₦airaland Forum

For goodness sake, why not just execute all these people on the spot!?? iboz will cry genocide but so what? This land will go completely to the dogs if iboz are allowed outside their zone. Now, they go all the way to Lagos to go and kill another ibo man who preferred Lagos than alaiboz land. It is known that iboz will do anything for money and the sooner they are made to realize that instant gruesome death follows their crimes, the sooner they can move back to inside iboland.

[quote author=ekt_bear]They aren't rhetorical...I basically want these guys to commit to certain positions so that we can follow the logical implications. Notice how I did this earlier with afam4eva.

If you don't do this, then they'll weasel out and hold fast to their preconceived notions. My approach forces them to face the contradictions.[/quote]Okay...but be careful for as soon as they resort to insults and personality attacks, you know they are out of steam. I have seen that before and this is their only tactic to distract their losing arguments.

van bonattel: Have you ever read his books, or are you like the normal educated illiterate Nigerian who will refuse to give credit only on the basis of the authors tribe?

His obviously tribalistic stance is one of the reasons some of the few people who have bought or read his book will neither buy nor read another one. In fact, they'd just put it through the shredder. There's no big deal about Achebe for he is just another teacher, a professor - a JOB! That is something several millions of people do today and there's nothing special about it. His views are merely pedestrian; like the typical iboz, blame everyone else but not himself the loser. So somehow, the other guys are always the bad guy and you have never done anything wrong! SMH

Ikengawo: Well if you're looking to call me dumb, know that the word is Math not Maths because Math cannot be plural, which is elementary English.
Rochas is a governor of 1 year, and i put him on the list as well, nothing was selective, these are fact and figures we're all aware of.
Most of the ACN governors are showing that if their state was an oil state they still wouldn't know what to do with it. Some like Ondo have sadly reinforced this.
You can't cling to 'leaders' out of ethnic sentiment, you have you realize that ACN is not a part for 'yoruba' people, it's a party for ACN people, and everyone else is left to suffer. Sadly right now 'everyone else' is the Yoruba constituates of their states.

Fashola is great, Oshiomole is great but it ends there.
They're not showing signs of being any better than any other nigerian party and they're using Fashola to decieve people. As a nation, lets stop compromising our expectations so that we can sooth ethnic ignorance.

I see you are either ignorant or disingenuous bu tribal coloration that you spew odious lies like you do here!

1. Ondo is still governed by the Labour party....NOT ACN - Duh!

2. Rochas is yet to do anything of note in Imo state and all the hype you spew here are merely in your head - no one is buying it! For your information I lived in Imo and I know my way around.

3. Oyo state is doing well from recent reports of someone who lives there. I ask that people who live in Ibadan can confirm or debunk this comment. I have been told that a certain major bridge has been cleared of traffic that has bogged it down for years, some roads have started taking on a new look, new ones are being constructed and some order is being brought to bear. Note that the ACN government has only been there for only 1 year and 4 months.

4. Why is Obi who has been in Anambra now for much longer not coming up for review in your post and his performance critiqued extensively?

lolz

[quote author=ekt_bear]How does one ensure that this food, medicine, etc will go to civilians, rather than military?

Have Ojukwu promise, and simply take him at his word?[/quote]Ekt...are you asking rhetorical questions because I am sure you know everyone knew the answers to those questions a long time ago.

FACTS:
1. No one died from ojukwu's or senior generals' family during the war by starvation, how and what did they eat? - The food of the masses of iboz who died of starvation. Otherwise, is there a picture of Effiong for example after the war looking, weak, sickly and hungry?

2. Ojuku and his leadership decided they would rather have aid organizations ship in arms rather than food supplies so the shipments had much less food than could be brought in. Will the people eat guns and bullets? Will they eat medicine? Was it not the military leadership that received this shipments and commandeered most of it? How will people not starve if all you have to feed them is arms?

ACM10: Blockade is an acceptable means of prosecuting a war. It prevents arms and ammunitions from reaching your opponents. But deliberate policy of starvation is a war crime. Preventing food, medicine and relief materials from getting to the civilians is condemned all over the world. So differentiate blockade from the deliberate policy of starvation as a means to win the war.

Can you tell us how many German soldiers died of starvation while prosecuting a war on Soviet ground in WW 2? You mean when Marshal Zhukov cut off Von Paulus 6th Army, he waited to have them receive their food and supplies before continuing the battle? Tell us exactly. Also, why was Ojuku and his commanders and family not starved? Where did they get food or were they farmers who were able to grow crops while other couldn't? Was their life more precious than others who died, so they should eat the food brought in for civilian iboz why they die? Also, did you not know that ojukwu and his senior leadership said they would rather have the aid organizations ship in weapons rather than food? I challenge you to present evidence on those two things: 1. Ojuku and co's family starved and died from lack of food 2. Ojuku and co did not prefer weapons to receiving food shipment?

If you can't, the blame should be on ojukwu not the Nigerians who stood together and did what they had to do.

[quote author=re@lchange]achebe has spoken and we know he spoke the truth
all the yaribas can keep kidding themselves[/quote]Achebe is just another man with an opinion - something all the 7 B people on the planet have equally! He lied there but iboz will clannishly defend any gaffe or wrong to keep their imaginary dream that they are better than anyone alive. The only thing Achebe has ever done is to write a book and teach as a professor in a university - something MILLIONS of people all over the world have done and have done even better. He is just a regular human being and he is not necessarily better than a man who decided to be an expert welder or electrician. To glorify someone who lied shows iboz would rather be lead by anyone (or anything) if it props them up in their stupidly empty boastfulness and odoriferous vaingloriousness.

[quote author=re@lchange]the safest truth about nigeria is that the country is not one, cannot be one and will never be one[/quote]Good, and what are you doing about it? I hope you know no one will vote iboz because this is their mindset which every other part of Nigeria knows too well. Since you cannot understand the value of teamwork, community and unity, let the people who do continue to be in leadership positions. Iboz apparently are only for division not building-up.

Antivirus92: this is one of the reasons why nobody took yorrobbers serious in nigeria. So according to you, you see the war as a power tussle between ojukwu and gowon? May God grant biafra independent! We can't continue living with people who are back-stabbers,liars,saboteures,hypocrites. People who sees the truth but will decide to call black green. What do ojukwu have to do with creation of states? Though he may not like it but he knew that it's beyond his power. And for the last time, ojukwu never singly declared biafra. We igbos asked him to do so after trailers of dead igbo people killed by muslims in the north landed in onitsha. There was mourning all over igboland. Ojukwu told us what the outcome of the war would be but the igbos asked him to go on since the government led by gowon -a northerner,is not ready to do anything significant. If ojukwu or probabbly igbos had wanted war,they would have taken time to plan and prepare. But everything in that war was impromptu on the igbo side. And again there was never a time killing stopped in the north. I heard you say it. They only pause when they are drafting another strategy.

First, there's no mystery or big deal about Achebe. He is just another human being, mortal, finite and limited by his personal experience so he can just air his views like every other person. Now to the issues you raised, I will respond briefly:

1. Iboz who were known to be loyal to the biafran secession were selected to be in the people's assembly that you supposedly told ojukwu to declare secession. This is well-documented only if you would read - they were not just ordinary, regular, clear thinking people, for the ones whose loyalty were in doubt were removed. So, stop lying like this was some decision he had to take because he was told to do it.

2. It is in fact a poor leadership without any foresight that will take such a big step to jeopardize the lives of 3 M+ when he could lay it down to them clearly what would happen. Did he not study history? Does it mean that rather than provide leadership, ojuku would rather follow his followers who thought he was leading them and later today, someone rather than blame the leader turn around and blame the so called iboz?

3. Sad trailers of dead iboz landed in Onitsha but did this just happen out of the blues? Did you remember that after the iboz coup of 1966 killed leaders of every other part of Nigeria while preserving ibo leadership, those dead iboz or their kins and relatives were the ones making fun of the northerners in their own land? "Shi maganin ne" they sang as they pointed out how the iboz soldiers had killed their Sadaunna. Ha, you think that was okay? Ironsi had several months to punish his fellow ibo coupists, but what did he do: NOTHING. But when the northerners responded in kind, iboz are crying till today while the northerners and westerners whose leaders were killed have moved on.

saintneo: Normally no one mixes soups. This is only obtained in resturants because of the quality of soup they prepare.
Garri, semolina, akpu or pounded yam can go with Egusi, Okra or Vegetables soups.

No YOU are WRONG! You may not but A LOT of people do! One man's meat is another man's poison. I don't know the kind of restaurants you go but those soups costs more so not some cheap restaurant with poor food does it. I think you should go out more and expand your horizons.

solomon111: yes,i am amused by the fact, that his statement was liked by his fellow yorobbers.
Fool.

Your generation and everyone to the last man is a FOOL! No wonder your genes are caused! Tribalistic bastardo.

solomon111: ACN will rule your village.
Mad man

You will kill yourself with high blood pressure for nothing! How is he mad for stating his mind? Just make your comments and move on! Even his posts is liked much more than your rantings.

Some people are complaining about financial position of Lagos vis-a-vis taking loans for infrastructure projects. I share your passion for accountability in governance. Well, why not file FOI request to obtain the accounts or go to court that they publish any financial information that is already not made available to the public?

Regarding this bridge, I think it looks quite impressive. If Jonathan even selected on infrastructure and moved personally there (since he can never deliver anything via his ministers) and wait there for 6 months until completion and commissioning, he would have any kind of achievement to his name! Before his lapdogs jump at that statement now that he is president, what did he do in Bayelsa? How many bridges did he build? Roads? How about the floating cities on the Niger he promised?

Weren't ibos making fun of flooding in other places in Nigeria recently? By the way, can someone update Nairaland on this monorail system? Nigerians must make it a task to always keep our so called leaders on their toes!

Jonathan is dumber than a bag of hammers! To think he will do anything is beyond a joke. He doesn't give a damn!

Lizzyvonne: smtin is wrong wit u

Who is this thing? You make no sense....park inside your gutter make I see road!

Antivirus92: then why are wasting your money here? Why won't u just face ur mosque? Must anything igbo,biafra,ojukwu cause high blood pressure in ur family?

I see your family is useless so much you disparage them to the whole world. iboz have no respect for their fathers and mothers anyway. They have no concept of leadership or organized society and that is why they insult their fathers and rape their grandmothers. No one cares about a lost hopeless war except iboz with a chip on their shoulders and confused Ibo children bigots.

Antivirus92: the fight is already on-going but you're still running around making noise. Typical yorrobber man!

I don't e-fight faceless bots. It is a shame you think you know but you know nothing. I no get ya time.

This thread is a comedic manifestation of the iboz mindset and this albatross of biafra. Only 1 Nigerian VS 50+ tribalistic biafra-iboz and y'all huffing and puffing. Y'all spew your usual weak lies and this guy is slamming you to the ground like lemmings? You better not let the league of true Nigerian generals meet you here...they'd feed you to the ravines. Illicit, we are reading and see you put the cowardly insecure iboz through the paces and to the intellectual sword...lol. They will only abuse you when they are cornered but they cannot re-write history. I bet their masters are all taking note of their desperate tactics as you light a fire under their bottoms! Lol

Why not ignore foolis.h iboz tribalists who are in perpetual denial? Iboz wish Lagos bad but they cannot stop moving there in millions. Now they sent you packing since you are not contributing anything, you open threads to whine. When will you people wake-up and face reality??

whitecat007: Life lesson 101 to you ibos is what goes round comes round. was it not just yesterday(think was on benue flood thread) that one ibo guy said "If its lagos now that is being swept away by the flood would be fine" and another ibo responded "I understand what you mean". Onitsha is not flooded yet, see cry. The same Lagos you are wishing all evil on will be your saving grace, for i know all the grandma in your villages who can't even walk will ask to be given back ride to the land of their enemies(SW). Shameless animal set of human beings.
Let all undisputed cry babies of Nairaland go and report this mild talk to Seun and let him ban me over this, i will register with a different Id immediately and now go after Seun like a raging bull.

LOL....na today? Go to the beginning of this topic and see iboz disparaging the poster saying he was lying. They said Onitsha is not affected and as pristine as a foreign planet. Now the truth is coming out. Today Obi was said to hav cancelled a trip to Mexico because of flooding displacing communities but empty boastful was of iboz would never let them anticipate or deal with reality. My condolence to the affected people and communities and hope help comes to them quickly and that no life be lost.

This is a great idea BUT let iboz be reminded they have been down this road before. Ojuku went down the road with iboz in 1967 and 3 years later, 3 M people iboz were dead. This declaration will essentially be a declaration of war against the state and the rebellion could be put down violently. I am only advising people before many lives are lost because of one man's madness. The suffering of Nigeria is the same from the North to the South to the East and West. While some other region might be marginally better, economic problems bedevil every part significantly. How will declaration of biafra change iboland? Even if Jonathan is too weak to respond, it is just a matter of time before the army overthrows the useless government or the house of representatives kicks out the weak government and when and if the military comes into it, crying may be too late. A word is enough for the wise and playing a victim will not solve the problem. Now you are laying your bed, you must be ready when you are forced to lie in it.

LOL...no time my guy! Naija girls...some are good and some are bad...just like anywhere! The only thing you must remember is for a girl you are NOT sure of, never put in all your chips and make sure your are always in a "profit position" if you get what I mean... If breakup happens, she would never be in doubt who lost and why she might never tell you this, she knows it VERY WELL. Note that a profit position does not even conote cash...but you got to leave permanent / indelible marks on every part with serious hard bangin.g....like everyday! Especially for a girl who starts giving you negative signs...play along but solidify your positions and when you breakup, you will have nothing else you haven't collected from HER! Hahahaha....

Rossikk: Let's agree to disagree on all points. Thanks for your contribution.

Okay. I acknowledge your efforts too.

samkoro: Whenever I hear some ignorant people say that Igbo land is land locked I just shake my head in disbelief of this level of ignorance.Such people will be shocked in event of Biafra,they realise that Igboland is not land locked.

Even south east as it is has access to the sea via oguta lake not to talk about Igboland as a whole.Riverstate is 80 percent Igbo if u don't know. Ok ,u think they will join Oduah republic.

O boy you funny o! Rivers are NOT iboz! How many times must they tell you or is it by force? That 80% of iboz leave iboland to go and live in Rivers does not mean your hosts are now iboz! Did you not read about the abandoned property in Rivers...where they permanently chased iboz away from their lands and never let them come back to their supposed houses? Your comment about not being landlocked because of a lake is really, really funny and pitiable! So you mean cargo ships will come through the tributaries of the Niger Delta and navigate to iboland or people will smim their way into and out of iboland? Assuming this stupidity is even possible, do you think the tributaries before you get into your oguta river do not run through another man's land? Well, you'd be sitting ducks and they would just pick you off and they would be within their legal right according to every international or local laws.

Rossikk: Drown in your depression and negativity. You seem to think nations magically transform overnight without first making strides in commerce and technology. I think you're the one putting the cart before the horse.

LOL...you make no sense idi.ot! What stupid strides are you talking about? Your head is so up in your ass your brains have dissolved in your ass! How can a poor, corrupt, consumerist, unindustrialized country make any strides in technology? It doesn't matter what you 40 lapgogs think, the world is not buying your crap and most sensible Nigerians are not. How hard is it to tell yourselves the cold hard truth, deal with it and the country can gain the respect of the world? A country that does not respect itself cannot gain any respect. All this your nonsense is BS....a leaking basket will never fetch water...that is why Nigeria has been retrogressing since the 70s. I think you just came from the village and so you are clueless of what is really happening. All this nonsense of technologies you mentioned are in front of ME here, I see them everyday...they don't even capture the attention of progressive people who are busy holding their governments to account, not encouraging corruption and developing new things! The copy-copy technologies you parrot without any patent ownerships is pitiable. It shows you are clueless and uneducated! LOL

Ridiculous country! Before someone makes a comment now, you would notice Nigerians descend on you saying all the countries giving Nigeria crap are jealous...what is there to be jealous about a leeching country that will refuse to use its resources to develop its people so they can benefit directly in their own country? People are happy over a microwave or a new piece of dress which seems cheap in the UK and they take the stolen monies in Nigeria, change it to pounds and go blow it in another man's country helping and improving a foreign economy instead of theirs. Yes, I benefit a lot when you bring the money from Nigeria here but are YOU so stupid that people here are getting more but you people are getting poorer by growing another country's economy? For all these #5000 pounds spent, that is new jobs for someone somewhere to manufacture those goods, get a big pay, learn skills and keep making things which you only consume. Nigeria will never get respect from other countries with stupidity like this one.

@Poster...your efforts to collate all this "nice" stories are good and commendable. In spite of all these "good" news, Nigeria remains the JOKE among poorer countries of the world and even the richer and more influential countries. The reason is this: even if you cook the BEST meals, the aroma is second to none, it is so good and nutritious BUT you serve it in the stinkiest toilet you can find, people would rather drink water and pass. No one would even commend or notice all the great work you have been doing.

This is an analogy for Nigeria at present. In recent memory till date, several countries have shown they don't care about and even insulted the country. You can't spin this one: South Africa, Israel, Malawi, Ghana, Saudi Arabia, etc. Some countries are more "covert" about their distrust and disdain for Nigeria and make you line up long hours in their embassy in Nigeria to get a visa, collect your visa fees running into millions and don't even issue a visa to most applicants: US, UK, Canada, etc, etc. What is more important? All these "technology leadership" you mention or to fix the fundamentals: CORRUPTION, improve Nigeria's image and perception abroad by developing our health infrastructure so Nigerian leaders are not running abroad to die in their hospitals, fix roads, power, elevate standards of living, etc; elect a Nigerian leader with the skills and will to improve Nigeria's foreign policy and who any leader can respect as a colleague and can hold his own intellectually? Which ONE is easier and more expedient? Guess what? When these things are done, the paltry list of "technological leadership" you have up here will multiply several folds but more importantly, countries will begin to respect Nigeria and Nigerians. Don't put the cart before the horse!

There is no invention you mentioned that the world will pay any attention to so far as the people associated with it are viewed as corrupt, dishonest, scammers, etc. Perception is everything! Which is easier: to fix corruption and dishonesty on our system or invent a solution to a problem NO other country has ever done in the world? Is there a new research or knowledge or discovery that will be required to get our leadership to work? Get power to run 24/7? Build hospitals, water infrastructure, agriculture and get honest people to be in charge? Is there any of these things that has never been done anywhere else? Rhetorical questions for all these things are not rocket science! Even the scriptures say: wash the inside of the cup and outside shall be clean ALSO! This is instructive and the way to put the horse before the cart. I had an argument over a previous thread along similar lines and it is clear to any intelligent leader that the world cares less about Nigeria even if it leads the whole technology world tomorrow morning BECAUSE they don't care! They think you are rogues, corrupt, liars, cheats, all running away from the hell-hole you lived in, why should they ever believe you?

FINALLY, know that I write from experience! Nigerian are smart, VERY smart indeed! They know that....they know we are at their best institutions, make discoveries, publish papers, build things BUT you have to prove yourself as an INDIVIDUAL before you gain that respect. This will be to a few people you work with or know you personality. The several hundreds, thousands or millions who you might interact with through your green passport suspect you as soon as you show up. My other countries passport makes my life easy...Naija passport only when you arrive or depart Lagos. If I needed help at a foreign embassy, which passport would I present to them? Not Nigerian of course, otherwise you become even more suspect. This is the real issue and no need to keep deceiving yourself and gullible people who cannot see the whole picture. I am NOT buying one dime of these technologies you listed and the world AIN'T buying it either!

berem: so na you dey make sense abi? Your sense no complete I swear! Quit the tribal bigotry and stop fooling yourself!!

I think the ibo stupidity is attacking your black brains....and again, I don't know you and don't care. Stop quoting me and leave me the fvck alone...don't play the victim when I respond to you in a really harsh manner. Just walk on by, you're a little tribalist fish....when the leading ibo tribalist bastards show up; you will see the gloves come off! Now leave me alone, I don't care to talk to you.

Billyonaire: If you cant go to sleep naturally, why dont you take sleeping tablets and die naturally for 10hrs and let us hear word. Nigerians are not as corrupt as the Americans in the first place. You really know nothing about the USA, the drug operations, the hedge funds fraud, USA doesnt own the highest number of prisons in the world for nothing. Take a chill pill and dont add pepper to injury.

He be like say MUMU CRAZE dey worry your big flat head? Have you or do you even live in the US or got a clue what you are talking about? So drug operations, hedge funds, etc make the US more corrupt than Nigeria? You must be brain dead or actually dead to not know the reality that because they keep better statistics and publicize such crimes does not mean it is more than Nigeria where you current president is lying about the health of his wife -- which is really not his direct fault. So what won't Nigerian leaders hide? Oil subsidy scam? Depletion of foreign reserves without anything to show for it? Siemens? Halliburton? Ibori? Odili? National ID card multi-billion Naira corruption case? GEJ confiscated $ 12 M EFCC case? Obasanjo $ 16 B dollar roads budget? Ndi Onyekereke stock market fraud and manipulation? Transcorp? Several hundreds of Nigerian drug mules jailed in China/Asia? How many corruption cases has Nigeria dealt with? Can you get a driver's licence, passport, FRSC ticket, graduation degree, etc without paying a bribe in Nigeria for someone to make it fast, not make you wait forever, etc in Nigeria? I have NEVER paid any kind of bribe over here but not in Nigeria! Driver's licence, passport, etc have to be paid with a small tip (BRIBE) for the officer in charge! Have you ever been in police custody in Nigeria for false charges? No a lawyer will not get you out, NAIRA will...I can go on forever! Stop this your nonsense or stop quoting me for I have no interest in your lies and fallacies!

Rossikk: My friend stop reasoning like a MUGU. The US can afford to maintain that internal decorum because they've profited massively from their WORLDWIDE DESPOILATION, you know, little things like invading nations on flimsy excuses to steal their oil, installing corrupt puppets in resource rich countries, sponsoring 'rebels' to overthrow govts which refuse to bow to them, slavery, economic exploitation of foreign territories etc... THAT'S SENIOR corruption we're talking about. Corruption that kills billions, and nets you trillions. Nigerian corruption in comparison, is akin to attacking an office messenger for stealing a sandwich while ignoring the pen robbing execs stealing millions in the boardroom.

You are the MUGUCIOUS MUMU here...as you found it convenient to skip the question but drown yourself further while clutching at straws. Don't stupidl.y shift the goal post because you only box yourself into a corner. If you had use of your brains, you would realize that it takes a strong and working economy to '...profit massively from WORLDWIDE DESPOILATION...' something which Nigerian economy has never been since the 70s. Stop blaming or putting another person or country down as if that in an excuse for your fallings and failings as a country. I asked you simple questions which if you can't answer, just go on and believe whatever crap you spew and leave my posts alone. Burying your head in the sand like the ostrich while passing the buck does not cover your exposed as.s for which every serious country just makes fun of you.