₦airaland Forum

MPSA:
Do you want to tell me; Nelson Mandela, Thabo Mbeki, Steve Biko, Albert Luthuli (the 1960 NOBEL PEACE PRICE WINNER) Where also illiterates, Tell me any good story about your people please I want to learn more about your people , You talk as if your people did something good in this world

Albert luthuli, noble prize winner in what?? in making peace right?? Apart from Noble price in peace, why can't black Africans get noble prices in other things, at least Nigeria would rather produce in literature rather than peace, and we are literary giants even till this day, though not like we were in the eighties.

MPSA:
SORRY! Do you want to tell me; You have a good brain that can build a city? If so! Shut Up, We also built South Africa

l think his point is that it is meaningless comparing SA with decades of white rule to other African countries like Ghana, Nigeria, Cameroon, etc where the whites did little except in exploiting their resources for Europe.
At a time, Johannesburg was an important city to the world because of her gold, also take a look at the stock market of Johannesburg which has been in existence since the 19th century, why would you compare this to that of Nigeria formed immediately after independence in 1960, and hampered by some policies from decades of military rule.
The foundation of Southern Africa and West Africa is different and so are the problems. We are not saying black South Africans are dull or useless but that they were mainly iliterates until 1994, same with Nigeria which had mainly iliterates in 1960.

Nowenuse:
Yeah, I am proud to be from Jos (central Nigeria).
I currently live in Warri city in South-south Nigeria.

Both cities have a large urban area of over 1.5 million people. By the next census next year, they would have both clocked 2 million people each. Their economies are growing too.
I visit Lagos occasionally and know the city quite well.

You see, I am happy that Nigeria is not like Kenya where everyone has to live in Nairobi.
The majority of Nigeria's middleclass population do not live in Lagos unlike your one-city country.
I can bet my balls here that all of you Kenyans on this thread live in Nairobi where you are heavily congested in those concentration camp houses that dominate Nairobi

Look at Warri city view below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3IUhortNLg

Then see my current location from google map and the view of the area I live. Can you see that here in Nigeria we do not live in concentration camp houses and slums?
When will Kenya ever get to this level?

Yeah and also in warri where l live you can get a nice 3 bedroom apartment for 300-360 thousand per annum. This is true around warri, and in jakpa, Ekpan to be precise. Though there are more business opportunities in Lagos and some of my family members may prefer Lagos for this reason, but l think I'd rather stay in warri than Lagos.
Also it is an oil based city and so the population of the middle class is considerably high.

rvp20182:
There is ABSOLUTELY no excuse for Nigerian to be poor. When you're selling 2million barrels of day of oil daily - you really have no excuse to be poor and desperate. Middle East has turned from a desert into middle class while SSA countries blessed with natural resources like Nigeria seem to get worse n worse every year.

l agree there's no reason for Nigeria to be poor, but comparing Nigeria's 2 million barrels of oil per day to that of the Middle East where it is usually more than 10million barrels per day(for smaller populations) shows your ignorance.

AnonymousIP:


Also Check The "2018 NIGERIAN UNIVERSITY RANKING"

Because i Can See The University of Ibadan is Not the Best In Nigeria ....

Neither is it the 2nd ...

See Full List Here : https://www.4icu.org/ng/

4icu is not highly regarded across the world when it comes to ranking.

rvp20182:
IMF & WB - don't produce national accounts (GDP) - they just take whatever is thrown out there by National Statistics- and convert it into dollars or PPP (using international price comparisons) - they also do projection based on those figures.

Yeah so why not tell that to Nairobi walker who quoted the IMF.

254tobby:
You're wrong,Kenya is the economic power of eastern and central Africa with a GDP of 88 Billion USD then Ethiopia follows closely with 85Billion USD.This is according to 2018 latest IMF stats..Get your facts right.

But so many dispute this 88 Billion dollars and call it fake, even Kenyans themselves, and according to rvp2018, the IMF is not reliable source for GDP. So what do we believe now?

254tobby:
Among other African forums,this is the ONLY unique African forum where Kenyan stuffs are being posted daily on other threads by some silly Nigerians in the name of degrading Kenya's image,they enjoy alot!!

Weird stories by bloggers come out from almost all African countries especially Zimbabwe, Kenya, Uganda. Some true, some false. No one cares about Kenya here.

theenchanter:
that's not 'normal housing' in Nigeria.

No need replying them any longer, as you can see already, they are just here for adverts, and l wonder why they think we would care about Kenya.
l for one, know many Nigerians are just here to while away time occasionally or have fun, but the Kenyans seem to think(for some odd reason), Nigerians should care about Kenya.

ovokate:
What she's trying to say is that the song might give nationals of another country a wrong impression of the average Nigerian...why is that so hard to understand

Why are we trying to impress the white man? Nigeria jaga jaga at the moment, falz spoke the truth.
Everybody be criminal..is not literal, but a true statement where SARS/police is concerned.

LastSurvivor11:
Yes everyone is not a criminal but we all have criminal mindset.

You cannot be rich in Nigeria until you cheat someone.
This is Nigeria, where no one want to hear the truth..

180 million people all have criminal mindset? so all the rich people in Nigeria, including Seun became rich by cheating someone?
Just say generally there are more criminally minded people and you would have made your point.

Nowenuse:
Hahahaha. Kenya's biggest bank started out as a branch of an Indian bank?

So all this while we have been calling Kenya 'little India' we were perfectly on point.

Take away the touch of foreigners from Kenya and Somalia would be better than the outcome

Yeah the Kenyan Commercial Bank(KCB) was formed as a branch of an lndian bank.
lt's surprising some of the things you'll find on Kenya when you take some time to make just a little research on them.

tbaba1234:
No one kept possession in this match.. Uzoho was hardly tested. It is not as if Congo was great.

True, Congo wasn't great either, but they had this chemistry and imposing play.
l understand your point about the pitch but l think we played almost thesame way we played against Serbia, pitch or no pitch, but then again l believe we can only judge from against England and Czech because then the final list would have been made public.

tbaba1234:
Keep possession on top that pitch??

But the Congolese did that better, and my point was based on the last 3 games.

safarigirl:
the Super Eagles Team A has not played at full strength or capacity this year. Remember that

To be honest, from the last three games(Poland, Serbia, Congo), l would say the team lacks that chemistry and sleek movement l saw in the second half against Argentina. The players do not seem to be firm on the ball and we do not keep possession very well.

[quote author=kikuyu1 post=67966659][/quote]He is showing you that urban life in Nigeria spread across to cities like Enugu, Kano, Warri, Benin, Calabar, and not just Lagos, Abuja, PortHarcourt. This is Unlike Kenya where outside Nairobi and maybe Mombassa, it seems there are only villages.

sufferNsmiling:
this is the reel Nigeria

Falz - This Is Nigeria


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW_xEqCWrm0#

Of course this is Nigeria. No one here has been denying all these.

sufferNsmiling:
The wealth of a country is not in the ground but all around us .nigeria has a lot of wealth in the ground like democratic republic of congo but on the other hand kenya is a better built country and a better structured country. I am a nigeria but come sunshine or rain I like kenya.

Oh come on, don't be ashamed to just say you are a Kenyan. We all know that, so don't think you're fooling anyone here.

Petrobros:
Oga who go come replace Iwobi from that wing position?

Where da hell is Onyekuru for crying out loud. l heard he has recovered.

Good one there!
The gods must be appeased.

Nothing we nor go see for Nairaland.

Brains1990:
He should have used the money to buy garri or rice and distribute to the common people on the streets of Lagos. That would have been commendable.

Nah that is even worse.

rvp20182:
Had to confirm again those pictures - yeap - that is what I am talking about slum cities. Nigeria in 70-80s OIL BOOM moved to towns in droves [they had for a decade the world fastest urbanization] in search for elusive OYEL money- and yet there was no corresponding infrastructure or housing development - and what you got are huge slum metropolis - and collapsed rural economy (agriculture) - I tell you the amount of fallow land you'll find in Nigeria is staggering. Everybody and their grandmother basically abandoned the villages in 80s for unplanned urban centers --- except maybe for the nomadic north (hausa-fulani-kanuri) - you now have mega metropolis of slums - without electricity or water or sewage or any garbage collection -- everyone is just waiting for oil money to come from Abuja and if not - trying to escape Nigeria.

Are you truly a Kenyan?? l ask because you are obsessed with Nigerian matters, l don't even know so much about Kenya, and l haven't met any Nigerian who cares to know or ever discussed about Kenya. lt's just one of those other African countries.
That aside, l think your analysis is wrong, l have been to Lagos just 3times all my life and l have never been to Abuja. There are many others like me spread across the country.

rvp20182:
We are not talking balance of trade. Yeah you export tonnes of oil - 50B worth of that - of course most money remain with Shells & oil barons ...and what your federal gov get I think is maybe 10-15B dollars...but here you're struggling to import goods worth 30B dollars...and you cannot even find the dollars to import that...real black market exchange rate is oscillate btw 360 -500!

The Buhari Government has been so much against imports, and there are import licenses which l don't totally support personally. Just mind your business jarry.

Another lazy youth on the loose.

TayserMahiri:
What are we supposed to assume now. Did Njoroge overbear on Bolaji. Because I know that the top leadership at Cellulant is Kenyan dominated. You can see that here

https://www.cellulant.com/our-people/#

Also, follow the process map HERE to see where Nigeria first appears. The idea began in 2002 and Nigeria came into the fore in 2012, a cool 10 years later when 14.5 million Nigerian farmers registered.


I agree we shouldnt be arguing over such stuff but folks can argue over anything here no matter how mundane.

The arguement at first was that a Kenyan company Cellulant is doing very well in Nigeria, this was the prime example by rvp of a Kenyan company (founded by kenyans) doing well on the continent.
Then we brought to his notice that it (like Andela) was co-founded by a Nigerian and it has the Nigerian factor hence it's no surprise it's doing well in Nigeria and all over. Now you came here to say the Nigerian was employed by the Kenyan, again in the Cellulant story there is no evidence of that, even in your video the Kenyan makes it clear(whether in 2002 or 2004), it started when he met with Bolaji.
Then you compared them to Facebook founders and again l proved you wrong because Facebook Mark Zuckerbeg is never referred to as a cofounder. So you've been the one assuming things here and stretching the arguement because you wouldn't state things the way they are.

TayserMahiri:
He has a good CV but not an equal to Njoroge. Some things are just like that. Bolaji is like Eduardo Saverin while Njoroge is like Mark Zuckerberg at facebook.

There's no evidence of that, they met and invented this in 2004 after discussing together for hours, inspired by a previous discussion they had with other guests on a dinner table. Much of the success and Livewire of Cellulant at his early stages was in Nigeria, so much so that some foreign websites even say that it was founded in Nigeria. So without the Nigerian being involved as well as the Nigerian factor, Cellulant would definitely not be what it is today. This is the reason the Cellulant story has it's Nigerian story as the major part, and why Bolaji had to be given the platform to speak for long on how they started in Nigeria in that video.
Note that Bolaji himself once worked for the world bank.
As for Mark Zuckerbeg, note that he is never referred to as a cofounder of Facebook but simply as the founder. You should be proud Africans are getting together to do great things and not diminish the effort of any.

Safiaa:
Exactly, so then can we really call that true love? I don’t think so, I don’t define that as love. You love the conditons that come with the person. Not the person themselves.

You can like people and things unconditionally as a default. But when it comes to love, you love because there is something valuable and attractive to you and for you. Even a mother's love for her child is based on having the child as her replica.
ln a relationship, it should be a give and take kind of love, else we would keep deceiving ourselves with the so called most loving partner being also the most trampled on.

Safiaa:
If love is conditional it’s not true love. Period!!!!! No if buts or maybes.

Unconditional love is a myth, even God so loved the world that he gave his son, in order to achieve something great from that giving.

TayserMahiri:
Okay, next time we will not even hire Nigerians if this how they behave once hired. Same attitude from Nigerian KQ employees.

l watched the video, no where was anyone hired. The Nigerian has an impressive C.V and he single handedly built Procter and Gamble from the scratch in Ghana.

[b]Bolaji started his career working as a Sales Manager at Procter & Gamble, in Lagos Nigeria. He worked this job for three years, between 1994 and 1997, before being promoted to the position of a Customer Business Development Manager & Head of Business, Procter & Gamble, Ghana.

The new position, which he occupied for three years, required him to literally build the Ghanaian subsidiary of the international company from scratch. From August 2000 to March 2001, Mobolaji had yet another role as a Customer Manager (Detergent and Candies) at Procter & Gamble.

He headed the Business Development Unit at the African Virtual University after he was hired by the World Bank through KPMG. He was also the Project Manager of the Africa Development Bank’s multinational sports project at African Virtual University for 6 years, between April 2001 and March 2017.

Between 2007 and 2008, Akinboro worked as a Senior Operations Manager at Plan International, Tanzania. He held the position for one and a half year before he was promoted to the position of a Country Director at Plan International, Malawi.[/b]

source...Nairametrics.com

greggng:
Why are they insisting that Congo game must go on? Do they want to import Ebola here?

l understand you, but again l feel this isn't fair to all of Congo, definitely not all of them have Ebola just like not all Nigerians had in 2014. lmagine you had to represent your company in the U.S and you were denied a Visa in 2014, because of the Ebola epidemic.

rvp2018:
30% 0f Nairobi are proper middle class earning 10k dollars per annum..that is whopping 1.5m Nairobian which explain why outside Joburg Nairobi leads in modern malls in SSA.And Nairobi has 10k dollar millionaires..Lagos has 15k usd millionaire mostly oil barons..Hass track rent price in Nairobi and typical Nigerian have to cramp 15 of themselves to afford in low middle class Nairobi.

Majority of the oil barons are even in PortHarcourt.
What is the total middle class of Nairobi? Middle class is middle class everywhere, rent price in Nairobi is high because you pay for electricity, the Nigerian middle class sometimes provides their own electricity, so it's thesame thing finally.