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jason123: LOL! Why do people beef Lagos state?!And who is beefing lagos? R u sure u have been following the thread...people tried to say Lagos was developed in a particular way and another set of people said no... How does that amount to beefing Lagos? I have pointed out that the reasons for development are...1..the way the british treated it differently from other places initially, 2...it later was the capital of the country, and benefited from funds from across the county 3...Growth in Lagos exploded with the oil boom... But someone here says it the level of tolerance of the people....can u beat that reasoning? Pls kindly show me where the 13% only applies to 9ja delta states?...because my understanding is that 13% should apply to all revenues generated by states. Please dont make me lauge further by saying lagos state is producing so much oil but does not need the extra 13% from oil.....because i know for a fact that Lagos has being trying to get more money from the VAT, and port revenues....i dont believe they will let that substantial revenue go becuase or what u call oil.politics..... Its either they produce no oil or very little.....but that still does not negate the fact that oil from the.9ja deta played a major role in development of lagos |
alj harem: Isoko don disappear ?Make me what ever you want me to be, I am ok with that...just take the points I am raising... |
alj harem: We are not parasites, we do not need any 13 % deviation. No thanks keep that to yourselfBros, every starte that produces oil get 13% of their produce, and you claimed Lagos produce oil, so where is the 13% lagos should be getting? Or is lagos also very generous, in addition to being the most tolerant? |
alj harem: LOL No you did not because YOU ARE NOT ISOKO THUS IT DOES NOT COME NATURALLY TO YOU !I can be what ever you want me to be, its all in your mind man....y over flogging the issue... Please show me where I said I was any other thing apart from Isoko like you claimed? GEJ is sharing more money to the SW because they are more hard working Mannnnnnn what where grades in school like?Nobody is saying your should not develop lagos to any extent you want it, just do it with your own resources, is that asking too much? sorry...dont answer that...it actually is.... |
alj harem:so what is the share of lagos 13% derivation? |
alj harem: Ok now you are Isoko, Now I would write Isoko for you. Please translateLet me try "alj harem is a fvucedup negro still trying to continue in his foollish ways" did I get it? |
alj harem: Iddeitic statementYopu are not getting my point, even if all the best scientist in world are part of the yoruba family they are not better than the rest of us nigerians, so stop tring to pass that impression.....british, American, germans are not better or smarter than people of the niger delta, how much more yoruba... |
alj harem: My brother, you claimed you were urhobo, I caught you outMr bro from the dull and lazy side...I am isoko tru and tru, I dont have to defend myself before you....listen to the truth I am saying |
alj harem: We are not tribalistic but when some elements take our kindness, gentleness for weakness then it is good to set the record straight.every ethnicity is equal in warri where I leave and other parts of southern nigeria, so whats you point? how does this make you better than others, how did this contribute to lagos developing faster than other cities in nigeria? |
Rhino.5dm:And so, how deos that translate to going to school in Lagos how does that change what I said about yorubas looking down on others? |
alj harem: Where did I say binis are part of yoruba subgroup ?Ok, I get you...we are all part of the family of nigeria, change user name? for where...u must be afraid that a benin person will come up and challange this ldiotic statement. |
Rhino.5dm:R you are liar or what? where have you seen my living in lagos in anyting I have done or said? is it by force? Ahj harem insist I am Igbo, now we are we are forcing people to accept you we want them to be...na wa ooo |
Rhino.5dm:What gives that crazy impression? I went to school in Lagos? |
alj harem: The longest man made wall if I remember quite correctly is the great wall of China and not benin. Moreover Benin is a family of Odua thus partially Yoruba and their achievement is the joy of all Yorubas and Yoruba achievement is the Joy of Bini people. Go figure, of course NL would tell us a different thing.Just see your mentality....Yorubas are the best and Bini are now part of the yoruba sub group?? you have a long way to go brother. |
Look at us , we r best in nigeria, see how we developed lagos with our creativity and labour, we are tired of those disturbing us in our lagos, we have the first university and the first televistation in africa, so that makes others inferior to us, we are the most educated so we determine how to manage others resources and where to manage it form, our party is the best, we have the most sophisticated electorate, we don't vote corrupt people, the yorubas dont believe in cheating, we are the most tolerant, we have the best governor, there is oil in Lagos so lets spread the joy. Abuja is oil money, lagos is yoruba sagacity. Presently our own party people in senate and HOR are rejecting their own share of the mega allowances, we need true federalism where the FG continues to share oil money. We are the most advances but just need to have a watered down cost price crude products. What a bunch of people!! |
From 1900 to 1963 see the development spread as a result of being the federal capital where development was concentrated, the period oild was discovered.. 1963 to 1984 and beyond...see explosion in urban development... and some mugus clain it all about yoruba ingenuity.... u will die upside down!!
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alj harem: It is good that the truth is gradually coming out. Before we say A and B some iddeeiots would say Crude oil developed this, we developed that. LOLMalu brain, is there any place that did not have some level of development before oil? such a retard |
Katsumoto: You are trying to make sense but your post still reeks of ignorance and bad belle. alj harem: You sir are a parasite ! Shebi na how una dey talk amLook at these two boffuns, one is insisting that I am an Igbo mand and the other is insisting that I have eyes on lagos?? You guys make me laugh..... The yorubas can boast of having the first in some stuff, others can also boast of being the first at other things too, check the benin moat...the longest earth made wall in the world....You are not better than any other person or tribe...you are average like the rest of us... Fistly lagos colony was capital of the country, even if lagos island was the capital as you claim, the fact that the FG concentrated it development there meant that surrounding areas would also experience development. Your claims that after 1967 when lagos was converted to a state, it started to recieve state alocations does not acknowledge the fact that Lagos was still the federal capital up on till 1991 or so.. Y r u like this? It like saying Abuja like other states is recieveing oil funds, but the reason Abuja is developing faster than other places is because Gwari people are more tolerant, more sharper and brighter than others.. Natural resources require human resources to be tapped abi...and the resources can only be found in yorubaland...this is why I have a fundamental problem with yourkind of reasoning...You have to accept that you are no better than the rest, otherwise you remain a F00l. "convivial and safe atmosphere in Lagos is down to the hospitability of the indigenes of Lagos" r u for real tell me one place in southern nigeria that does not have the same? check history of Lagos and see how the british subdued Lagos and administered it differently from the rest of Nigeria...This type of administration and rule of the british is what gave rise to growth of Lagos, not exceptional smartness of yoruba people...go to warri, and PH, Benin and see people mixing freely, apart from the clanish artitude of the yorubas.At ahj harem, I agree that I am a parasite because as a trained engineer, I am not producing value I feel I should be adding to society, maybe due to my own fault or the society I find myself, but thats another issue for debate...now the question is how do you see yourselve? do you realise what value you could be adding, or are you wallowing in ignorance, satisfied that yorubas are better than the rest of the country? just be casue they were luckier to have had some things go their way? I am a strong believer in the theory that any place can become anything at any time, what is required is the adequate detrermination to make it, so why on earth should I be envious of Lagos?? Abuja became what it is under 20 years? there were 60,000 living in lagos in 1860 according to wikipedia so please tell me yyyyyy? I simple just need you guys to stop braging about how good you are, forget about free stuff and depending on resources of minorities like leeches, roll up sleeves and demand for a better structured country... Being the first at anything does not make you better than your fellow country men...get that into your thick skulls.... The south south is asking for resource control, true federlism, the south east too is will go go along even when a number of their states may loose oil revenue, the north Kpa Kpa has said outright..we r lazy and cant survive without this oil...a truthfull, though wrong response... The SW is another matter altogether...they preach true federalism, resource control in public, but their actions show that actually show that they are really interested in protecting and protesting a lazy structure that currently obtains |
Ileke-IdI:My apologises, it was actually meant for a more intelligent audience |
These hypocrites keep coming to tell us they are better than the rest of us....i wonder why someone like me living in warri would start claiming Lagos, doesn't it make more sence to claim Abuja, london or newyork? If people are saying they have invested so much in a place, and as a result need to have a say in the running of the place, thats another thing, But if the indigenous people do not accept you, u pack ur bags and leave, Any body that feels that any particular place is the beginning and end of life needs to wake up.... How lagos became developed was from the national purse, just like Abuja today....it wasnt because yorubas are smarter than others...period. Sorry i dont want ur lagos, or even Abuja....i am quite in waffi city and pitaqua...the truth just has to be told...... The whole underlaying scheme of this thread is to subject the subconscious mind of some weaklings that the yorubas are a better race, and i am always on stand by to shoot down that philosophy. Claims of being the most tolerant, the most intelligent, the most sophisticated bla bla bla......but yet clinging on to resources of the minorities like sickened vultures. Please feel free to do what ever u want with Lagos, it is a yoruba state, but dont come here to tell me that yorubas developed the place solely or that oil did not or does not play a role in the building of Lagos. Hypocratic leech! |
These hypocrites keep coming to tell us they are better than the rest of us....i wonder why someone like me living in warri would start claiming Lagos, doesn't it make more sence to claim Abuja, london or newyork? If people are saying they have invested so much in a place, and as a result need to have a say in the running of the place, thats another thing, But if the indigenous people do not accept you, u pack ur bags and leave, Any body that feels that any particular place is the beginning and end of life needs to wake up.... How lagos became developed was from the national purse, just like Abuja today....it wasnt because yorubas are smarter than others...period. Sorry i dont want ur lagos, or even Abuja....i am quite in waffi city and pitaqua...the truth just has to be told...... The whole underlaying scheme of this thread is to subject the subconscious mind of some weaklings that the yorubas are a better race, and i am always on stand by to shoot down that philosophy. Claims of being the most tolerant, the most intelligent, the most sophisticated bla bla bla......but yet clinging on to resources of the minorities like sickened vultures. Please feel free to do what ever u want with Lagos, it is a yoruba state, but dont come here to tell me that yorubas developed the place solely or that oil did not or does not play a role in the building of Lagos. Hypocratic leech! |
Aigbofa: He actually stopped the whole of Nigeria from fulfilling it's economic destiny. A country like Nigeria should be comparing herself with the likes of South Korea, Malaysia and the rest.Are we talking about the same man that was killed 6months after he announced unitary government? I wonder what stopped to that killed him from reversing the unitary government immediately? Awo was a very powerful minister of finance in Gowons government, apart from recommending genocide via blockade against Igbos, do you think he might have just slipped to thought to Gowon about returning back to the peoper federal structure which Ojukwu had demanded for? Maybe Awo forgot about federal structure because it was the early 70s and the oil boom money was being used to build all sorts of structures in Lagos as the capital...and the hypocrisy in Awo got the better of him. |
[quote author=Aigbofa][/quote]I don't understand, the myopic igbo stopped the rest of the SW but couldn't stop that in Lagos? What Lagos part of Benin republic at any point in time....ur attempts to potray ur selves as superior to others is just outrightly shamefully..... |
alj harem: LOL, I seriously pity Niger-delta if they carry your sort of mentality. Ok I would use Lagos as an example.Wait ooo, so Lagos state is also receiving 13% derivation? How much oil is produced there to be exact? Well good for them, weather they produce real or imagined oil, it doesn't change anything. I hope u know that both new york and Texas states pay tax to sustain the US federal government? The state of newyork does not depend on resources from texas so. The USA has always had more crude oil than Nigeria since 1900, and they never decided tru out their history to share it to every body and encourage laziness.. |
alj harem: LOL, I seriously pity Niger-delta if they carry your sort of mentality. Ok I would use Lagos as an example. |
alj harem: LOLYou obviously have not been in a court of law, or are daft to the facts the AG raised... |
alj harem: @ Johndeo and other NDersI used to think you were trying to trivialize issues until I realized the issues at stake are too big for you mind to cope with, feel free to go out and protest how and where ever you want...please feel free to jail who ever you catch...asking for resource control is not the same as asking for Yoruba and Hausa to stop working for oil companies, it will only mean they would report to land owners of the resources who are sharp enuf to make money out of their natural gifts...instead of a situation where the land owners have to dance to the tunes of the Hausa and Yoruba under the guise of federal government. Alams and Ibori have been sentenced and FG had made seizures of properties and finances abi? Now you want me to ask them to be accountable abi? Ahj Harem, please answer a few questions? does the system encourage corruption or not? 1-Do you think arresting a few politicians can resolve the current level of corruption? 2-Do you think the current structure where states wait for revenue instead of paying taxes is the best? 3-Do you think the FG should be the one distributing PMS and Kero? You cannot not have proper accountability without proper assignment and definition of responsibilities, I find it laughable that people actually expect a state governor to be loyal and responsible to the people of the state when the FG is his paymaster...in primary school we were told that he who plays the piper dictates the tune, but it seams Ahj harem expects the tunes to be dictated by by-standers... Only lazy bottom feeders and freebie loving leaches interpret asking for resource control as asking for split and Yoruba and Hausas not to work in oil companies....what a small brain...lol since asari and co started mend, the situation in 9ja delta has not changed drastically but the consciousness is rising, we are gradually taking control of our resource and guess whos the most scared |
Prepare for mass protest over resource control, dalover tells Nigerians-nairaland |
dounleedee: GEJ apologists should applaud themselves. They have spoken the minds of Niger Deltans. Hooray!!!Guy look, we are saying don't bring deltans into a superficial fight, we have had authentic fights in which we have not asked the SW to be wholly involved...the fight against corruption has seen Alams in prison, Ibori in prison and more will follow suit,,, but guess what, it will not change anything...why would I be stupid enuf to embark on protest that will not achieve anything... Soyinka is a great person, but remains human...he recently said there is no need for an SNC, a position I have been canvasing for a while now, because non of the other ldiots asking for SNC realize that people who really want the structure of the Nation to remain the same will form the bulk of reps at the SNC....On this particular subject I do not agree with him. He needs to go back to his original ideals where he preached right to self determination, reduced government interference in peoples life, a people run government that starts from grass roots upwards. He has never been known to fight for freebies and awuf. There is a difference between an END/objective and a means to an end, what do you want to achieve by the protest ok, lets assume we arrest and try some offenders, then jail them, then what next?In sensible countries when lapses occur that allow monumental corruption, the key questions that always arise is, how can the system be upgraded so that such opportunities will not occur again...I am not saying that those found guilty should not be prosecuted! Check out the changes Obama introduced since the last economic melt down.... You claim to be a Deltan, go to goggle and search Ijaw protests, or protests in NigerDelta...we have been protesting for many years about a systems that creates lGAs and states for the sole purpose of sharing conquered loot..99% of Nigerians refer to crude as "our free oil", and you are telling me about GEJ apologist? Halliburton scandal, pension probe, power projects, Nafcon issue, NSL so on and so on and so forth.....what is the difference between all these and the subsidy scandal ? If you don't know or pretend not to know, the difference is that the key participants dared to remove the subsidy which the masses see as their own share of the loot, their own distribution of the oil wealth All other corruption cases can go almost unnoticed but people are ready to die for this one...I realize that there are some lost cases like Aljharem, kobojunkie and others, but there are also some potential leaders out there who do not need to be mislead on issues like this. If you cannot see the fundamental issue at stake here, let me say it again..Deltans will gladly join street protest, fighting or what so ever to achieve a structural change in the system. We have been fighting our battles since, nor bi today matter....if you like to tribalise or trivialize it, feel free to do so but try enter the streets of Warri to fight for free PMS and anything your head see, come tell us... |
So where is the Itsekiri land? From what I can see the warri town is shared between three tribes, warri south west has som many Ijaw towns including Tompolos gbamaturu clans....the entire stretch of the three warri lgas has major components of Ijaw and Itsekiri cris crossing each other, how do you carve out the itsekiri land ? You people should not kill me with laughter. |
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Mannnnnnn what where grades in school like?
