already is before Jesus was created in His exact image.

immortalcrown:
You typed exactly the same thing as your A and your B questions. The only thing you changed is the position of comma. Check if you made a typographical error.

Didn't the placement of the comma change the meaning of the verse?

achorladey:
The same poster said

Me I don't know the Christ he is talking about

It is because most of the time you read without learning or understanding what you read. The challenge by oteneaaron was towards whom on this platform?

Make I see you backtrack now. Learn.



Later you will come and LIE and DENY your intentions are not for me to make ENEMIES out of them. Awon bad association spoils useful habits. When posters here don't dance to your tune, they are bad associations.

Your learning and comprehension skills while reading is theWHY.

Me I am still looking for the Christ you are talking about here below

Thank God you no be the Jesus I DENY . I for don enter SECOND DEATH niyen.


Even the Jesus words palaver you carry for head. He(Jesus) knows when to open his mouth to talk and when not to talk.

Una case na just to open mouth WAAAAAAAAAAA and be calling people using the upper lips of his mouth to call people COWARDS, APOSTATES, ATHEIST, RIDIUCULERS and still use same mouth this time lower lips to call them CHRISTIANS or the SOLE BODY OF CHRIST.

All of us go learn for this nairaland.

Your brother in Jehovah MaxinDHouse remember the usefulness of Romans 10: 9 when the challenge started. It was then he wanted recognise those he called and always called FALSE CHRISTIANS as TRUE CHRISTIANS

The same poster said

Your inability to decipher sarcasm is quite alarming.

Me I don't know the Christ he is talking about

Face me and talk na.

It is because most of the time you read without learning or understanding what you read. The challenge by oteneaaron was towards whom on this platform?

So why couldn't you give answers when we asked you what your opinion is?
We know you need save that face of yours.

Me I am still looking for the Christ you are talking about here below

Well Jesus talked about some false Christs that will arise.

Pls otenearon and tctrills help me quote where achorladey answered this question;
Is God one person or trinity?
Maybe my eyes are no longer functioning well.

Ken4Christ:
Jehovah witness lie. The dead are conscious. Jonah's soul was conscious the three days his lifeless body was in the belly of the fish. This was why he was able to narrate his story. If he was completely unconscious, he would have no story to tell. He would have asked those around him to tell him what happened to him.

Lol calm down. Jonah wasn't dead in the fish belly. He even fasted in the fish belly.
The fish vomited him out alive.