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New Commander at Multinational Joint Task Force (MNJTF), N'djamena, Chad Maj.-Gen Abdul Khalifah Ibrahim. Guess he has more work to do now, clearly BHT/ISWAP terrorists are scampering for safety from the North-East to his command Area of Responsibility (AOR).

Odunayaw:
My bro didn't antagonize SA and speaks well of the battle of Bangui?

TGIF!

I've been consistent on the tactical response of the South African SF guys in Bangui. And no one at least professionals who takes the death of any soldier in combat lightly. A sad event to see.

Whatever antagonism implied with regard to South Africa and Bangui has been geo-political and strategic in nature which again I have always blamed on President Zuma and the military hierarchy in Pretoria along with those Southies here who refuse to see the light attempting to play it down and with which to this day I still have reservations and I've been clear on that. Those who follow me know what I think of them. I've always maintained South Africa has the SF units and have stood up some battalions in recent times able to do the job when called upon even if not enough.

Anyone who had failed to glean this fact in my posts must have read with bias, ulterior motives or not at all but then ran off to the gallery.

kabe1:
I have hardly seen South-African special forces on deployment using optics on their rifles.

It is very rare, probably a cost factor.

These stock photos and Getty images show authenticity of these pics but the interesting thing is clearly these guys look serious and ready to go. They are obviously heavily armed and the choice of rifles too shows taking no chances. You can see even the armour of the gunner on the heavy is packed with extra mags. This is war and they mean business to redeem their image and prowess. I doubt they will go back without kicking some b.utts.

We might have being too hard though when we talk of Bangui but a lot of it had not much to do with the Special Forces guys on ground who I actually think gave a good account of themselves under duress but the political and military leadership back in Tshwane who sent in guys without the minimal compliment to hold off until help arrived either by elements within the neighborhood or from home something which is still much of the problem faced by the SANDF today as we see with funding. Just hope they won't fail these guys in Mozambique with the adequate assets needed

About the rifle optics I doubt it has anything to do with costs they can afford it. I think it might have more to do with their own special forces doctrine. The key here would be to know the SF units from which these guys are drawn, their training and combat, what other SF units exist in the SANDF to gauge their competence just like we have the NNSBS and their doctrine of warfare, the NAF Panthers and their tactical operational doctrine, the various NA Special Forces units some a bit more discreet.

Generally a special forces operator can be distinguished from the regular soldier by the self confidence of their weapon handling, nothing tense, sort of casual, relaxed albeit alert at the same time able to bring his weapon to bear and hit bulls eye targets with optics or no optics. These guys seem to fit the bill.

Wishing them the best. The more help we get against islamafascists terrorists the better.

kabe1:
South African Special Forces in Mozambique

Just as anticipated. Not the Rwandans. The expectation is they should surge and dominate the area hibernated by terrorists. There should be a difference when they do at least as expected. They have the units to do it.

Is this pic authentic Kabe1

ECOMIG & NAF Armed Aggressor Fighter Jets Salute The Return of President Barrow With Victory FlyPasts Over Banjul, The Gambia


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY-a_p-lZX8

ECOMIG & NAF Armed Aggressor Fighter Jets Salute The Return of President Barrow With Victory FlyPasts Over Banjul, The Gambia


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY-a_p-lZX8

Toju200:
calm down

make we talk true na

Show of force: Nigeria fighter jets fly over Gambia’s Airspace

January 19, 2017

Nigeria’s fighter jets have been flying over The Gambia as West African regional forces continue to flex their muscles ahead of a military intervention to oust former President Yahya Jammeh.

Jammeh has refused to step down for the swearing in of President-elect Adama Barrow.

Jammeh’s fourth five-year term as president expired at midnight on Wednesday but he has refused calls to step down following his defeat in last month’s elections.

Lamin Njie a resident of Lameng, a small town several kilometers from the capital Banjul told the African Press Agency that fighter jets have been flying overhead since the early afternoon.

Lameng is a few miles from the country’s only airport in Yundum, African Review reported.

Deal of the day
Noting the same experience on his Facebook page, Kebba Sanneh a resident of Gambia’s biggest town Serrekunda wrote ominously: “This war is almost here…I can hear fighter jets hovering overhead fast as they circulate and disappear into the horizon towards the Atlantic. Call it warning but there is high probability that the skies over this little republic will be busy in the hours and days ahead…..”.

Although The Gambian military has no known fighter jets, there were reports of anti-aircraft guns being positioned in the approaches to major towns and barracks.

Aside from jets Nigeria’s newest warship had been deployed to the waters overlooking State House in Banjul where former President Jammeh appears to be holed up after rejecting a last-ditch attempt by the Mauritanian leader to persuade him to step down.

Meanwhile as Ecowas ground troops amass inside the Senegal border to the north and south, the streets of cities and towns in The Gambia remain eerily deserted and quiet throughout Thursday as civilians stay indoors amidst a sense of angst over a likely invasion.

kabe1:
This is not correct at all.

What did West-African nations do in Gambia then?

There was a naval, air and land blockade.

Your comment is simply not correct.

You bet by now NAF fighter jets would be over flying Cabo Delgado sending the fear of God into the hearts of terrorists of what's to come.

tutudesz:
Are you forgetting ECOMOG

In reality ECOWAS is possible because of Nigeria both in politics, diplomacy & military. Nigeria is a greater hegemon than South Africa which is why President Nyusi of Mozambique would dare call in Rwanda on a bilateral basis. That wouldn't happen in ECOWAS sub-region.

However its still expected of South Africa to take the lead in combat something they've shown intent to do going by their deployment and funding because if those terrorists by nature start getting all sorts of help from ISIS that Rwandan deployment will begin to leave a sore taste in the mouth they simply don't have the resources. The whole deployment by both Rwanda and SADC is still lacking the full compliment of adequate air cover which ECOWAS through Nigeria would have sent in.

kabe1:
What thing or two can ECOWAS nations really learn from this deployment, because I don't see it.

Was surprised reading that up there. Actually the reverse is the case. They have nothing on ECOWAS. Have they been impressive in deployment, I didn't expect any less at least they are professional military organizations, nothing extraordinary except this is the first of it's kind at this level by SADC something ECOWAS has had a lot of experience in doing for a long time. Much still remains to be seen.

So far the Rwandans are the combat teeth paid for by the French. South Africa should be taking the lead role in combat not Rwanda, till then there's nothing spectacular here in the SADC deployment but just showing the flag.

DubaiLandLord1:
You expect me to read this long wailing from you?

Please no derail this thread. You don create telegram group, go dey post pictures and videos for there and stop all this unreadable lamentations.

You sound pained and incoherent. Sorry you forgot to take your meds last night

DLD the chief derailer of Nairaland asking those posting on point to go elsewhere. Hypocrite, you are beneath Nigerianess.

How far is your juju wielding Sahara Reporter commander-in-chief doing so far it has not gotten him off the hook in the courts
And you are his follower, eyah, what a shame.

Nostradamus1:
Nigeria is a sovereign nation and the Department of Justice( together with the attorney General will decide how to arrange a deal with the US government that will not harm Nigeria's sovereignty if Kyari is guilty according to Nigerian courts.)
After all, the US disregard the ICC which most youths clamoring for Kyari's extradition, overegard( You should be concerned about US disregard of an International court not Nigeria's disregard for a fellow country like US)



Back again, can u share links from Vanguard and co about how KANU's arrest made Igboland peaceful and valuable again for business . How it reduced violence leading to less checkpoints at Niger Bridge enabling "containers " from Lagos to offload. How goods from the North area coming freely without fear of harrrassment from Tomato thieves.( I have actually seen the news but for the benefits of people who read only ur post)

A good one. I had refrained from mentioning DLD's forever shock to NK's classic rendition because the effect has been served. I mean this guy was dumbfounded and in awe. All the ranting about NK suddenly turned into hot air

DubaiLandLord1:
Suspended Deputy Commissioner of Police (DCP) Abba Kyari has deleted the rebuttal he issued to dismiss his indictment of criminal conspiracy by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).

The FBI while probing a popular internet fraudster Ramon Abbas popularly known as Hushpuppi indicted Mr Kyari as receiving about N8 million to arrest a co-conspirator on the orders of Mr Abbas.

While denying involvement and declaring himself clean in the fraudulent deal amounting $1.1million, the now suspended DCP said he received a call from the fraudster who alerted him to a threat against his family members residing in Nigeria.

He said after arrest and investigation, he found out that the complainant lied and he released the man arrested. [/b]He said after that, the complainant saw one of his native outfits and got connected to the designer on request in a deal amounting N300,000.

His account though rhymed, differed from that of the FBI reproduced here, showing the full conversation between him and the fraudster who has pleaded guilty.


In a related development, TODAY POLITICS observed that the embattled police officer has now deleted the rebuttal posted on last week Thursday on his verified Facebook profile after editing it twelve times.

[b]In one of his edited versions, Mr Kyari removed the narrative where he claimed to have connected the embattled fraudster to a said fashion designer and replaced it with another incident which he said occurred last year.

“He (Hushpuppi) also called for another case in June 2020 and complained about a financial transaction with a second person whom he said his friend sent 8 million naira to and pleaded for his friends money to be recovered. He sent transaction slips and other evidences to prove their case against the person, All these can be verified from the Hushpuppi since he is still in Custody. And it can be verified from person who collected the 8million naira from Hushpuppi’s friend whom they complained about is alive and is in Nigeria,” the last version of his rebuttal monitored by TODAY POLITICS read before being deleted.


Attempts to reach him on why he deleted the rebuttal was not successful after severally refusing to answer his calls and responding to text messages sent to his known phone numbers.

Source: https://todaypoliticsng.com/fbi-indictment-abba-kyari-deletes-rebuttal-after-editing-it-12-times/

Only God knows how this man became a DCP.

And how does this have to do with military stuff. This is not a police thread. We all know the NPF is corrupt and not worth a bucket of war.m spi.t. Please tell us something we don't know. Obviously you have a full time job here.

Some of you just posting what has no relevance to the topic on thread without an aside or temporary excuse and yet complain about Nigeria not working whilst you are exactly the reason Nigeria is not working. Simple regulations on a public foray you can't keep yet relishing the misfortune of another man in public for yet unproven allegations in a court of law even if he smells of corruption. If the military is not your forte then excuse us. Nairaland is free go open another thread.

Those countries you sing there songs one reason their system works is because their citizens follow rules and regulations even on a private forum. If you have a WhatsApp group and tell people don't post external materials watch out if someone does he's most likely a Nigerian. Haba na wetin dem do us so kai.

NN Sea Rescue Over Treacherous Waters


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAOqVQ0AZ4

Toju200:
the first pics is a Z10
While second is The Rooivalk

Stand corrected

Nigerian Army

GabrielYulaw:
I don't have your kind of confidence in the Nigerian people. We have the attention span of a housefly and if anything sensitive is released, most of us will have forgotten all about it in less than a week.

Hmmm, dunno if history proves you right

GabrielYulaw:
The Mi-35M is not a dedicated attack helicopter though. The Mil Mi-28 might be more suitable, with our troop transport needs being handled by the Mil Mi 8 or 17.

The Mi-35M in addition to other roles is a very good attack helicopter and one of the best in the world with proven track records however it is for an Air Force to operate not an Army same goes for the Mil Mi-28 which is also a very good dedicated attack helicopter in the mould of the Apache helicopter. The AH-1Z is basically a Tucano with Rotor blades. That's what the Army needs as back up for troops. All North-East Theater Commanders have wanted this aircraft.

bidexiii:
Why can't the NA even go for this attack helicopter platform

His it a good platform, guys what's your view on this

Good platform but too expensive, too few in number and no sustainable production line to aid maintenance. No the Mi-35M is way better.

The Nigerian Army needs something more in the mould of the AH-1Z. And they need it fast. That's the missing link in their COIN operations

bidexiii:
Wow....
Thanks mate for these.
https://beegeagle./2010/12/12/nigerias-best-kept-military-secret-5000-troops-fought-in-angolas-first-civil-war/

So the Nigerian military tried to keep this from the public as a secerete.

Actually there are so many secrets still not declassified. I doubt the Nigerian people would have gone along with it if made public. Governments often have to balance between domestic realities and foreign policy. All successive Nigerian presidents have been guilty of these secretive missions including the current one. But it's not common to Nigeria alone other foreign powers are guilty of same. This is why a lot of the intelligence and security votes are classified and not actually known. No one knows exactly what's done with all that money. I'm not even sure the president does.

RiceProducers:
You don't know Nigeria was sending plane load of arms and money to Angola?. C-130s were shuttling quite frequently. Nigeria's leaders then were young officers fresh from a civil war with a pan Africanist political bent.

After Cuba, Nigeria was the hero of the liberation struggle.

Put quite succinctly but I'd say Cuba's involvement was more in terms of men but in terms of money, weapons, logistics and training, intelligence and diplomatic weight and support (liberation heroes traveled on Nigerian diplomatic passports and had permanent resident permits to live in Nigeria) Nigeria trumps the card. Without Nigeria Southern African countries would have taken a lot longer to be liberated from white minority rule.

bidexiii:
Wait,
Why are they been displayed in Lagos ?
Was the Nigeria military involved in the Angola war ?
Please where did you get the picture

It was a trophy display by the Angolans who were fighting the behemoth of the apartheid regime at the time. Lagos because Nigeria was the major financier supporting numerous freedom fighters for independence in Southern Africa both materially with clandestine military forces and advisers and also was a political and military counterweight to apartheid and nuclear armed South Africa at the time a powerful military force in Africa. The picture is in public archives. No secret.

https://www.nytimes.com/1975/12/19/archives/angolans-in-lagos-display-2-captured-south-africans.html

https://beegeagle./2010/12/12/nigerias-best-kept-military-secret-5000-troops-fought-in-angolas-first-civil-war/

You have to believe it this Rooivalk attack helicopter is made in Africa, in South Africa. It actually meets the test just beset by South Africa's lack of political weight and costs.

Captured Apartheid Southie Soldiers By Nigerian Troops Sent To Lagos And Paraded Before The Media During The Angolan War.

French Jet Crashes In Terrorist Hotspot of Northern Mali - French Military

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/aerospace-aerospace/french-mirage-2000-jet-crashes-in-northern-mali-military-says/

French Jet Crashes In Terrorist Hotspot of Northern Mali - French Military

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/aerospace-aerospace/french-mirage-2000-jet-crashes-in-northern-mali-military-says/

French Fighter Jet Crashes In Terrorist Hotspot of Northern Mali - French Military

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/aerospace-aerospace/french-mirage-2000-jet-crashes-in-northern-mali-military-says/

bidexiii:
S U P E R T U C A N O!

The Federal Government has said it would be launching the six Super Tucano fighter aircrafts purchased from the United States by next Tuesday, August 3 2021

Lai Mohammed actually said that for the Federal Government but NAF hasn't said a thing when it will be inducted into service. The thing dey baffle me sha that plane should have been venting its anger since like last week with some GBUs and APKWS with clear video BDAs given for us to celebrate and forget all the bad news.

We dey wait sha, Tuesday August 3rd loading

CaptainStephen:
Nice words but this is basic stuff na.

They do these type of sorties very well.

Thank you. I doubt it would rest the case sha. Our people have gotten so used to mediocrity. You might want to say that again for education

Toju200:
Calm down with this your hyping guy shwoo

Which hyping Toju Pikin no fine im Mama like am abi pikin com fine im Mama dey celebrate sey make una come see ooo im over fine

I bet you that is how all the others would have written it. But that up there is no hype, if it is then the US and all others are hyping however nothing to show for it. You get the point now.

Coolliot:
This is most likely a training exercise....that's a ship, ships carry boat, ship and boat can see the victim, why wait for helicopter from long rain to do what boat and ship can do. Come to think of it, some of this Augusta helicopters are more than 20 years. I think we would be getting the bigger aw139 as time goes on.

No it was not "likely a training exercise". And what is with you guys, always complaining. Those Aircrafts are in very good condition. They are meant to last a number of years and certainly more than 20 years. And yes as time goes on they get what they need. Haba, instead of celebrating the prowess we all see it's to poke holes here and there. I bet you if this was in South Africa Defenceweb will publish it with all the ullalabos and y'all will sing along the chorus but I bet probably no Nigerian publication will publish this feat talkless to celebrate it. Do you guys think it is moi moi to even land helicopter on a warship before you talk of sea rescue. The sea conditions at the time made the Navy helicopters appropriate for the rescue and the Ships captain is in better position to make that judgment or do you want the boat to capsize. A vessel was stricken because of the waves and they sent helicopters in time before arriving on the scene. What's with our psyche really in Nigeria. The whole fallout of political malfeasance has ill affected any sense of national pride or Nigerian values.

komekn:
Its all very well ranting and making noise like erring schoolboys. But at least let there be some semblance of rational if not substance to your propositions.

So, lets do a perfunctory summary of these air forces that you have dismissed with such unguarded disdain and make comparison with esteemed and the absurd claim of NAF unrivalled domination in sub Saharan Africa. Just one proviso, we are looking at offensive attack aircraft primarily.

Kenyan Air force -23 F5E Attack jet aircraft and 12 short Tucano CAS. 6 Cobra, 7 bell UH1 and 45 M500, 13 Puma 330, etc approximately 100 attack/ utility helicopters.

Sudanese Air force – 20 F7, 20 SU 25, 20 Q5, 12 SU35, 10 Mig 29(refurbished and upgraded locally by Sudan) etc total jet attack aircraft approx. 100. Sudanese air force attack aircraft incl. helicopters: 43 Mi 24/35, Mi-8/17/171 26, various others total attack helicopters close to 100. UAV's 50+ Iranian and Chines various.

Finally, COIN turbo prop aircraft with precision guided munitions, the single engine similar to A29 Tucano is Sudan’s SAFAT-03. Locally manufactured since 2015. See pictures below.

Ethiopian air force – 20 SU27, 10 Mig 23, 10 L39, 40 attack jet fighter aircraft. Helicopters attack / utility 8 Mi24 & 14 Mi7 total 22.

South African air force – Saab Gripen 39 26. BAE Hawk 23, total 49 attack air craft. Attack/ utility helicopters 12 Rooivalk, 43 Oryx (puma 330) Augusta 109 25 total 80. SA produces a lot of air craft components and as well as its own air craft so its impossible to really know their true inventory of aircraft.

Angolan air force- 80+ attack jet fighter aircraft 13 SU30,12 SU25, 12 SU 22, 45 MIG 21/23 and 6 A29’S. Attack helicopters Mi-8,17,171 = 66, Mi 24/35 = 14, Gazelle 8 and other variants approx. total 100+.

The unrivalled most superior air – force in Sub Saharan Africa the NAF; Attack aircraft Alpha jet 13, F7 (Chinese Mig. 21) 9, JF7 Thunder 3, L & MB339 12 and turboprop A29 attack CAS 6, Total attack aircraft 37. Attack helicopters and UAV’s; Mi-17/171 -5, Mi 24/35- 15, various others 16. UAV’s estimated 8.

So can some people stop smoking strong weed and being delusional and have a reality check. In the cold light of day can we say the NAF is comprehensively superior to any of the afore mentioned air-forces.

You know yourself you are suffering from the early stages of dementia. And why not go and work for CNN best at setting false narratives.

All these mischievous guys with multiple monikers you can actually do something better with your lives rather than ventilating your frustrated and ignorant lives in public.

After hyping vintage aircrafts of your beloved "powerful" sub-saharan African countries you went on to castigate Nigeria's by your carefully chosen degrading incorrect designation of the aircrafts. You are silly, s.ick and high on a new brand of contaminated weed you can't help. How further demented can someone be to go so low like all the other fake news outlets and their minions like you and the lone arrogant deluded Southie still gasping for air here that can't stand the reality of a true giant of Africa.

First and foremost most aircrafts are developed from prior aircrafts save mostly for the United States, Germany in consortium with France and the UK or in some cases Russia that would invest money in R & D for a whole new generation concept of fighter aircrafts.

You carefully designated the aircrafts of those poor countries you mentioned except South Africa to make it high sounding, modern and powerful. I will not join you in that charade. Because that's the joke of the century.

But here are the salient facts: First they are not in the numbers you mention except on paper. Most of them are inactive. Many of them don't meet the specifications necessary to have the advantage in air warfare. Two people can drive the same BMW doesn't mean they are of same specifications. Nigeria's A-29 Super Tucano is not same with that of Mali. In fact Nigeria's Super Tucano is among the most advanced 4th generation Aircrafts in the world for a turboprop, learn to ask why that is so.

Now in summary let us correctly designate the Nigerian Air Force Fleet. We have the JF-17 Thunder not your mischievous J7, that's only in your mind and apparent bitter hatred for Nigeria. The brand new NAF JF-17 Thunder has a beyond visual range and stand off weapon delivery capability with MFDs display and data-links. No sub-saharan Air Force apart from Uganda's Su-30s has BVR but then with no air-to-ground capability and suffering pilot drain.
The NAF JF-17 Thunder comes with what some experts call the world's most advanced air-to-air BVR missile that gives NAF fighter pilots the capability to fire from any angle of attack without having to visually see or get behind enemy aircraft to hit the target with certainty.

The J-7 is the designation for the F-7 still in Chinese PLAAF service and still in use with many air forces world over. It is not your vintage Mig-21 rather the modern version of the Mig-21 from which the Mig-29 and now Mig-35 evolved. The Nigerian Version F-7Ni has a more modern avionics, cockpit, air-to-air and air-to-ground capabilities and versatile for air interdiction and pin-point air defence with excellent turning rates. Try go up against it!

The work horse Alpha Jets of the NAF is more than 13 in number even after some losses due to attrition. The NAF continues to make available this aircraft for sorties round the clock. It has suffered high attrition rates because of its rugged use in active combat over the years from Liberia and Sierra Leone to the Niger-Delta against MEND, The Gambia and now on a daily ground over the North-East against terrorists and in the North-West against bandits. Experts think differently than you think, what they see is a versatile Air Force that can indigenously make available parts for an aircraft that is no longer in production and be able to employ same in air combat duties. This is not known in any other sub-saharan Air Force presently. Those who claim they do we have no evidence nor intelligence they can bring it to bear in actual combat which has proven true in their own domestic quagmire.

Then we have the L-39s which were not intended necessarily for combat when Nigeria bought them but also now employed in combat operations after being retrofitted. Nigeria is sending some of it's other fixed wing aircrafts for upgrades and maintenance overseas while others are done domestically. In addition to that the NAF is acquiring more modern aircrafts on a pace no sub-saharan African nation can match in the short term. Another important factor for the NAF is human capacity which is unrivaled in Africa.

The nations you mentioned is laughable. When you say Sudan and that grandiose you mentioned what comes to mind is Iran telling us it is producing a fighter Jet are you calling us nuts! You need to be sent back to kindergarten. This is the Sudan with all its hardware typical of any Arab Army can't stop the secession of South Sudan which trounced it back and forth until it achieved independence. Neither could Sudan quell internal insurgencies except sending its Janja.wee.d militia to rape, kill and pillage in Darfur until UN peacekeepers came in.

Then you mention Ethiopia that was taken to task by tiny Eritrea with obsolete weapons and now your mighty Ethiopia is begging for a ceasefire from it's own Tigray people. You must be kidding us. Where is all their Sukhoi jets you reeled out. Please the joke is on you. The same goes for all the other nations you just mentioned. South Africa got spanked in Bangui by rag tag rebels and fled for safety even begging the French to come save them. Dem no born that country well wey try Naija, you know how we do we go roast them for fire. You can't even try it cos the Nigerians will keep coming until its dignity is acquitted for.

Please stop putting Nigeria in the same category as those nations you mentioned. I only just mentioned some fixed wing aircrafts with which we are doing wonders not even our modern rotary aircrafts some of the best in the world not even Africa and then UCAVs also among the best in the world and number one in all of Africa and then satellite and defense intelligence unmatched and unrivaled which gives us the advantage of first-see-first-kill capability in the event of war. This is just the NAF and beyond all that we have the money and the intelligent set of people to prosecute any war anywhere in Africa even with all our internal wahala to its logical conclusion. When the US tell you Nigeria is the most important country in Africa they know what they mean and that's not because of oil but its people.

Take your child school antics elsewhere.