₦airaland Forum

rvp20182:
South Sudanese are the blackest - and some of proudest people. That is beauty right there. I mean if you want to find Africa - you'll start from authenic black south sudan - won't you.

We have nothing against black. l am a light skinned guy from Edo, and my family is light skinned as well, but we call ourselves black, so put this stupid arguement on skin colour to rest, and fixate on more beneficial things.

NairobiWalker:
How is she even supposed to run and tackle if she has a body like Sarah Hassan's or Huddah Monroe's? These guys are just lame.

Have you seen Australian and U.S players? check out Alex Morgan for instance? These are amongst the best female players in the world.
As for the males, is Messi masculine?

rvp20182:
Find one from South Sudan - If you can find one real beautiful black lady from South Sudan - online - or offline - please paste it here. I am assuming you can go past their dark skin.

l have no problem with their skin but their looks, their looks wouldn't also be a problem but for the fact that you present them as examples of African models, they may be great human beings with confidence and inner beauty and even models in Sudan, but certainly not the best Africa has to offer.
Even you know the truth, but you wanna argue.

Nowenuse:
Kenyans don't think Agbani Darego is dark skinned enough. They have the belief that anyone who doesn't look like Lupita must have bleached.

So, you wonder if these people are normal

lf Abani Darego isn't dark skinned, then who else can be identified as a dark skinned person! this is baffling, it seems some of these Kenyans here are very dumb.

rvp20182:
I doubt he can stand to see the reflection of his real image (black) - of course he doesn't know Alek Wek is SUPER MODEL - and there is probably no nigeria bleaching super-model to talk about. Kenyan Juma (she is turkana - not sudanse) is also a super-model.

lf you want l can show you pictures of real beautiful black ladies from across the continent and not the ones you posted here.
This is the problem l also have with African female footballers, all looking masculine like the pictures of the so called models you posted here.

rvp20182:
I am not in that business. I am just highlighting black Kenyan super-model that graces catwalks and get paid more than your bleaching self will ever make...and yet still stand proud against skin lightening.

In meantime help define for us beauty.

There are not so many black miss world winners, and Nigeria was the first African country to have that in the dark skinned Albani Darego in 2001, so what are you talking about? Have these so called super models ever been nominated for the miss world challenge?

NairobiWalker:
The last two women are from South Sudanese ethnicities and that's how South Sudanese look like and they're African. Be proud of your roots. The main point was not beauty dick measuring but to show you how elsewhere people appreciate their skin complexion and that's why both women have risen to become some of the world's most recognizable super models.

How can you call those ladies super models for Christ sake?

rvp20182:
I use to think Congo (DRC esp) was messed up - but I hadn't met Nigeria. How will they ever come out of that very serious self- esteem problem - 80% of their women are bleached - that probably leave the few northern illiterates fulani & hausa women

There is nothing wrong with black color - Lupita Nyongo easily graces the vogues - and we have had other black kenyan beauties
https://images.indianexpress.com/2018/03/lupita-nyongo-759.jpg

Kenya super-model - Ajuma
https://atlantablackstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/ford_models-ajuma-24805.jpeg

South Sudanase super-model Alek Wek
https://allstarbio.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/alek-wek-photos-400x381.jpg

Apart from Lupita in the first picture, l don't see the physical beauty in the other ladies. lf you want to promote black then at least use our beautiful women. There are many black beautiful ladies across the continent and beyond.

rvp20182:
Kenya is massively investing in infrastructure that will only make it second best to South Africa's world class infrastructure pretty soon. There is ongoing tarmacking of upto 30,000kms of low seal tarmac
Dongo Kundu by-pass Mombasa

Almost all countries are investing in infrastructure.

fallout87:
They will never be indicted.

The best Nigerians can hope for is Trump putting pressure on Buhari to run a free and fair election. Then installing US troops ready to invade if Buhari rigs or attempts to use military might.

Be careful what you wish for, Syria and Libya readily comes to mind.

TayserMahiri:
I have always wondered why other Africans cant learn from kenyan Indians on how to run family businesses btw. Indians dont do individual stuff, they do as a family or as families which works for them. Most black Africans are individual billionaires not family billionaires.

The Dantatas were family Billionares though. In Egypt there are also family Billionaires.

nemesis8u:
"Stallion was ranked within the top 15 companies and was one the only two high ranked conglomerates along with the Dangote Group."

https://theeagleonline.com.ng/nigerian-government-lists-stallion-group-amongst-nigerias-top-businesses/


"in December 2014, Stallion Group was awarded amongst the top Nigerian conglomerates by the Federal Government of Nigeria and was recognised as the second largest conglomerate in the country that included several other prestigious multinational corporates. As key criteria for the awards, the Federal Government considered the amount of taxes paid, the employment generated, Corporate Social Responsibility and the companies' turnover."

https://globenewswire.com/news-release/2015/04/14/724341/10128805/en/Stallion-Group-Forges-Ahead-With-Africa-Expansion.html

u still don't get my point do u ?

no point is all this discussion , be it Nigerians be it Kenyans , be it indians those who r making money r doing so, while we r wasting our time here

And what will ur concern achieve ?

And will the Kenyans accept ur concern ?

And what if Kenyans start having concerns for Nigerians ?

And will the Nigerians accept their concern ?



Nowadays unsolicited concern is very dangerous

When West showed concern about Libya , Libya became a disaster

When West showed concern about syria , syria became a disaster

When Saudis showed concern about Yemen , Yemen became a disaster

Etc etc


Concerns r best left to the citizens of the concerned country.

So if I were u I will keep my concerns to myself , safer

You just wanna argue, he is also a British citizen, if you list him on the top twenty in Nigeria, you should also list him in England, he is a world business man who has Nigerian citizenship, this is different from the Kenyans who have their major economic boosters from lndian wealthy business men who dominate in Kenya except for the politicians in Kenya and a few other Kenyan business men.
Even if l concede this to you, this is just one man who is even more international than anything else(Google any Nigerian top twenty richest, he isn't there), how many of his kind can you find competing in Nigeria despite the free space given to them.
My point has been clear from the beginning.

theenchanter:
all humans are the same.... forget Kenyan or other Kenyan or Hindi Kenyan n so.

Did l say humans are different?

nemesis8u:
No offence sir but these questions r childish , but I answer them

1. What Indians ?

They r kenyan citizens and as citizens like any other citizen they have the right prosper.

2. The are around 50000 Kenyans of indian origin. If Kenyan indians r running a successful business then what's the harm arent they citizens ?

A business is not run by the owners , it is run by hundreds and thousands of people who contribute to the company and the country indirectly. And who r the people they r the citizens of the country.

And u guys need to understand the wealth shown by the wealthiest businessman's r basically assets not cash , those assets r indirectly linked to the net asset of the country and the r the resources of the country. They r not suitcases u can put them under ur arm and walk away.


As for population

what do have to say if tomorrow the Nigerian population in Ghana which is growing steadily reaches a significant portion of their population and indirectly their financial clout.

And then if a Ghanaian raise similiar questions and seek justification as to why Nigerians r more wealthier or more in population.

What will ur answer be then ?

And Indians were in Kenya from 1850s or near about.
Same like in West Indies, french Guiana , Singapore , malyasia , Burma etc Therefore these questions u asked have no head or tail they r not relevant in the real world .

Real world moves on money , why do u think countries seek FDI from other countries ?

Or do they give conditions like only Asians investors wanted or only African investors wanted .

U guys r smart guys , why tangle urself up in these topics , discuss topics which allows u to show ur talent or the talent of Ur countrymen or even other countries.

Proving or disproving anything in the internet won't effect anybody or anything in real life.

the organisation I work for or used to had a naturalized African lady as head of a specific division , did anybody give a damn no becz she was good at her work and gave results , her work was important for the security of the country.

So sir let's get real

Yeah l get your point, although you said there are about 50,000 Indians in Kenya, but this is a small number to me in a population of 45million people, l don't wanna push this any further though.

nemesis8u:
Sunil Vaswani, chairman of Stallion Group holds Nigerian passport net worth 2.3 billion dollars

Should be easily in the top 10 richest Nigerians

Now I leave u guys to Ur discussion

good luck

lol is this the best you can come up with? Sunil Vaswsni is also a British citizen and he doesn't have his major establishments in Nigeria dominating the Nigerian business scene like say Dangote, Elumelu, Abdul, and Adenuga, that is my point.
l know you get the point but you are joking of course or you only wanna sound controversial.
The biggest indigenous conglomerates in Kenya are dominated by the Hindi Kenyans(except for a few), and l have no problem with that, l am only more concerned about the other Kenyans.

kikuyu1:
I SMILE TOO! Dangote employs Indians too!? Omfg! AHAHAHAHAA?!

Yah he does.

nemesis8u:
What about in USA , UK , Germany , Singapore , France , Canada , south Africa , Malaysia , Scandinavian countries , west Indies , Latin America , Indonesia etc etc

Seriously u have any idea of the scale of industries and companies being run successfully in almost all countries of the world and the status they enjoy ie of equal rights.

Only in banana countries the state discriminates based on colour , ethnicity , race etc.

Even in fundamentalists muslim country like Qatar indians have been designated as sheikhs first non muslims and non citizens to be given the title.

The problem is not in having successful Indians enjoy equal status, of course the Indians are everywhere in the world and they are all over Nigeria too. The problem rather is having the lndians as the wealthiest in your own country where of course you have the advantage of more numbers than they have.
Germany, U.S, U.K, etc do not have the lndians as the wealthiest in their country, not because they discriminate against the lndians but rather due to the fact that they(Germany, U.S, etc) dominate their country's business terrain and have more numbers at home than the lndians, hence lndians can't completely dominate no matter how talented the Indians are.
The lndian population in Kenya should not be more than 2million, in a country of 48million people, so why should lndians dominate their business landscape?
lndians are all over Nigeria too and they are quite successful, they work in many construction industries as well , same goes for the Lebanese, so no one is discriminating against them, but it is impossible to have them dominate the list of the top twenty richest in Nigeria just as it's impossible for them to do same in Germany for instance.

kikuyu1:
You're telling on yourselves! We also have our own Somali NE counties bringing down our mean but as always we trump you in literacy.
Its not even close,like all relevant comparisons.




Dangoteland:

https://knoema.com/atlas/Nigeria/topics/Education/Literacy/Adult-literacy-rate

This is all I could find out I really really doubt those low figures,knowing Somalis and having been to Garissa-maybe they mean illiterate in English and many have learned Arabic in their universal madrassas.



https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/10/13/garissa-county-last-in-literacy-levels-at-82_c1651530

What's the population of your Somali NE counties? What is the size? Are their elites major players in your politics too? That's the point Nowenuse is making.
You say the literacy rate is not close and you may have a point there, Nigeria should do better, but 78% literacy rate in all of Kenya is just about 35 million people while 56% in Nigeria is about the 100million mark, and again many core Northerners are also just educated in Arabic and the Qur'an and not in English.

These are the lazy youths Buhari was talking about.

alexxo11:
trust me bro...im a kenyan and i travel to nigeria alot.....trust me when i tell you that kenya is better than nigeria in every and i mean every ascpect even education...if u dont believe me check ://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000207165/nigerians-top-list-of-foreign-graduates-at-jomo-kenyatta-university even a vice rector from kaduna university came to study in kenya.Im not arguing blanks like the rest ...i have seen both sides.

So your proof is that they came to study in a Kenyan university therefore Kenya is better, my Cameroonian friend tells me thesame thing all the time, there are so many Nigerians in his university and so it is in Benin republic and Ghana, your point is not good enough.

ImaIma1:
When i see story telling, i scroll down first to see if there is a "read more" link. I just move on.

Bad habit.

Me too, l hate links.

rvp20182:
What excuse did I make? We have turned the corner and are aiming at South Africa in 10-15yrs.Nigeria in the meantime is racing to the bottom...name any index...and Nigeria sit comfortably with countries like Chad, Niger, Burundi, Somali and Gambia. While Kenya is sitting there with South Africa, Botwana, Ghana, Rwanda and such progressive countries.

You are aiming at South Africa in the next 10-15 years, why fix your gaze so low? it's even better not to dream at all. SouthAfrica also wants to be better than what you see of them in the next decade as well.
The point is that all countries are progressing too, and hope to be way better. Ghana, Botswana, Senegal, Cameroon,etc they are all making great progress and Nigeria has plans to go very high too with lots of infrastructures to come up but setting SA as a target is quiet limiting.

Obi1kenobi:
Really? I've called the Kenyans out severally when I thought they were misinformed and spewing delusional claims. I'd call it out when I see the Nigerians here doing the same. I was particularly moved to interject myself here when rhetoric like calling fellow Africans "slaves" was injected into the thread. You'd think Nigerians would know better than that, considering our coasts were a major source of the transatlantic slave trade.

It's good to call a spade a spade. I agree with you on that. It is Nigeria that people are risking their lives in the Sahara and Libya and the Mediterranean to escape from, not Kenya. Ironically, most of those fleeing are Southerners, not the war-torn, highly impoverished North. It is Edo people and Igbos and Yorubas spending as much as $5,000 to be couriered into Europe illegally. Our country is in big trouble. So yes, as you said, it is good to call a spade a spade.

l agree we are in trouble. l also agree it is wrong to call fellow Africans slaves, but l still think you are wrong when you try to so exalt the Kenyan education or so called favourable life indices above that of Nigeria.
Kenya is developing and developing fast but that's it, they are not better than Nigeria in all aspects and some of the bogus claims you make on their behalf are half truths or false brought to your notice by Obaderemi and the likes.
That said, l do enjoy your posts and your intelligent approach towards issues.

254tobby:
I told you before these links,blogs that you're struggling to post might be misleading and as you know most of them are claimed and posted by white people,there's nothing you're telling me as facts,I won't continue to argue with you because you're feeling bitter and jealous,concetrate on the whack of your so called giant,even you don't know Kenya's history before and you're busy trying to fight me..

JUST SHUT UP IF YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT KENYA,THESE LINKS ARE JUST PEDDLED WITH RUMOURS BY BLOGGERS WHO ARE HATERS and I guess those bloggers are mostly Nigerians.

Just bring proof that mpesa is a Kenyan start up. No long talk.

obaaderemi:
You never learn, do you? Bring the Times Higher Education ranking and you will still be surprised. Ibadan, one of our " hellhole universities" as labelled by you- even tied at number11 with university of Nairobi on your so called credible Times Higher Education ranking and you still have more Nigerian universities there than Kenyan. Are you now saying Kenyan universities are bigger hellholes (permit me to borrow your term) than Nigerian universities?

https://studentnewsgrid.com/2017/11/times-higher-education-africa-university-rankings-2018/ I am tired of arguing with people with high falluting opinions.

That guy is always trying to be politically correct. l have nothing against that but at least we must learn to call a spade a spade.

Princesteve7248:
The guy is really making us proud...OBO

Making you proud.

theenchanter:
pls, leave this guy. Stop giving him attention.

Most of the nonsense u guys argue about on this thread is baseless.

This one is not baseless to me.

rvp20182:
About 10 yrs ago - there were about only 7 public and I think 4 universities in Kenya - that number has seen exploded to over 70 universities - enrollment has moved from around 80K to more than half million students. That basically is difference btw Nigeria and Kenya. Kenya is making incredible and tremendous progress - the last 15yrs has been nothing but transformative - and if we sustain that for another 15yrs - then South Africa has to be worried. Nigeria is basically regressing - the older generation Nigeria are more educated than younger generation - and that to me is the biggest worry - Nigeria really need to turn the corner.

Kenya now has gone slow on university expansion - now we are focusing on quality - so very soon expect those 70-100 kenyan universities to climb up in ranking.

The focus for growth now is middle level college (technical colleges) - and we have built about 300 new ones to add to the existing ones. These are colleges that will produce technical skills required to manufacture and build stuff - welders, masons, carptenters,plumbers, electricians,tailors and such kinds of jobs.

Pick any stats of Kenya - and in last 10 or about years - we have grown it 6-7 times and it appears in another 10yrs - we could similarly grow those numbers by 6-7 times - we are far from marginal utility.

So why not just say Kenya is growing rather than coming out to defend some bogus claim that you are better than this or that in all aspects.

pri3stess:
I said he created the formula for fast computers, meaning, without him, the fastest computer may not have been created as soon as it was.

Your skepticism shows how low you feel about yourself. No offense.

l am skeptical because no matter how much you claim we have invented individually, we haven't done much collectively to better our nation.
Philip Emegwali was a Genius though and won noble prices for supercomputing, but it is believed that not all his claims were true. You can find out more on this and then tell me what you think.

pri3stess:
Nigeria has very intelligent people. The problem with Nigeria is that the system is not set up to tap into our talents.

Developed countries invest in their citizens, people get grants in developed countries to do research. Corporations also spend a lot of money on innovation. Its easier to get loans with low interest in developed nations. Not so easy in Nigeria, because of this, entrepreneurship is not highly encouraged.

When Nigerians invent something, advancements are not encouraged and those inventions die with the creator. There are so many Nigerians that have built, cars, planes, motorcycles by themselves. If the government cared, we would have our own car, plane manufacturing factories by now.

We may not thrive at home but when we travel abroad to countries where finances and support are easier to attain, the sky is our limit.

Africans are not cursed, We just have lazy, shameless, selfish, power-hungry leaders.

Those lazy, shameless, selfish, power hungry leaders are also black, they were chosen from amongst us as the most qualified to lead this very intelligent black race. How can we claim to be intelligent and yet choose these leaders as the best from amongst us?. lt means there's something fundamentally wrong with us.

pri3stess:
I said he created the formula for fast computers, meaning, without him, the fastest computer may not have been created as soon as it was.

Your skepticism shows how low you feel about yourself. No offense.

Even that is disputable, go find out more about his claim, l know what you are talking about.

pri3stess:
Don't say that. Africa is blessed with so many Natural resources. Without Africa, alot of those European countries would be very poor. They don't have as many natural resources as we do to thrive.

l agree, but natural resources alone is not something to boast about rather human resources is what brings sustainable development . Africa has that too, but the potentials are way underutilized.