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PoliticsRe: Pictures Of Lagos Before Crude Oil And Independence by DaLover(m): 5:24pm On May 05, 2012
jason123: LOL! Why do people beef Lagos state?!

Btw, Dalover, EVERY SOUTHERN STATE HAS OIL. Stop the silly propaganda please!
About the 13%, that is the politics of oil in Nigeria. If you are not a "Niger-delta" state, you cannot have 13%. Even if you produce more oil.

That is what happened to[b] Anambra, Ogun and Lagos[/b]! Try to research more on it before you get carried away with propaganda!
And who is beefing lagos? R u sure u have been following the thread...people tried to say Lagos was developed in a particular way and another set of people said no... How does that amount to beefing Lagos?

I have pointed out that the reasons for development are...1..the way the british treated it differently from other places initially, 2...it later was the capital of the country, and benefited from funds from across the county 3...Growth in Lagos exploded with the oil boom...

But someone here says it the level of tolerance of the people....can u beat that reasoning?

Pls kindly show me where the 13% only applies to 9ja delta states?...because my understanding is that 13% should apply to all revenues generated by states.
Please dont make me lauge further by saying lagos state is producing so much oil but does not need the extra 13% from oil.....because i know for a fact that Lagos has being trying to get more money from the VAT, and port revenues....i dont believe they will let that substantial revenue go becuase or what u call oil.politics.....

Its either they produce no oil or very little.....but that still does not negate the fact that oil from the.9ja deta played a major role in development of lagos
PoliticsRe: Pictures Of Lagos Before Crude Oil And Independence by DaLover(m): 12:39pm On May 05, 2012
alj harem: Isoko don disappear ? shocked shocked shocked I guess It is easy to claim Isoko given that we do not have a lot in the political section.

shame
Make me what ever you want me to be, I am ok with that...just take the points I am raising...
PoliticsRe: Pictures Of Lagos Before Crude Oil And Independence by DaLover(m): 12:37pm On May 05, 2012
alj harem: We are not parasites, we do not need any 13 % deviation. No thanks keep that to yourself

Yorubas say in Kogi dialect Okene "Isey Agbe ni Isey Ile wa, eni ko isey a ja le ni " Meaning being a farmer is the job of our ancestors/land, anybody that does not work would steal.

We are not thieves neither are we lazy, Oil is a natural resource, we rather look for other ways of getting money thus people like you go to Unilag to go school thus generating revenue for the state.

Infact the only good thing that ever came out of Southern Nigeria is Fashola, Rochas and donald Duke. The rest are failures.
Bros, every starte that produces oil get 13% of their produce, and you claimed Lagos produce oil, so where is the 13% lagos should be getting? Or is lagos also very generous, in addition to being the most tolerant?
PoliticsRe: Pictures Of Lagos Before Crude Oil And Independence by DaLover(m): 12:35pm On May 05, 2012
alj harem: LOL No you did not because YOU ARE NOT ISOKO THUS IT DOES NOT COME NATURALLY TO YOU !

I am sorry, please try another Niger-delta group

As your sister Willy-willy has tried Ogoni before, you can also do the same grin grin
I can be what ever you want me to be, its all in your mind man....y over flogging the issue...

Please show me where I said I was any other thing apart from Isoko like you claimed?

GEJ is sharing more money to the SW because they are more hard workinghuh Mannnnnnn what where grades in school like?

Nobody is saying your should not develop lagos to any extent you want it, just do it with your own resources, is that asking too much? sorry...dont answer that...it actually is....
PoliticsRe: Pictures Of Lagos Before Crude Oil And Independence by DaLover(m): 12:27pm On May 05, 2012
alj harem: cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry

LOL
cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy Oil Oil Oil

crude oil discovered in Lagos

http://allafrica.com/stories/201005120207.html

Crude oil in Ondo

http://www.coastalnews.com/profile/government-profile/638-ilaje-local-government-ondo-state-nigeria.html

So dalover, we are on our own Ok !!! Go hug die if you no like am.

Again of course you are free to migrate, please when you do, keep your tribalistic tendency to yourself if not you probably be mobbed, go ask your brothers in Lagos. smiley
so what is the share of lagos 13% derivation?
PoliticsRe: Pictures Of Lagos Before Crude Oil And Independence by DaLover(m): 12:23pm On May 05, 2012
alj harem: Ok now you are Isoko, Now I would write Isoko for you. Please translate

Beko please do

Aja wa oooooo, ana haiokpota biomu uromume
Let me try
"alj harem is a fvucedup negro still trying to continue in his foollish ways"

did I get it?
PoliticsRe: Pictures Of Lagos Before Crude Oil And Independence by DaLover(m): 12:22pm On May 05, 2012
alj harem: Iddeitic statement grin grin grin is it you or papabrown maybe it is beaf or edicolove, Let me remind you that Obiagu1 formed a thread to confirmed this. I am not afraid. If any Bini man comes and disclaim what I said, then good luck. Even brothers have different destiny. I hope your understand smiley

ACN winning Edo state is not by Luck, Go figure
Yopu are not getting my point, even if all the best scientist in world are part of the yoruba family they are not better than the rest of us nigerians, so stop tring to pass that impression.....british, American, germans are not better or smarter than people of the niger delta, how much more yoruba...
PoliticsRe: Pictures Of Lagos Before Crude Oil And Independence by DaLover(m): 12:15pm On May 05, 2012
alj harem: My brother, you claimed you were urhobo, I caught you out

Then Isoko, you could not tranlate

Now Ijaw, Ok what is the meaning of this please tranlate in english

viinmo balabala

Translate from Ijaw to english
Mr bro from the dull and lazy side...I am isoko tru and tru, I dont have to defend myself before you....listen to the truth I am saying
PoliticsRe: Pictures Of Lagos Before Crude Oil And Independence by DaLover(m): 12:13pm On May 05, 2012
alj harem: We are not tribalistic but when some elements take our kindness, gentleness for weakness then it is good to set the record straight.

I have Igbo friend, both the secure and insecure. I can sure you that every ethnicity is equal in Lagos. It is NL tribalistis that would try to turn Lagos to an Only yoruba city rather than a Nigerian state.

We are one people before the eyes of Allah.
every ethnicity is equal in warri where I leave and other parts of southern nigeria, so whats you point? how does this make you better than others, how did this contribute to lagos developing faster than other cities in nigeria?
PoliticsRe: Pictures Of Lagos Before Crude Oil And Independence by DaLover(m): 12:11pm On May 05, 2012
Rhino.5dm:
what gives that crazy impression? Your last map shows a computer name. Check it out yourself.
And so, how deos that translate to going to school in Lagoshuh how does that change what I said about yorubas looking down on others?
PoliticsRe: Pictures Of Lagos Before Crude Oil And Independence by DaLover(m): 12:10pm On May 05, 2012
alj harem: Where did I say binis are part of yoruba subgroup ?

I said a family of odua, no Bini man would deny that. Of course it would not take likes of you more than 3 mins to make a new Username claiming bini. I have spoken to real bini people before, No Bini man even the Oba would deny that.

It does not mean they are a yoruba subgroup.

Again this best thing is really eating u up my brother. Just accept the fact that YOU have nothing on them, go face your leaders and demand accountability from them rather than disturbing a group of people far ahead of yours. Who's fault is that ?

We don't mind joining the protest, but your tribalistic ranting is not helping matters.
Ok, I get you...we are all part of the family of nigeria, change user name? for where...u must be afraid that a benin person will come up and challange this ldiotic statement.
PoliticsRe: Pictures Of Lagos Before Crude Oil And Independence by DaLover(m): 12:07pm On May 05, 2012
Rhino.5dm:
The last map he posted shows the name of the computer he is using[b](which should be his name) [/b]and quick facebook search shows that he lives in Lagos and schooled there. If that the case then why the hating?
R you are liar or what? where have you seen my living in lagos in anyting I have done or said? is it by force? Ahj harem insist I am Igbo, now we are we are forcing people to accept you we want them to be...na wa ooo
PoliticsRe: Pictures Of Lagos Before Crude Oil And Independence by DaLover(m): 12:04pm On May 05, 2012
Rhino.5dm:
@ DaLover

But you went to school in Lagos and still live in Lagos?
What gives that crazy impression? I went to school in Lagos?
PoliticsRe: Pictures Of Lagos Before Crude Oil And Independence by DaLover(m): 12:00pm On May 05, 2012
alj harem: The longest man made wall if I remember quite correctly is the great wall of China and not benin. Moreover Benin is a family of Odua thus partially Yoruba and their achievement is the joy of all Yorubas and Yoruba achievement is the Joy of Bini people. Go figure, of course NL would tell us a different thing.

Awori was part of the benin kingdom so technically the honours is mine as well. Thanks smiley grin grin

Now as for the ranting. Don't worry it is ok After Yorubas finish building the first and largest man made island in Africa, the next projects would be to Build a railway that links all Odua territory in Nigeria, then constant electricity
Just see your mentality....Yorubas are the best and Bini are now part of the yoruba sub group?? you have a long way to go brother.
PoliticsRe: Pictures Of Lagos Before Crude Oil And Independence by DaLover(m): 11:22am On May 05, 2012
Look at us ,
we r best in nigeria, see how we developed lagos with our creativity and labour, we are tired of those disturbing us in our lagos, we have the first university and the first televistation in africa, so that makes others inferior to us, we are the most educated so we determine how to manage others resources and where to manage it form, our party is the best, we have the most sophisticated electorate, we don't vote corrupt people, the yorubas dont believe in cheating, we are the most tolerant, we have the best governor, there is oil in Lagos so lets spread the joy. Abuja is oil money, lagos is yoruba sagacity.
Presently our own party people in senate and HOR are rejecting their own share of the mega allowances, we need true federalism where the FG continues to share oil money. We are the most advances but just need to have a watered down cost price crude products.
What a bunch of people!!
PoliticsRe: Pictures Of Lagos Before Crude Oil And Independence by DaLover(m): 11:08am On May 05, 2012
From 1900 to 1963 see the development spread as a result of being the federal capital where development was concentrated, the period oild was discovered.. 1963 to 1984 and beyond...see explosion in urban development... and some mugus clain it all about yoruba ingenuity.... u will die upside down!!

PoliticsRe: Pictures Of Lagos Before Crude Oil And Independence by DaLover(m): 11:00am On May 05, 2012
alj harem: It is good that the truth is gradually coming out. Before we say A and B some iddeeiots would say Crude oil developed this, we developed that. LOL
Malu brain, is there any place that did not have some level of development before oil? such a retard
PoliticsRe: Pictures Of Lagos Before Crude Oil And Independence by DaLover(m): 10:54am On May 05, 2012
Katsumoto: You are trying to make sense but your post still reeks of ignorance and bad belle.

1. Lagos Island was the Capital of Nigeria. The Metropolitan areas of Lagos such as Ilupeju, Shomolu, Ikorodu, Agege, Epe, Surulere, Badagry, etc were all parts of the Western Region. The Western Region was administered from Ibadan with proceeds of Cocoa. Before Cocoa proceeds went into Lagos, it was partially built with the sweat of Lagos indigenes, Agudas, Saros, Egba, and Ijebu merchants.

2. Lagos became a state by virtue of degree 14 of 1967. At that point, Lagos, like all other Nigerian states started receiving proceeds of oil. This comments about Oil developing Lagos, did oil money not build roads, parastatals, hospitals, schools in other parts of Nigeria? Why the emphasis on Lagos. Can any of you point to the developments in Ikoyi, Lekki, Victoria island, ilupeju, Ikeja, Badagry, etc? The most developed and exclusive parts of Lagos are Ikoyi, Ikeja, and Victoria Island

3. Natural resources still require human resources for them to be tapped.

4. Yes, you can live in Warri and still have your eyes on Lagos because Lagos is a more developed city that Warri.

5. The convivial and safe atmosphere in Lagos is down to the hospitability of the indigenes of Lagos; don't ever forget that. If they didn't provide an environment where all can go to, then Lagos will not be the city it is. London, New york are cosmopolitan cities with huge numbers of migrants but it was something that attracted those immigrants to those places.

6. Some of you sometimes forget that population explosions can sometimes be harmful to an environment. For instance, many are talking about the funds Lagos received from the government but how many of you have attempted to calculate the negative costs to Lagos? What is the cost of polution, disease, armed robbery, bad roads, over-utlilised public facilities such as schools, hospitals, etc, blocked drainage, etc? Until an attempt can at least be made at calculating these negative externalities, no one can tell whether Lagos benefitted or lost more from it being the capital of Nigeria for a mere 2 decades.
alj harem: You sir are a parasite ! Shebi na how una dey talk am

I am a Lagos indigene and I can tell you that Your oil or Your government had little or no impact on Lagos. Likes of Dangote, Adenuga, Ben Bruce etc made Lagos what it is.

We lagosians are not clinging on to any minority not to talk of resources. Maybe you need to go check your facts right. The highest revenue after Oil is Cocoa. Non-oil based state is Lagos (In terms of revenue)

Why did your GEJ give SW the highest allocation after SS ? Ask yourself, You think say na beans

I want you to understand my ingliush

1. You are not a SS but an Igbo man

2. You as an Igbo man pray for the downfall of SW and to an extent Lagos because of some reasons best known to you.

3. SS resources was and would never have an impact on Lagos or the SW

4. Tell your parasitic brothers to stop carrying ghana must go and saying "Mama village don tire me, I dey go Lagos" Only for you to come and commit crime and rituals

5. Lagos does not start and end with Yoruba, I have said it times without number. Lagos and indeed the entire SW region of Nigeria is a melting point for all ethnicity that is why your father or your father's friend was able to get educated. Go ask them.

6. We Yorubas might not be the strongest or smartest tribe according to you but we hold 3 things very strong and that is why we keep moving from strength to strength. Those things are God/Allah/Olodumare, hope and believe

We believe in our strength and we are not partial if not we would have been destroyed.

Till today the yorubas set the pace from the first television station in africa before France(WNTV aka NTA your father watches on his bed) to the first highraise building aka sky scraper (Cocoa house ibadan) to first free education before the British. To free health etc

Now we have set the standards again because unlike you that your are too bigoted to ask for accountability from your leaders. We are not like that, we protest against "our sons and daugthers" in power if they misuse it.

Today Yorubas can boast of the first man made Island in Africa. Alhamdu lillah

It is not by yorubas power but by faith in God. Keep hating while they move from strength to strength

Now we are talking of light rail and constant electrity. Very soon Mama I dey go lagos would come and tell us it is Oil money. LOL

Ingrates
Look at these two boffuns, one is insisting that I am an Igbo mand and the other is insisting that I have eyes on lagos?? You guys make me laugh.....

The yorubas can boast of having the first in some stuff, others can also boast of being the first at other things too, check the benin moat...the longest earth made wall in the world....You are not better than any other person or tribe...you are average like the rest of us...

Fistly lagos colony was capital of the country, even if lagos island was the capital as you claim, the fact that the FG concentrated it development there meant that surrounding areas would also experience development.

Your claims that after 1967 when lagos was converted to a state, it started to recieve state alocations does not acknowledge the fact that Lagos was still the federal capital up on till 1991 or so.. Y r u like this? It like saying Abuja like other states is recieveing oil funds, but the reason Abuja is developing faster than other places is because Gwari people are more tolerant, more sharper and brighter than others..

Natural resources require human resources to be tapped abi...and the resources can only be found in yorubaland...this is why I have a fundamental problem with yourkind of reasoning...You have to accept that you are no better than the rest, otherwise you remain a F00l.

"convivial and safe atmosphere in Lagos is down to the hospitability of the indigenes of Lagos" r u for realhuh tell me one place in southern nigeria that does not have the same? check history of Lagos and see how the british subdued Lagos and administered it differently from the rest of Nigeria...This type of administration and rule of the british is what gave rise to growth of Lagos, not exceptional smartness of yoruba people...go to warri, and PH, Benin and see people mixing freely, apart from the clanish artitude of the yorubas.



At ahj harem, I agree that I am a parasite because as a trained engineer, I am not producing value I feel I should be adding to society, maybe due to my own fault or the society I find myself, but thats another issue for debate...now the question is how do you see yourselve? do you realise what value you could be adding, or are you wallowing in ignorance, satisfied that yorubas are better than the rest of the country? just be casue they were luckier to have had some things go their way?

I am a strong believer in the theory that any place can become anything at any time, what is required is the adequate detrermination to make it, so why on earth should I be envious of Lagos?? Abuja became what it is under 20 years? there were 60,000 living in lagos in 1860 according to wikipedia so please tell me yyyyyy?

I simple just need you guys to stop braging about how good you are, forget about free stuff and depending on resources of minorities like leeches, roll up sleeves and demand for a better structured country...


Being the first at anything does not make you better than your fellow country men...get that into your thick skulls....

The south south is asking for resource control, true federlism, the south east too is will go go along even when a number of their states may loose oil revenue, the north Kpa Kpa has said outright..we r lazy and cant survive without this oil...a truthfull, though wrong response...
The SW is another matter altogether...they preach true federalism, resource control in public, but their actions show that actually show that they are really interested in protecting and protesting a lazy structure that currently obtains
PoliticsRe: Pictures Of Lagos Before Crude Oil And Independence by DaLover(m): 12:36am On May 05, 2012
Ileke-IdI:
Alibaba, plz calm down.

You're not making sense.
My apologises, it was actually meant for a more intelligent audience
PoliticsRe: Pictures Of Lagos Before Crude Oil And Independence by DaLover(m): 12:34am On May 05, 2012
These hypocrites keep coming to tell us they are better than the rest of us....i wonder why someone like me living in warri would start claiming Lagos, doesn't it make more sence to claim Abuja, london or newyork?
If people are saying they have invested so much in a place, and as a result need to have a say in the running of the place, thats another thing,
But if the indigenous people do not accept you, u pack ur bags and leave, Any body that feels that any particular place is the beginning and end of life needs to wake up....

How lagos became developed was from the national purse, just like Abuja today....it wasnt because yorubas are smarter than others...period. Sorry i dont want ur lagos, or even Abuja....i am quite in waffi city and pitaqua...the truth just has to be told......

The whole underlaying scheme of this thread is to subject the subconscious mind of some weaklings that the yorubas are a better race, and i am always on stand by to shoot down that philosophy.

Claims of being the most tolerant, the most intelligent, the most sophisticated bla bla bla......but yet clinging on to resources of the minorities like sickened vultures.

Please feel free to do what ever u want with Lagos, it is a yoruba state, but dont come here to tell me that yorubas developed the place solely or that oil did not or does not play a role in the building of Lagos. Hypocratic leech!
PoliticsRe: Pictures Of Lagos Before Crude Oil And Independence by DaLover(m): 12:29am On May 05, 2012
These hypocrites keep coming to tell us they are better than the rest of us....i wonder why someone like me living in warri would start claiming Lagos, doesn't it make more sence to claim Abuja, london or newyork?
If people are saying they have invested so much in a place, and as a result need to have a say in the running of the place, thats another thing,
But if the indigenous people do not accept you, u pack ur bags and leave, Any body that feels that any particular place is the beginning and end of life needs to wake up....

How lagos became developed was from the national purse, just like Abuja today....it wasnt because yorubas are smarter than others...period. Sorry i dont want ur lagos, or even Abuja....i am quite in waffi city and pitaqua...the truth just has to be told......

The whole underlaying scheme of this thread is to subject the subconscious mind of some weaklings that the yorubas are a better race, and i am always on stand by to shoot down that philosophy.

Claims of being the most tolerant, the most intelligent, the most sophisticated bla bla bla......but yet clinging on to resources of the minorities like sickened vultures.

Please feel free to do what ever u want with Lagos, it is a yoruba state, but dont come here to tell me that yorubas developed the place solely or that oil did not or does not play a role in the building of Lagos. Hypocratic leech!
PoliticsRe: Pictures Of Lagos Before Crude Oil And Independence by DaLover(m): 10:11pm On May 04, 2012
Aigbofa: He actually stopped the whole of Nigeria from fulfilling it's economic destiny. A country like Nigeria should be comparing herself with the likes of South Korea, Malaysia and the rest.
As for Lagos, we should be talking of a world class city, not a choked up, chaotic city where some still live on a refuse dump.

Things are changing though. We cannot remain ignorant forever.
Are we talking about the same man that was killed 6months after he announced unitary government? I wonder what stopped to that killed him from reversing the unitary government immediately? Awo was a very powerful minister of finance in Gowons government, apart from recommending genocide via blockade against Igbos, do you think he might have just slipped to thought to Gowon about returning back to the peoper federal structure which Ojukwu had demanded for?
Maybe Awo forgot about federal structure because it was the early 70s and the oil boom money was being used to build all sorts of structures in Lagos as the capital...and the hypocrisy in Awo got the better of him.
PoliticsRe: Pictures Of Lagos Before Crude Oil And Independence by DaLover(m): 9:47pm On May 04, 2012
[quote author=Aigbofa][/quote]I don't understand, the myopic igbo stopped the rest of the SW but couldn't stop that in Lagos? What Lagos part of Benin republic at any point in time....ur attempts to potray ur selves as superior to others is just outrightly shamefully.....
PoliticsRe: Prepare For Mass Protest Over Subsidy Scam, Soyinka Tells Nigerians-nan by DaLover(m): 3:01am On May 04, 2012
alj harem: LOL, I seriously pity Niger-delta if they carry your sort of mentality. Ok I would use Lagos as an example.

Oil is found in Lagos state and peopel keep moving in displaying the indigenes.

This development alone has displaced the indigenes off their ancestral homes which is even much more painful (go to gaza to find out). But you see, rather then go violent and insist tribalism their we MIX up with the new people. How many times have hausas been the governor of Lagos ? In fact Lagos happen to be the only state where Ijaws would claim an enclave, Igbos would claim their own enclave, Huasa the same, Fulani same etc But you do not see violence. Why you ask, because we have long understood that the suffering of Musa, Ayo and Emeka is NOT different from each other.

Why am I saying this, I am saying it because the way Asari and your likes are talking. Niger-delta republic would not work that way assuming you form una country.

What happens when Isoko land that happens to have no oil and is the capital ? Would Asari come out again and start Mend part 2 against the Isoko ?

How is your suffering different from the average Yoruba or Hausa man on the street ?

Do you think because Otedola is a Yoruba man he give a rat a55 about me ? Yes or No ? Be honest with yourself

Do you think because Dangote is a Hausa man he gives a rat a55 about me ? Yes or no

Do you think because GEJ is an Ijaw man he gives a rat a55 about You or Johndeo ? Yes or no

Go to USA, ask why Texas has not planned to secede or fight an Oil fight because a state like New-york is a parasite to it. It is called thinking ahead. Intelligent thinking.

Ask why Lagos indigenes are not saying they are not yorubas, It is called thinking ahead my brother.

Today in most especially in the niger-delta and Igboland, and community that has few barrels of oil would claim it is an ethnic identity on it own. That sort of mentality has now translated to Nigeria as a whole.

I have never seen the suffering of Niger-delta as different from mine because I believe we are one. When Asari started making bigoted statements you expect that would cure the Niger-delta of the cabal ? LOL

Asari himself has gone fatter than ever before because he himself now does the very thing he condemned.

Majority of the oil spill is caused by likes of Asari when they vandalise pipelines because he is not an engineer.

My brother, Why not direct your anger at likes of Atiku, OBJ etc instead of directing your anger on the Yoruba and Hausa ethnic nationality.
Wait ooo, so Lagos state is also receiving 13% derivation? How much oil is produced there to be exact? Well good for them, weather they produce real or imagined oil, it doesn't change anything.

I hope u know that both new york and Texas states pay tax to sustain the US federal government? The state of newyork does not depend on resources from texas so.

The USA has always had more crude oil than Nigeria since 1900, and they never decided tru out their history to share it to every body and encourage laziness..
PoliticsRe: Prepare For Mass Protest Over Subsidy Scam, Soyinka Tells Nigerians-nan by DaLover(m): 3:00am On May 04, 2012
alj harem: LOL, I seriously pity Niger-delta if they carry your sort of mentality. Ok I would use Lagos as an example.

Oil is found in Lagos state and peopel keep moving in displaying the indigenes.

This development alone has displaced the indigenes off their ancestral homes which is even much more painful (go to gaza to find out). But you see, rather then go violent and insist tribalism their we MIX up with the new people. How many times have hausas been the governor of Lagos ? In fact Lagos happen to be the only state where Ijaws would claim an enclave, Igbos would claim their own enclave, Huasa the same, Fulani same etc But you do not see violence. Why you ask, because we have long understood that the suffering of Musa, Ayo and Emeka is NOT different from each other.

Why am I saying this, I am saying it because the way Asari and your likes are talking. Niger-delta republic would not work that way assuming you form una country.

What happens when Isoko land that happens to have no oil and is the capital ? Would Asari come out again and start Mend part 2 against the Isoko ?

How is your suffering different from the average Yoruba or Hausa man on the street ?

Do you think because Otedola is a Yoruba man he give a rat a55 about me ? Yes or No ? Be honest with yourself

Do you think because Dangote is a Hausa man he gives a rat a55 about me ? Yes or no

Do you think because GEJ is an Ijaw man he gives a rat a55 about You or Johndeo ? Yes or no

Go to USA, ask why Texas has not planned to secede or fight an Oil fight because a state like New-york is a parasite to it. It is called thinking ahead. Intelligent thinking.

Ask why Lagos indigenes are not saying they are not yorubas, It is called thinking ahead my brother.

Today in most especially in the niger-delta and Igboland, and community that has few barrels of oil would claim it is an ethnic identity on it own. That sort of mentality has now translated to Nigeria as a whole.

I have never seen the suffering of Niger-delta as different from mine because I believe we are one. When Asari started making bigoted statements you expect that would cure the Niger-delta of the cabal ? LOL

Asari himself has gone fatter than ever before because he himself now does the very thing he condemned.

Majority of the oil spill is caused by likes of Asari when they vandalise pipelines because he is not an engineer.

My brother, Why not direct your anger at likes of Atiku, OBJ etc instead of directing your anger on the Yoruba and Hausa ethnic nationality.
PoliticsRe: Subsidy Probe Report Indictees Will Not Be Prosecuted – Min Of Justice Adoke by DaLover(m): 2:08am On May 04, 2012
alj harem: LOL grin grin grin grin grin grin ROMFLAO !!! I am happy you are here

Maybe you need to read again or comprehension is your problem here, Along side your goons

Appreently Dantata, Wale Tinubu and Orji would keep enjoying this Oil o !!! So much for fresh air increase in price of fuel grin grin grin grin

Ode people



Enjoy your stu.pidity. as far as I am concerned the extra money from the increment of price of fuel goes to the cabals pocket because they are your economic team. grin grin
You obviously have not been in a court of law, or are daft to the facts the AG raised...
PoliticsRe: Prepare For Mass Protest Over Subsidy Scam, Soyinka Tells Nigerians-nan by DaLover(m): 4:26pm On May 03, 2012
alj harem: @ Johndeo and other NDers

Keep allowing Beaf aka Dalover and his tribalistic goons be deceiving you all using tribalism to cover una eyes.

The problem with some of you is that you are lazy thinkers and lack the basic form of analytical thinking.

You want to stop the Yorubas and Hausas from working in the Nigeria Oil companies ? How is that possible ?

1. Niger-delta or any section of the country have nothing against the Yorubas because they have Oil as well thus quit dreaming

2. Hausas you keep shouting about stealing your oil, you think the best way to get oil blocks back is through tribalism ? My brothers and sisters think again.

3. Even if Nigeria split, these Oil cabals would still be in the Niger-delta because they are not loyal to any ethnic group bit loyal to themselves. Likes of Alams and co would sell these blocks to them !

4. Has corruption been tackled ?

5. When Wole Soyinka was protesting against OBJ, where were for fore-fathers ? Yes they were stealing money to London and co rather then develop the Niger-delta.

6. Where are the billions Ibori and Alams stole ? Why not demand accountability for your leaders rather than blame ethnicity.

I can keep going on and on. Since Asari has started MEND, has the situation of Niger-delta changed ? Yes or No.

What a pity, I wonder what the difference between the suffering of a typical Niger-delta and a typical Nigerian.
I used to think you were trying to trivialize issues until I realized the issues at stake are too big for you mind to cope with, feel free to go out and protest how and where ever you want...please feel free to jail who ever you catch...asking for resource control is not the same as asking for Yoruba and Hausa to stop working for oil companies, it will only mean they would report to land owners of the resources who are sharp enuf to make money out of their natural gifts...instead of a situation where the land owners have to dance to the tunes of the Hausa and Yoruba under the guise of federal government.

Alams and Ibori have been sentenced and FG had made seizures of properties and finances abi? Now you want me to ask them to be accountable abi?


Ahj Harem,
please answer a few questions? does the system encourage corruption or not?
1-Do you think arresting a few politicians can resolve the current level of corruption?
2-Do you think the current structure where states wait for revenue instead of paying taxes is the best?
3-Do you think the FG should be the one distributing PMS and Kero?

You cannot not have proper accountability without proper assignment and definition of responsibilities, I find it laughable that people actually expect a state governor to be loyal and responsible to the people of the state when the FG is his paymaster...in primary school we were told that he who plays the piper dictates the tune, but it seams Ahj harem expects the tunes to be dictated by by-standers...

Only lazy bottom feeders and freebie loving leaches interpret asking for resource control as asking for split and Yoruba and Hausas not to work in oil companies....what a small brain...lol

since asari and co started mend, the situation in 9ja delta has not changed drastically but the consciousness is rising, we are gradually taking control of our resource and guess whos the most scared
PoliticsRe: Prepare For Mass Protest Over Subsidy Scam, Soyinka Tells Nigerians-nan by DaLover(m): 3:17pm On May 03, 2012
Prepare for mass protest over resource control, dalover tells Nigerians-nairaland
PoliticsRe: Prepare For Mass Protest Over Subsidy Scam, Soyinka Tells Nigerians-nan by DaLover(m): 3:12pm On May 03, 2012
dounleedee: GEJ apologists should applaud themselves. They have spoken the minds of Niger Deltans. Hooray!!!
To me, the worst form of slavery and self-colonisation is ignorance.
Prof Wole Soyinka took on OBJ and others before him on corruption without much result, yet he has remained steadfast in his call for a National Conference to change the same system you’re moaning about. If your argument about the lopsided nature of the polity is your reason for being against prosecuting fraudulent Nigerians, how much has the Prof benefited directly from oil subsidy? How much has majority of Deltans benefited from Ibori’s loot, or Bayelsans from Alams? How many Yorubas or Hausas massively benefitted from the past blatant criminally minded award of oil blocks?
Before you condemn us Niger Deltans to the dustbin of history, let us ask ourselves one question:
Can we change the system if our reactions to criminality, fraud and corruption are selective and ethnic based?
Personally, I do not believe in Bakare’s SNG impartiality as a professed politician himself, but in my opinion as a Deltan, I will support 100% any step or action embarked by anyone designed to stem the rot in our communities. When we begin the process, we can always sift the wheat from the chaff. The president’s constituency is Nigeria and not Niger Delta, if the Yorubas and Hausas before us could not do it, it doesn’t not mean we cannot.
Change has to start from somewhere; we should not miss this opportunity.
Guy look, we are saying don't bring deltans into a superficial fight, we have had authentic fights in which we have not asked the SW to be wholly involved...the fight against corruption has seen Alams in prison, Ibori in prison and more will follow suit,,, but guess what, it will not change anything...why would I be stupid enuf to embark on protest that will not achieve anything...

Soyinka is a great person, but remains human...he recently said there is no need for an SNC, a position I have been canvasing for a while now, because non of the other ldiots asking for SNC realize that people who really want the structure of the Nation to remain the same will form the bulk of reps at the SNC....On this particular subject I do not agree with him. He needs to go back to his original ideals where he preached right to self determination, reduced government interference in peoples life, a people run government that starts from grass roots upwards. He has never been known to fight for freebies and awuf.

There is a difference between an END/objective and a means to an end, what do you want to achieve by the protesthuh ok, lets assume we arrest and try some offenders, then jail them, then what next?

In sensible countries when lapses occur that allow monumental corruption, the key questions that always arise is, how can the system be upgraded so that such opportunities will not occur again...I am not saying that those found guilty should not be prosecuted! Check out the changes Obama introduced since the last economic melt down....

You claim to be a Deltan, go to goggle and search Ijaw protests, or protests in NigerDelta...we have been protesting for many years about a systems that creates lGAs and states for the sole purpose of sharing conquered loot..99% of Nigerians refer to crude as "our free oil", and you are telling me about GEJ apologist?

Halliburton scandal, pension probe, power projects, Nafcon issue, NSL so on and so on and so forth.....what is the difference between all these and the subsidy scandalhuh?
If you don't know or pretend not to know, the difference is that the key participants dared to remove the subsidy which the masses see as their own share of the loot, their own distribution of the oil wealthhuh All other corruption cases can go almost unnoticed but people are ready to die for this one...I realize that there are some lost cases like Aljharem, kobojunkie and others, but there are also some potential leaders out there who do not need to be mislead on issues like this. If you cannot see the fundamental issue at stake here, let me say it again..Deltans will gladly join street protest, fighting or what so ever to achieve a structural change in the system. We have been fighting our battles since, nor bi today matter....if you like to tribalise or trivialize it, feel free to do so but try enter the streets of Warri to fight for free PMS and anything your head see, come tell us...
PoliticsRe: No Part Of Itsekiriland Will Be Ceded To Any Group – Olu Of Warri by DaLover(m): 8:50am On May 03, 2012
So where is the Itsekiri land? From what I can see the warri town is shared between three tribes, warri south west has som many Ijaw towns including Tompolos gbamaturu clans....the entire stretch of the three warri lgas has major components of Ijaw and Itsekiri cris crossing each other, how do you carve out the itsekiri landhuh? You people should not kill me with laughter.

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