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Sizzorkay:Isn't it interesting the rebels haven't even come out to say they did which is uncharacteristic of rebel or terrorists groups. They would want to cash in on that publicity and drive the narrative, they didn't yet the press is buying that one sided story of events. This should concentrate minds. |
JOSCOFELIX:Sounds a lot like conspiracy theories. France appear to lose with Deby's death but it raises a whole lot of questions why didn't they intervene and allow Deby to go to the front if those reports are true, why would they when they could easily halt the advancing rebel column with precision strikes. It might be a game of cards to complicate matters for Abuja in the war or Abuja knows something and would prefer a new leadership in N'djamena. Niger knows its future lies with Nigeria not France a declining power. This whole thing could get some perspective if Nigeria decide it's time to end French hegemony of Francophone West Africa and it can but with a war on its hands it might not be prudent to do so now rather maybe better to employ clandestine means and ECOWAS mechanisms like the Eco currency to achieve those ends. It can also guarantee presidential security for pliant states. That is one way to weed these states off France. |
SamuelAnyawu:Yes the combat theater of Borno generally is a risky place as troops conduct CT/COIN operations but I think if the President of Nigeria wants to visit he will visit but at an enormous cost of moving men and materials in place. He has visited Maiduguri. So was Jonathan before. About N'djamena I think there's more than meets the eye and it's not about security but President Buhari's absence is symbolic to say the least and does not match his eulogy of Idris Deby Itno who committed his troops to the Boko haram war. |
Nigeria beefs up border to avoid Chadian influx – defence minister Nigeria has reinforced its border security to avoid a potential influx of Chadians following the death of Chad’s leader Idriss Deby, the defence minister said on Thursday. Deby was killed on Monday in a battle against rebels who had invaded from the north, plunging the country into turmoil. “When we heard of the death of the Chadian president…the government took action immediately. We beefed up security on our borders with Chad, not to allow the influx of Chadian refugees into Nigeria,” said Bashir Salihi Magashi, a retired army major general. Only Nigerians from Chad would be allowed into the country, he told reporters in the capital Abuja. Nigeria is trying to deal with its own problems. It is battling with mass kidnapping and killings linked to a decade-long Islamist insurgency in the northern part of the country that has displaced thousands of people in recent years. “We are on top of the situation and we believe that African countries and international organizations will soon come together to find solutions to the problem in Chad as expected of them.” Deby’s son has taken over as president and the armed forces commander and dissolved the government and parliament as rebel forces threaten to march on the capital. https://www.defenceweb.co.za/security/border-security/nigeria-beefs-up-border-to-avoid-chadian-influx-defence-minister/ Inset: Rugged Nigerian Army Combat Troops
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Another poignant question in the Chad controversy or conspiracies depending on which side of the divide you kowtow is why was President Buhari not present at Deby's Funeral in N'djamena. I like slam dunk intelligence though rare they don't come prepared on the table you sometimes find them hiding in plain sight. "Someone may have gotten tired of someone" Inset: Nigerian Navy Anticipated Landing Ship Tank. A major platform for power projection.
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Anyone notice Nigeria's current defense minister is a hands on approach serious minded official. Watching the trends I haven't seen in a while a defense minister quite like him in Nigeria's recent history. I mean this guy is on the ground leading from the front with the Service Chiefs. There's more I could add but suffice it to say the defense minister bid his time with the former Service Chiefs, had enough and recommended his team to the President got them approved and now working in synergy with the NSA. The winner here if things pan out according to plan is Nigeria but moreso the current National Security Adviser. He didn't exactly see eye to eye with the former Service Chiefs hampering efforts to win the war. Inset: Nigerian Air Force 4+ generation JF-17 Thunder Multi-role Fighter Jet seen in flight
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The question no one is asking is what was Marshall Idris Deby Itno doing in Abuja a little over a fortnight ago and then killed shortly after under murky circumstances depending on which version of events you believe. Whose interests? Inset: Nigerian Army New VT-4 Main Battle Tank
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bidexiii:When you are doing the right things it brings you the respect you deserve. NNS Lana is a beauty.
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LTGEN:Something for the lobbyists and planners to chew on. Not just a platform primarily for one mission but for the full spectrum of naval warfare. Focus should also be on a modular design to accommodate for the changing times. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1rg3Qa3FpU |
In modern times the transforming of a country into a great power has traditionally coincided with the development of a powerful navy. The prestige associated with the Battleship led many countries to invest huge amounts of money into weapons platforms that they neither needed or in many cases could afford. A very good documentary series on the history of the platform can be found here. What made the acquisition of these weapons so attractive was that they were seen as an expression of national power. In much the same way, nuclear weapons, nuclear submarines and aircraft carries now act as expressions of national power. It need not matter how old the carrier, the possession carrier is seen as mark that a state is important, that it is formidable and needs to be taken seriously; at least by those states that want to acquire them. As a result, states with little or no desire to project power, can end up fielding expensive carries and nuclear submarines. Culled from Prestige And Naval Power https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU5jlUKrvEs NNS Thunder Departing Sydney Australia |
In modern times the transforming of a country into a great power has traditionally coincided with the development of a powerful navy. The prestige associated with the Battleship led many countries to invest huge amounts of money into weapons platforms that they neither needed or in many cases could afford. A very good documentary series on the history of the platform can be found here. What made the acquisition of these weapons so attractive was that they were seen as an expression of national power. In much the same way, nuclear weapons, nuclear submarines and aircraft carries now act as expressions of national power. It need not matter how old the carrier, the possession carrier is seen as mark that a state is important, that it is formidable and needs to be taken seriously; at least by those states that want to acquire them. As a result, states with little or no desire to project power, can end up fielding expensive carries and nuclear submarines. Culled from Prestige And Naval Power https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU5jlUKrvEs NNS Thunder Departing Sydney Australia |
ugo4u:Hypocrites not unexpected. Given the circumstances even powerful African nations are lining up for stability. We face a mortal enemy up north and dealing with the devil maybe one of the few options. Though I don't see a long term future for the younger Déby Itno in N'djamena. |
bidexiii:Guess u mean can't wait. You bet can't wait either not least for the prestige it brings too. And since the idea is to replace Aradu as flagship it can't come with anything less of the full complement of armaments for all spectrum of advanced Naval warfare. Whatever comes should have cruise missiles to shut down any doubter in the region. |
Anticipated induction of new frigate to enhance the war fighting capability of the Nigerian Navy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cUMrmlc240 |
Anticipated induction of new frigate to enhance the war fighting capability of the Nigerian Navy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cUMrmlc240 |
Yagz:Excellent view points. We agree on the salient points. However I respectfully disagree that the "Nigerian Navy in its current status is a well equipped Coast Guard service". The Navy's recapitalization programme is well within it's short, medium and long term acquisition goals. However in its current state it possesses an array of advanced vessels and assets for maritime operations short of missile armed boats. I'll be brief as we tend to agree beyond matters of designation. Aerial warfare is not conducted alone or possible only by surface to air missiles and sonar is one aspect of underwater warfare. When I have time I'll put up I hope enough open source information to support this analysis. The stealth features of the NN P18Ns afford it some significant advantages in combat and the ability to approach within effective range of its precision guns. Denmark is a maritime country and it is only practical for it to deploy a frigate class ship at such distance something the Nigerian Navy has also excelled at with port visits to Australia with its Frigate class of ship NNS Thunder albeit without the missiles. All said Nigeria is on track to meet expectations and yes you are right the South African Navy and in general its military wounds are self inflicted with low level skilled officer cadre. The SADF was a pride to watch. I'll make further submissions but we look forward to Nigeria acting its size on the world stage. |
JOSCOFELIX:Yes and No. You use languages that confuse them. Most here won't comprehend capacity or the difference with that and capability. I go this length to say that because it is you. You love your country but most people here don't take too kindly that it is a plausible reality for Nigeria. But they are stealth, capable of surface, air and underwater warfare and can be quickly retrofitted with missiles in a high intensity conflict with a peer Naval power. However we are not going to be chasing pirates with expensive to maintain frigates on a lean budget. The P18Ns are very adequate and great assets. Actually OPVs are the darling of Navies worldwide and we have them. |
LTGEN:Everybody would love to see more prestigious ships in numbers but there is not the political will in Nigeria. When you have a political class or a president in the mould of Shehu Shagari then possibly but right now it is not feasible. If you were to be a defense planner you would act based on what you are given based on the threat envelope you face factoring costs overheads which explains lack of missile ships presently. Yes, the proposed frigate is a plus either way. |
Yagz:It is an aberration to say Nigeria has no Navy but a Coast Guard. Nigeria does have a viable Navy the largest in West Africa by number of ships, tonnage and personnel with more importantly increased hours at sea and the necessary assets for contemporary threats which reflects positively on its leadership, capacity building, priorities, planning and manpower resources. It should be accurate to say the Nigerian Navy begun a recapitalization programme from inside out rather than from outside in. Having missile frigates or submarines is prestigious but it is not exactly what defines a Navy. The Nigerian Navy is following apace on its modernization programme with available resources at its disposal and doing so in my estimation decently with recent acquisitions of modern vessels in their class and if the trend continues will have the assets in place to put it in an enviable position in sub-saharan Africa something Senegal with its potential FACs can't match and don't have the resources to do so. Contrast this with the South African Navy which without capacity went for prestigious valour frigates without ASW capabilities and subs without the necessary skilled set leaving you a near moribund Navy more in port than at sea. The South African Navy is now following on the heels of Nigeria's acquisition choices though not too decently whilst the Nigerian Navy is on course for the attainment of its geo-strategic and national security imperatives in the Gulf of Guinea. The P18Ns are modern OPVs capable of surface, air and underwater warfare. They have more tonnage than those of Bangladesh. If the Nigerian Navy wanted missiles on them they would but that would mean more costs for maintenance and other factors quite unnecessary for the tasks they are meant. The OPVs are part of the medium term acquisition goals of Nigerian Navy planners. Patrols and been at sea are more of importance to a Navy than prestige assets docked in port without the resources to engage them. As for the North Africans they have a different threat envelope and are arming accordingly. |
With all the challenges in Nigeria the Armed Forces is still doing well carrying on with its strategic modernization plans and is now the recipient and destination of the largest foreign and local weapons acquisitions programme in sub-saharan Africa since the latter years of GEJ and continously under GMB. Congratulations to the Nigerian Navy for acquiring this brand new beautiful hydrographic vessel. It truly deserves accolades. A Landing Ship Tank is also on the way giving the Navy a strategic Sea Lift and power projection capabilities. Fair Winds NN.
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JOSCOFELIX:Military planners always plan especially as threats evolve. We can't buy the bait of ISWAP. I did say earlier ISWAP would do something specifically with Damasak to grab the headlines and they did. The one surprising thing and this might be a shock is I expected them to try harder enough. It is not in their psyche to quit until something gives. Their challenge so far is the presence of the dogged Nigerian Army Super Camp and their commanding officer a Brigadier General with the confident military swag who appearing on camera in the town psychologically defeats every repeated ISWAP onslaught. ISWAP must be surprised at the turn of events but I won't put it past them to attempt another wave maybe elsewhere. Watch out for infiltration of moles. |
Valkrie:The A-29 Super Tucanos will make a difference. That is if you get them I must add. I'm not sure any military expert can put a timeline any longer on this war based on purely military means alone. There appears to be sinister forces beyond the control of the Nigerian state. To put a definitive stop to all forms of terrorism in Nigeria, Abuja would have to mobilize all of Nigeria's national industrial power base to move the war to the corner of a certain impoverished African country and there contain the menace of the islamafascists terrorists until snuffed out. |
Beautiful Boat
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Stormtrooper11:We are since past the stage of centre of gravity in this war. That had already been done under GEJ. Any said space of non-state actors is fluid meaning it is untenable for the enemy and they know it. If any centre of gravity exists it must be beyond our shores. To undertake certain military tasks you need certain assets in place else you might just be fishing for the moon in the water. |
Sizzorkay:Quite simplistic, ISWAP are skilled fighters willing to die and know the antics of war followed on the heels by BHTs. Everything in the book of CT/COIN has been tried on these rampaging islamafascists terrorists including snakes but they have proven adaptive and innovative. Fighting them on their terms is suicide which is one of their modus operandi. To defeat this mortal enemy you must be creative & do the unthinkable in the art of war. The Nigerian military as a modern, professional and superior fighting force should be choosing the place and timing of well planned combat not the terrorists hence you keep playing into their hands and expending precious men and material. |
This is significant for Naval operations. The NN is modernizing from inside out very important owing to our complex creeks and waterways and then the Gulf of Guinea which should lead to the next phase of a full fledged Blue Water Navy with sea going missile Frigates and deadly quiet submarines. The NN must be commended for having increased its presence at sea more than any other Navy in sub-saharan Africa and that by far. The coast guard version of Nigeria NIMASA is also upping the ante with modern acquisitions. NIGERIAN NAVY TAKES DELIVERY OF NEW OFFSHORE SURVEY VESSEL NNS LANA The Nigerian Navy today in Saint Nazaire, France took delivery of its first ever purpose built Offshore Survey Vessel, NNS LANA. Speaking at the Flag Transfer Ceremony, the Honourable Minister of Defence, Major General Bashir Magashi (rtd), represented by the Chief of the Naval Staff, Vice Admiral Awwal Gambo stated that the new vessel was conceived as a replacement to the previous NNS LANA, a survey ship that was decommissioned about 10 years ago. Major General Magashi (rtd) who was the Special Guest of Honour at the event added that the occasion marked a great milestone in the fulfilment of the dream of not only replacing but, enhancing Nigerian Navy’s survey capability. Importantly, the new vessel is expected to fill the void created following the decommissioning of the previous NNS LANA. Highlighting the import of having a survey vessel like NNS LANA, the Special Guest of Honour said that survey services and charting waterways play a crucial role in ensuring safe navigation as well as delivery of maritime security. Hence, NNS LANA will not only enhance the safety of Nigeria’s maritime environment but the ship will serve as a critical component in the projection of naval power for enhanced maritime security in the Gulf of Guinea. It will also play a critical role in protection of maritime resources and preservation of law and order at sea, thus contributing significantly to promotion of global maritime commerce. He therefore specially thanked the President, Commander-in-Chief of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, President Muhammadu Buhari for his commitment towards the recapitalization of the Nigerian Navy Fleet. The Honourable Minister also thanked Nigeria’s Ambassador to France, Her Excellency Dr (Mrs) Modupe Irele, the management and staff of Messrs OCEA and all others who have contributed one way or the other towards the change of Flag Ceremony. Again, he congratulated the Commanding Officer, Captain AB Mahmud and his ships’ company as the pioneer crew of the brand new masterpiece as she begins her voyage into the seas. Further speaking at the event, the Honourable Minister explained that the choice of Messrs OCEA by the Nigerian Navy to construct the new NNS LANA was based on its impeccable track record of high quality ship building capacity as well as the belief in the Company to adhere to agreed time lines. Suffice to state that the construction of LANA by Messrs OCEA is much more significant bearing in mind that this has been achieved despite the disruptions caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. Hence, Major General Magashi (rtd) congratulated Messrs OCEA for this feat. He equally noted with delight that the acquisition of NNS LANA brings to 18 the number of OCEA platforms in the Nigerian Navy’s inventory and also the Company was recently awarded the contract to construct a 35m Hydro boat to complement NNS LANA. Notably, the construction of the Offshore Survey Vessel 190 MKII (NNS LANA) commenced in December 2019 and the project was divided into 4 major milestones which were: the completion of the deck molds, completion of hull blocks, hull assembly on the main deck and the delivery and installation of the main engines at the shipyard. These milestones were the benchmarks which determined the level of work achieved at each stage of the project. The building process was successfully completed and the Ship was launched on 24 September 2020 at Les Sables d’Olonne, France. The new Ship with a visual call sign A499 was named NNS LANA apparently conceived as a rebirth of the former Nigerian Navy Ship LANA (A498) which was decommissioned. The new NNS LANA (A499) is designed and purposely built to enable the NN conduct hydrographic and oceanographic surveys. It is also capable of conducting geophysical studies, search and rescue operations as well as patrol duties. The Ship is equipped with state-of-the-art modern survey equipment as well as a well-equipped 7.6m surface vehicle for shallow water surveys. Furthermore, the Ship has an Automatic Weather Station (AWS), wet and dry laboratories, scientific and technical workshops as well as operating and processing rooms for survey data. The machineries include 2 x MTU engines, 3 x CAT main generators/one emergency generator, electric propulsion system and other auxiliaries. The electric propulsion which is operated at survey speed is particularly installed to minimize distortion of data due to machinery noise. The Ship has a maximum speed of 14 knots and a capacity of 50 crew. NNS LANA was handed over to the Nigerian Navy in France on 15 January 2021 after the provisional acceptance trials was concluded. The crew training commenced in January 2021 and ended on 12 April 2021. The change of flag ceremony marks her readiness to embark on her maiden homebound voyage to Nigeria. Expectedly, NNS LANA would join the Nigerian Navy Fleet in May 2021. It is envisaged that the rebirth of NNS LANA would afford the Nigerian Navy Hydrographic Department the leverage to successfully and systematically conduct hydrographic surveys and charting of Nigeria’s waters. It would also afford Nigeria with the opportunity of keying into the General Bathymetric Charts of the Oceans (GEBCO) Seabed 2030 project and the Global Multi-Resolution Topography (GMRT) synthesis project which would ultimately facilitate Nigeria’s accomplishment of its obligation under SOLAS Convention in accordance with President Muhammadu Buhari’s deliberate and sustained policies on maritime safety and security. Dignitaries at the event included the Nigerian Ambassador to France, Dr Modupe Irele, the representative of the French Navy, Vice Admiral Oliver Le bas and the Chief of the Naval Staff, Vice Admiral Awwal Gambo, who represented the Honourable Minister of Defence. Others were the CEO OCEA, Mr Roland Joassard and representative of the Ministry of Defence, Major General Benson Akinroluyo.
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Whyem15:Something I had said a long time ago which makes strategic sense at least for some time. Export the war elsewhere, this is what big powers do. The US is comfortable with terrorists running amok everywhere except on the homeland. Nigeria has managed to push the war to the fringes of Borno and the Lake Chad islands, there they can be cannon fodders for the Army. President Jonathan was comfortable with that knowing the enormity of the enemy in BHT we are fighting and succeeded in getting them out of Abuja and much of the North. If we won't talk to moderate elements of BHT at this stage of the war they've been severely degraded then bring the big guns out or work to completely export the war totally out of Nigerian territory. |
Sizzorkay:Sahara reporters is a propagandist outlet, discard |
Sizzorkay:Yes, literally not sarcasm. Their works speak for them. Perfomance is the right yardstick to judge any military not paper tigers who buckle under pressure. The plethora of conflicts in modern times resolved by the Nigerian military both home and abroad through the use of force and military diplomacy is unsurpassed in Africa. |
DubaiLandLord:BHT terrorists and ISWAP that was declared the most deadly terrorist groups anywhere in the world. What the Nigerian military accomplished against them within its means has been acknowledged by every military expert as extraordinary even the United States intelligentsia except of course naysayers and haters on Nairaland. Bokos come to die not to fight. |
EricBraven:Bravo |
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- South Africa purchased Four Meko 200 'Valour Class' frigates and 3 Type 209 submarines in the early 1990's. The truth is that South Africa had the capability to maintain and operate these vessels but because of 'BEE' (i.e. black empowerement ) issues the capable 'white' officers and men who could have operated these vessels pending the gradual training of black personnel, where eased out of the navy. Recall that during the 'Apparthied' era, the South African Navy operated submarines and Frigates. Thus in my humble opinion, South Africa's problems as far as the operations/ maintenance of their capital platforms are concerned, are self-inflicted.
NNS Aradu (our current Flag ship) for all intents and purposes has been reduced to a training vessel with all it's missile capabilites removed. The newly acquired NNS Lana is a Hydrographic Survey Vessel and is not armed.