₦airaland Forum

omohayek:
And here we have another Obi supporter, living up to all the stereotypes. How many converts are you expecting to win over through ad hominems? How does calling me a "hater" answer any of my questions about the man and his movement?


Really? What are those plans, and where can I read up on them? And how is it a mark of "integrity" to break the law by setting up hidden accounts in offshore tax havens, 4 years after becoming governor?

No facts, just insults and bald assertions in flagrant contradiction of well-attested public evidence. Thanks for providing such a vivid illustration of everything that is wrong with your sham of a tribalistic campaign masquerading as a political movement.

I don't need to convince you.
I don't even want to convince you.

The man has a track record. Go and start from that.

omohayek:
None of them. I consider it the height of madness to pick a candidate based on tribe or religion without knowing what the candidate stands for and how he or she plans to achieve said ends. I'm waiting to hear what the candidates' actual policy proposals are, how they intend to pay for them, and whether they can be trusted to follow through on their promises if they win.

Atiku's plans for deregulation and privatisation sound very appealing, but the man himself has such a shady past in such matters that I don't know how much I should believe anything he says. Tinubu's desire to widen the tax base and massively improve education spending are also very positive steps, and he's also made clear that he will finally get rid of the idiotic multiple-exchange-rate scheme, but I worry that he will otherwise leave intact most of the statist bloat that Buhari has put in place. As for Obi, he is the only candidate who has yet to say anything concrete whatsoever about what he plans to do differently if he gets the presidency, and he has the additional challenge of explaining how he plans to achieve his plans in the face of two NASS chambers that will be in the hands of the APC and PDP - what is to stop them from frustrating his every proposal as America's Republicans routinely do to Democratic presidents?

If Obi and his supporters were providing detailed, plausible answers to questions like these, I might have had some reason to think of him as something other than the same old wine in a new "Labor Party" wineskin of convenience. Instead they content themselves with fabricating quotes, picking stats out of context, ignoring glaring evidence of Obi's past misdeeds, and insulting people with tribal epithets, as if Igbo votes alone could win him the election. The irony is that the one candidate this year who seemed to have all the right answers to Nigeria's questions was also an Igbo man - Moghalu - but his campaign never got any traction with the same lot now pushing Obi as a "genius" with a supposedly saintly character? Why is that, especially when they say they want new blood with fresh ideas?

Guy, you are just a hater.

Peter obi is the only person with a plan and has the integrity to back it up.

I have realized that a lot of Nigerians think if they vote for a bad candidate, only the opposition would suffer.

IPIGSRHYPO:
Rubbish noise about Peter Obi-tuary that will not even win a single local government not to talk of a state.

And who loses when advanced crooks take over?

Is it Peter obi the wealthy man or who?

I don't think you realize who stands to lose most.

plaindealer:
If every businessman shipped their money away to hide abroad with zero taxes paid to Nigeria, this country go don vaporize.

You poor man is paying taxes on your small change while Pandora run to go hide his own $15 Million without paying 1 kobo in taxes to pay salary, build road or bridge here in Nigeria

Sometimes I just wonder about people like you.



How old be this one, What kind of talk is this..?



They saw him when he opened his pandora account and even sabi how much dey inside..

Comedian..




How exactly do you pay taxes on money hidden in a foreign jurisdiction?

Dude, abeg confine yourself to primary school argument.

You are creating stories out if thin air.

Peter obi does not evade taxes. That is a crime.
Tax evasion is a crime.

He pays taxes on businesess he has in Nigeria and the same to the UK.

He already submitted his tax returns to the FIRS when they asked for it long ago.

What Peter obi did was tax avoidance.
That is not a crime.

Tax avoidance is minimising taxable loopholes in your business.

Moving funds to a tax Haven is a part of tax avoidance.
You are reducing a loophole that can increase your tax burden.
It's not a crime.

The crime is when you EVADE to pay taxes on your legitimately and compulsorily taxable income.

That girl on orange no wear pants truly.
SHe came to a show wearing a half dress without pant??

Lord have mercy.

plaindealer:
Parking money inside a secret bank account is now transparent and of good quality.

Is it possible for something to be secret and transparent at the same time? Do you even know what you are talking about?

Is dodging taxes that you must pay in Nigeria a good and transparent quality?

People like you cry about bad roads, no water, electricity, and so on, but people like crooked and unpatriotic Oha Pandora are not paying taxes in their massive wealth to build the roads and bridges that they walk and drive on.

Obi Pandora is crooked, corrupt and an unpatriotic leech on society.

He is a businessman.

An importer long before he entered politics.
He has businesses in the UK and was recently invited by the UK govt for a dinner for business owners in the UK.

Its not secret account. You just did not know.

The relevant authorities know about it.

His taxes are up to date. He already submitted his tax returns dating back more than 10 years to the FIRS.

What a useless sentiment.

I will waste my vote for peter obi.

It's better than wasting it for atiku or tinubu.

plaindealer:
Meanwhile, Obi Pandora laughed ll the way to his secret foreign Pandora tax-dodging account..


Sad..

Now I know you are trying to defame him.

Transparency has become a bad quality?

How many of your leaders can come out and be that transparent?

Why are you painting good as bad?

You think he has not been probed by the efcc?

plaindealer:
Buhari and Tinubu are not the reason why Nigerians are not drinking beer, our young folks and middle-class folks are not drinking beer like their fathers and rand fathers, they drink wine, Vodka, Champagne, Hennessy Whiskey, and so on, this is what you see on the table when you go to events, parties and weddings, you hardly see beer on the table.

Beer is going out of fashion and it's not Buhari's fault.

Abeg, come up with a sensible excuse for your poor investment choices,

And instead of changing direction like properly managing the investment against risks and downturns, they left the investment in that company unattended, they did not pay attention to losses and the fact that they are not getting dividends and return on investment for their money, they did not diversify, but Buhari is responsible for their poor choices and incompetence.

Peter obi left office more than 8yrs ago. He did his Job by securing for his state a profitable investment.
He and his the immediate past governor are not on very good terms. And peter obi is not a godfather that rules after he has left office.

As much as we can blame the immediate past governor for not carefully monitoring the investments(they call him a drunk afterall), we can not divorce buhari from the main fault here.

That old guy messed up our macro economics. Investments suffering across board.

The only person with the least fault here is peter obi.
While his mates were looting, he was investing for his state.

That is a good leader.

If you are a tinubu or atiku supporter, sorry, good leaders like peter obi is beyond your scope.

You should argue with your fellow supporters of corrupt politicians.

You have no credibility to demand for anything better than the crap you are supporting.

The bar is so HIGH FOR peter.

For other politicians, as long as they don't loot our money too much, then it is okay.
We would elect them.

For peter obi, not only does he not loot, he has to prove the quality of his investments.

The same people that are supporting corrupt crooks in tinubu and atiku are the ones holding peter obi because of an investment he made for his state that is profitable in absolute terms.

Just like hundeyin said, you are a backbencher student getting D-, but you are asking the A- student in the front why he did not get an A+.
It's ironic and laughable at the same time.

omohayek:
Why should I be "bitter", when I know that Obi's candidacy has about as much chance of succeeding as Nnamdi Kanu's fantasies about going to Abuja to remove "Jubril Al Sudani"? Your attempt at rebuttal is as unconvincing as the OP's: whether it's $5 to $100 million or $20 to $100 million, the reality is that the current financial value of the investment is wildly different from that, and even if the claim had been true for some few days in 2018, it's being used to campaign for Obi in 2022 - and is therefore a falsehood intended to mislead about Peter Obi's supposed investment wisdom.

If Obi were really the investment genius you and his other supporters wish to make him out to be, he'd have been publicly pushing for the incumbent Anambra government to cash out the investment before the shares went into freefall, but instead he chose to boast about their value at the time, as if he thought the share price would always stay that way (or he imagined no one would ever ask him in future about his past boasting). It's no sign of brilliance to have an investment that peaks at some stratospheric value for a few days and then comes crashing down, as all the cryptocurrency fanatics are currently learning the hard way.

The bottom line with Obi is that his candidacy is largely substance-free hot air, being pushed by aggressive lying and threat-making. Obi offers no concrete policies that set him apart from Atiku and Tinubu, and he is at least as compromised by corruption as Atiku and Tinubu (who, like the Obi fanatics say of their god, has never been arrested by the EFCC or convicted by the Nigerian courts). The only genuine selling point I see for Obi is the one his supporters are least ready to admit to (at least while they aren't attacking "Afonjas", "Yoruba Muslims", "Foolanis", etc.) - he happens to be the only Igbo man currently running for the presidency. That's it, the rest is all dishonest puffery.

so who is the substance -full candidate you are supporting?

Let me give you a chance.

Peter obi is applying the same tactics he used to win governorship on a newly formed apga that had no structure in the state then.

Go directly to the people, appeal to them, and let them be your structure.

Underrate him at your peril.

kayperry:
what could be possibly fake about a poster, is it the cost or printing machine ... Atiku campaign did more 2019 buh however keep up the obi spirit its makes democracy intriguing

You are comparing atiku to peter obi?
The same atiku that crashed his own camapoign by claiming he wants to sell refineries and nnpc?

If not for peter obi that was still in his ticket, the guy for too lose.

People trust peter obi, even atiku's children don't trust atiku.

The only reason why peter obi would lose this election is if the apc parts of the north vote like they have never voted before for tinubu.

And that is not a guarantee.

But I am sure that this election will enter run-offs.
No candidate will win a clear majority on first attempt.

dominique:
It seems a lot of obedient people are first time voters. They're just carrying the candidate not the party. Most times the party logo is absent or hardly visible in their campaign. They think they will go and thumbprint next to Peter Obi's picture or name on the ballot paper. Ask them to pick out his party logo out of a long list of logos placed before them, don't be surprised if 6 out of 10 of them won't be able to identify it.

I don't think that is a problem.
As long as they are convinced they want to vote for peter obi.
They can always find the political party.

Atleast, they know it is not pdp or apc.
Even in the polling unit, they can always ask around for the party that peter obi is running on and vote.

FlyingKing:
I hope those of you shouting PETER OBI every seconds, minutes, hours, day,night,etc have PCV because I have never see anybody that win election online in Nigeria.

And instead of abusing other candidates why not use the energy to promote your candidate in a good manner without abusing or bring other candidates into it.

I remain myself and I pray for better leaders in the coming election.

But other people can abuse Peter obi and his fans?

You are a hypocrite.

That's Buhari state, yet bad governnace did not escape them.

Keep voting for ethnic or religious reasons.

Tinubu in ekiti openly told the electorates in Yoruba that " to ba te ka, lo ma te owo".

Meaning that, It's when you vote that you will collect money.

A brazen act of vote buying.

No respect to the law and the people.

No decency, no morals.

How can you entrust the future of your children to such a fellow?

We have no choice but to be obidient.

Buhari is about to waste another $550m on power sector, right when he is about to leave.

No doubt, it is a looting spree.

We need Peter obi more than he needs us.

The alternatives are criminals who would make Buhari look like Lee kuan yew.

SlyfoxxjReturns:
Hahaha. Don’t mind the Aboki. His brain has reset to campaign mode forgetting his time is almost up. When I first saw the headline I thought it was even one of the candidates saying it.

The moment apc finished their primaries, governnace had ended.

Buhari is now on an vacation mode.

All the apc stalwarts would be going more frequently to bourdillion and lesser to aso rock.

And since the apc stalwerts are the ones in govt right now, it means our seat of power has moved to Ikoyi.

When Peter obi was going to Egypt,some animals were clowning.

One clown even said we have enough electrical engineers as if Nigeria's problem is a lack of talent.

Well, I guess Buhari did not use the electrical Engineers you want him to use in 8yrs.

Egypt doubled their power generation in one single term of Muhammed Buhari.

Smhaykins:
Anybody campaigning for obi on this platform should always put their name and tribe, I want to be sure that Nigeria has truly accepted obi and not the Igbo youths that is trying to force him down our throat.

I initially planned voting for tinubu, not because of competency, but I don't want atiku another fulani to take over from Buhari.

If obi is not generally accepted, he should not devide southern votes for tinubu, because atiku will have block votes in the North

Obi is generally accepted, atiku is not.

The only advantage he has is the pdp.

Vote for obi, don't waste your vote on atiku.

Tinubu is no option.
That guy has nothing to offer. He will make it far worse than he met it.

You only have one year in power, you clown.

Give way to Peter obi and let the man work.

Christistruth00:
Kwankwaso has a Masters Degree in Engineering from the UK

Impressive.

But many people today has UK Masters.

It's not so special anymore.

Peter obi did a single management course at a top business school for $40,000.
Just one course.

How much is a masters again?

buckeyemedia:
Answer the question, why did Peter Obi after spending 8 years as Governor of Anambra State under APGA the Cockoo ruko Party, abscond to Pdp the umbrella party of different colors.

You people should stop trying to change the narrative, answer the simple question why did pandora Pete flee?

It is a question no one has been able to answer.

I don't understand.

Has he committed a criminal offence?
So why are you focusing on it?

The same way he entered pdp was the same way he left them.

He is not attached to any party.

The party is just a vehicle for him to get in positions to serve Nigerians.

buckeyemedia:
Sorry, I must have missed it, please tell me why Peter Obi absconded from APGA to PDP?

Was he chased away by Willie Obiano, Like Nyesom Wike chased him away from Pdp?

I await your sincere response.

What is your business with that?

Is he the first politician to leave a party?

The party is just a vehicle for him, and rightly so.

Christistruth00:
Kwakwanso is well educated stop saying he can’t debate Peter Obi

He is more educated than Peter Obi

That is debatable.

Peter obi has gone through some elite courses that only a few have in their belt.

At this point, Peter obi is the bigger deal.

Obaseki can smell the obi wave in the air.

E go shock dem for 2023.
This southern Nigeria, na obi get am.

Tinubu o.
That is his catchment area.

Jack500:
You mean Biafra/Igbo movement?

You guys will go back to your Biafra or death agitation in February, after Peter obi defeat.

And your life cannot be better than theirs.