₦airaland Forum

Deage: Achebe is only saying the truth. The yorubas are the only reason igbos didn't clearly win the civil war. Awolowo knew this, and I believe that is what Achebe is trying to point out. If igbos hadn't been sabotaged on our way to Lagos, I believe history would have had a new twist.

Why did iboz sabotage Adekunle on his way to iboland to liberate the iboz from ojuku's deathly grip?? Why did they sabotage Muritala on his way to capture Onitsha?

ikeyman00: ^^^^ if anybody is mentally unbalance it should be u and it so s tupid that u fail to know and my fear is u may never know either

so what u saying then

nl is an evidence of ur stu!pidity

Get behind me satanic reptile!! Is this how iboz hate on people's opinion which is their right? I have given my opinion and if it offends your stupid ibo sense, go hug a transformer or drown your miserable self.

Me too! I would never buy a book of a man who has mentally fallen apart. He can stoke the embers of war but one thing is sure,'if the ibo warmongers go head to head against Nigerians again, like this silly Avhebe is stoking the embers of war, they will be utter CRUSHED. Then they will cry everyone a river but will you help your enemy win against you? Ackebe is losing it.

Wislet: Igbos are not cry babies.
When your own people were killed in their millions, its memory alone is heart wrenching.
A simple acknowledgement and possibly an apology for not intervening fast enough when the massacre was going on against a particular people in the north, is enough to defuse any hurt and tears remaining from that time.
Not defences up and down.
We continue to ask: what happened during the war? Were we there?
We can find that answer in our present day with the goings-on in the north. War against a group of people- again.
Is someone doing something about it? Is the government acknowledging to the people that they see what is happening, and do everything in their power to stop it?
When they protest, what is done?
Itt is easy to call them 'ungrateful, troublemakers', when the people involved are not largely your people.
Let us leave sentiments aside pls , and face the situation head on.
When something is bad, say it is bad. Do not colour it even if your brother is involved.
The solution to This nation's problem will be when the right apologies are given/adequate security is given to the same people you want to be a part of the entity Nigeria.
How can they live comfortably when history against their people is being repeated?
And the same ELDERS posing as advisers cannot deem it fit to 'advise' their own people to stop killing innocent citizens.
See how fast they have come out to talk about a book. Yet the same people conveniently ignore that the atrocity going on in their backyard is of greater urgency than a mere book.
May God have mercy on us as a nation.
So much hypocricy!
The past is past.
A book is there to learn and move on...not fight over it.
But the War going on presently at our backyard? Why can't they channel that much energy into a more urgent topic?
Which of them has ever opened their mouth to address it?
God's wrath will not spare the wicked. Because it is wicked to keep silent while people are dying just because they aren't your people.

I am sure you know so little about the war but lies you read on NL. If ojuku says be is prepared for war with the iboz and he will finish the other side quickly, would you still expect apology from the people he planned to finish quickly? Yes, I have the evidence but if you descend to insults and abuse, I will see no need to even have a rational conversation on this issue.

Dede1: Why should telling the plain truth turned into controversy by certain moronic Nigerians? Awolowo had mercurially defended his policy of starvation as a weapon of war in several interviews he conducted. He even went further to elaborate by stating it was foolhardy to feed your enemy to be strong so as to continue fighting and prolonging the war.

Can you recognize truth? It's not the job of your enemy to feed you in war is it? Ojuku said and I paraphrase: "the iboz have been prepared for war a long time. It is a sacrifice they are ready to make for freedom. When the war starts the other side will be surprised about what they will get. I am sure the war will be over quickly". He said this with a smile and there is video evidence. After iboz lost the war, he fled to Abidjan and in interview with the BBC, he said he was surprised that the world did not come to their rescue. The world watched them killed and beaten so hard, yet they looked on. If ojuku and his people are okay with his people dying, is it the job of your wartime enemy to keep you alive? Now how about that for truth? Answer without going to the gutter of insults and abuse.

Fasterboy: Are you stupiiid? It's not ibo but Igbo! oya...say IGBO! all this school drop out sef

You mean iboz? Or ibox? Igbo ala DK?? Eebo?

Parnassuss: The war was between the North and Igbo? Are you daft, scratch that you are fukken daft! What sort of deluded generalisation is that? Does that mean Yoruba soldiers did not fight in the Nigerian Army? Was Awolowo, the quintessential Yoruba effigy, not heading the starvation council? Dude the war was NIGERIA vs BIAFRA, Nigeria constituting virtually all other tribes save some SE.

Also to all those rejects and fucktards who say "it was war, I would have done the same thing, Awolowo did it for the country" Bleep Y'ALL!!! Do you know what war crimes are, wasn't WWII a war also, didn't people get tried for genocide? Nigeria broke every bloody war time rule (yes, wars have rules) and got away scot free and then complain that those who suffered these crimes bury the hatchet? If anyone shouting at Achebe for rocking the boat has ever posted or said anything against the BH then that person is a common lowlife and hypocrite. I was against Achebe's writing in the first place but I see now the reasons he had for writing it in the first place. Bleep AWOLOWO. Bleep U SHORTSIGHTED DICKTAKERS, DOUBLE Bleep GOWON and Bleep ALL BLIND COMMENTATORS!

I see you are mad about the whole issue but it is for nothing because ojuku did not think a day like this will come. Achebi is also short sighted and cannot see he is digging a grave for his fellow iboz. You did not read enough about WW 2 I suppose. Did you not know that both Germans and the Allies tried to starve each other of food and weapons? Germany incessantly picked off merchant ships carrying food and supplies to Britain with his U-boats which is an island. In fact, because of British hitherto superiority, the Germans built two battleships and the jewel of the Kriegsmarine: Bismarck and Tripitz. These ships struck fear in the Brits and their goal was to destroy Britain's ability to receive food and supplies from North America via the Atlantic. The Brits did everything to ensure they were not strangulated and sunk the Bismarck in its first sortie in the north Atlantic. Had they failed, Germany would have taken its blockade efforts to a greater level of success. For the allies, in preparation for their Operation Overlord, they bombed oil and supply lines for they German army to strangulated them too. Commander of the RAF Harris was a proponent of carpet bombing at night with each plane carry 18K tons of bombs at night and the Americans destroying Germany's industrial plants and war machine in the day. Point is this, they also tried to starve each other to different levels of success. The genocide trial was for the Jews that were killed by the Nazis in the gas chambers and they were not aggressors unlike iboz who declared secession and are directly responsible for the war.

ikeyman00: ^^^ my friend ur s tuidness will never transcind to consolation

i can only hope when death calls up ahaha it wouldnt be mistaken for solace

in nl i ve come to see garri crew

and also solace crew which u belong to

ewu hausa

You make no sense. Why the abuse? I spoke the truth more than A.s.s-hebe and it makes you mad? The truth that can never be covered is the war was a big ibo mistake and a stupid gamble and you were soundly beaten. Deal with it.

pazienza: You are not making any sense, you talk about soldiers,tell me,who were the soldiers.
My uncles joined the biafra army when it was obvious that they were going to be killed by the egyptian mercenaries air rades which were been directed at peoples homes,and market places. People joined the army to save their families from the vicious nigerian land army and egyptian airstrike mercenaries that was intent on exterminating the igbo race. Didnt adekunle openly tell the world that they shoot at 'anything that moves'. My mother has lived throughout her life with the trauma of haven seen an airstrike that was directed towards a market place tear her best friend into pieces of meat,she saw many family members and friends die in that market that day. How do you expect her to show love for this country,or even raise children that would love this country? Most igbo people still bear the scars of the biafran war,to most of us,the war was a war of survival.

Nigeria cannot just wish away the biafra question,they might have refused to teach about it in schools,but in most igbo homes,the pictures tell us the stories. Achebe is doing nigeria a favour bringing this issue to the fore.

Iboz should have thought about these BEFORE causing war not after! Actions carry consequences and this is the truth iboz cannot run from. Today, iboz are stoking another war thinking that his wrong will correct a previous wrong it they are very wrong. If you start another war NOW, like Germany WW 2, you will lose, more millions of iboz willbe killed. War is not a solution for war is never won really. Stop insulting other Nigerians, in the north or south, east or west. Your empty arrogance and rhetoric will cause you more losses. Note that in history, the boastful, arrogant, unthinking side has always lost in WAR.

homerac7: my brother,

from ur explanation, d man was caught red handed committing d crime. also, u said u r ur community spokes-man, which makes u a community leader too. if u want evil to multiply in ur community, then go and bail him. but if u want order and peace, allow him to face d consequence of his actions. where were hid wives when he went about stealing? can his wifes deny that they dont know about his ways? let me tell u, if u catch Boko Haram leader today, some people will still come forward to beg u to help them cover the matter. if u do what they r asking for, remember that someone else too will have the same issue in d future, maybe a kidnapper, r.a.pist, murderer, or armed robber, then d family too will remind u of how u helped this thief u want to help today, so u must not b partial abot helping them too. i hope u will like it when u find urself in such situation....

if u fetch a fire-wood with ants from the bush, be ready to receive lizards as guest. a word is enough for d wise. udo diri ghi.

Good point man.

This is sooooo FUNNY! ibo man saved only $ 30,000 in 10 years, went to carry ashawo from iboland too and she swindled him of all the money in one night with one boobbie-benson in one night? LWKMD!! Why put all the money you made in 10 years in a wardrobe?

Onlytruth: So, now you have turned to name calling?
Chei see cowardice!
You be pure woman walahi.

Lol...you make no sense! I dare you declare your war TODAY. If you don't you are a bastar.d!!

warrior01: why? Are you ashamed of awolowo's genocidal acts? Pls learn to look at those pics everyday so as to remind you of the 'brave acts' of your hero; afterall, all is fair in war.

What is there NOT to look at the pictures? Yes, I will because if ibo fathers and mothers and okuju did not care about them, why should people who live 1000 KM away? It is a war, either you kill or are killed, no time to pity the enemy! Simple as that...and YES, YOU CAN put ALLLLL the pictures there, it will help you remember that in the next war, there will be NO pictures of any living, moving or non-moving this for they shall all be eviscerated!

van bonattel: Save your preaching for another thread, these people are still bitter about your progress today as they were in 1966. If they can get away with it, they will wipe you away, they believe you are too pompous and arrogant just because of your drive and industrious disposition. They believe you are too fast and will stop at nothing to paint you as a greedy criminal if you try to make more money than them. The will always subvert your ideas, block your suggestions and deflate your energy just because of your surname.

The ground is still not level, learn to walk with caution as the people that killed your father will not hesitate to kill you.

You are foolis.h and that young man trumps you in everything! Are iboz not criminals who would do anything for money? Today, 3 of them were killed and burned to ashes for robbing others of money, no be ibo? Drugs? Robbery? Rape? Ritual money? Ritual killing? kidnapping? Is that success? God punish your big flat head!

Awake9ja: I later found the reason of ibo bitterness towards yorubas instead of hausas .


Ibos blv that yorubas are their brothers therefore shouldn't have join the war against biafra .
But they miscalculated bcus even the hausas never trusted the yorubas during the said war nor ever.

Don't trust too much, a hard lesson the ibo must learn.
Forget about yorubas we all know them.

Another foolis.h pretentious bastar.do? Insignificant ibox man!

Onlytruth: Your coward governor rounded up mainly Eastern non-Igbo lunatics and beggers and dumped them at the Eastern gateway Onitsha.
Tomorrow you idiiots would start telling us that the East is not one.
Tell him to stop tiptoeing around and go for what he has in mind. Let's see how he pulls it off.
BTW he has sent away more yoruba than easterners.
You have a dog eat dog culture. Live with it.

You are not making sense! Thought you said iboz are something in another man's land? Anuofia! Barawo shege banza! ole!

jomonic: No race will do themselves any good service by forgetting their history. Will you ask the Jews to forget the holocust or the tutsy's forget the genicide pepetrated against them by the Hutus.

Unlike jews and tutsi, iboz went to apply for war and destruction. Sorry but Nigerian army had a job to do!

Onlytruth: I pray that majority of our people don't think like this because this is exactly why we were caught off guard in 1966/67.
I have since learned that a war can happen in Nigeria ANY MOMENT.
Ndigbo si na agha akara aka adighi eri ngwuro!

OnlyFOOL is really stup.id. The poster had more sense than you apparently and just like ojuku was making okra mouth, he later was lamenting how no one batted an eye lid when children and women bore the brunt of the war in iboland. Then, ojuku said he was prepared, his iboz have been prepared for war since. I can't wait for the beginning of hostilities again and I can only hope you lead that rebellion because I will eliminate you and feed your dumb.ass to the dog!

OYINBOGOJU: FORMER Abia State Governor, Chief Orji Uzor Kalu, has carved a niche for himself in the world of business, media, sports and of course politics, which thrust him to national limelight at a relatively young age. For him to have completed two terms as governor before the age of 50 and capped it with the election of a preferred successor from prison on an opposition political platform speak volume of the man's strength of character and vision.


Unfortunately, Kalu has often made mistakes in the course of translating his vision to reality, especially in his fight for the political liberation of Ndigbo. While some of us believe in diplomatic, pragmatic and systematic pursuit of Igbo's ascendency to the presidency, Kalu prefers to be aggressive, abrasive and often times rash in his altercations, which infuriate and push enemies of Ndigbo into entrenching their mindset against the aspirations of our people. In other words, such confrontation ends being totally counterproductive.


After months of political hibernation occasioned by serial betrayal from erstwhile trusted protégés, Kalu has suddenly joined the fray on the debate of which geo-political zone produces the president in 2015.


Characteristically of him, he has gone on the offensive with the declaration that it is the Igbos for the president in 2015 or nothing. On the surface, Kalu's argument is plausible and in fact a reflection of the frustration of a people denied of the presidency when other geopolitical zones have had their turns. But is the demand realistic given the circumstances at play and the antecedents of the chief promoter of this legitimate aspiration?


As almost everybody in Nigeria agrees, it is the turn of Igbos to produce the president in 2015 given the injustices meted out to them and the need to strengthen our democracy based on equity and justice. Kalu's argument is predicated on the assumption that the issue of rotational presidency is a settled one. The argument is also premised on the assumption that both parties to the agreement had been keeping to its tenets and letters. In other words, there had not been any breach in the agreement.


But the truth is that Kalu is one of those who through their acts of omission and commission have violated this arrangement of orderly transfer of power from one region to the other. Between 2003 and 2007, Kalu openly challenged President Olusegun Obasanjo's re-election and went ahead to contest against Alhaji Umaru Musa Yar Adua when it was clear that the North should produce the president after the South had done eight straight years. Because not everything that is good is also expedient, the strategy of running against the current crippled a just and legitimate aspiration.


As it were, that misfiring from Kalu robbed him of the moral justification to be an advocate of rotational presidency since he lacked the patience, discipline and belief to worship in the altar of that political concept. This is not a question of accepting the message and ignoring the warts of the messenger. It is a truth about the messenger being a liability and hindrance to the purpose of his message.


I remember vividly how the same Kalu in 2005 tore into shred my persuasive argument on the need for Igbos to devise and implement a strategic plan for our ascendency to the presidency in 2015 by supporting President Obasanjo and helping to work for the North to also complete their eight years after which it will naturally be the turn of Igbos in 2015. But Kalu, with the power of the media, branded me a traitor. But far be it from me that I should gloat over our present predicament.


As it is today, two issues stand clear concerning the aspiration of Ndigbo to occupy the highest seat of the land. It is gratifying that Kalu has become a convert to the rotational ideology. He owes me an apology on that even though it took him eight good years to come around. The first issue, which is a truth that is self evident is that justice and fair play demand that Igbos be president in 2015. It is their inalienable right as full citizens of Nigeria. The second issue is the workability of the aspiration given that we have a sitting president who is constitutionally entitled to another term of four years.


Closely linked to the second issue is the platform under which the president of Igbo extraction is to emerge. The South East alone cannot produce the votes and spread to produce a president. The political pendulum and reality on ground today favour the ruling People's Democratic Party (PDP) to produce the next president of the country. The idea by Kalu that Hausas, Igbos and Yorubas will go to Abuja to negotiate after the election is not tenable given that scenario therefore, it is evident that President Jonathan will be the preferred choice for the PDP if he decides to run. This is in line with all known democracies all over the world where the incumbent is offered the privilege of "first refusal". It was in furtherance of that tradition that the Democrats rallied round President Barrack Obama. As soon as he indicated interest to run for a second tenure, those with presumed ambitions dropped them. It is acknowledged that nobody is foreclosed from contesting against the incumbent in a primary. But if a ruling political party does not have confidence in the incumbent, what then do they have sell to the country? What this means therefore is that unless President Jonathan declines to run in 2015 or in the most unlikely event that PDP refused to endorse him, the chances of an Igboman emerging president in 2015 would be "very slim".


So, if like in the past we ignore these glaring signs and still grope in the dark in the name of fighting for our rights, we will again end up losers with psychological defeat and deflated egos. Political power is never won by mere sloganeering or outdated strategy of handing down ultimatum. Grabbling power involves deep-seated conspiracies chief of which is reading the political barometer and knowing when to strike.


In this instance, while it is the turn of Igbos to produce the president in 2015, it can only be achievable if President Jonathan is not re-contesting. If he is, and PDP endorses him, the bargaining chip left for the Igbos would be to insist on succeeding him after his tenure. These are facts that my brother Kalu should have in mind so that we don't repeat the mistakes of the past.

And is it the Hausas and Yorubas and Middle Belters iboz have been insulting that will. Ife Kalu or any iboman? Well call us when you wake up to reality then we will lecture you it even vote

Onlytruth: Do you people even think that you will EVER have absolute control of Lagos again?
Nna I can't stop laughing, walahi.
The Nigerian nation is protecting you idiots a whole lot.
If Nigeria ever disintegrates, then you will come face to face with the truth.
Pray that Nigeria never disintegrates.

Didn't Fashola just dumbed iboz reptiles in Anambra last week and you were all moaning? That prayer is for you because if Nigeria breaks up, you will have to bring all iboz to Lagos to fight a war in which they will all certainly be killed before they even reach Ore. Adekunle anyone??

ikooko: Am sure you have read many accounts of the biafran war yet you fail to realize you don't stay in your enemy's territory and still run your mouth. Given the present situation, no wise igboman will attempt any territorial fight in lagos. Besides Fashola has a legal way of resettling you back to your state.
I just hope you have changed your car's plate number to start with before lastma start arresting you.

Let iboz start their madness again and this time, they will. It be allowed to surrender in battle. You cannot waste Nigerias time in a stupid venture you can't win. OnlyLIES and the houses he dreams about in Lagos will only exist up his blac as.s then.

[quote author=Mr. Globe]you are an iddiiott! what do you want to be his claim to fame? what is you or anybody in your generation's claim.


I wirhdrew from this thread because babatope is running mad. I cant analyse a mad mans statement. great awo my black azz[/quote]Chief Awolowo was a renowned lawyer, eminent politian, legendary leader with the vision of a collosus. Achebe was just an ordinary bitter racist English teacher. Nothing more! Let him go and lead his dream biafara to another war....lol

Onlytruth: The GREAT Chinuanulumogu (translated: May God fight for me) Achebe is a WORLD renowned writer,historian and philosopher. His opinion is respected WORLDWIDE.
Truth has found a gigantic ally!

Achebe is a racist tribalist bitter old English teacher. Achebe better stay in the US forever an English teacher because the day he steps in Nigeria will be trouble. He better not fly in to Lagos because someone will challenge him or even slap him. Better to fly direct to his dead biafra dream and never come out again. Just an advice for a bitter tribalistic old man.

Achebe better stay in the US forever an English teacher because the day he steps in Nigeria will be trouble. He better not fly in to Lagos because someone will challenge him or even slap him. Better to fly direct to his dead biafra dream and never come out again. Just an advice for a bitter tribalistic old man.

Sky Blue: Listening to Sardauna's northenisation policy of the civil service in the north was a tad shocking. 'If we can't get a northerner to fill the post on a permanent basis we'll try and get a white man on contract, if we can't get a white man on contract, THEN, we'll consider other Nigerians'.

Seems to me like the beginings of quota system and federal character. I just wonder why some of these characters are so romanticised in Nigerian history.

Why is is shocking? I am sure you were NOT alive then to see it but what he is talking about is very obvious today and was he so right?! What he said is an accurate depiction of iboz and that is the same attitude iboz put up to most other Nigerians until they irritate most Nigerians and mistakenly do something stupi.d again! Then, all hell breaks lose! Is it not funny that ibozland with a land size just about that of Oyo state alone move to other people's land and start to insult them there because of this Federal style of government. Why should the Sardauna accept their empty boastfulness, thinking they are better than other Nigerians and shouldn't they be put in their place? Well, let iboz go and get a job in iboland and turn it into Canaan if they can but stop seeking employment in the north, west, south south or middle belt. Shikenan!